Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 253878 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#175141 May 6, 2013
osirica wrote:
Dude...
whatever...
seriously...
Your insults really have made no impact.
<quoted text>
rabbee: give it some time, it will eventualy bother you more and more. and in fact according to your reaction, it appears to have disturbed you some. trying to take it, like the man you arn't is extreemly stressful.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#175142 May 6, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>The proof is that Muslims are murders pretending that their prophet is the one Moses prophesied in the Holy Bible.
Muslims use Moses for their own gain to murder people MUQ.
If Moses didn't talk to God then why do Muslims claim that Muhammad is that prophet prophesied by Moses?
You are playing a game with your self MUQ and you got caught with your own contradiction.
You first settle the issue "Where are your proofs that God spoke to Abraham and Moses".

I do not want to start another discussion with you, unless we finish the first one.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#175143 May 6, 2013
Excerpts from the Gospel of Barnabas, Part-107 (Conclusion)

Now I present summary or conclusion of This Gospel of Barnabas, only listing salient features:

A. Barnabas was one of the Chosen 12 Disciples of Jesus and present with Jesus during most of his mission. Jesus commanded him to write down his teachings for people. In this way, this is the only Gospel which has a direct link to Jesus’ command.

B. Jesus, even though he was born of a virgin woman, and showed all those miracles, never for an instant called himself to be God or Son of God. He always presented himself as Slave and Servant of God.

C. The word God or Son of God was first used by pagan Romans referring to Jesus, when they say his miracles.

D. Jesus was very much alarmed and used every means at his disposal to negate this claim. In fact Jesus feared that God will question him on account of this thing people said of him.

E. In his preaching and sermons, Jesus never even once used the term Son of God for himself nor allowed any to use it in front of him. When Peter used this word in front of Jesus, he got very angry and would have removed Peter from his list of disciples.

F. Jesus clarified that he was not “That Messiah” whom Jews were looking for, from whom all nations shall receive blessings. Jesus had come only as a messenger to Jews and bring testimony for The Messiah.

G. Jesus told clearly that “The Messiah” or “The Last and Final Prophet” shall come amongst the children of Ishmael and not from the Children of Israel. He argued with Jews and proved his case by quoting from Jewish scriptures.

H. Jews became angry with jesus due to this and because he was exposing their hypocritical behaviour. Jews tried many times to lay hand on Jesus, but God protected Jesus from their hands every time.

J. Jesus went on preaching his “good news” i.e. nearness of Last and Final prophet to lands of Jews. He only preached amongst Jews and sent his Disciples and followers to Jewish cities and villages only. He never even once sent them to any non Jewish city or village.

K. Jews were always plotting to kill Jesus; they finally succeeded in Judas Iscariot, one of 12 disciples of Jesus to betray him. One night, Jews came with Roman Soldiers to arrest Jesus. Jesus prayed to God and God took Jesus up to heavens and changed the appearance of Judas, to look like Jesus.

L. It was Judas who was arrested and crucified and suffered all that which is written. The disciples of jesus got so confused, that even though jesus had told them what will happen, they thought that it was Jesus who was crucified on the cross.

M. Then when jesus (judas) was buried, some people took his body in the dead of night and said that “jesus is raised from the dead and resurrected”. This increased confusion.

N. Jesus prayed to God that he may be sent back to earth one more time, God accepted his plea and Jesus came back to earth and met his chosen disciples and his mother. He asked them to continue his mission and spread it to all parts of Jewish world.

O. After that Jesus was again taken up into heavens and will return once again near the end of time.

The Gospel ends here, but there were some events afterwards which are worth knowing;

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#175144 May 6, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
Shamma already think that the Jews in this thread are Muslims or quite close to it.
It's not a secret that you are trying, quite openly, to group Jews and Muslims in one side, and make your internet Jihad against Christians.
After being exposed your ignorance by picking what Islamic doctrine and Quran said, and put them at your attention, you tried to cover up everything by labeling your post as sarcastic and probe question? WTF LOL
What a prick you are.
You can only accuse me of building bridges here.

As for Shamma and the likes, I write against them and the Church.

Boy! You still can't understand me.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#175145 May 6, 2013
Alpha Centauri wrote:
<quoted text>Dick,
The only way that your "prophet" succeeded was by murdering his critics. It's your own bloody history. I DIDN'T INVENT IT. get used to it, DICK.
That is not true, Buford. Our dear Prophet killed no one. He did not even carry a sword.

