Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256284 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Theodosius

Hurricane, WV

#175839 May 10, 2013
List of Killings Ordered or Supported by Muhammad

http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killing...

Since: Apr 11

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#175840 May 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Bull Shit!
You must write:
"God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
In other words: "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship Him in true spirit".
You don't have God in the alleged Spirit.
That is a lie told by Muhammad's jinn devils to Muslims.

There is also a hadith reported to the effect that the jinn kidnapped some person during the time of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) and then returned him. Later that person reported,“A bird like a camel came to me and carried me on a small feather of it.”

According to Al-Alusi, the predecessors and Sunni people believe that what these hadiths refer to are true events, and explaining them in a non-literal way complicates matters.

It is the strict school of Al-Mu`tazilah and the like that tend to resort to complex explanations of this kind. Reviewing hadiths reported about jinn proves true their capability to harm people.

Muhammad boast that he read the Quran to jinn devils and they converted to be Muslims.

Hadith - Tirmidhi #861, Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah, Tirmidhi reported and said: This is a gharib hadith.

Allah's Messenger came out to his companions and recited Surah ar-Rahman (55) from the beginning to the end, but they remained silent. Thereupon he said: I recited this before the Jinn on the night of Jinn, and their response was better than that of yours. When I came to these words:`Then which of the favours of your Lord do you deny?' They said: Our Lord, there is nothing that we deny of Thy favour; to Thee is praise due.

Here Muhammad reveals his relation with jinn devils.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#175841 May 10, 2013
osirica wrote:
This thread sucks.
Islam is a religion based on bashing Christianity by claiming it's a corruption of the real Gospel.
I see that as a cop out for Islam to avoid accountability for any inconsistencies.
Tired of discussing the matter with cowards who can't give an honest answer.
We only show you the mirror. may be you have not looked in a mirror for a long time?

You are so busy in Islam bashing that you forgot about your own house turf!!

So stop whining and start answering questions about your Bible and Gospels.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#175842 May 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Your god Allah is not the God of the Bible.
So you are barking up the wrong tree.
Allah - the Moon God
The Archaeology of the Middle East
The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.
Jesus is the Son of God, and the Son of God taught That God is "SPIRIT".
Allah - the Moon God
Please stop off-topic answers and laern from me. You know well that before you were born I am. Right?

This is what I wrote:

Bull Shit!

You must write:

"God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

In other words: "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship Him in true spirit".

You don't have God in the alleged Spirit.

So how can you worship God in the Spirit? God does not live inside any Spirit.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#175843 May 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Muhammad boast that he read the Quran to jinn devils and they converted to be Muslims.
No, Copy and Paste Ignorant fool

He never boasted and never read out the Qur'aan to Jinns.

It was the other way round. The Jinns heard the Qur'aan (Surah 72) being recited and agreed with what they heard:

An extract and this is how it goes:
Say: It has been revealed to me that a company of Jinns listened (to the Qur'an). They said,'We have really heard a wonderful Recital!

'It gives guidance to the Right, and we have believed therein: we shall not join (in worship) any (gods) with our Lord.

'And Exalted is the Majesty of our Lord: He has taken neither a wife nor a son.

'There were some foolish ones among us, who used to utter extravagant lies against Allah;

'But we do think that no man or spirit should say aught that untrue against Allah.

True, there were persons among mankind who took shelter with persons among the Jinns, but they increased them in folly.
Looking at the verses, it is quite obvious that those were Christian Jinns and realized that God has no son as declared by foolish among them.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#175844 May 11, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Your god Allah is not the God of the Bible.
Allah is definitely not the God of the Christian Bible.

And keep in mind that the God of the Christian Bible is definitely not the God of the Jews and Abraham.

Allah, the LORD Almighty, IS the God of Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.

Moses, Jesus and Muhammad were extremely obedient slaves of Allah.

The Triune God of your Bible is an absurdity, a monstrosity and an abomination. How many times do I have to remind you?
truth

Perth, Australia

#175845 May 11, 2013
every spirit is not holy ..muslim religion call that delal=problem.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#175846 May 11, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Please stop off-topic answers and laern from me. You know well that before you were born I am. Right?
This is what I wrote:
Bull Shit!
You must write:
"God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
In other words: "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship Him in true spirit".
You don't have God in the alleged Spirit.
So how can you worship God in the Spirit? God does not live inside any Spirit.
Jesus is the Son of God.

