Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Oh my.

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<quoted text>Jesus taught that God is Tri-une.
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
&#9668; Matthew 28:19 &#9658;
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Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
New American Standard Bible
"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
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Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
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Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
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Therefore, as you go, disciple people in all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit,
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Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:
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Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
Darby Bible Translation
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptising them to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit;
Young's Literal Translation
having gone, then, disciple all the nations,(baptizing them -- to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,
That is a forgery and it self-destructs. The Great Commission in Matthew 28:19 is a Great Fraud!

That silly verse cannot be found in the oldest manuscripts.

That verse is laughable. After hearing that, Peter went and baptized them ONLY in the name of Jesus.

You dare not deny this!
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HUGH:

Jiske sapno me,

(In whose dreams)

jiske sapno me tum roz aate rahe,

(In whose dreams you appear every day)

dil lubhate rahe,

(gladdening his heart)

yeh batha do batha do ki tum wahi toh nahi.

(tell me, tell me, if you're the same person (who appears in my dreams)).

(smiles)

PS: This old song from a Hindi film has such a melodious tune sung in the voice of Muhammad Rafi.
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me is pronounced as mey in Hindi.

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Shamma wrote:
<quoted text> The Trinity-It explains Isaiah 48:16:
"Draw near to me, hear this: from the beginning I have not spoken in secret, from the time it came to be I have been there.” And now the Lord GOD has sent me, and his Spirit".
The Lord God {1} has sent me{2}, and His Spirit {3}
"Father , Son, and Holy Spirit"
The OT verifies that God is Tri-une.
Shamma, it is the prophet Isaiah that is speaking as the one that God sent there to speak to the Israelites. He is the "me" there, not Jesus Christ.

God sent Isaiah to speak to the people and tell them what would happen. At the time the prophecy was spoken, Israel was living in the Promised Land. Babylon was not yet a dominant world power. Even while foretelling (through Isaiah, the one that God sent) the captivity, God encourages the people by means of Isaiah and his holy spirit that he, the LORD, will act in favor of his people to deliver them.

Here is what it says:
(Isaiah 48, English Standard Version, 16-19)

"Draw near to me, hear this:
from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,
from the time it came to be I have been there.”
And now the Lord God has sent me, and his Spirit.

17 Thus says the Lord,
your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel:
“I am the Lord your God,
who teaches you to profit,
who leads you in the way you should go.
18 Oh that you had paid attention to my commandments!
Then your peace would have been like a river,
and your righteousness like the waves of the sea;
19 your offspring would have been like the sand,
and your descendants like its grains;
their name would never be cut off
or destroyed from before me.”

Yes, this was spoken of by Isaiah, the prophet, and he is the one that God empowered by means of his spirit to speak to the nation.
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Shamma, it is the prophet Isaiah that is speaking as the one that God sent there to speak to the Israelites. He is the "me" there, not Jesus Christ.
God sent Isaiah to speak to the people and tell them what would happen. At the time the prophecy was spoken, Israel was living in the Promised Land. Babylon was not yet a dominant world power. Even while foretelling (through Isaiah, the one that God sent) the captivity, God encourages the people by means of Isaiah and his holy spirit that he, the LORD, will act in favor of his people to deliver them.
Here is what it says:
(Isaiah 48, English Standard Version, 16-19)
"Draw near to me, hear this:
from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,
from the time it came to be I have been there.”
And now the Lord God has sent me, and his Spirit.
17 Thus says the Lord,
your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel:
“I am the Lord your God,
who teaches you to profit,
who leads you in the way you should go.
18 Oh that you had paid attention to my commandments!
Then your peace would have been like a river,
and your righteousness like the waves of the sea;
19 your offspring would have been like the sand,
and your descendants like its grains;
their name would never be cut off
or destroyed from before me.”
Yes, this was spoken of by Isaiah, the prophet, and he is the one that God empowered by means of his spirit to speak to the nation.
Thank you, NQ for educating Shamma.

I really don't know what brand of Christianity is he pedalling here?

Everything is studied under the scrutiny of the Scripture of a religion. Here, Shamma studies the Scripture under the light, shade and scrutiny of man-made doctrines.

