Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256619 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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#171559 Apr 11, 2013
Carl Michael wrote:
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Dear uneducated Woggy,
Hitler may call himself Christian as long as he wanted, this doesnt mean Christianity caused or was the root of Nazism. There is no need to blame that religion. In the other hand if a Muslim takes some passages from Koran and declare war to someone, as often happens, then the fault goes also to the religion.
Hitler claimed to be the Messiah. Golliwog, which religion you want to blame for it, Christianity or Judaism?
What's the implication of the Roman Catholic Church with Nazism?
Before coming to power in January of 1933, Hitler wrote about his reaction to Berlin on his first visit there: "The luxury, the perversion, the iniquity, the wanton display, and the Jewish materialism [of Berlin’s commercial district] disgusted me so thoroughly that I was almost beside myself," Hitler recalled. "I nearly imagined myself to be Jesus Christ when he came to his Father’s temple and found it full of money-changers. I can well imagine how he felt when he seized a whip and scourged them out."
When Hitler compared himself to Jesus, he was proclaiming his own divinity. Knowing as we do that Hitler’s ambitions were eventually blown to smithereens, it’s hard for us to realize how many Germans considered him a supernatural being.
Except for the tabloids, the international media tended to downplay his most grandiose claims. But the Vatican understood how important it was to talk back to Hitler on the divinity issue. In 1937, Pope Pius XI issued an official letter entitled "With Burning Heart" that scorned Hitler for his claims to godhood.
At a time when people throughout the world still believed Hitler to be a progressive force, the Catholic Church condemned him as a dangerous villain. It denounced the chief Nazi for his racism and attacked Hitler for "placing himself on the same level as Christ." Effectively summarizing Hitler’s personality, the Church labeled him "a mad prophet possessed of repulsive arrogance."
Thus did Pope Pius call for the downfall of the German dictator. However, Pius XI did not want to publically speak against Hitler because Hitler was already sending many Catholics to the concentration camps and he felt public speaking would endanger Catholics more. Instead he worked from the back end, spearheading the largest "underground railroad" (to get Jews out of Germany) in WW II. Many Catholic priests did speak in the pulpet against Hitler even when they faced arrest and death and many Catholic families hid Jewish families to save them from the Nazi terror.
When Hitler first came to power, some churches were with him, but soon many became disgusted with his methods. Ministers who preached against Hitler were arrested and taken to concentration camps. But Hitler especially hated Catholics - perhaps because he knew Pope Pius XI was in the background helping hundeds of Jews to safety or perhaps because Hitler had been expelled from Catholic elementary school. Whatever the case, it is estimated that 1 million Catholics died in concentration camps and many convents and monastaries were despoiled and worse.
I agree that if a Muslim and a Christian come to fight for personal reasons, and say one of them die. It should be accused the person and not his religious background. When instead a person take verses from its holy book where encourage violence or its priest encourage it, then it makes sense to accuse his religious background.

Take for instance the KKK they are Christians, but they act as they are not. But the posters here will call them Christians, like if religion was the cause of their actions, when it's not.

If someones kill people, the posters here will label him with his religious denomination. As you can see here it's high the level of ignorance of these posters.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#171561 Apr 11, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
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Churchill would have said you are an expert on "Terminological inexactitude"
Did you know that the phrase has its very own web page?

http://www.terminologicalinexactitude.com/
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#171562 Apr 11, 2013
Was Mussolini Christian?
What was his connection with Vatican and the Vatican State?

Let's not make any mistake.

I AM talking about morons who "think/thought" they were Christians while committing the atrocities, just the same as morons from other religions who "think" that they are muslim, jew, hindu, buddhist etc.

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#171563 Apr 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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And I have told you many many many times that halacha is also based on minchag (custom)
I dont get why you dont get that
It might bother you that there is "no reason" but obviously it doesnt bother us.
Us Jews dont exist here on the internet to rationalize our religion. Thats your deal, not ours.
As of the applicability to Skeptic, I am fine with him interpreting. But he has to come clean and say that. I never embellish quotes. Thats the equivalence, not which religion is more or less rational. Religion is never rational, thats why it is religion.
You introduced halacha, and were quite generic about it, not me. I only answered to what is posted on Judaism 101.