Your 'god's' case was different. He was not a leader and did not face fierce pagan tribes.

If your 'god' or your 'son of god' had been sent to pagan Arabs, he would have lost his head on the first day.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#175146 May 6, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
<quoted text>
geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

BMZ actually extended friendship and respect to Eric, a fellow believer in God, by calling him a Muslim.
To us it is one of the highest forms of respect we can give a fellow human being.
When will you stop being petty and paranoid.
Thank you, Bro.

Actually Stefano's problem is that he butts in, where he is not supposed to.

How can I call the Jews 'Kafirs', when they believe in one God?
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#175147 May 7, 2013
osirica wrote:
Thats right
And when you accuse something of being forged you should have proof. going on about how God came to a vision to correct it is in itself a forgery
Well, that's the whole thing. Seems like God learns from his mistakes and finally got it right with the Quran where he finally learned how to make a non corruptible scripture. Muhammad never thought things out very much when he invented his claims.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#175148 May 7, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
And that's what the Messiah is for. That is why Jesus was not the Messiah.

Isaiah 6:9 He said, "Go and tell this people: "'Be ever hearing, but never understanding; be ever seeing, but never perceiving.'
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Isaiah 6:10 Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed."
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Jeremiah 5:21 Hear this, you foolish and senseless people, who have eyes but do not see, who have ears but do not hear:
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Ezekiel 12:2 "Son of man, you are living among a rebellious people. They have eyes to see but do not see and ears to hear but do not hear, for they are a rebellious people.
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Matthew 13:14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: "'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#175149 May 7, 2013
Seeker wrote:
That's assuming that God did. All I know is that God would not misunderstand the true nature of the sky and cosmos like the Quran did.

You can start with 69:16 and tell us all how the sky is supposed to become weak and crack open or tear open unless it was thought of as some sort of dome, roof or canopy, which just so happens to be EXACTLY what 7th century Bedouin Arabs thought it was.

Muhammad wrote that verse and many others that make mistakes about the true nature of the cosmos and the earth. Go ahead and ignore it.
Ans.

Please tell us the "exact nature" of what is sky and Cosmos. May be you can do better than God.

Quran is for all ages, what knowledge you have would become "second grade and third grade" after a couple of centuries.

And Quran has not come us to teach Science, Astronomy, Physics and Medicine to us. This is not its central topic,

Its topic is guidance for humanity and what to do to pass the test of times.

It comments on nature and natural phenomenon as a "Proof" for the existence of God and His infinite Wisdom, Power, mercy and Knowledge.

But since it if from Creator Himself, there is no lies or falsehood in any thing there.

The words used in Quran have many shades of meaning and with our increased knowledge, we have to change the sense in which they would be used.

Quran shall always keep pace with time, irrespective of our advancement in the knowledge.

As to your comment on 69:16 and other similar verses, they refer to the end of time. If you would be living then you will "see" how sky gets asunder and "how" angels of God come down.

How can I say about "impossibility" of what will happen in future, when we know "so little" about our Universe!!

Do not put your knowledge and information against the Creator of this Universe!!

The loss is yours and not His.!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#175150 May 7, 2013
Osirica wrote:
That's right

01. And when you accuse something of being forged you should have proof. going on about how God came to a vision to correct it is in itself a forgery.

In all revelations there are witnesses. His two wives did not witness anything other than Muhammad going into convulsions and babbling.

They did not see an angel.

02. points 2 and 3... those apply to you more than they do to me. Because firstly, all the manuscripts of Judaism point to ONE GOD, and are almost perfectly identical.

03. There are no such thing as Jewish Bibles that teach "more than one God". So what FORGERY are you referring to? What? Not enough future glorification of Muhammad?

04. In regards to the CHRISTIAN bible, their writings rely on the Jewish ones first of all, and there is no forgery since the Gospels are eyewitness accounts of someone ELSE. I don't recall PAUL writing anything about himself being another God, or about Jesus worshipping Paul. Paul criticized himself in his own writings, and pointed out his own faults.

Forgers are, esp. back then, not that clever... because after all their motive would not be to mindlessly cause confusion, but to either make money, get power, or have more women.
Ans.

01. The Manuscripts themselves are the proofs!! If we find discrepancies and errors and mistakes in manuscripts, whom we are going to accuse for these shortcomings?