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How can I call God a Liar? I dare not. It is the Church, who shows that God is a liar, prophets are liars and the fool Church fathers are the Liars.
I am calling the fool, who saw three or a trinity in that verse, a Liar.
I see four in there. It was written by Isaiah about Jacob. So, the Church should accept Isaiah and Jacob as the first two Sons of your God before your God begat the third, I mean Jesus.
I Am not willing to accept silly, idiotic and distorted information.
Now, pick your stones and get ready for this biblical English:
Before Jesus was born, I Am also!
Now you see me, now you don't.
You are a clown.
There is only one way to come to God, and that is thru Jesus Christ, Gods Son.
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JOEL wrote:
HUGH:
Jiske sapno me,
(In whose dreams)
jiske sapno me tum roz aate rahe,
(In whose dreams you appear every day)
dil lubhate rahe,
(gladdening his heart)
yeh batha do batha do ki tum wahi toh nahi.
(tell me, tell me, if you're the same person (who appears in my dreams)).
(smiles)
PS: This old song from a Hindi film has such a melodious tune sung in the voice of Muhammad Rafi.
How sweet!

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NotQuiter wrote:
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Shamma, it is the prophet Isaiah that is speaking as the one that God sent there to speak to the Israelites. He is the "me" there, not Jesus Christ.
God sent Isaiah to speak to the people and tell them what would happen. At the time the prophecy was spoken, Israel was living in the Promised Land. Babylon was not yet a dominant world power. Even while foretelling (through Isaiah, the one that God sent) the captivity, God encourages the people by means of Isaiah and his holy spirit that he, the LORD, will act in favor of his people to deliver them.
Here is what it says:
(Isaiah 48, English Standard Version, 16-19)
"Draw near to me, hear this:
from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,
from the time it came to be I have been there.”
And now the Lord God has sent me, and his Spirit.
17 Thus says the Lord,
your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel:
“I am the Lord your God,
who teaches you to profit,
who leads you in the way you should go.
18 Oh that you had paid attention to my commandments!
Then your peace would have been like a river,
and your righteousness like the waves of the sea;
19 your offspring would have been like the sand,
and your descendants like its grains;
their name would never be cut off
or destroyed from before me.”
Yes, this was spoken of by Isaiah, the prophet, and he is the one that God empowered by means of his spirit to speak to the nation.
In Genesis 48:15,16 we read that when Jacob invoked God's blessing upon Joseph's two sons he prayed, "The God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God who hath fed me all my life long unto this day, the angel who hath redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads...." In this passage three divine personalities are called upon to bless Joseph's sons: the God before whom Abraham and Isaac walked; the God who fed Jacob through his lifetime and the angel who redeemed him from all evil. That each is a divine personality, coequal and coeternal with the others, is clear from the fact that no Hebrew would have placed created beings upon a level with the Eternal God, as is done here.

In Isaiah 48:1-16 we see Isaiah the prophet impersonating the Messiah and speaking for Him. Verse 13 reveals Him as the Creator of the Universe. In vs. 16b He says, "And now the Lord Jehovah hath sent me, and his Spirit." In this impersonation the Messiah is saying that the Lord Jehovah has sent Him and also has sent His Spirit (the Holy Spirit). According to this verse there are three divine personalities.

In Isaiah 63:8-10 we see God the Father mentioned in vs. 8 as the Saviour of Israel; God the Son who is called "the angel of his presence" (vs. 9) and the Holy Spirit (vs. 10).

In the New Testament we find the Lord Jesus also teaching the doctrine of the three divine personalities; of their constituting a unity in the literal sense of the term.

“Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.”(Matthew 28:19,20)

Throw away your JW Bible, it is worthless.

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<quoted text>
How can I call God a Liar? I dare not. It is the Church, who shows that God is a liar, prophets are liars and the fool Church fathers are the Liars.
I am calling the fool, who saw three or a trinity in that verse, a Liar.
I see four in there. It was written by Isaiah about Jacob. So, the Church should accept Isaiah and Jacob as the first two Sons of your God before your God begat the third, I mean Jesus.
I Am not willing to accept silly, idiotic and distorted information.
Now, pick your stones and get ready for this biblical English:
Before Jesus was born, I Am also!
Now you see me, now you don't.
Throw away the Quran, it is worthless.
There is only one way to come to God, and that is thru Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
John 1:12
English Standard Version (ESV)
12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name,[Jesus Christ] he gave the right to become children of God,

John 3:7 &#9658;
New International Version (©2011)
You should not be surprised at my saying,'You must be born again.'
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bmz wrote:
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How sweet!
Yes.

You must listen to the song sung by Muhammad Rafi.

It's so melodious.

