Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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WHAT AILS INDIA?
1) Religion
2) Population
3) Corruption
Corruption.
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bmz wrote:
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Corruption.
No.

All three problems - over emphasis on religion, high population growth and excessive corruption have kept India backward. They form a triune and are as such inter-related.

I am disgusted with India and Indians - such degradation and horribly low standards in everything.

I may, in the near future, think of shifting base to Europe.
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Yes, I'm serious about leaving India and settling down in Europe.
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Shamma wrote:
We have the known covenants that God made with Abraham, and Moses.
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/archeolo ...
Archeology confirms the Bible teaching.
So the testimony of Abraham and Moses in the Bible confirm God talked to Abraham and Moses.
Ans.

So the "proof" has to come thru a "Link"? Will it?

Why are you shy to put those proofs are on pages so we all can see it.

Which Archeology "confirms" the truth of Bible? I think according to "real archeology". Moses and Jesus are "Mythical figures"!!

You are just clutching at straws, and so far you have not provided a "single proof" that God Spoke to Abraham or Moses.

You are using the "same source" (i.e. Bible) for making the claim and the same source as its proof.

This is what is called a "circular argument".
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Osirica wrote:
This was the language Moses wrote in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo-Hebrew_alp ...

This is ALSO the first alphabet from which all of our alphabets, yours, Arabic, Greek, Aramaic, modern Hebrew... it's the ancestor alphabet.

If you're going to insist we read the word of God in the original form then you read THAT.

If you want to go there. Because if you truly believe in God, then you TRULY understand that it's no coincidence that the word was written in the ancestor script, OUR ancestral script.

Dont' come in here with Arabic this and Arabic that, when we all know Arabic is one of many descendents of the same Paleo-HEEEEBREWWWWWWW alphabet. Alep, Bata, Gimel, Dalet... Gee whiz YA THINK???
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I fail to understand what is purpose of your writing?

The same way as Humanity spread from a Single Pair (Adam and Eve).so ALL languages in the world started from the language which Adam and Eve Spoke.

Now which language was that? Moses came many thousands of years after Adam?

So the MOTHER of all languages was thousands of years before Moses and from that language Hebrew also got developed.

And what is the point of some language being older than the other? It does not give it any superiority per see.

A lie or falsehood spoken in Hebrew is as wrong as spoken and written in English or any modern language.

And a statement of truth is as sacred irrespective of written in Oldest language or Modern language.

Are you trying to become a "Linguistic Racist"?
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So the "proof" has to come thru a "Link"? Will it?
Why are you shy to put those proofs are on pages so we all can see it.
Which Archeology "confirms" the truth of Bible? I think according to "real archeology". Moses and Jesus are "Mythical figures"!!
You are just clutching at straws, and so far you have not provided a "single proof" that God Spoke to Abraham or Moses.
You are using the "same source" (i.e. Bible) for making the claim and the same source as its proof.
This is what is called a "circular argument".
Speaking of a "circular argument,"

When you're not entertaining us with the fiction that is the "Gospel of Barnabas," you are using the "same source" (i.e. Qur'an) for making the claim and the same source as its proof, specifically, that Mohammad was a true prophet of Allah and not just a bloody con artist.

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MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
So the "proof" has to come thru a "Link"? Will it?
Why are you shy to put those proofs are on pages so we all can see it.
Which Archeology "confirms" the truth of Bible? I think according to "real archeology". Moses and Jesus are "Mythical figures"!!
You are just clutching at straws, and so far you have not provided a "single proof" that God Spoke to Abraham or Moses.
You are using the "same source" (i.e. Bible) for making the claim and the same source as its proof.
This is what is called a "circular argument".
http://www.faithfacts.org/sear ch-for-truth/maps/archaeologic al-and-external-evidence
A Circular Argument

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Q. How do you know that Mohammad is a true prophet?

A. It says so in the Qur'an.

Q. How do you know that the Qur'an is true.

A. Mohammad said it is.

Q. Where did Mohammad say the Qur'an is true?

A. In the Qur'an.

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MUQ wrote:
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So the "proof" has to come thru a "Link"? Will it?
Why are you shy to put those proofs are on pages so we all can see it.
Which Archeology "confirms" the truth of Bible? I think according to "real archeology". Moses and Jesus are "Mythical figures"!!
You are just clutching at straws, and so far you have not provided a "single proof" that God Spoke to Abraham or Moses.
You are using the "same source" (i.e. Bible) for making the claim and the same source as its proof.
This is what is called a "circular argument".
http://agards-bible-timeline.c om/q9_historical_proof_bible.h tml