I did not see any "eyewitness" testimony being mentioned is any OT or NT books , did you?

02. So according to you if some manuscript says "there are More than On God, then it is a forgery, otherwise every other things go"? What type of logic is it?

And your saying that these manuscripts are "Almost Perfectly identical" is a masterpiece of deception!!

I say there are "Not two ancient manuscripts who are exact copy of each other"!!

03. Again you are making a wrong claim, that if any book teaches more than one God, only then it is a forgery.

Do you know what is the definition of forgery?

04. In which Gospel there is a statement that this is "eye witness account"? You are making claims which the writers did not make themselves.

How come Luke and Mark are eyewitness of what jesus did or said?

You have a very wrong concept of forgery and what is called forgery.

Let me quote to you a Quranic verse on what is a forgery:

'Then Woe to be those who write books from their own hands and say "this is from God"…."

This is a forgery and corrupting the text, removing or adding some words or phrases in original manuscript is also a forgery.

To recite a verse and willfully play with "words during recitation" to convey different meaning is also a forgery.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#175151 May 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
That is not true, Buford. Our dear Prophet killed no one. He did not even carry a sword.
Your 'god's' case was different. He was not a leader and did not face fierce pagan tribes.
If your 'god' or your 'son of god' had been sent to pagan Arabs, he would have lost his head on the first day.
You state:
That is not true, Buford. Our dear Prophet killed no one. He did not even carry a sword.
If true, why do Muhammad's followers in certain countries promote stonings, beheadings, amputations, whippings, etc. when this would be against the prophet's teaching?
United States: A Muslim man slaughtered two Coptic Christians in New Jersey. Although authorities believe that "the defendant was ruthless and calculating in the manner in which he carried out the killings and attempted to prevent identification of the victims by cutting off their heads and hands before burying their bodies," it is relevant to note that Koran 8:12 records Allah saying, "I will cast terror into the hearts of infidels, so strike [them] upon the necks [behead them] and strike from them every fingertip." Moreover, as one report puts it, "Privately some wonder if it had something to do with the victims'[Christian] religion."
Why do Muslims go crazy like that if Muhammad did not do such killings himself?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#175152 May 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. The Manuscripts themselves are the proofs!! If we find discrepancies and errors and mistakes in manuscripts, whom we are going to accuse for these shortcomings?
I did not see any "eyewitness" testimony being mentioned is any OT or NT books , did you?
02. So according to you if some manuscript says "there are More than On God, then it is a forgery, otherwise every other things go"? What type of logic is it?
And your saying that these manuscripts are "Almost Perfectly identical" is a masterpiece of deception!!
I say there are "Not two ancient manuscripts who are exact copy of each other"!!
03. Again you are making a wrong claim, that if any book teaches more than one God, only then it is a forgery.
Do you know what is the definition of forgery?
04. In which Gospel there is a statement that this is "eye witness account"? You are making claims which the writers did not make themselves.
How come Luke and Mark are eyewitness of what jesus did or said?
You have a very wrong concept of forgery and what is called forgery.
Let me quote to you a Quranic verse on what is a forgery:
'Then Woe to be those who write books from their own hands and say "this is from God"…."
This is a forgery and corrupting the text, removing or adding some words or phrases in original manuscript is also a forgery.
To recite a verse and willfully play with "words during recitation" to convey different meaning is also a forgery.
Why do Muhammad's followers in certain countries promote stonings, beheadings, amputations, whippings, etc. when this would be against the prophet's teaching?

United States: A Muslim man slaughtered two Coptic Christians in New Jersey. Although authorities believe that "the defendant was ruthless and calculating in the manner in which he carried out the killings and attempted to prevent identification of the victims by cutting off their heads and hands before burying their bodies," it is relevant to note that Koran 8:12 records Allah saying, "I will cast terror into the hearts of infidels, so strike [them] upon the necks [behead them] and strike from them every fingertip." Moreover, as one report puts it, "Privately some wonder if it had something to do with the victims'[Christian] religion."

"it is relevant to note that Koran 8:12 records Allah saying, "I will cast terror into the hearts of infidels, so strike [them] upon the necks [behead them] and strike from them every fingertip."

Why did Muhammad accept that ungodly revelation from Gabriel MUQ?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#175153 May 7, 2013
The Immoral Reputation of Ahnaf and its Impact on Mohammed

Their immoral behavior is seen in their poems, such as the poem composed by Waraqa Bin Naufal, one of the four founders of the group. He boasted of his own experience raping a girl in her home and enjoying sex with her.

