Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 254779 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#168882 Mar 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
The Church fathers and the men, who founded Christianity, DID lie. There is no doubt about it.
All the doctrines and teachings, which came from the Church were lies, as they fail to stand up under the scrutiny of your own New Testament.
By the way, it is a different story that the New Testament also fails to stand up under the scrutiny of your OT, which also does not stand up under the scrutiny of the Jewish Holy Scriptures.
Thus the doctrine of sin, oneness, hypostatic union, incarnation, trinity and whatever the Church says are all bull shit and lies.
That is why the Church and your gospels have no such direct statements from Jesus:
1. I am the Son of God.
2. I am God in flesh or I am God in person.
3. God incarnated me.
4. God created me as sin.
5. I am God.
6. I am the Father.
These are the blatant lies that the Church came up with. It is now too late fro the Church to retract those lies.
Yes, I can. It is true that your Bible does not say why did God create the world and mankind. It has no answer.
However the Qur'aan has the answer: "I created mankind and Jinns for worshipping me!"
Did Jesus say anything like that?
The truth is you are unaware of the teachings of the OT scripture, but the Jews that Jesus talked too were, and they clearly understood what Jesus was telling them.
And the Jews understood Jesus was telling them that He was God, and they threw stones at him and wanted to kill him and they finally had Jesus crucified for His claiming He was God.

Up until the resurrection of Jesus the Apostles where not sure that Jesus was telling them the truth, they believed in him, but it was not til the resurrection was their faith in Jesus confirmed, that Jesus was telling them the truth.

That is why they were willing to die for their belief in Jesus.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#168883 Mar 22, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>The truth is you are unaware of the teachings of the OT scripture, but the Jews that Jesus talked too were, and they clearly understood what Jesus was telling them.

And the Jews understood Jesus was telling them that He was God, and they threw stones at him and wanted to kill him and they finally had Jesus crucified for His claiming He was God.

Up until the resurrection of Jesus the Apostles where not sure that Jesus was telling them the truth, they believed in him, but it was not til the resurrection was their faith in Jesus confirmed, that Jesus was telling them the truth.

That is why they were willing to die for their belief in Jesus.
Off-Topic and trying again to wriggle out. My questions had nothing to do with Jews. Read again!

" The Church fathers and the men, who founded Christianity, DID lie. There is no doubt about it.

All the doctrines and teachings, which came from the Church were lies, as they fail to stand up under the scrutiny of your own New Testament.

By the way, it is a different story that the New Testament also fails to stand up under the scrutiny of your OT, which also does not stand up under the scrutiny of the Jewish Holy Scriptures.

Thus the doctrine of sin, oneness, hypostatic union, incarnation, trinity and whatever the Church says are all bull shit and lies.

That is why the Church and your gospels have no such direct statements from Jesus:

1. I am the Son of God.

2. I am God in flesh or I am God in person.

3. God incarnated me.

4. God created me as sin.

5. I am God.

6. I am the Father.

These are the blatant lies that the Church came up with. It is now too late fro the Church to retract those lies.

Now, tell me where can I find those SIX LIES mentioned in in the gospels?

It is very simple. If I say that God said in Qur'aan that Muhammad was the messenger of God, I must show that to any one, who asks me.

Likewise, you are to tell me where can I find the above-mentioned lies in the gospels?

What would be your next lie?

Since: Apr 11

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#168884 Mar 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, you are both EQUALLY idiotic and quite frankly, deserve each other.
No way.
HughBe has not earned my respect that I should respect him.
He is a waffler.
He picks and chooses his own moral values according to his own
values.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#168885 Mar 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
"You accept lirs ac truth."
???
When one lies, one fumbles and makes more mistakes. That is what exactly happened with the Church fathers. They lied more to cover the lies.

The Church fathers didn't lie.
They had no reason to lie.

The question is "What reason would God have to create the world and mankind"?

God does not need the world and mankind.
So why did God create the world and mankind?

You claim the Quran is Gods word, so the answer should be in the Quran.
Can from the Quran you answer that Question?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#168886 Mar 22, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
That morons idiotic questions and your idiotic questions have been answered a thousand times.

Whenever the obvious truth is shown to you lying muztard rats, you say it is "forged".
LOL.

You muztards should be comedians.
Those questions have never been answered. Just watch Shamma doing the tap dancing.

No, we can never be comedians. The title Comedian goes to the Christian God.

