Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Muhammad's own words.
Fighting.
Ishaq:550 "The Muslims met them with their swords. They cut through many arms and skulls. Only confused cries and groans could be heard over our battle roars and snarling."
Qur'an:5:94 "Believers, Allah will make a test for you in the form of a little game in which you reach out for your lances. Any who fails this test will have a grievous punishment."
Ishaq:578 "Crushing the heads of the infidels and splitting their skulls with sharp swords, we continually thrust and cut at the enemy. Blood gushed from their deep wounds as the battle wore them down. We conquered bearing the Prophet's fluttering war banner. Our cavalry was submerged in rising dust, and our spears quivered, but by us the Prophet gained victory."
Tabari IX:22 "The Prophet continued to besiege the town, fighting them bitterly."
Tabari IX:25 "By Allah, I did not come to fight for nothing. I wanted a victory over Ta'if so that I might obtain a slave girl from them and make her pregnant."
Tabari IX:82 "The Messenger sent Khalid with an army of 400 to Harith [a South Arabian tribe] and ordered him to invite them to Islam for three days before he fought them. If they were to respond and submit, he was to teach them the Book of Allah, the Sunnah of His Prophet, and the requirements of Islam. If they should decline, then he was to fight them."
Tabari IX:88 "Abdallah Azdi came to the Messenger, embraced Islam, and became a good Muslim. Allah's Apostle invested Azdi with the authority over those who had surrendered and ordered him to fight the infidels from the tribes of Yemen. Azdi left with an army by the Messenger's command. The Muslims besieged them for a month. Then they withdrew, setting a trap. When the Yemenites went in pursuit, Azdi was able to inflict a heavy loss on them."
Ishaq:530 "Get out of his way, you infidel unbelievers. Every good thing goes with the Apostle. Lord, I believe in his word. We will fight you about its interpretations as we have fought you about its revelation with strokes that will remove heads from shoulders and make enemies of friends."
Muslim:C9B1N29 "Command For Fighting Against People So Long As They Do Not Profess That There Is No Ilah (God) But Allah And Muhammad Is His Messenger: When the Messenger breathed his last and Bakr was appointed Caliph, many Arabs chose to become apostates [rejected Islam]. Abu Bakr said:'I will definitely fight against anyone who stops paying the Zakat tax, for it is an obligation. I will fight against them even to secure the cord used for hobbling the feet of a camel which they used to pay if they withhold it now.' Allah had justified fighting against those who refused to pay Zakat."
Muslim:C9B1N33 "The Prophet said:'I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prostration prayer, and pay Zakat. If they do it, their blood and property are protected.'"
Muslim:C10B1N176 "Muhammad (may peace be upon him) sent us in a raiding party. We raided Huraqat in the morning. I caught hold of a man and he said:'There is no god but Allah,' but I attacked him with a spear anyway. It once occurred to me that I should ask the Apostle about this. The Messenger said:'Did he profess "There is no god but Allah," and even then you killed him?' I said:'He made a profession out of the fear of the weapon I was threatening him with.' The Prophet said:'Did you tear out his heart in order to find out whether it had professed truly or not?'"
Muslim:C20B1N4597 "The Prophet said at the conquest of Mecca:'There is no migration now, but only Jihad, fighting for the Cause of Islam. When you are asked to set out on a Jihad expedition, you should readily do so.'"

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Allah's Cause have the hope of Allah's mercy."
Qur'an:2:244 "Fight in Allah's Cause, and know that Allah hears and knows all."

Qur'an:2:246 "He said:'Would you refrain from fighting if fighting were prescribed for you?' They said:'How could we refuse to fight in Allah's Cause?'"

Ishaq:280 "The Apostle prepared for war in pursuance of Allah's command to fight his enemies and to fight the infidels who Allah commanded him to fight."

Qur'an:61:2 "O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure."

Bukhari:V4B52N61 "Allah's Apostle! We were absent from the first battle you fought against the pagans. If Allah gives us a chance to do battle, no doubt, He will see how bravely we fight."