In his poem he encourages others to enjoy experiences like this.[xxxvi][36] Waraqa's immoral ideas left a special impact on Mohammed, who learned under him.

When Waraqa died, the biographers of Mohammed said the “inspiration cooled down or languished.”[xxxvii][37] Because of this, Mohammed wanted to throw himself many times from a mountain.

The narrators are in disagreement about the duration of such period in which he tried to kill himself; some claimed it was forty days, others say it was three years.[xxxviii][38]

It took time before Mohammed found other resources for his verses.

Many Kuhhan of the Jinn religion of Arabia were part of the Ahnaf group. The Ahnaf used to have rhymed prose like the Kuhhan of the Jinn-devils of Arabia.[xxxix][39] They used to have relationships with the Jinn-devils, and they claimed that those devils were useful helpers and agents.

Among the leaders of Ahnaf, who was in closest communication with the Jinn-devils, was Ummia bin Abi al-Salt, the maternal cousin of Mohammed.

The devil used to teach him religious things, such as: " Bismika allahumma," which means: "in your name Allah are they." [xl][40]

It is clear the Devils in Arabia were training the group of Ahnaf to face and challenge Christianity, which spread in Arabia during the sixth century. Later, Mohammed adopted the same term.

The Ahnaf replaced the angels with the Jinn as useful agents, claiming that Solomon and other prophets of the Bible had Jinn–devils in their service.

They claimed this to justify their occult relationships with the devils, like Ummia, who used to have relationships with the Jinn-devils.

[xli][41] Mohammed followed the same path, organized occultic rituals with the Jinn, boasting of such relationships, under the excuse that the Jinn-devils had become Muslims. In the Qur’an, Mohammed later copied the teachings of the Ahnaf that even Solomon had Jinn-devils in his service.

The study of the family in which Mohammed was born and raised up, shows that it was a family dedicated to occultism and relationships to the Jinn-devils. Many family members were involved in the leadership of the Jinn religion of Arabia as Kuhhans, or mediums of the Jinn- devils.

We do not affirm this through mere guessing or conjecture, but by depending on the Islamic sources, upon which Muslims depend, in establishing the true history of Mohammed; such as Ibn Hisham and other important historical scholars who narrated the life of Mohammed.

The involvement of Mohammed’s family in Arabian occultism explains Mohammed’s close relationship with the Jinn-devils; despite the fact that he tried to justify such occultic relationships with the excuse that the Jinn-devils had became Muslims.

Muslims are in need of the true divine guide, that is the Bible, in order to discern the truth and not remain in this eternal trap with which the Arabian Jinn religion so forcefully imprisons the souls of so many until this day. The Bible absolutely prohibits any relationships with Jinn-devils.

In the Old Testament, the Bible orders that persons who are in contact with Jinn –devils, or persons who practice and cast spells, to be stoned to death.

How, then, can a Holy God, who abhors occult practices like what the family of Mohammed and Mohammed himself practiced chose a prophet from among them?

JOEL

Mumbai, India

#175154 May 7, 2013
INSIGHTS ON THE PHYSICO-VITAL CONSCIOUSNESS-FORCE:

1) The life-force is an aspect of the vital consciousness-force.

2) When the life-force with its pentuple currents infuses the physical plane, it is known as the physico-vital.

3) The physico-vital force animates the physical energies and it also enlivens matter and works the organ systems. It's not surprising to know that there exist 5 fundamental physical forces - electrical, magnetic, gravitation, strong nuclear force and weak nuclear force. So, it's evident that the 5 life-force currents animate the 5 fundamental physical forces in nature.

