Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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<quoted text>Muhammad screwed up your mind Alex.
Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."
There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
So your testimony for Frijolie is not reliable
Alex. Here is Why.
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (16:106)- Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (3:28)- This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."
Qur'an (9:3)- "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
Qur'an (40:28)- A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.
Qur'an (2:225)- "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.
Qur'an (66:2)- "Allah has already ordained for you,(O men), the dissolution of your oaths"
Qur'an (3:54)- "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same.(See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
Skeptic your hatred for Islam is making you seriously ill.
There are more similarities between my faith and Judaism than differences. Human nature is that we tend to argue over relatively minor differences without making serious attempts to form bonds over our similarities.
I am not into lying skeptic. Islam does not tell me to lie. You are a very confused person. Sometimes I may say the wrong thing or give the wrong information accidentally but I never deliberately.
You are quoting a verse that was intended to help besieged people save their lives.
My comments on Frijoles or Eric are genuine. We may not see eye to eye on a few things but I don't see them as weird or paranoid folks. They have tried to remain quite neutral, perhaps more neutral than me on occasion.
I don't seek approval but I cannot stand idly by while you name call almost every person with an independent mind!!
No skeptic, they are not sick. You should be ashamed of yourself for your nasty behaviour. NQ does not deserve your insults either.
Take care.
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<quoted text>Frijolie's remarks were anti-human.
Muslims are Anti-human.
You both make a perfect pair.
Such sweeping remarks make you look anti human.
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<quoted text>Frijolie's remarks were anti-human.
Muslims are Anti-human.
You both make a perfect pair.
No Shamma the only one I see being prejudice and biased is you... Your views are unhealthy, insular and not on par with reality
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<quoted text>Then you had no right to make the comment that you did.
You were being vicious.
Now you want to make a big stink about my remarks on your comment.
You are sic Frijole and need to have your head examined.
You should have watched the video.
It was put out jointly funded by a Jewish organization that had the right moral attitude against human abuse..
Instead of making personal attacks why don't you look at this seriously and challenge your own corrupt establishment...
http://vaticanscandal.com/italian-priest-arre...
Italian priest arrested for 4 million-euro fraud

(AFP) 1 day ago

ROME Italian police on Thursday arrested a priest accused of defrauding a Vatican-linked hospital in Rome that he managed of four million euros ($5.1 million), part of which he used to buy an 18-room villa in Tuscany set on 23 hectares of land.

Father Franco Decaminada, a friar who took vows of poverty, has been placed under house arrest.

He headed up the prestigious Immaculate Institute of Dermopathology between 2004 and 2011.

The specialist hospital has been placed under administration after it registered losses of 600 million euros and pope Benedict XVI in one of his last acts as pontiff last month appointed a cardinal to resolve its economic woes.

The tax police said in a statement that Decaminada bought his villa in Tuscany for a million euros -- "essentially with the proceeds of his crime".

"The investigation traced fraud for a total of 14 million euros," the police said.

Italian media said police linked four million euros of that total directly to Decaminada.