Ishaq:398 "Ask them for their help. Thereby make the religion of Islam agreeable to them. And when you are resolved in the matter of religion concerning fighting your enemy you will have the advantage."

Qur'an:3:146 "How many prophets fought in Allah's Cause? With them (fought) myriads of godly men who were slain. They never lost heart if they met with disaster in Allah's Cause, nor did they weaken nor give in. Allah loves those who are firm and steadfast [warriors]."

Ishaq:393 "How many prophets has death in battle befallen and how many multitudes with him? They did not show weakness toward their enemies and were not humiliated when they suffered in the fight for Allah and their religion. That is steadfastness. Allah loves the steadfast."

Qur'an:3:153 "Behold! You ran off precipitately, climbing up the high hill without even casting a side glance at anyone, while the Messenger in your rear is calling you from your rear, urging you to fight. Allah gave you one distress after another by way of requital, to teach you not to grieve for the booty that had escaped you and for (the ill) that had befallen you."

Qur'an:3:154 "Say:'Even if you had remained in your houses, those ordained to be slaughtered would have gone forth to the places where they were to slain."

Ishaq:440 "Helped by the Holy Spirit we smited Muhammad's foes. The Apostle sent a message to them with a sharp cutting sword."

Ishaq:470 "We attacked them fully armed, swords in hand, cutting through heads and skulls."

Qur'an:61:4 "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His Cause."

Qur'an:61:11 "Believers, shall I lead you to a bargain or trade that will save you from a painful torment? That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and that you strive and fight in Allah's Cause with your property and your lives: That will be best for you!" Qur'an 61:12 "He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens under which rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Eden: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. And another (favor) which you love: help from Allah for a speedy victory over your enemies."

Qur'an:8:5 "Your Lord ordered you out of your homes to fight for the true cause, even though some Muslims disliked it, and were averse (to fighting)."

Qur'an:24:53 "They swear their strongest oaths saying that if only you would command them. They would leave their homes (and go forth fighting in Allah's Cause). Say:'Swear not; Obedience is (more) reasonable.'"

Qur'an:4:74 "Let those who fight in Allah's Cause sell this world's life for the hereafter. To him who fights in Allah's Cause, whether he is slain or victorious, We shall give him a reward."

Qur'an:4:75 "What reason have you that you should not fight in Allah's Cause?" [Another translation says:] "What is wrong with you that you do not fight for Allah?"

Qur'an:4:76 "Those who believe fight in the Cause of Allah."

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Qur'an:4:77 "Have you not seen those to whom it was said: Withhold from fighting, perform the prayer and pay the zakat. But when orders for fighting were issued, a party of them feared men as they ought to have feared Allah. They say:'Our Lord, why have You ordained fighting for us, why have You made war compulsory?'"

Qur'an:4:78 "Wherever you are, death will find you, even if you are in towers strong and high! So what is wrong with these people, that they fail to understand these simple words?"

Qur'an:4:84 "Then fight (Muhammad) in Allah's Cause. Incite the believers to fight with you."

Qur'an:4:94 "Believers, when you go abroad to fight wars in Allah's Cause, investigate carefully, and say not to anyone who greets you:'You are not a believer!' Coveting the chance profits of this life (so that you may despoil him). With Allah are plenteous spoils and booty."

Qur'an:4:95 "Not equal are believers who sit home and receive no hurt and those who fight in Allah's Cause with their wealth and lives. Allah has granted a grade higher to those who fight with their possessions and bodies to those who sit home. Those who fight He has distinguished with a special reward."

Qur'an:4:100 "He who leaves his home in Allah's Cause finds abundant resources and many a refuge. Should he die as a refugee for Allah and His Messenger His reward becomes due and sure with Allah. When you travel through the earth there is no blame on you if you curtail your worship for fear unbelievers may attack you. In truth the disbelievers are your enemy."

Qur'an:4:102 "When you (Prophet) lead them in prayer, let some stand with you, taking their arms with them. When they finish their prostrations, let them take positions in the rear. And let others who have not yet prayed come - taking all precaution, and bearing arms. The Infidels wish, if you were negligent of your arms, to assault you in a rush. But there is no blame on you if you put away your arms because of the inconvenience of rain or because you are ill; but take precaution. For the Unbelieving Infidels Allah hath prepared a humiliating punishment."