"In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God, and the Logos was God. He was in the beginning with God; all things were made through Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men ... And the Logos became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld His glory, glory as of the only Son from The Father." (John 1:1-4,14 RSV)
Many recognize those familiar words of the apostle John, with perhaps one exception. We have used the original Greek word Logos (illustrated at right), in place of Word, that most English-language Bibles use in those translated Scriptures.

What and Who was The Logos?

If we carefully read what John wrote in his Gospel account, we see that the Logos was with God, and was God, but was not a God, because there is only one God:

"Fear not, nor be afraid; have I not told you from of old and declared it? And you are My witnesses! Is there a God besides Me? There is no Rock; I know not any" (Isaiah 44:8 RSV)

The Logos was the wisdom and power by which God created the heavens and the earth:

"He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation; for in Him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities - all things were created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. He is the head of the body, the church; He is the beginning, the first-born from the dead, that in everything he might be pre-eminent. For in Him all the fulness of God was pleased to dwell." (Colossians 1:15-19 RSV)

The Logos became flesh, but God did not become flesh:

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through Him." (John 3:16-17 RSV)
"And the Logos became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld His glory, glory as of the only Son from The Father." (John 1:14 RSV)

Jesus Christ obeyed God, and said of The Father:

"I do as the Father has commanded Me, so that the world may know that I love The Father." (John 14:31 RSV)

So, Who and What is The Logos? Consider these points of fact taken from the pages of your own Holy Bible -

•The Logos was God, but not a God.

•The Logos was the Power and Wisdom of God.

•All things were created for and by the Logos.

•The Logos became flesh as Jesus Christ.

•Jesus Christ is the Logos of God.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#175847 May 11, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Copy and Paste Ignorant fool
He never boasted and never read out the Qur'aan to Jinns.
It was the other way round. The Jinns heard the Qur'aan (Surah 72) being recited and agreed with what they heard:
An extract and this is how it goes:
<quoted text>
Looking at the verses, it is quite obvious that those were Christian Jinns and realized that God has no son as declared by foolish among them.
Muhammad never knew God.
Jesus is the Son of God.

"In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God, and the Logos was God. He was in the beginning with God; all things were made through Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men ... And the Logos became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld His glory, glory as of the only Son from The Father." (John 1:1-4,14 RSV)
Many recognize those familiar words of the apostle John, with perhaps one exception. We have used the original Greek word Logos (illustrated at right), in place of Word, that most English-language Bibles use in those translated Scriptures.

What and Who was The Logos?

If we carefully read what John wrote in his Gospel account, we see that the Logos was with God, and was God, but was not a God, because there is only one God:

"Fear not, nor be afraid; have I not told you from of old and declared it? And you are My witnesses! Is there a God besides Me? There is no Rock; I know not any" (Isaiah 44:8 RSV)

The Logos was the wisdom and power by which God created the heavens and the earth:

"He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation; for in Him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities - all things were created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. He is the head of the body, the church; He is the beginning, the first-born from the dead, that in everything he might be pre-eminent. For in Him all the fulness of God was pleased to dwell." (Colossians 1:15-19 RSV)

The Logos became flesh, but God did not become flesh:

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through Him." (John 3:16-17 RSV)
"And the Logos became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld His glory, glory as of the only Son from The Father." (John 1:14 RSV)

Jesus Christ obeyed God, and said of The Father:

"I do as the Father has commanded Me, so that the world may know that I love The Father." (John 14:31 RSV)

So, Who and What is The Logos? Consider these points of fact taken from the pages of your own Holy Bible -

•The Logos was God, but not a God.

•The Logos was the Power and Wisdom of God.

•All things were created for and by the Logos.

•The Logos became flesh as Jesus Christ.