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Skeptic your hatred for Islam is making you seriously ill.
There are more similarities between my faith and Judaism than differences. Human nature is that we tend to argue over relatively minor differences without making serious attempts to form bonds over our similarities.
I am not into lying skeptic. Islam does not tell me to lie. You are a very confused person. Sometimes I may say the wrong thing or give the wrong information accidentally but I never deliberately.
You are quoting a verse that was intended to help besieged people save their lives.
My comments on Frijoles or Eric are genuine. We may not see eye to eye on a few things but I don't see them as weird or paranoid folks. They have tried to remain quite neutral, perhaps more neutral than me on occasion.
I don't seek approval but I cannot stand idly by while you name call almost every person with an independent mind!!
No skeptic, they are not sick. You should be ashamed of yourself for your nasty behaviour. NQ does not deserve your insults either.
Take care.
Take some time to listen to this man speak about the sameness of Islam and Christianity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Instead of making personal attacks why don't you look at this seriously and challenge your own corrupt establishment...
http://vaticanscandal.com/italian-priest-arre...
Italian priest arrested for 4 million-euro fraud
(AFP) 1 day ago
ROME Italian police on Thursday arrested a priest accused of defrauding a Vatican-linked hospital in Rome that he managed of four million euros ($5.1 million), part of which he used to buy an 18-room villa in Tuscany set on 23 hectares of land.
Father Franco Decaminada, a friar who took vows of poverty, has been placed under house arrest.
He headed up the prestigious Immaculate Institute of Dermopathology between 2004 and 2011.
The specialist hospital has been placed under administration after it registered losses of 600 million euros and pope Benedict XVI in one of his last acts as pontiff last month appointed a cardinal to resolve its economic woes.
The tax police said in a statement that Decaminada bought his villa in Tuscany for a million euros -- "essentially with the proceeds of his crime".
"The investigation traced fraud for a total of 14 million euros," the police said.
Italian media said police linked four million euros of that total directly to Decaminada.
You don't get it Alex.
I don't hate Muslims.
I am telling Muslims its wrong for them to hate Christians, and non-Muslims for their non-belief in their Allah god.
It is the Muslims that are murdering innocent people to further their cause for their religion.
All I am doing is pointing out that Muhammad's religion of Islam is
founded on Muhammad's worship of jinn devils.
And to murder people for that cause is wrong.
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Have you learned the art of lying from the renowned Christian liars Craig Winn, Silas, Robert Spencer, Pat Robertson and Sam Shamoun and the Church?
I quote from the translation of Qur'aan by George Sale, a Christian polemicist:
"Whoever denieth God, after he hath believed, except him who shall be compelled against his will, and whose heart continueth stedfast in the faith, shall be severely chastised: But whoever shall voluntarily profess infidelity, on those shall the indignation of God fall, and they shall suffer a grievous punishment. "
It is an exception, ignorant fool!
Read the exception: "except him who shall be compelled against his will, and whose heart continueth stedfast in the faith,"
Imagine this scenario:
If some of your barbaric Christians surround a weak Muslim, hounding him, threatening to behead him and ask him, "Are you a Muslim?" and that man is scared of his life under duress but has full faith and belief in God, and says, "I am not", then God will not take him to task, for God knows that he has full faith and belief in God and he did that to save himself.
So, he was compelled by the group of pagan Christians. No worries there.
Bwahhahhahhahhah!
You muztards are a JOKE.
"If some of your barbaric Christians surround a weak Muslim, hounding him, threatening to behead him".
You've got to be freaking kidding me. It's muztards who surround and behead their victims, not Christains. Muztards are infamous for such brutality as they imitate their butchering paedophile false prophet, nobody else.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/category/behead...

You muztards are sick.
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Instead of making personal attacks why don't you look at this seriously and challenge your own corrupt establishment...
http://vaticanscandal.com/italian-priest-arre...
Italian priest arrested for 4 million-euro fraud
(AFP) 1 day ago
ROME Italian police on Thursday arrested a priest accused of defrauding a Vatican-linked hospital in Rome that he managed of four million euros ($5.1 million), part of which he used to buy an 18-room villa in Tuscany set on 23 hectares of land.
Father Franco Decaminada, a friar who took vows of poverty, has been placed under house arrest.
He headed up the prestigious Immaculate Institute of Dermopathology between 2004 and 2011.
The specialist hospital has been placed under administration after it registered losses of 600 million euros and pope Benedict XVI in one of his last acts as pontiff last month appointed a cardinal to resolve its economic woes.
The tax police said in a statement that Decaminada bought his villa in Tuscany for a million euros -- "essentially with the proceeds of his crime".
"The investigation traced fraud for a total of 14 million euros," the police said.
Italian media said police linked four million euros of that total directly to Decaminada.
In Christianity we call such corrupt people "criminals".
In Islam the paedophile plundering mullahs are just obeying mad mo and are beyond the law.
The crimes of a clique of criminal priests in the Catholic church is nothing compared to the behaviour of muztard criminals, where paedophilia and brutality are a way of life.
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Such sweeping remarks make you look anti human.
No, he's right.
Muztards are spiritually dead.
They serve their master the butchering paedophile mad mo, and mad mo serves Satan.
Satan is anti-human.
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<quoted text>In Christianity we call such corrupt people "criminals".
In Islam the paedophile plundering mullahs are just obeying mad mo and are beyond the law.
The crimes of a clique of criminal priests in the Catholic church is nothing compared to the behaviour of muztard criminals, where paedophilia and brutality are a way of life.
What!!! Where does it state that pedophilia is legal in the Quran come on example please not just some wild statement
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What!!! Where does it state that pedophilia is legal in the Quran come on example please not just some wild statement
plenty in the hadith

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:
Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65:
Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151: Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me.(The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.)(Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)
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What!!! Where does it state that pedophilia is legal in the Quran come on example please not just some wild statement
Oh FFS ana, I don't know whether to feel sorry for a true believing idiot like you or whether to just despise you.
Islam and paedophilia go hand in hand.
Mad mo molested poor Aisha from the age of 6.
Here, enjoy.
http://schnellmann.org/Muhammad_the_Pedophile...
No, there is no mistranslation.
LOL.
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Hey ana, I'm not sure but I think we have a few muztard approved paedophiles here.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UGQAgY1Apw8/TbIZnfa...
LOL.
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<quoted text>plenty in the hadith