Qur'an:4:104 "And do not relent in pursuing the enemy."

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Matthew 6:22

Matthew 6:22 is the twenty-second verse of the sixth chapter of the Gospel of Matthew in the New Testament,
There was no need to write that. Even a polemic Christian ignorant fool knows that.

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ana wrote:
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Where does it say Shamma Jesus is the name of the father the son and the Holy Spirit? I don't want you to reply with hatefulness I just want a clean answer
Jesus inherited his Name Jesus from God His father.
God is Tri-une.
There is only one God.
There are three divine Persons in the Tri-unity. Our previous studies have demonstrated this beyond the threshold of proof.

4. Matthew 28:19: Therefore go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit....

Three Persons, one name. Jesus commissioned His disciples to baptize with a view to the unity of the three divine Persons.

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit define who God is.

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It is hard to understand how anyone would interpret that at Isaiah 48 as being the trinity. For one thing, Shamma already admitted that the first one speaking is God. Then he says the prophet Isaiah is impersonating Jesus Christ. I never heard that one before.
Looking at that proof text Shamma has provided, it says:(King James American Version, Isaiah 48:16):
"Come you near to me, hear you this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, has sent me."
The one that the Lord GOD sent was Isaiah, no doubt about it. To repeat, the prophets spoke for God, not as God. They uttered God's prophecies, not their own.
How can the Lord God,'his' Spirit (God's spirit), and Isaiah impersonating Jesus Christ be the trinity, when in fact, God IS supposed to be the trinity?
That's the first time I ever heard that Isaiah was "impersonating" Jesus Christ. In all honesty, maybe Shamma was using a poor choice of words. But I can't understand where he got this interpretation. Every time GOD spoke by means of the prophets, one cannot say it was Jesus Christ speaking. In fact, the scriptures say otherwise. Also, the scriptures say they spoke by means of God's spirit.
If you recall from the beginning I was interested in finding out what Muslims believe, and saw the thread with some supposed Christians trying to bash the Qu'ran where it spoke of the invalidity of the trinity. No matter how I turned the statement in the Qu'ran, I could not find an error regarding the statements about God not being a trinity. I tried.:-)
Hebrews 1:1 says again:

"In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways," (Not through the trinity, but the prophets. It does not say that the trinity God spoke through the trinity Jesus via the prophets.)
The best illustration about this is what Jesus said: how can a house built on sand stand? It cannot. When the winds came, and the waters poured, the house collapsed.

I am still a Christian, though, no matter what Shamma says about me.:-) Peace to you, bmz.
You are a true follower of Jesus, NQ. I am glad that you are not a trinitarian Christian. Anyone, who denounces and rejects Trinity, is a true believer in God Almighty.

There is no other God besides the LORD and it is good to see you declaring that openly.

Salaams
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You are totally wrong.
You blasphemy God with your stupidity.
http://answer-islam.org/honor_of_jesus.html
John 5:23-25
New International Version (NIV)
23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.
24 “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.
25 Very truly I tell you, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live
If you honor Jesus as just a prophet as you are suggesting then you are degrading God down to be just a mere prophet on the order of being the same mere creature as Jesus.
Your argument that Jesus is not equal to God has been debunked in this link.
http://answer-islam.org/honor_of_jesus.html
Nothing but Bullshit.

You liars and fools have degraded God by comparing God with a man, a failure and a flop and whose mission was terminated, because it was not going anywhere.