•Jesus Christ is the Logos of God.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#175848 May 11, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus is the Son of God.
"In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God, and the Logos was God. He was in the beginning with God; all things were made through Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men ... And the Logos became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld His glory, glory as of the only Son from The Father." (John 1:1-4,14 RSV)
Many recognize those familiar words of the apostle John, with perhaps one exception. We have used the original Greek word Logos (illustrated at right), in place of Word, that most English-language Bibles use in those translated Scriptures.
What and Who was The Logos?
If we carefully read what John wrote in his Gospel account, we see that the Logos was with God, and was God, but was not a God, because there is only one God:
"Fear not, nor be afraid; have I not told you from of old and declared it? And you are My witnesses! Is there a God besides Me? There is no Rock; I know not any" (Isaiah 44:8 RSV)
The Logos was the wisdom and power by which God created the heavens and the earth:
"He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation; for in Him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities - all things were created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. He is the head of the body, the church; He is the beginning, the first-born from the dead, that in everything he might be pre-eminent. For in Him all the fulness of God was pleased to dwell." (Colossians 1:15-19 RSV)
The Logos became flesh, but God did not become flesh:
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through Him." (John 3:16-17 RSV)
"And the Logos became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld His glory, glory as of the only Son from The Father." (John 1:14 RSV)
Jesus Christ obeyed God, and said of The Father:
"I do as the Father has commanded Me, so that the world may know that I love The Father." (John 14:31 RSV)
So, Who and What is The Logos? Consider these points of fact taken from the pages of your own Holy Bible -
•The Logos was God, but not a God.
•The Logos was the Power and Wisdom of God.
•All things were created for and by the Logos.
•The Logos became flesh as Jesus Christ.
•Jesus Christ is the Logos of God.
That is all Bull Shit.

Jesus was not the son of God or God.

This so-called Logos is also bull shit. The word of God or logos of God means the words that God sent to Mary through Gabriel.

That Jesus was the Word that became God is Horse Shit, Shamma. John's Bull Shit receives no support from Jesus or his disciples, the other three gospels and Paul.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#175849 May 11, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
That is all Bull Shit.
Jesus was not the son of God or God.
This so-called Logos is also bull shit. The word of God or logos of God means the words that God sent to Mary through Gabriel.
That Jesus was the Word that became God is Horse Shit, Shamma. John's Bull Shit receives no support from Jesus or his disciples, the other three gospels and Paul.
You don't know any thing but to say bull-shit.
If God would have remained invisible there would be no reason for God to communicate with man or even create man and the world.

HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#175850 May 11, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
<quoted text>
Is it me or you the stupid? Since when I put in question my online presence here?
Your affermation was totally another, don't try to change the issue.
Now I understand why HughBe is so obsessed in copying and pasting what you wrote and calling you liar.
Stefano Co---Now I understand why HughBe is so obsessed in copying and pasting what you wrote and calling you liar.

HughBe--- I would have chosen hellbent or determined instead of obsessed.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#175851 May 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently you need to study both the US Constitution and Basic Law of Israel. I can not help you any further on that matter.
"In its Basic Laws Israel defines itself as a Jewish and Democratic State; it is the world's only Jewish-majority state.[7].." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
No need to reply. You are a waste of bandwith.
Frijoles---Apparently you need to study both the US Constitution and Basic Law of Israel

HughBe--- Since you have studied the constitution of the country that you legally belong, please answer the following questions.

1. what is the meaning of, "The New England colonies, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Maryland were CONCEIVED and ESTABLISHED "AS PLANTATIONS OF RELIGION."

2.What is the meaning of, "the great MAJORITY left Europe TO WORSHIP God in the way they believed to be correct."

3.What is the meaning of, "They enthusiastically supported the efforts of their leaders to create "A CITY ON A HILL" or a "HOLY experiment," whose success would prove that God's plan for his CHURCHES could be successfully realized in the American wilderness.

4.What is the meaning of, "Even colonies like Virginia, which were planned as commercial ventures, were led by entrepreneurs who considered themselves "militant PROTESTANTS" and who worked diligently to PROMOTE the prosperity of the CHURCH.

Frijoles---"In its Basic Laws Israel defines itself as a Jewish and Democratic State; it is the world's only Jewish-majority state.

HughBe---1. How does America defines itself?