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:
Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65:
Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151: Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me.(The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.)(Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)
It was foreseeable that you would pull out this tried and tested and exhausted argument

Before this era, During this era and for centuries after, it was common for people to marry very young, this was not something unique to Islam.... And the marriage was consummated as soon as the girl started her menses....this was considered normal then,

times have changed since, it is no longer considered normal, because moral codes have changed over time... It doesn't specify an age for marriage in the Quran

People also didn't live as long then... The life span tended to be much shorter, this happened before and after the time of prophet Mohamed peace be upon him...people's social and financial circumstance was different... Especially a woman's, Islam actually gave women rights which they were denied before..

And it happened 1400 years or so ago

See examples below of examples other than islam throughout history

Edward II's daughter Joan is married to Prince David of Scotland in 1328 when she is seven and he is four. Princess Isabella of France marries Richard II in 1396 when she is seven, although she has the opportunity to change her mind later.

Lady Margaret Beaufort is 13 when she gives birth to the future Henry VII in 1457. But in 1414, a Welsh couple are sent to Henry V as a 'marvel' because they have had a baby: allegedly, she is seven and he is nine.

The Age of consent for girls in America before the 19th century was as low as 10!(I wonder what it would've been if America existed at the time of Prophet Mohammad 1400 hundred years ago?!) and these same Americans criticize the prophet of Islam for marrying a 9 year old girl 1400 hundred years ago while in their own country NOT 1400 years ago but ONLY 100 years ago the age of consent for girls was as low as 10, hilarious indeed.

In the late nineteenth century,"Age of consent" referred to the legal age at which a girl could consent to sexual relations. Men who engaged in sexual relations with girls who had not reached the age of consent could be criminally prosecuted. American reformers were shocked to discover that the laws of most states set the age of consent at the age of ten or twelve, and in one state, Delaware, the age of consent was only seven.

Age of consent in England:
The age of consent for heterosexual acts was set at 12 in 1275 and remained so for six centuries.

The age of consent in Spain is 13, as specified by the Spanish Penal Code, Articles 181(2) and 183.

The National age of consent in Japan is 13 for both males and females, as specified by the Japanese Penal Code Articles 176 and 177.

In the talmud, girls were married off at the age of 3.

In one of the bibles, Joseph was 90 years old when he married 12 to 14-year old Mary
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<quoted text>Oh FFS ana, I don't know whether to feel sorry for a true believing idiot like you or whether to just despise you.
Islam and paedophilia go hand in hand.
Mad mo molested poor Aisha from the age of 6.
Here, enjoy.
http://schnellmann.org/Muhammad_the_Pedophile...
No, there is no mistranslation.
LOL.
I don't need pity from a xenophobe
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It was foreseeable that you would pull out this tried and tested and exhausted argument
Before this era, During this era and for centuries after, it was common for people to marry very young, this was not something unique to Islam.... And the marriage was consummated as soon as the girl started her menses....this was considered normal then,
times have changed since, it is no longer considered normal, because moral codes have changed over time... It doesn't specify an age for marriage in the Quran
People also didn't live as long then... The life span tended to be much shorter, this happened before and after the time of prophet Mohamed peace be upon him...people's social and financial circumstance was different... Especially a woman's, Islam actually gave women rights which they were denied before..
And it happened 1400 years or so ago
See examples below of examples other than islam throughout history
Edward II's daughter Joan is married to Prince David of Scotland in 1328 when she is seven and he is four. Princess Isabella of France marries Richard II in 1396 when she is seven, although she has the opportunity to change her mind later.
Lady Margaret Beaufort is 13 when she gives birth to the future Henry VII in 1457. But in 1414, a Welsh couple are sent to Henry V as a 'marvel' because they have had a baby: allegedly, she is seven and he is nine.
The Age of consent for girls in America before the 19th century was as low as 10!(I wonder what it would've been if America existed at the time of Prophet Mohammad 1400 hundred years ago?!) and these same Americans criticize the prophet of Islam for marrying a 9 year old girl 1400 hundred years ago while in their own country NOT 1400 years ago but ONLY 100 years ago the age of consent for girls was as low as 10, hilarious indeed.
In the late nineteenth century,"Age of consent" referred to the legal age at which a girl could consent to sexual relations. Men who engaged in sexual relations with girls who had not reached the age of consent could be criminally prosecuted. American reformers were shocked to discover that the laws of most states set the age of consent at the age of ten or twelve, and in one state, Delaware, the age of consent was only seven.
Age of consent in England:
The age of consent for heterosexual acts was set at 12 in 1275 and remained so for six centuries.
The age of consent in Spain is 13, as specified by the Spanish Penal Code, Articles 181(2) and 183.
The National age of consent in Japan is 13 for both males and females, as specified by the Japanese Penal Code Articles 176 and 177.
In the talmud, girls were married off at the age of 3.
In one of the bibles, Joseph was 90 years old when he married 12 to 14-year old Mary
It was foreseeable that you would pull out this tried and tested and exhausted reply.