Religion is never rational? Said by someone who religion is made by rabbis who try their best to find the most absurd interpretations for simple verses? Not just me but even Albert Einstein, a Jewish said that your interpretations have almost nothing to do with the original texts.

Rational means showing clear thought or reason.

But your problem is your rationalizations are baseless, in most cases, when you give the Torah verses and compare them with the interpretation given.

Your phrase 'religion is never rational' may match with one of Shamma's phrases.

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#171564 Apr 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/26...
and regarding politeness - my point is that I am not here to pick a fight with you, so I dont get why you are always hostile.
As of bigotry you accuse me of - do you see me on here posting 24/7 about how "evil" other religions are? Maybe once in a while, but most of the time I am here defending my own. ANd with the nitwits like Skeptic it is not really directed at his religion but at him personally.
I am hostile I just said how they things.

Bigotry is not measured by the time a poster spend here... So yes you are still a bigot even if you appear "once in a while".

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#171565 Apr 11, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>I am nit Skeptic.
But you your self said that I am Skeptic and what I posted was to show tou that I know the difference and only use pasted responses to give a clear point of view on the subject matter.
In an single post I gave my point of view on Pantheism, and Panentheism.
If you aren't Skeptic then there is no reason for you to answer me back, because you are not him, right?

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#171566 Apr 11, 2013
Funny thing is that even Skeptic denied to be THINK, and claimed to be his son, nevertheless no one was fooled back then... LOL

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#171567 Apr 11, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Greece - Language, Culture and Doing Business Etiquette
Facts and Statistics
Location: Southern Europe, bordering Albania 282 km, Bulgaria 494 km, Turkey 206 km, The
Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia 246 km
Capital: Athens
Climate: mostly mountains with ranges extending into the sea as peninsulas or chains of islands
Population: 10,647,529 (July 2004 est.)
Ethnic Make-up: Greek 98%, other 2%
Don't make a fool of yourself. Greece is the name of the nation, whereas Greek is the adjective. You can't use them as they are the same thing.

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#171568 Apr 11, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
Was Mussolini Christian?
What was his connection with Vatican and the Vatican State?
Let's not make any mistake.
I AM talking about morons who "think/thought" they were Christians while committing the atrocities, just the same as morons from other religions who "think" that they are muslim, jew, hindu, buddhist etc.
Mussolini a Christian? LOL

He was atheist. When he was little his mother tried to educate him into RCC but she failed and since young he became atheist. So he didn't think to be Christians while doing what he did, nor he was thinking to be atheist while he was doing what he did.

Regardless his belief background he did what he did because of his thinking, the same goes for Hitler.

You can blame religious people when they use their religion as means to incite or make violence.

If Usain Bolt kill someone who insulted him I don't blame his religion, or athletic. That's silly.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#171569 Apr 11, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Thanks, Rabbee
No, I will never disclose your identity and I will keep your identity a secret. I don't want taht murderer to go after you.
Wasn't her name Chaooah? Has she changed her name?
Salaams, Rabbee
BMZ
rabbee: chaooah is a title i gave to the woman, not her worldly name. it is eevreet, and it means broad birth, wide birth or all birth. because she is the mother, of all on earth. her worldly name is sarah carney, and she is considered to be dangerously irish. so her worldly name is not eve either, as verified by TheTorah Scroll.

and the chances are that adam will never even meet, with a woman by the name of eve. unless this world, quits telling that mythological lie.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#171570 Apr 11, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Rabbee,
I don't want to sound like Judas in John 14:22 but Rabbee, how is it You're going to reveal Yourself to me and not to the world?
rabbee: by like internet lightning, from east to west you are being informed. since G-D told me, about this internet before it ever existed again.

but i suppose with G-D, takes off for the day of rest. could be fairly dramatic, when THEY come to visit me and the woman appointed as chaooah. and put the both of us, in charge of all physical totality again.

but since we do not yet, know if G-D is going to appoint the same woman sarah faye ann carney again. as the the grandmother of all, we won't know exactly for sure who HaMosheeach actually is. since this is dependant on the specific woman, HaShem G-D gives me with.
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#171571 Apr 11, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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Mussolini a Christian? LOL
He was atheist. When he was little his mother tried to educate him into RCC but she failed and since young he became atheist. So he didn't think to be Christians while doing what he did, nor he was thinking to be atheist while he was doing what he did.
Regardless his belief background he did what he did because of his thinking, the same goes for Hitler.
You can blame religious people when they use their religion as means to incite or make violence.
If Usain Bolt kill someone who insulted him I don't blame his religion, or athletic. That's silly.
We know all that but...to carry a whip imitating Jesus is a bit too much for hitler!
So..........
Hitler was an Atheist?
Mussolini was an Atheist?