Looking at God and Jesus, God is the Most High and Jesus is far below. Jesus was 100% inferior to God.
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See you are spiritually blind. and choose a fruit that has no power to forgive your sins.
BJ had NO power to forgive your sins. HE LIED.
You are blind Skeptic.
You hurt people.
You insult people.
You are under the influence of a very dangerous demon who is a "ONE-EYED naked PAGAN satan dangling off a phallus seducing you to CHEW his RAW flesh while you SUCK off his FRESH blood and juices"
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Excerpts from the Gospel of Barnabas, Part-78
Chapter 168 Jesus’ source of knowledge
Then said the disciples: "Truly God speaks in you, for never has man spoken as you speak." Jesus answered: "Believe me when God chose me to send me to the House of Israel, he gave me a book like to a clear mirror; which came down into my heart in such wise that all that I speak comes forth from that book. And when that book shall have finished coming forth from my mouth, I shall be taken up from the world." Peter answered: "O master, is that which you now speak written in that book?" Jesus replied: "All that I say for the knowledge of God and the service of God, for the knowledge of man and for the salvation of mankind all this comes forth from that book, which is my gospel;." Said Peter: "Is there written therein the glory of paradise?"
Chapter 169 On Last prophet
Jesus answered:."Hearken, and I will tell you of what manner is paradise, and how the holy and the faithful shall abide there without end, for this is one of the greatest blessings of paradise seeing that everything, however great, if it have an end, becomes small, yes nought.'Paradise is the home where God stores his delights, which are so great that the ground which is trodden by the feet of the holy and blessed ones is so precious that one drachma of it is more precious than a thousand worlds.
These delights were seen by our, father, David, prophet of God, for God showed them to him, seeing he caused him to behold the glories of paradise: whereupon, when he returned to himself, he closed his eyes with both his hands, and weeping said: "Look not any more upon this world, O my eyes, for all is vain, and there is no good!". Of these delights said Isaiah ;the prophet: "The eyes of man have not seen, his ears have not heard, nor has the human heart conceived, that which God has prepared for them that love him." Know you wherefore they have not seen, heard, conceived such delights? It is because while they live here below they are not worthy to behold
such things. Wherefore, albeit our father David ;truly saw them, I tell you that he saw them not with human eyes, for God took his soul to himself, and thus, united with God, he saw them with light divine. As God lives, in whose presence my soul stands, seeing that the delights of paradise are infinite and man is finite, man cannot contain them; even as a little earthen jar cannot contain the sea.
Chapter 170 Contd.
God says thus to the man who shall faithfully serve him: "I know your works, that you work for me. As I live eternally, your love shall not exceed my bounty. Because you serve me as God your creator, knowing yourself to be my work, and ask nought of me save grace and mercy to serve me faithfully; because you set no end to my service, seeing you desire to serve me eternally: even so will I do, for I will reward you as if you were God, my equal. For not only will I place in your hands the abundance of paradise, but I will give you myself as a gift, so that, even as you are fain to be my servant for ever, even so will I make your wages forever."'
Note: These things are missing from the Gospel-MUQ
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Good post brother. Thank you.
You can see how they corrupt Jesus pbuh's message.
When he says.."God says.. worship me"....
the liars say "he says..worship me"!!!
Salaams

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Is Jesus God because He said Honor him as you Honor the Father?
NO!

That Jesus is God, is Bull Shit!

If one has love for God, one would honour the prophet. Nobody was honouring Jesus as God.

Honouring means respecting the person, obeying him and following him.

Look at the following passage:
" John 5:19-27 New Living Translation (NLT)
19 So Jesus explained,“I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself. He does only what he sees the Father doing. Whatever the Father does, the Son also does. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him everything he is doing. In fact, the Father will show him how to do even greater works than healing this man. Then you will truly be astonished. 21 For just as the Father gives life to those he raises from the dead, so the Son gives life to anyone he wants. 22 In addition, the Father judges no one. Instead, he has given the Son absolute authority to judge, 23 so that everyone will honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Anyone who does not honor the Son is certainly not honoring the Father who sent him."
You can see how absurd that passage is. Jesus is speaking in 3rd person and it is quite obvious that many crooks wrote that. Jesus is not the speaker in above passage.

Compare the above fraudulent passage with the following passage from Jesus:

" 24 “I tell you the truth, those who listen to my message and believe in God who sent me have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their sins, but they have already passed from death into life."

Any idiot can see that Jesus is talking sense here but not in the absurd passage that I quoted above.

And look at another absurd statement and the reason given:

"27 And he has given him authority to judge everyone because he is the Son of Man."