4) When the physico-vital vibrations get into a state of disorder or when they begin vibrating in an irregular fashion, the result is diseases and when the physico-vital force permanently quits the body the condition is known as death.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#175155 May 7, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: well it is not my falt, if you cannot accept me as an actual eye wittness - to confirm IT is all true.
i was standing there, when G-D came to visit with me. and was too nieve, to know it. it was not until just before the second visit, that i realized WHO THEY Were.
when i heard G-D, coming to see me. and your damn right, i got scared. cause this in not like, being called to the principals office. not to mention the complications this caused, the son from a family with an athiest father.
how can you expect me, to live a normal life as this world knows. when G-D commanded all this weird stuff, to happen all around me. your damn right i am not normal, according to this worlds antiG-D standards.
it is not my falt, that G-D would not leave me alone. this is not my falt, G-D made me do it. i wanted to be more like, einstein or tesla, with my well over 200 iq. and you see how well, that worked out. when G-D tells you, your going to do somthing THEIR Way, your going to do it. and i don't care, who you think you are or are not.
Anyone can say to have been this or that or to have been eyewitness of what god did. But none has brought any proof. You said it was written in the Torah, but when you brought the piece the verse didn't prove what you said, as I showed you in the other post.

Have you an IQ of over 200? Was it measured to you when you were child?

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#175156 May 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
You can only accuse me of building bridges here.
As for Shamma and the likes, I write against them and the Church.
Boy! You still can't understand me.
I can accuse you to build bridges of hypocrisy with the Jews.

It's useless discuss with Shamma about religion as it's useless discuss with you about religion. It's funny and ridiculous that you and Shamma discuss about religion. Both of you are stubborn, use low logic and will never change your mind about your god, holy book and religion.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#175157 May 7, 2013
HOW DOES THE PHYSICO-VITAL FORCE VIVIFY THE BODY?

1) The physico-vital force has a rapid in and out motion which can be compared to a fast-moving sewing needle that moves in and out of the fabric in quick succession as it stitches.

2) The physico-vital force, with its pentuple currents, runs in and out of cells and tissues at a tremendous speed and in doing so it creates a fast-moving peristaltic wave in the medium it infuses and this is what causes the infused medium to get vivified and with this animation in place the indwelling mental consciousness gets in to a state of greater awareness and this accounts for the domination of the mental being (human being) over all other sentient species.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#175158 May 7, 2013
JOEL wrote:
INSIGHTS ON THE PHYSICO-VITAL CONSCIOUSNESS-FORCE:
1) The life-force is an aspect of the vital consciousness-force.
2) When the life-force with its pentuple currents infuses the physical plane, it is known as the physico-vital.
3) The physico-vital force animates the physical energies and it also enlivens matter and works the organ systems. It's not surprising to know that there exist 5 fundamental physical forces - electrical, magnetic, gravitation, strong nuclear force and weak nuclear force. So, it's evident that the 5 life-force currents animate the 5 fundamental physical forces in nature.
4) When the physico-vital vibrations get into a state of disorder or when they begin vibrating in an irregular fashion, the result is diseases and when the physico-vital force permanently quits the body the condition is known as death.
Is this what you are talking about Joe?

United States: A Muslim man slaughtered two Coptic Christians in New Jersey. Although authorities believe that "the defendant was ruthless and calculating in the manner in which he carried out the killings and attempted to prevent identification of the victims by cutting off their heads and hands before burying their bodies," it is relevant to note that Koran 8:12 records Allah saying, "I will cast terror into the hearts of infidels, so strike [them] upon the necks [behead them] and strike from them every fingertip." Moreover, as one report puts it, "Privately some wonder if it had something to do with the victims'[Christian] religion."

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#175159 May 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you, Bro.
Actually Stefano's problem is that he butts in, where he is not supposed to.
How can I call the Jews 'Kafirs', when they believe in one God?
Did I say you call Jews Kafirs? You must be desperate to invent things out of nothing to search the approval of another person.

BTW Quran 9:29 made it clear, Muslims fought also against Jews if they don't adopt the religion of truth and don't pay a tax willingly.

Do me a favour don't lick Jewish asses here when Allah, Muhammad, Quran and Islam have already stated their position on that matter.
truth

Maida Vale, Australia

#175160 May 7, 2013
you not have me at all..i am not care what yew say..because everyone who say they are jew..they are not yew..no
as well every jew not believe in Jesus Christ no..
they reject him..

What i care that ordinary Jewish people have rights for existence?

please tell me about box in mecca..be bless day when muslim people relize what is there..very usfull geometric destruction..did i go destroy muslim..no no no

but not to wish..
weapons like never before exist..people going pay heavy price because of that..i don't spend any money produce any weapons..no..don't blame me!!!

'your law is not my law'..
Real Creator left law in space as well time.
time=o'clock
60 second
60 minutes
24 hour
144
144 000 Jesus army very faithful..
see

koris me koris
al' znam da me volis
i kad me notorious koris..
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