Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256390 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Eric

La Grange Park, IL

#174568 May 2, 2013
HughBe wrote:
A very small minority believe that he,Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, has God-like powers, or is the "CREATOR"
Wait a bit, these Jews are NOT Jews they believe that their rabbi was God Almighty the Creator.
They are into IDOLATRY and so are NOT Jews.
Wait Hugh, you can't do that. You said being a Jew is biology. Their biology has changed.

As I've said before, the Lubivitchers are a fringe group. The rabbis from other movements denounce them.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#174569 May 2, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait Hugh, you can't do that. You said being a Jew is biology. Their biology has changed.
As I've said before, the Lubivitchers are a fringe group. The rabbis from other movements denounce them.
Eric---Wait Hugh, you can't do that. You said being a Jew is biology. Their biology has changed.

HughBe--- Correct on both counts and that shall NEVER change.

What I wrote did not reflect my views or KNOWLEDGE. Instead, it reflects the false teachings/beliefs of Judaism.

Eric---As I've said before, the Lubivitchers are a fringe group. The rabbis from other movements denounce them

HughBe--- Memory tells me that Frijoles called them the FUTURE of Judaism. Remind me of their membership level and compare it to the Reform movement.

And Eric, it is a pity that you gave me the link to a FRINGE group. Why not the link to your group?

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#174570 May 2, 2013
How they nailed Jesus to the Cross.
http://www.jesus-passion.com/station_eleven.h...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#174571 May 2, 2013
osirica wrote:
Key Difference,
Those that knew Jesus knew him from the miracles he performed and his ressurrection, not on "purported status" and "will return".
So when Menachem mendel Schneerson ressurrects... then we can talk.
<quoted text>
I still like the parallel especially since it can be used to counter their BS with respect to the ONLY Messiah, Jesus , the Christ.

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#174572 May 2, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
What does the Christian doctrine say, was Jesus just nailed to the cross or did they tie his hands and legs to it as well? I asking this because I was listening to a lecture by this atheist scholar, and he said had Jesus only been nailed, he would have fallen off within 3 minutes.
How they nailed Jesus to the Cross.
http://www.jesus-passion.com/station_eleven.h...

“The Pleasure is all MINE”

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#174573 May 2, 2013
You can like it all day.

But guess what... you're stuck with that missing ressurrection.

See ya later.
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
I still like the parallel especially since it can be used to counter their BS with respect to the ONLY Messiah, Jesus , the Christ.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#174574 May 2, 2013
STATION ELEVEN

JESUS IS NAILED TO THE CROSS

PRAYER

V. We adore Thee, O Lord Jesus Christ, and bless Thee.
R. Because by Thy holy Cross Thou hast redeemed the world.

They then offered him some vinegar and gall, from which, however, he turned away in silence. The executioners did not allow him to rest long, but bade him rise and place himself on the cross that they might nail him to it. Then seizing his right arm they dragged it to the hole prepared for the nail, and having tied it tightly down with a cord, one of them knelt upon his sacred chest, a second held his hand flat,and a third taking a long thick nail, pressed it on the open palm of that adorable hand, which had ever been open to bestow blessings and favours on the ungrateful Jews, and with a great iron hammer drove it through the flesh, and far into the wood of the cross. Our Lord uttered one deep but suppressed groan, and his blood gushed forth andsprinkled the arms of the archers. I counted the blows of the hammer, but my extreme grief made me forget their number. The nails were very large, the heads about the size of a crown piece, and the thickness that of a man’s thumb, while the points came through at the back of the cross. The Blessed Virgin stood motionless; from time to time you might distinguish her plaintive moans; she appeared as if almost fainting from grief, and Magdalen was quite beside herself. When the executioners had nailed the right hand of our Lord, they perceived that his left hand did not reach the hole they had bored to receive the nail, therefore they tied ropes to his left arm, and having steadied their feet against the cross, pulled the left hand violently until it reached the place prepared for it. This dreadful process caused our Lord indescribable agony, his breast heaved, and his legs were quite contracted. They again knelt upon him, tied down his arms, and drove the second nail into his left hand; his blood flowed afresh, and his feeble groans were once more heard between the blows of the hammer, but nothing could move the hard-hearted executioners to the slightest pity. The arms of Jesus, thus unnaturally stretched out, no longer covered the arms of the cross, which were sloped; there was a wide space between them and his armpits. Each additional torture and insult inflicted on our Lord caused a fresh pang in the heart of his Blessed Mother; she became white as a corpse, but as the Pharisees endeavoured to increase her pain by insulting words and gestures, the disciples led her to a group of pious women who were standing a little farther off.

Since: Apr 11

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#174575 May 2, 2013
STATION ELEVEN Continued:

JESUS IS NAILED TO THE CROSS

PRAYER

V. We adore Thee, O Lord Jesus Christ, and bless Thee.
R. Because by Thy holy Cross Thou hast redeemed the world.

The executioners had fastened a piece of wood at the lower part of the cross under where the feet of Jesus would be nailed, that thus the weight of his body might not rest upon the wounds of his hands, as also to prevent the bones of his feet from being broken when nailed to the cross. A hole had been pierced in this wood to receive the nail when driven through his feet, and there was likewise a little hollow place for his heels These precautions were taken lest his wounds should be torn open by the weight of his body, and death ensue before he had suffered all the tortures which they hoped to see him endure. The whole body of our Lord had been dragged upward, and contracted by the violent manner with which the executioners had stretched out his arms, and his knees were bent up; they therefore flattened and tied them down tightly with cords; but soon perceiving that his feet did not reach the bit of wood which was placed for them to rest upon, they became infuriated. Some of their number proposed making fresh holes for the nails which pierced his hands, as there would be considerable difficulty in removing the bit of wood, but the others would do nothing of the sort, and continued to vociferate,‘He will not stretch himself out, but we will help him;’ they accompanied these words with the most fearful oaths and imprecations, and having fastened a rope to his right leg, dragged it violently until it reached the wood, and then tied it down as tightly as possible. The agony which Jesus suffered from this violent tension was indescribable; the words ‘My God, my God,’ escaped his lips, and the executioners increased his pain by tying his chest and arms to the cross, lest the hands should be torn from the nails. They then fastened his left foot on to his right foot, having first bored a hole through them with a species of piercer, because they could not be placed in such a position as to be nailed together at once. Next they took a very long nail and drove it completely through both feet into the cross below, which operation was more than usually painful, on account of his body being so unnaturally stretched out; I counted at least six and thirty blows of the hammer. During the whole time of the crucifixion our Lord never ceased praying, and repeating those passages in the Psalms which he was then accompanying, although from time to time a feeble moan caused by excess of suffering might be heard. In this manner he had prayed when carrying his cross, and thus he continued to pray until his death. I heard him repeat all these prophecies; I repeated them after him, and I have often since noted the different passages when reading the Psalms, but I now feel so exhausted with grief that I cannot at all connect them.

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#174576 May 2, 2013
STATION ELEVEN Continued:

JESUS IS NAILED TO THE CROSS

PRAYER

V. We adore Thee, O Lord Jesus Christ, and bless Thee.
R. Because by Thy holy Cross Thou hast redeemed the world.

When the crucifixion of Jesus was finished, the commander of the Roman soldiers ordered Pilate’s inscription. to be nailed on the top of the cross. The Pharisees were much incensed at this, and their anger was increased by the jeers of the Roman soldiers, who pointed at their crucified king; they therefore hastened back to Jerusalem, determined to use their best endeavours to persuade the governor to allow them to substitute another inscription.

It was about a quarter past twelve when Jesus was crucified; and at the moment the cross was lifted up, the Temple resounded with the blast of trumpets, which were always blown to announce the sacrifice of the Paschal Lamb.

______

PRAYER

Our Father, Hail Mary, Glory be.

V. Lord Jesus, nailed to the cross,

R. Have mercy on us.

__________
Eric

La Grange Park, IL

#174577 May 2, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Remind me of their membership level and compare it to the Reform movement.
And Eric, it is a pity that you gave me the link to a FRINGE group. Why not the link to your group?
Reform Jews in US total 1.1 million. Lubivitchers in the WORLD are only 250,000.

I am open minded. If the Lubivitchers have the best documentation on an issue, I'll go with that. I compared my translation with JPS and the Chabad.org and decided that Chabad.org was better. Of course open mindedness has never been one of your strong suits.
Eric

La Grange Park, IL

#174578 May 2, 2013
Shamma wrote:

PRAYER
Our Father, Hail Mary, Glory be.
V. Lord Jesus, nailed to the cross,
R. Have mercy on us.
__________
Hail Mary?

bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#174579 May 2, 2013
Shamma wrote:

PRAYER
Our Father, Hail Mary, Glory be.
V. Lord Jesus, nailed to the cross,
R. Have mercy on us.
__________
You forgot to add:

X. And save us from the cross.

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#174580 May 2, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Hail Mary?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =girW7nTNnMQXX
Bravo.
Good choice.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#174581 May 2, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Hail Mary?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =girW7nTNnMQXX
I noticed that too.

“The Pleasure is all MINE”

Since: Aug 08

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#174582 May 2, 2013
ok this thread is over.

No one answered the question

What was Jesus crucified for...

bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#174583 May 2, 2013
Shamma wrote:

It was about a quarter past twelve when Jesus was crucified; and at the moment the cross was lifted up, the Temple resounded with the blast of trumpets, which were always blown to announce the sacrifice of the Paschal Lamb.
Looks like a new bull shit.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#174584 May 2, 2013
osirica wrote:
ok this thread is over.
No one answered the question
What was Jesus crucified for...
Jesus was not crucified. So, the question does not arise.

“The Pleasure is all MINE”

Since: Aug 08

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#174585 May 2, 2013
Yea he was.

You're done. Blind denial.
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus was not crucified. So, the question does not arise.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#174586 May 2, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Reform Jews in US total 1.1 million. Lubivitchers in the WORLD are only 250,000.
I am open minded. If the Lubivitchers have the best documentation on an issue, I'll go with that. I compared my translation with JPS and the Chabad.org and decided that Chabad.org was better. Of course open mindedness has never been one of your strong suits.
Eric---Reform Jews in US total 1.1 million. Lubivitchers in the WORLD are only 250,000.

HughBe---

Lesson 1-- always compare like with like. So compare world figures with world etc.

Lesson 2-- 250,000 compared to 1.1 million is very very significant.

Lesson 3--- always give your links, for verification purposes unless there is something that you want to hide.

Lesson 4---Chabad-Lubavitch is a Hasidic movement in Orthodox Judaism. One of the world's LARGER and best-known Hasidic movements,(But still they are a FRINGE group, in your head)

Lesson 5--- The organization is the LARGEST Jewish ORGANIZATION in the world today(But still they are a FRINGE group, in your head)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chabad

Lesson 6---Reform Judaism is the largest denomination of American Jews today. With an estimated 700 000 members (Note, NOT your 1.1 Million members)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_Judaism_ (North_America)

Lesson 7--- Learn the POWER of LOVE, it has covered your "open mindedness" comment. You are forgiven.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#174587 May 2, 2013
osirica wrote:
You can like it all day.
But guess what... you're stuck with that missing ressurrection.
See ya later.
<quoted text>
ok, we shall talk again later.

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