Why was authority given to the son of man, when you foolishly claim he was the Son of God?

Don't tell me that Son of Man was Jesus' patent! This already debunks the claim that he was God.

People believed in Moses and honoured him because they knew he was sent by God. Same goes for Jesus.

Nobody made Moses the Son of God.

Do you see Jesus honouring his mother in the NT?

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BJ had NO power to forgive your sins. HE LIED.
You are blind Skeptic.
You hurt people.
You insult people.
You are under the influence of a very dangerous demon who is a "ONE-EYED naked PAGAN satan dangling off a phallus seducing you to CHEW his RAW flesh while you SUCK off his FRESH blood and juices"
Yes I do insult people Alex.
I insult them for their arrogant and stupidity.
You are insulting your own self, All I am doing is pointing out your stupidity Alex.

When you read the Bible you do not retain what you read.
So you are always searching for answers, and making dumb comments.
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<quoted text>Jesus inherited his Name Jesus from God His father. God is Tri-une.
There is only one God.
There are three divine Persons in the Tri-unity. Our previous studies have demonstrated this beyond the threshold of proof.
. Matthew 28:19: Therefore go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit....
Three Persons, one name. Jesus commissioned His disciples to baptize with a view to the unity of the three divine Persons.
The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit define who God is.
Look at the lies:
1. Jesus inherited his Name Jesus from God His father.(no proof)
2. God is Tri-une.(One head three bodies!!)
3. There are three divine Persons in the Tri-unity. Our previous studies have demonstrated this beyond the threshold of "proof".(BEYOND BELIEF!!!)
4. Matthew 28:19: Therefore go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy
(Matt was almost a wholesale copy of mark including the insertion/interpolation/corrup tion 16:9-20)

TRUTH:
There is only one God.

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NO!
That Jesus is God, is Bull Shit!
If one has love for God, one would honour the prophet. Nobody was honouring Jesus as God.
Honouring means respecting the person, obeying him and following him.
Look at the following passage:
<quoted text>
You can see how absurd that passage is. Jesus is speaking in 3rd person and it is quite obvious that many crooks wrote that. Jesus is not the speaker in above passage.
Compare the above fraudulent passage with the following passage from Jesus:
" 24 “I tell you the truth, those who listen to my message and believe in God who sent me have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their sins, but they have already passed from death into life."
Any idiot can see that Jesus is talking sense here but not in the absurd passage that I quoted above.
And look at another absurd statement and the reason given:
"27 And he has given him authority to judge everyone because he is the Son of Man."
Why was authority given to the son of man, when you foolishly claim he was the Son of God?
Don't tell me that Son of Man was Jesus' patent! This already debunks the claim that he was God.
People believed in Moses and honoured him because they knew he was sent by God. Same goes for Jesus.
Nobody made Moses the Son of God.
Do you see Jesus honouring his mother in the NT?
You reasoning is illogical.
LMAO!
You don't know how dumb you really are.
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<quoted text>Yes I do insult people Alex.
I insult them for their arrogant and stupidity.
You are insulting your own self, All I am doing is pointing out your stupidity Alex.
When you read the Bible you do not retain what you read.
So you are always searching for answers, and making dumb comments.
Perhaps you insult them for their wisdom, humility and brilliance?
I don't just read the bible. I study, interpret, analyse, review, teach, explain, exchange ideas, to involve/employ/apply critique, review and also have contributed to some of the "versions/translations ".
That is precisely why I try to refrain from using "bible talk/jargon".
Best to keep it simple for the benefit of lay persons.
Skeptic you are a clueless person.
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<quoted text>You reasoning is illogical.
LMAO!
You don't know how dumb you really are.
Wow...now that is sheer brilliance, NOT!