In all the examples of kings and queens you gave nowhere the man was 51 and the girl 6 and often they were betrothed at a a young age and did not cohabit till much later on. There has never been such a shocking age gap. Besides isn't your prophet suppose to be an example to follow for all times? I dont see an enduring example to follow in an old man of 54 having sex with a 9 years old. Do you?
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It was foreseeable that you would pull out this tried and tested and exhausted argument
Before this era, During this era and for centuries after, it was common for people to marry very young, this was not something unique to Islam.... And the marriage was consummated as soon as the girl started her menses....this was considered normal then,
times have changed since, it is no longer considered normal, because moral codes have changed over time... It doesn't specify an age for marriage in the Quran
People also didn't live as long then... The life span tended to be much shorter, this happened before and after the time of prophet Mohamed peace be upon him...people's social and financial circumstance was different... Especially a woman's, Islam actually gave women rights which they were denied before..
And it happened 1400 years or so ago
See examples below of examples other than islam throughout history
Edward II's daughter Joan is married to Prince David of Scotland in 1328 when she is seven and he is four. Princess Isabella of France marries Richard II in 1396 when she is seven, although she has the opportunity to change her mind later.
Lady Margaret Beaufort is 13 when she gives birth to the future Henry VII in 1457. But in 1414, a Welsh couple are sent to Henry V as a 'marvel' because they have had a baby: allegedly, she is seven and he is nine.
The Age of consent for girls in America before the 19th century was as low as 10!(I wonder what it would've been if America existed at the time of Prophet Mohammad 1400 hundred years ago?!) and these same Americans criticize the prophet of Islam for marrying a 9 year old girl 1400 hundred years ago while in their own country NOT 1400 years ago but ONLY 100 years ago the age of consent for girls was as low as 10, hilarious indeed.
In the late nineteenth century,"Age of consent" referred to the legal age at which a girl could consent to sexual relations. Men who engaged in sexual relations with girls who had not reached the age of consent could be criminally prosecuted. American reformers were shocked to discover that the laws of most states set the age of consent at the age of ten or twelve, and in one state, Delaware, the age of consent was only seven.
Age of consent in England:
The age of consent for heterosexual acts was set at 12 in 1275 and remained so for six centuries.
The age of consent in Spain is 13, as specified by the Spanish Penal Code, Articles 181(2) and 183.
The National age of consent in Japan is 13 for both males and females, as specified by the Japanese Penal Code Articles 176 and 177.
In the talmud, girls were married off at the age of 3.
In one of the bibles, Joseph was 90 years old when he married 12 to 14-year old Mary
I don't give a shit for what some goat in the Talmud did 5 thousand years ago, or for what the Japs do.
What I care about is when the most repulsive primitive evil people on planet earth today, the muztards, come into the western world preaching their horrid satanic cult, molesting children, gang raping women, beheading people and all the other sick shit muztards do in obedience to their sick butchering paedophile false prophet mad mo.
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<quoted text>I don't give a shit for what some goat in the Talmud did 5 thousand years ago, or for what the Japs do.
What I care about is when the most repulsive primitive evil people on planet earth today, the muztards, come into the western world preaching their horrid satanic cult, molesting children, gang raping women, beheading people and all the other sick shit muztards do in obedience to their sick butchering paedophile false prophet mad mo.
My god you are a vile person aren't you

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It is quite possible that Eric is normal and you may be sick?
Eric IS a normal person but it is quite obvious that Shamma is not. Shamma is a very sick trinitarian Christian. This happens when three persons dwell in a man's heart, mind and soul.

I can assure you that the Devil resides in Shamma's bowels.

Forgive him ex-Father for what he does and please do not tell Shamma, "Your sins are forgiven", because he will sin more and more.

Salaams

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My god you are a vile person aren't you
Indeed!

Not only that but John is also a sicko! You will find most of the trinitarian Christians, vile and toxic.

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