The two of the worst people on planet earth were Atheists?

I am not looking for a list of "religious" people...who are nutcases..because they are likely to be Atheists who use religion as an excuse.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#171572 Apr 11, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
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Hello dear HughBe, how are you?
You have raised some thought provoking questions.
To be fair we are dealing with the lies and misinformation that are being pumped by the likes of Skeptic and that lowlife "john" from the island of convicts, who do no great service to Christianity.
You know when I say "christians", I am talking about the bigoted ignorant superstitious morons and not the decent Christian folks who go about their day to day affairs like the rest of decent humans.
I hope that I am fair when it comes to criticising "muslims", "jews" "hindus" who behave like skeptic or "john".
I am not a supporter of "muslims" who blame america/israel if their toilet doesn't flush!! They need to first clean up their own act.
How can I support a corrupt leader of muslim country who never hesitated to enjoy the nation's stolen wealth with "foreigners", if he uses his fake "muslim" card, when the chips are down?
We know america is not the fairest of countries, but I care for that country and its people enough to be able to challenge the policitians and lobbies.
What is the alternative? To be controlled by North korea or Russia? The answer is NO way!
What I mentioned about Hitler and Mussolini cannot be buried as "past" deeds, when people like skeptic and john are still promoting the same disgusting ideas, but the intended victims are now muslims instead of Jews.
You know my opinion about the books that have been edited/corrected to give oneself more importance than others, but that is not the fault of the followers.
Many are dealing with the deceitful "holy" hierarchy by refusing to attend places or worship or by not adhering to the discriminatory "rules".
Whether Hitler was Jewish and/or African by race makes no difference when judging him for his cruel, bigoted, evil and warped behaviour that arises from his understanding of the "holy" bible.
Peace.
Alex---Hello dear HughBe, how are you?

HughBe--- I'm fine and thanks for asking, Alex.

Alex---To be fair we are dealing with the lies and misinformation that are being pumped by the likes of Skeptic and that lowlife "john" from the island of convicts, who do no great service to Christianity.

HughBe--- Irrespective of source, LIES must be condemned.

Alex--We know america is not the fairest of countries..

HughBe--- agree

Alex---What is the alternative? To be controlled by North korea or Russia? The answer is NO way!

HughBe--- FREEDOM from ALL of them. Over 40 years ago JFK a former American President WARNED that there is a very GRAVE DANGER that some would use the excuse that there is a NEED for increased security TO censor, INTIMIDATE, stifle DISSENT etc. Pay attention to his words i.e. "RUTHLESS conspiracy"

Those who have an ear to ear let them hear.

How has the WORLD changed since 9/11? What is the reason for the change? Is it the need for increased SECURITY as JFK said?



Alex---What I mentioned about Hitler and Mussolini cannot be buried as "past" deeds, when people like skeptic and john are still promoting the same disgusting ideas...

HughBe--- EVIL must be condemned.

Alex--You know my opinion about the books that have been edited/corrected to give oneself more importance than others, but that is not the fault of the followers.

HughBe--- The followers could try the art of THINKING. Followers boast of many Nobel Prizes etc so where is their excuses not to THINK and to deal with instruments/Pharaohs of MOST if not ALL of their misfortunes?

Alex--Whether Hitler was Jewish and/or African by race makes no difference when judging him for his cruel, bigoted, evil and warped behaviour that arises from his understanding of the "holy" bible.

HughBe--- Take a look at his picture again, any African blood would be A drop.

Again, EVILS of Hitler or the Pharaohs are EVIL and must be condemned.

Evil of America is EVIL.

Evil of Israel is Evil.