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<quoted text>Jesus inherited his Name Jesus from God His father.
God is Tri-une.
There is only one God.
There are three divine Persons in the Tri-unity. Our previous studies have demonstrated this beyond the threshold of proof.
4. Matthew 28:19: Therefore go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit....
Three Persons, one name. Jesus commissioned His disciples to baptize with a view to the unity of the three divine Persons.
The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit define who God is.
One of the problems with your above post is that God's name, written over 7,000 times in the Bible, is not Jesus. The Almighty God has a personal name and is not Jesus. It can be found at Psalm 83:18 in many Bibles. The holy spirit has been given no personal name. In fact, thinking about it, not much is written about personal description or 'who' the holy spirit is. But there is plenty written about the Father (life-giver) and the son.
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Doesn't it seem to you reasonable that if the holy spirit is God, equal to the other two person/gods (the father and the son), one would suffice for the other? No follow up would be necessary, if they are all equal. And besides which, now that you mention it, that would make four gods, wouldn't it? I mean four gods in one, according to the way the trinity is described. God is the big picture (1), the Father (2), the Son (3), and the Holy Spirit (4).
Your comments of a true believer NQ. May God bless you.
Smiles...I have increased the number of "gods" that make this godhead abomination.

1. God= father of son of "GOD"
2. God= father of son of "god the father"
3. God= ghost of father of son of "GOD"
4. God= ghost of father of son of "god the father"
5. God= spirit of father of son of "GOD"

6. God= spirit of father of son of "god the father"
7. God= son of man (son of Adam)
8. God= son of man (son of David)
9. God= son of man (son of Joseph)
10. God= son of "GOD" (who encompasses god the father)
11. God= son of "god the father" (who is part of GOD)
12. God= son of god the Holy Spirit (who is part of GOD)
13. God= son of god the holy ghost (who is part of GOD)
14. God= ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
15. God= ghost of son of man (son of David)
16. God= ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
17. God= ghost of son of "GOD"
18. God= ghost of son of "god the father"
19. God= ghost of son of "god the holy spirit"
20. God= ghost of son of "god the holy ghost"
21. God= spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
22. God= spirit of son of man (son of David)
23. God= spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
24. God= spirit of son of "GOD"
25. God= spirit of son of "god the father"
26. God= spirit of son of "god the holy spirit"
27. God= spirit of son of "god the holy ghost"
28. God= ghost of spirit of father of son of "GOD"
29. God= ghost of spirit of father of son of "god the father"
30. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
31. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of David)
32. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
33. God= ghost of spirit of son of "GOD"
34. God= ghost of spirit of son of "god the father"
35. God= ghost of spirit of son of god the holy spirit
36. God= ghost of spirit of son of god the holy ghost
37. God= spirit of ghost father of son of "GOD"
38. God= spirit of ghost of father of son of "god the father"
39. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
40. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of David)
41. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
42. God= spirit of ghost of son of "GOD"
43. God= spirit of ghost of son of "god the father"
44. God= spirit of ghost of son of god the holy spirit
45. God= spirit of ghost of son of god the holy ghost
46. God= "Risen" Jesus
47. God= "Risen" son of man (son of Adam)
48. God= "Risen" son of man (son of David)
49. God= "Risen" son of man (son of Joseph)
50. God= "Risen" son of "God"
51. God= "Risen" son of "god the father"
52. God= "Risen" son of "god the holy spirit"
53. God= "Risen" son of "god the holy ghost"
54. God= "Lord" of St Paul
55. God= "Christ" of St Paul
56. God= Millions of "Jesus" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
57. God= Millions of "Holy Spirits" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
58. God= Millions of "Holy Ghosts" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
59. God= The Jesus in heaven sitting on his own right hand watching himself VINDICTIVELY making footstool of enemies.

60. God= ALL of the above
61. God= NONE of the above
62. God= Any more to be added to the above

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You are a true follower of Jesus, NQ. I am glad that you are not a trinitarian Christian. Anyone, who denounces and rejects Trinity, is a true believer in God Almighty.
There is no other God besides the LORD and it is good to see you declaring that openly.
Salaams
BMZ
:-) Thank you, BMZ. I think of David, who was a mighty warrior, and who was a forerunner of Jesus Christ. Also, he had many wives and more. So did Solomon, although there was peace during the realm of his kingship until he turned to other gods in adulterated worship.