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HughBe wrote:
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Eric---How can an organization that represents a fraction of the Jews be the largest organization in the world?
HughBe--- Lesson 1, for today, Sabbath evening. Taken individually ALL of the RELIGIOUS organizations of Judaism are FRACTIONS.
Lesson 2--- Collectively ALL of the sects of Judaism represent a FRACTION of the Jewish people. I thought that this much was self-evident. Simplifying NO sect of Judaism represents ALL of the Jewish people and must therefore be a FRACTION. In addition, almost 50% of the house of Israel are SECULAR.
Lesson 3--- The language is a challenge for you and so I shall not allow you to torture yourself. Let me explain what the writer means. First, it is my hope that you are aware that I am not the writer of the article.
Second, there is a difference between the largest MEMBERSHIP and the LARGEST organization which is what Chabad is. It is clear to me that the writer is looking at SIZE in terms of INSTITUTIONS etc.
Note, there are 3,600 Chabad Institutions worldwide. Get it?
Moreover, did you see that at approximately ONE MILLION persons attend Chabad services at least once a year?
In other words many many people are affiliated to the Chabab movement.
Let's see Hugh, 1 million supposedly attend at least one Luvibitcher service, 1.5 are members of URJ. Which one has more PEOPLE?

What is an institution? They put a family in a remote location and that's an institution to them.

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Walk-in on the fight-in side of me.
Merl Haggard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Q. How do you know that Mohammad is a true prophet?
A. It says so in the Qur'an.
Q. How do you know that the Qur'an is true.
A. Mohammad said it is.
Q. Where did Mohammad say the Qur'an is true?
A. In the Qur'an.
hello fool...

Q. How do you know that BJ is your mangod?
A. BJ NEVER claimed that in the NT but Church said so.
Q. How do you know that NT is true.
A. Church said so.
Q. Where did Church say the NT is true?
A. In the Church!

Makes sense?
The Church says NT is true but NT does not contain a single direct claim from BJ or even Jesus that he was God!

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Nope.

John 19:7 stands as the reason.

19:12 - nope
Luke 23:2 - PILATE LET HIM GO.
Luke 23:5 - His teaching OF WHAT?
uhuh wrote:
read again your "scripture" from the impostor John,
the Jews handed over Jesus to Pilate: "We have a law and by our law he ought to die because he made himself a son of God" (John 19:7)
no such law exists, every Jew can say he is a son of God
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so what was that particular crime?
was it because he said he is a son of God?
or because he made himself out to be a king?(John 19:12)
or because he forbade the people to give tribute to Caesar?(Luke 23:2)
or because he stirred up the people with his teaching?(Luke 23:5)

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So you are supporting Athiesm, instead of rejecting Islam's unwarranted claim against... not just Christianity... but Judaism too.
Alex123 WM wrote:
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hello fool...
Q. How do you know that BJ is your mangod?
A. BJ NEVER claimed that in the NT but Church said so.
Q. How do you know that NT is true.
A. Church said so.
Q. Where did Church say the NT is true?
A. In the Church!
Makes sense?
The Church says NT is true but NT does not contain a single direct claim from BJ or even Jesus that he was God!

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You are actually the one that needs to fill in those spaces with explanation of what Jesus was teaching and doing that made the JEWS (not romans) want to crucify him.

Excuses have been given and I've successfully refuted them.

It makes no sense for you to ask me for "various" reasons Jews killed the prophets. Because in the Old Testament the Jews were perpetually sliding back into polytheism and paganism.

That was not the case among the Jews in Jesus day
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don't deviate, follow through on your earlier statement,
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so what were the various reasons Jews killed the prophets?
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2.___
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Infinity - infinity = indeterminate
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Why did BJ, at the ninth hour, shout in a loud voice,

"ELOI ELOI LAMA SABACHTHANI?"
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Now this is very interesting....

BJ the Jewish man allegedly came to die WILLINGLY for the sins the gentiles so that the gentiles can have eternal life!

Why did he cry as above then?

BJ was all reved up and ready to die as the first lamb that got nailed to a Roman cross without being properly slaughtered in the traditional style with his head being chopped off.

Why did he cry as above then?

1. Did God say to BJ "Simmer down boy...I know you are keen to die THIS MINUTE to save these losers....but..keep your hair down..I don't want you to die. I know my decision may be disappointing to you"?

2. Or was BJ in trouble begging God to help him get out of the mess?

Both explanations help Islam's claim?
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osirica wrote:
So you are supporting Athiesm, instead of rejecting Islam's unwarranted claim against... not just Christianity... but Judaism too.
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By rejecting BJ as God we support Judaism!

There can only be ONE God and that God CANNOT be BJ.

Both Muslims and Jews claim that BJ is NOT God.

We both believe that we worship ONE God who is unlike the creation.

Please read what "buford" said and my response to him before jumping the gun.
Thank you.
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hello fool...
Q. How do you know that BJ is your mangod?
A. BJ NEVER claimed that in the NT but Church said so.
Q. How do you know that NT is true.
A. Church said so.
Q. Where did Church say the NT is true?
A. In the Church!
Makes sense?
The Church says NT is true but NT does not contain a single direct claim from BJ or even Jesus that he was God!
Master Bait and Switcher,

At issue is circular MUSLIM logic, vis 'a vis, the Qur'an, but then, you never stay on point, not when you can seize the opportunity to attack your favorite whipping boy "BJ" in the "Who is Allah?" thread of the ISLAM Forum.

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