Here is something great for you:

"The Christian God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
doctor

Chandigarh, India

#168887 Mar 22, 2013
allah is son of terrorist

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#168888 Mar 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Off-Topic and trying again to wriggle out. My questions had nothing to do with Jews. Read again!
" The Church fathers and the men, who founded Christianity, DID lie. There is no doubt about it.
All the doctrines and teachings, which came from the Church were lies, as they fail to stand up under the scrutiny of your own New Testament.
By the way, it is a different story that the New Testament also fails to stand up under the scrutiny of your OT, which also does not stand up under the scrutiny of the Jewish Holy Scriptures.
Thus the doctrine of sin, oneness, hypostatic union, incarnation, trinity and whatever the Church says are all bull shit and lies.
That is why the Church and your gospels have no such direct statements from Jesus:
1. I am the Son of God.
2. I am God in flesh or I am God in person.
3. God incarnated me.
4. God created me as sin.
5. I am God.
6. I am the Father.
These are the blatant lies that the Church came up with. It is now too late fro the Church to retract those lies.
Now, tell me where can I find those SIX LIES mentioned in in the gospels?
It is very simple. If I say that God said in Qur'aan that Muhammad was the messenger of God, I must show that to any one, who asks me.
Likewise, you are to tell me where can I find the above-mentioned lies in the gospels?
What would be your next lie?
You are ignorant!
Your questions are related to my answer.
Your questions asked for where and when Jesus said He was God and
I showed you where He said He was God according to the teachings of the Bible.
And you are ignorant of both the OT and NT Bible teachings.

You are an outsider looking in with out knowledge of Gods plan prophesied by the prophets in God Bible.

You want the outcome according to your own private interpretation of Gods word other then the one God brought forward through the prophets..

And you are pissed because your out come is different than that of Gods.

And you are too ignorant to understand why that is.
So you go through life calling those that understand Gods word a liar.



bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#168889 Mar 22, 2013
@ Shamma

I know that you are not a cognizant Christian. Let me ask you this simple question:

Where can we find Jesus saying the following in the gospels?

"I am God in flesh"

"I am God!"

This should be easier on you.

We know that you will neither answer nor will be able to answer because those are established lies.

So, we will provide the answers:

Jesus NEVER, NEVER said:

1. that he was the son of God.

2. that he was God in the flesh or God in person or God Incarnate.

3. that he was the Father.

4. that he was God.

5. that he was made sin

6. that God was a trinity.

So, where did the Founding Liars of the Church got the lies from?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#168890 Mar 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Even the Pope and the Cardinals would not be able to give any proof and direct answers, bro.
So, please do not expect Shamma to be forthcoming. His job is to defend the lies from the Church.
No wonder the chap resigned and plans to stay inside Vatican to avoid arrest for his naughty behavious in the 1930's & 1940's.

The RCC is in tatters covering up money laundering to redlight pedo business.

Our own CoE wishes to look into getting more punters in...

********If they wish to UPDATE their "church" to accommodate the modern world then they ADMIT that their mangod is OUT of DATE!!!!******
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#168891 Mar 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Those questions have never been answered. Just watch Shamma doing the tap dancing.
No, we can never be comedians. The title Comedian goes to the Christian God.
Here is something great for you:
"The Christian God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
Nice one, bro!

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#168892 Mar 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Those questions have never been answered. Just watch Shamma doing the tap dancing.
No, we can never be comedians. The title Comedian goes to the Christian God.
Here is something great for you:
"The Christian God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
The laugh is at you dummy for being to ignorant to understand Gods word in the Holy Bible.

You call those that understand Gods word in the Bible A liar, and John and I are laughing at you for being an ignorant fool.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#168893 Mar 22, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
That morons idiotic questions and your idiotic questions have been answered a thousand times.
Whenever the obvious truth is shown to you lying muztard rats, you say it is "forged".
LOL.
You muztards should be comedians.
Dear brainless person...

There is no such thing as an "idiotic question"....but there are plenty of "idiotic answerS"!!!

Chew on that....and then PLEASE give us a DIRECT and SIMPLE response...

Please produce PROOF from Jesus making a DIRECT claim...
"I am Jesus. I am your God who came to earth in human form as my own son to die for the sins of gentiles on a roman cross so that through belief in my unconditional/loving/willing sacrifice you can have eternal life. Worship me.(Bonus points: Worship and kiss the phallic cross and get your pope to kiss it and carry it with him)"

Thank you...
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#168894 Mar 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
@ Shamma
I know that you are not a cognizant Christian. Let me ask you this simple question:
Where can we find Jesus saying the following in the gospels?
"I am God in flesh"
"I am God!"
This should be easier on you.
We know that you will neither answer nor will be able to answer because those are established lies.
So, we will provide the answers:
Jesus NEVER, NEVER said:
1. that he was the son of God.
2. that he was God in the flesh or God in person or God Incarnate.
3. that he was the Father.
4. that he was God.
5. that he was made sin
6. that God was a trinity.
So, where did the Founding Liars of the Church got the lies from?
***Surely this is very embarrassing for the poor blighters.

*** To be "Christians" they HAVE to IGNORE Jesus the man of God, completely and look to a bunch of pedos to dish out a dodgy set of "doctrines" alluding to a non existent "divine" mangod!