2. I see NOTHING in the "Basic Laws" of Israel that speaks to the question of RELIGION. What is there is the type of POLITICAL system i.e. DEMOCRACY and the RACE of the majority Jewish.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#175852 May 11, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: makes most in the military proud to be on, 24 hour broken clock time. cause all they have to be, is right once in a blue moon.
i knew a guy, who was right once. but it was an accident, he really didn't mean to.
Good one.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#175853 May 11, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Stefano Co---Now I understand why HughBe is so obsessed in copying and pasting what you wrote and calling you liar.
HughBe--- I would have chosen hellbent or determined instead of obsessed.
If I may give you a suggestion, it's useless to discuss with people like Frijoles. He makes a point, one tries to suggest many times how wrong and baseless his point is, but he, instead of correcting himself, blame you. Very logic, isn't it? After the genius realizes to be wrong, he changed what has previously said, like if his counterpart doesn't see his game. And even when you show him his incoherence aka lie, he keeps deny and acting like a crazy woman who heart has just be broken.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#175854 May 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Slow down, mon..dont have a cow
and no need to reply and disect every sentence - that just makes you tedious
"sharing the gospel" --i.e. proselytizing. I have a problem with that. Bhuddist, Jainists, and Jews tend not to do this. Christians do. DO the math.
Frijoles---Slow down, mon..dont have a cow

HughBe--- Interesting comment. I was just about to say to you, slow down lady don't have a jackass, moment.

Frijoles---"SHARING the gospel" --i.e. proselytizing. I have a problem with that. Bhuddist, Jainists, and Jews tend not to do this. Christians do. DO the math.

HughBe--- I see nothing wrong with SHARING. Your Bhuddist, Jainists and Judahites argument is nothing more that a smokescreen.

Again for the SIMPLE, each RELIGIOUS group should have their own service and ALL who don't want to be a part of any RELIGIOUS service should be allowed to EXCUSE themselves.

End of story. Get it?

Back to earlier points.

Frijoles---Also, I DONT THINK Weinstein has a BEEF with RELIGION per se, in the military.

HughBe--- And I am saying that based on what I have read he HATES Christianity and is anti-Christians.

PROOF are in the words which follow: "ANYONE (including chaplains!) sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military is guilty of TREASON"

Those are very STRONG FEELINGS being expressed. Are they FAIR words?

Let us suppose that he has a genuine concern and is not just a HATER of Christianity. Is he LACKING in INTELLIGENCE so much that he could not have thought of a simple solution that I came up with in less than a thousandth of a second?

Solution, those in the armed forces who do not want religion should NOT be forced into participating in RELIGIOUS services.

Those who want religious services should meet with their OWN kind.

I shall now say, that the US Government should consider not paying the salaries of ANY Chaplain including Judahites and Christians. However, the Government should NOT allow the unclean motives of some to DEPRIVE the MAJORITY of their constitutional RIGHTS.

Let the work of chaplains be VOLUNTARY and done by a member of each group.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#175855 May 11, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
If I may give you a suggestion, it's useless to discuss with people like Frijoles. He makes a point, one tries to suggest many times how wrong and baseless his point is, but he, instead of correcting himself, blame you. Very logic, isn't it? After the genius realizes to be wrong, he changed what has previously said, like if his counterpart doesn't see his game. And even when you show him his incoherence aka lie, he keeps deny and acting like a crazy woman who heart has just be broken.
You are perfectly correct in your assessment of Frijoles.

Please feel free to make any suggestions that you want.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#175856 May 11, 2013
later, I must be off to church.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#175857 May 11, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Allah is definitely not the God of the Christian Bible.
And keep in mind that the God of the Christian Bible is definitely not the God of the Jews and Abraham.
Allah, the LORD Almighty, IS the God of Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.
Moses, Jesus and Muhammad were extremely obedient slaves of Allah.
The Triune God of your Bible is an absurdity, a monstrosity and an abomination. How many times do I have to remind you?
rabbee: with only about seven billion liars, on this planet. the competetion for the only true liar contest, is still going hot and heavy. but none of your other g-ds, are the G-D of the return of adam and his mate again here in TheTorah.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#175858 May 11, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You don't know any thing but to say bull-shit.

If God would have remained invisible there would be no reason for God to communicate with man or even create man and the world.
Another Bull Shit.

How can you expect me not to call a Bull Shit, Bull Shit, when you keep on piling more?

God always communicated with humans through the messengers, chosen to talk with us. No one has seen God.

God is still invisible and will always remain unseen till the Last Day.

If God wants to be visible and communicate direct, God has no other way but to come to earth or land on earth direct and present Himself.

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