The whole thing is very interesting, that's all I can say. I have learned a great deal, I also know that many Muslims do not wish to fight, that they, too, are awaiting the day of God and do not take matters in their own hands, yet as has been pointed out, the sins of those doing the finger-pointing are shoveled under the topsoil as much as possible. Yet so many who call themselves Christians are filled with hate, I do not believe they understand the real truth of the Bible and God. Perhaps He will help them, only He knows.

That is why when the day of vengeance comes, governments and other factors (such as misleading teachings) will be held accountable.

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Look at the lies:
1. Jesus inherited his Name Jesus from God His father.(no proof)
2. God is Tri-une.(One head three bodies!!)
3. There are three divine Persons in the Tri-unity. Our previous studies have demonstrated this beyond the threshold of "proof".(BEYOND BELIEF!!!)
4. Matthew 28:19: Therefore go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy
(Matt was almost a wholesale copy of mark including the insertion/interpolation/corrup tion 16:9-20)
TRUTH:
There is only one God.
Your stupidity is proof enough.
The Bible explains it all Alex.
I LMAO at your attempt to express intelligence.
You come across as clown.

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Your comments of a true believer NQ. May God bless you.
Smiles...I have increased the number of "gods" that make this godhead abomination.
LOL, you gave me my first chuckle of the day.

P.S. God has taught me, thank you for your lovely comments, Alex.
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1. God= father of son of "GOD"
2. God= father of son of "god the father"
(As I continued reading your posts, I began to understand more about what you're saying -- bringing a smile to my lips.)
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3. God= ghost of father of son of "GOD"
4. God= ghost of father of son of "god the father"
5. God= spirit of father of son of "GOD"
6. God= spirit of father of son of "god the father"
7. God= son of man (son of Adam)
8. God= son of man (son of David)
9. God= son of man (son of Joseph)
10. God= son of "GOD" (who encompasses god the father)
11. God= son of "god the father" (who is part of GOD)
12. God= son of god the Holy Spirit (who is part of GOD)
13. God= son of god the holy ghost (who is part of GOD)
14. God= ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
15. God= ghost of son of man (son of David)
16. God= ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
17. God= ghost of son of "GOD"
18. God= ghost of son of "god the father"
19. God= ghost of son of "god the holy spirit"
20. God= ghost of son of "god the holy ghost"
21. God= spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
22. God= spirit of son of man (son of David)
23. God= spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
24. God= spirit of son of "GOD"
25. God= spirit of son of "god the father"
26. God= spirit of son of "god the holy spirit"
27. God= spirit of son of "god the holy ghost"
28. God= ghost of spirit of father of son of "GOD"
29. God= ghost of spirit of father of son of "god the father"
30. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
31. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of David)
32. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
33. God= ghost of spirit of son of "GOD"
34. God= ghost of spirit of son of "god the father"
35. God= ghost of spirit of son of god the holy spirit
36. God= ghost of spirit of son of god the holy ghost
37. God= spirit of ghost father of son of "GOD"
38. God= spirit of ghost of father of son of "god the father"
39. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
40. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of David)
41. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
42. God= spirit of ghost of son of "GOD"
43. God= spirit of ghost of son of "god the father"
44. God= spirit of ghost of son of god the holy spirit
45. God= spirit of ghost of son of god the holy ghost
46. God= "Risen" Jesus
47. God= "Risen" son of man (son of Adam)
48. God= "Risen" son of man (son of David)
49. God= "Risen" son of man (son of Joseph)
50. God= "Risen" son of "God"
51. God= "Risen" son of "god the father"
52. God= "Risen" son of "god the holy spirit"
53. God= "Risen" son of "god the holy ghost"
54. God= "Lord" of St Paul
55. God= "Christ" of St Paul
56. God= Millions of "Jesus" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
57. God= Millions of "Holy Spirits" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
58. God= Millions of "Holy Ghosts" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
59. God= The Jesus in heaven sitting on his own right hand watching himself VINDICTIVELY making footstool of enemies.
60. God= ALL of the above
61. God= NONE of the above
62. God= Any more to be added to the above
I see what you're saying. It took me time, but as one tries to understand the mysterious, the above conclusions are what one must arrive at.

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