Evil is EVIL.
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#171573 Apr 11, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
Funny thing is that even Skeptic denied to be THINK, and claimed to be his son, nevertheless no one was fooled back then... LOL
lol...
really?
Skeptic deserves a medal for translucency.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#171574 Apr 11, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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Mussolini a Christian? LOL
He was atheist. When he was little his mother tried to educate him into RCC but she failed and since young he became atheist. So he didn't think to be Christians while doing what he did, nor he was thinking to be atheist while he was doing what he did.
Regardless his belief background he did what he did because of his thinking, the same goes for Hitler.
You can blame religious people when they use their religion as means to incite or make violence.
If Usain Bolt kill someone who insulted him I don't blame his religion, or athletic. That's silly.
good post
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#171575 Apr 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Did you know that the phrase has its very own web page?
http://www.terminologicalinexactitude.com/
lol...never knew such things existed.
Are they pumping lies or exposing liars? lol..
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#171576 Apr 11, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Alex---Hello dear HughBe, how are you?
HughBe--- I'm fine and thanks for asking, Alex.
Alex---To be fair we are dealing with the lies and misinformation that are being pumped by the likes of Skeptic and that lowlife "john" from the island of convicts, who do no great service to Christianity.
HughBe--- Irrespective of source, LIES must be condemned.
Alex--We know america is not the fairest of countries..
HughBe--- agree
Alex---What is the alternative? To be controlled by North korea or Russia? The answer is NO way!
HughBe--- FREEDOM from ALL of them. Over 40 years ago JFK a former American President WARNED that there is a very GRAVE DANGER that some would use the excuse that there is a NEED for increased security TO censor, INTIMIDATE, stifle DISSENT etc. Pay attention to his words i.e. "RUTHLESS conspiracy"
Those who have an ear to ear let them hear.
How has the WORLD changed since 9/11? What is the reason for the change? Is it the need for increased SECURITY as JFK said?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =V1smgz-px1QXX
Alex---What I mentioned about Hitler and Mussolini cannot be buried as "past" deeds, when people like skeptic and john are still promoting the same disgusting ideas...
HughBe--- EVIL must be condemned.
Alex--You know my opinion about the books that have been edited/corrected to give oneself more importance than others, but that is not the fault of the followers.
HughBe--- The followers could try the art of THINKING. Followers boast of many Nobel Prizes etc so where is their excuses not to THINK and to deal with instruments/Pharaohs of MOST if not ALL of their misfortunes?
Alex--Whether Hitler was Jewish and/or African by race makes no difference when judging him for his cruel, bigoted, evil and warped behaviour that arises from his understanding of the "holy" bible.
HughBe--- Take a look at his picture again, any African blood would be A drop.
Again, EVILS of Hitler or the Pharaohs are EVIL and must be condemned.
Evil of America is EVIL.
Evil of Israel is Evil.
Evil is EVIL.
I am happy to agree with most of what you say with a cpouple of caveats...
- As you know some are born to rule and some others are born to be ruled...and that simple fact of life cannot be ignored. If EVIL america comes off the boil, we will be probably fighting EVIL russia, korea,japan or china.
- Some corrupt leaders who call themselves "muslims" are EVIL.
- The answer is to pray to God for help and through God help arrived in many forms!
- When truth confronts falsehood, falsehood will always perish (eventually?)
Peace.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#171577 Apr 11, 2013
Observe the actions in land of FREE speech and the FREE people.

What Evil did the young man DO?

Is it better than Russia?

Alex123 WM

London, UK

#171578 Apr 11, 2013
Quite funny!
When hitler and mussolini quote CHRISTIANITY, prop up the church including vatican, they are seen as atheists/liars who use religion..

but when "bin laden" (if there was a person by that name!) quotes islam, he is seen as a muslim!!

Funny indeed!
All bad people are muslims because christians cannot be bad!!.lol..
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#171579 Apr 11, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
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I am happy to agree with most of what you say with a cpouple of caveats...
- As you know some are born to rule and some others are born to be ruled...and that simple fact of life cannot be ignored. If EVIL america comes off the boil, we will be probably fighting EVIL russia, korea,japan or china.
- Some corrupt leaders who call themselves "muslims" are EVIL.
- The answer is to pray to God for help and through God help arrived in many forms!
- When truth confronts falsehood, falsehood will always perish (eventually?)
Peace.
The EVIL done by one party is it better than the identical EVIL committed by another?

Is suppression and oppression in America better than suppression and oppression in Russia?

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