*** A very sad state of affairs!

*** No proof of divinity...no proof of "rising" in Mark the oldest "known" Gospel that ends in 16:8....

*** Their misplaced faith is evaporating like that non existent "holy" spirit in a bottle!!!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#168895 Mar 22, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>The laugh is at you dummy for being to ignorant to understand Gods word in the Holy Bible.
You call those that understand Gods word in the Bible A liar, and John and I are laughing at you for being an ignorant fool.
Do I hear "tap...tap...tap...tap... taptap...tap..."" from our resident half of "Fred and Ginger"??
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#168896 Mar 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>

No.
But, Jibreel can see Allah sitting on his plump ass on his arsh, throne, while madman Muhammad failed to see Allah. So, this would make Jibreel superior to Muhammad. Besides, Jibreel conveyed the Quranic messages to Muhammad.
John

Australia

#168897 Mar 22, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear brainless person...
There is no such thing as an "idiotic question"....but there are plenty of "idiotic answerS"!!!
Chew on that....and then PLEASE give us a DIRECT and SIMPLE response...
Please produce PROOF from Jesus making a DIRECT claim...
"I am Jesus. I am your God who came to earth in human form as my own son to die for the sins of gentiles on a roman cross so that through belief in my unconditional/loving/willing sacrifice you can have eternal life. Worship me.(Bonus points: Worship and kiss the phallic cross and get your pope to kiss it and carry it with him)"

Thank you...
I can't be bothered posting the dozens of biblical passages just to have you and that other muztard fuckwit bmz gibber that they are "forged".
Islam is sick and evil and produces fools like you.
Go and blow something up or stone your wife.
LOL.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#168898 Mar 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
@ Shamma
I know that you are not a cognizant Christian. Let me ask you this simple question:
Where can we find Jesus saying the following in the gospels?
"I am God in flesh"
"I am God!"
This should be easier on you.
We know that you will neither answer nor will be able to answer because those are established lies.
So, we will provide the answers:
Jesus NEVER, NEVER said:
1. that he was the son of God.
2. that he was God in the flesh or God in person or God Incarnate.
3. that he was the Father.
4. that he was God.
5. that he was made sin
6. that God was a trinity.
So, where did the Founding Liars of the Church got the lies from?
I am laughing at you for being an ignorant fool.
Jesus openly professed it in the NT Bible and you are blind deaf and dumb.
You are so boring its pathetic.
I explained it to you in my other post that you ignorant fool called off topic.
Ha, ha, ha, you are blind deaf and dumb.

The Jews understood that Jesus was telling them that He was God, and the Jews didn't believe Jesus and threw stones at Jesus and wanted to kill Jesus for what he told them.

And you ignorant fool keep asking where Jesus said those things, when the Jews knew what Jesus was telling them that Jesus said He was God.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#168899 Mar 22, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>

I have always been a great believer in synthesis among variety.
By synthesis I don't mean indiscriminately unifying all aspectcs good and vulgar into a whole.

By synthesis I mean the uplifting and universal values ought to be chosen and adjusted in such a way that they form a harmonious picture with each aspect complementing and fulfilling some other, while the jarring, vulgar and discordant ideas like for instance creation from nothing should be left aside.

Now, moron, did you get it?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#168900 Mar 22, 2013
aspects, not aspectcs.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#168901 Mar 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
@ Shamma
I know that you are not a cognizant Christian. Let me ask you this simple question:
Where can we find Jesus saying the following in the gospels?
"I am God in flesh"
"I am God!"
This should be easier on you.
We know that you will neither answer nor will be able to answer because those are established lies.
So, we will provide the answers:
Jesus NEVER, NEVER said:
1. that he was the son of God.
2. that he was God in the flesh or God in person or God Incarnate.
3. that he was the Father.
4. that he was God.
5. that he was made sin
6. that God was a trinity.
So, where did the Founding Liars of the Church got the lies from?
Brilliant questions to the sound of skeptic "tap dancing"!

Let's merge our Q's..........

Show us DIRECT quotes from JESUS HIMSELF in your NT, saying, I am Jesus and:

1. "I am God in flesh"
2. "I am God!"
3. "I am THE son of God".
4. "I am God in person"
5. "I am God Incarnate"
6. "I am THE Father".
7. "I am made of sin"
8. "God is a trinity"
9. "I am your God who came to earth in human form as my own son to die for the sins of gentiles on a roman cross"
10. "Through belief in my unconditional/loving/willing sacrifice as your God in human form as my own son, you can have eternal life".
11. "Therefore, Worship me and the cross".

Bonus point...
12. "Worship and kiss the phallic cross and get your pope to kiss it, carry it with him and raise it like Moses' serpent"

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