It should preferably be heard in the night coz somehow it's a song to be heard when one is relaxed and in a romantic mood.
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Sorry, the singer is Mahendra Kapoor and not Muhammad Rafi.
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Frijoles wrote:
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Not all of us are obsessed with these matters.
HughBe--I understand, dear. Bang little dickie on the wall it should cause it to swell.

Frijoles---Not all of us are obsessed with these matters.

HughBe--- I accept that YOU are not obsessed with your SMALL matter. Some will say that you are deeply CONCERNED about the smallness but not obsessed.
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Frijoles wrote:
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ALl of this name calling has morphed from the original topic - you make an imaginary apparition up and blame others for it.
Frijoles---Where I come from those who rise from the dead are considered ghouls and generally avoided

HughBe--- It means that SATAN has total control and possession over your fellow elements.

Frijoles---Its ok. When I am down I used to have an imaginary friend to blame my troubles on too.
But then I graduated pre-school

HughBe--- But you have REPEATED grade 1 continuously.

Frijoles---Doesnt change the fact you have an imaginary enemy to scapegoat your inadequacies and frustrations on.

HughBe--- Indeed one Focker speaks foolishly about inadequacies and then another Focker copies and talks the same CS.
C= chicken and you know what the S stands for.

Frijoles---ALl of this name calling has morphed from the original topic

HughBe--- Jesus loves YOU Dr. Focker ( Dr. F..ker)
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JOEL wrote:
HUGH:
Jiske sapno me,
(In whose dreams)
jiske sapno me tum roz aate rahe,
(In whose dreams you appear every day)
dil lubhate rahe,
(gladdening his heart)
yeh batha do batha do ki tum wahi toh nahi.
(tell me, tell me, if you're the same person (who appears in my dreams)).
(smiles)
PS: This old song from a Hindi film has such a melodious tune sung in the voice of Muhammad Rafi.
ALWAYS keep in my that I am NOT papa. I feel uncomfortable.
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bmz wrote:
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How sweet!
Too "sweet" for my taste but just what papa/Frijoles loves and Eric as well.
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<quoted text>Throw away the Quran, it is worthless.
There is only one way to come to God, and that is thru Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
John 1:12
English Standard Version (ESV)
12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name,[Jesus Christ] he gave the right to become children of God,
John 3:7 &#9658;
New International Version (©2011)
You should not be surprised at my saying,'You must be born again.'
No!

That there is only one way to come to God, and that is thru Jesus Christ, the Son of God, IS Bull Shit.

One can approach God direct. You don't need Jesus at all.
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<quoted text>In Genesis 48:15,16 we read that when Jacob invoked God's blessing upon Joseph's two sons he prayed, "The God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God who hath fed me all my life long unto this day, the angel who hath redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads...." In this passage three divine personalities are called upon to bless Joseph's sons: the God before whom Abraham and Isaac walked; the God who fed Jacob through his lifetime and the angel who redeemed him from all evil. That each is a divine personality, coequal and coeternal with the others, is clear from the fact that no Hebrew would have placed created beings upon a level with the Eternal God, as is done here.
In Isaiah 48:1-16 we see Isaiah the prophet impersonating the Messiah and speaking for Him. Verse 13 reveals Him as the Creator of the Universe. In vs. 16b He says, "And now the Lord Jehovah hath sent me, and his Spirit." In this impersonation the Messiah is saying that the Lord Jehovah has sent Him and also has sent His Spirit (the Holy Spirit). According to this verse there are three divine personalities.
In Isaiah 63:8-10 we see God the Father mentioned in vs. 8 as the Saviour of Israel; God the Son who is called "the angel of his presence" (vs. 9) and the Holy Spirit (vs. 10).
In the New Testament we find the Lord Jesus also teaching the doctrine of the three divine personalities; of their constituting a unity in the literal sense of the term.
“Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.”(Matthew 28:19,20)
Throw away your JW Bible, it is worthless.
Throw away your Bible, which is full of fraud and forgeries.

“Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.” IS also a Bull Shit.

I have told you that the verse is a fraud! How long must I educate you?
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"If thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light."

Jesus

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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
HughBe--I understand, dear. Bang little dickie on the wall it should cause it to swell.
Frijoles---Not all of us are obsessed with these matters.
HughBe--- I accept that YOU are not obsessed with your SMALL matter. Some will say that you are deeply CONCERNED about the smallness but not obsessed.
You know, most people would get the not so subtle and direct hint quit acting like a pervert.

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