Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 202,224

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#166906 Mar 11, 2013
bmz wrote:
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In my humble view, the Jews did something great for God, which even Jesus did not do or could not foresee or could not think of.
It is also possible that Jesus led the crook Paul away from the holy land and diverted him to pagans' lands, thus saving his own religion and the religion of his Israelite brothers.
They dispatched Paul to Damascus and saved their religion, which was also the religion that Jesus followed faithfully. The disposal of Paul, saved Judaism. And for doing that, God must be happy.
God has made that small minority so strong that all of you cannot move any of your muscles against them.
Before every US Presidential election, candidates must go and address the Jews first for approval.
See how powerful God has made them over you? God has ensured that you repeat your allegiance every year to them. From your own mouths, come the words, "Israel is our best friend" and that is how God has made sure that you Christians can never trouble the Jews again at all.
rabbee: mythological conjecture, is never humble. and 'jews' are so strong, that not even 2billion muslems. can drive 7 million of them, out of Ysrael. as only a fool would think, they can drive the alleged as jews out of Ysrael. when G-D says they are there to stay, till the end of this same again story.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#166907 Mar 11, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
For the first 325 plus years, the Church did not have a single copy of any gospel. Gospels were picked up only after the Church was founded.
DO YOU SEE ANYONE MENTIONING ANY GOSPEL OR ANY WRITER AT ALL AT THE FIRST COUNCIL OF NICAEA? NADA!
DO YOU SEE ANYONE MENTIONING ANY GOSPEL OR ANY WRITER AT ALL AT THE SECOND COUNCIL OF NICAEA? NADA!
Duh, the Gospel is not some text but the preached Word of God. Preserving the writen Gospels was just an after thought and not a necessity. Even without the Holy Bible God's Word would have went on. Did Jesus write anything down? No! Yet His Word went on.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#166908 Mar 11, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>

That is the final word of God, the second coming of Jesus.
There won't be a Messiah nor the Second Coming of Jesus.

Those are scriptural delusions.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#166909 Mar 11, 2013
WARNING:

If a scripture begins with the words, "God says....," know for certain that it's a demonic being claiming to be God.

God is NOT the Absolute.

G-d or God is simply a minor being, a formation, of the cosmic manifestation, while the Absolute is the ultimate source of God and the rest of the cosmic manifestation.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#166910 Mar 11, 2013
A scripture is judged by the real knowledge about the universe and being and the way to attain to perfection and not on superficials like language and silly words like, "God says...."
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#166911 Mar 11, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Rabbee
But G-d did not say to his partner: "Let us make a Son in our own image".
And G-d also never said to his partner: "Let me beget a Son from you."
rabbee: liar! since G-D did say, "let US". since G-D is, BOTH HOO VHEE. and so the reason THEY gave birth, to THE-OUR BABY is quite clear here in ThisStory of ThePhysical Creation again. and it is not G-D WHO fails, here in TheGiving of TheLiving Torah. it is all of you, who are failing to be here in IT again.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#166912 Mar 11, 2013
POSSESSED SAGES CLAIM GOD SPOKE TO THEM.....

1) Possessed sages during trance claim that some being that calling itself God spoke to them.

2) There's no way of verifying the identity of the being who spoke to the sage as a "voice" during trance state.

3) Minor beings always possess sages with limited capacity and reveal nonsense to them.

4) If the being calling itself God is a vile entity then be sure that the info given out by the being will be a command to the possessed sage to indulge in genocides against those people who worship other beings who're its rivals and such a being usually declares itself a "jealous god".

5) Other typical commands of the vile being calling itself "God" will invariably revolve around human and animal sacrifices, slavery, draconian punishments like stoning to death, incest, fanaticism, infanticide and other evils.

Since: May 12

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#166913 Mar 11, 2013
JOEL wrote:
POSSESSED SAGES CLAIM GOD SPOKE TO THEM.....
1) Possessed sages during trance claim that some being that calling itself God spoke to them.
If we take into consideration the Tanakh when god spoke to these prophets I don't see they were in trance.
JOEL wrote:
2) There's no way of verifying the identity of the being who spoke to the sage as a "voice" during trance state.
There is no way of verifying the identity of these beings, yours included.
JOEL wrote:
3) Minor beings always possess sages with limited capacity and reveal nonsense to them.
Really with all the gods human beings have worshiped since the beginning, we should be invaded by these beings and their sages.
JOEL wrote:
4) If the being calling itself God is a vile entity then be sure that the info given out by the being will be a command to the possessed sage to indulge in genocides against those people who worship other beings who're its rivals and such a being usually declares itself a "jealous god".
But are you not able to see that the commands of god(s), its/their method of punishments ect are always in tune with the mindset of the people of that age? That's enough to prove their god were but human beings making things up in order to control the mass.
JOEL wrote:
5) Other typical commands of the vile being calling itself "God" will invariably revolve around human and animal sacrifices, slavery, draconian punishments like stoning to death, incest, fanaticism, infanticide and other evils.
See point 4
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#166915 Mar 11, 2013
RELIGION & RELEVANCE:

1) Rituals, injunctions, punishments, morals and aims do not remain wholly static and are determined by the degree of the evolution of consciousness of the earth nature which then either modifies or makes obsolete the old teachings and the old yogas that were based on a limited degree of evolution as suited to those ages.

2) So, if believers are under the impression that the words of the being - their God - in touch with a past prophet are still relevant in the present then they're a deluded lot.

3) The earth nature has progressed much in terms of the degree of expressed consciousness since those days of the distant past and the newer and the higher ranges of consciousness that have emerged over time in the earth nature have thrown up deeper processes and profounder knowledge systems.

4) As such the being responsible for conveying a certain amount of information to a past prophet now has to express the information or knowledge proper to the current degree of consciousness that is manifested in the earth nature, while retaining certain relevant teachings and practices of the past.

5) This adaptation happens a lot over the ages that even till now there are ace occultists who are in touch with the beings of the ancient cults though in most cases they go underground and control people and events to the extent they are capable of doing so from this poise.

And more...
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#166916 Mar 11, 2013
CHASTITY & MARRIAGE ARE FOR WEAK PEOPLE:

1) The ordinary man should stick to one sexual partner till the end since his nervous system being weak and his force fields feeble and not well-developed would not be capable of handling the strain of entanglement with the force fields of multiple partners that would as a result damage his mental, emotional and physical health and easily draw him into harmful psychological obssessions.

2) On the other hand, if a man has a well-developed nervous system and a strong and plastic force field that does not crumble under the pressure caused by the entanglements of the force fields on account of his various physical relationships, then, having multiple affairs does not adversely affect him. Usually, such resilient types are strong-willed people or mystics.

3) Marriage is simply a device to protect the nervous system and force fields of people from being entangled with the force fields of multiple sexual partners that could, due to the multiple entanglements with the force fields of numerous sexual partners, damage their nerves and mental, emotional and physical health and as such the institution of marriage acts as a safeguard that protects the mental, emotional and physical health of people with weak nervous systems and feeble force fields.

4) From a yogic perspective, abstinence is recommended to protect the seeker from destructive obsessions, attacks from the hostile vital forces and habitual waste of energy. Only advanced yogis can afford to indulge in sex with one or many partners. Example, Krishna. These advanced yogis are above the sex urge and indulge in it from a detached state and usually undertake it only if they wish to unite fully with the partner on the subtle as well as on the gross physical levels.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#166917 Mar 11, 2013
ENERGY IS ONE STREAM, CONSCIOUSNESS HAS GRADATIONS:

1) There is nothing like gross or subtle energy.

2) Energy is one stream, while consciousness has different degrees or gradations with each gradation of consciousness modifying the energy field to express the laws and phenomena appropriate to its status in the hierarchy of consciousness.

3) The subtler the degree of consciousness, the more closely it is unified with the energy field that it permates and as such the better it can manipulate or organize the energy content to express a higher order and concomitant paranormal phenomena.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#166918 Mar 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, you dont like the outcome so you attack the methods.
There is a science behind statistical sampling.
Of course that would not apply to you.
Frijoles---Poll: Support for gay marriage up among Catholics
54 percent of Catholic voters say they support gay marriage

HughBe---what is the population size for Catholics?

What was the sample size?

Was it 100?

Frijoles---you dont like the outcome so you attack the methods.

HughBe--- No dear, I KNOW that in sampling one MUST get the appropriate sample size to SPEAK for the ENTIRE population. In essence you talk too much CS.

Now there are over 77 MILLION Catholics in the US and almost
1.2 BILLION in the world.

Tell me the SAMPLE SIZE that was used. Tell me how many countries were involved.

"With more than 77.7 million registered members, it is the largest single religious denomination in the United States"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_...

"the number of Roman Catholics in the world was about 1,196 billion at the end of 2010"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_...

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#166919 Mar 11, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Frijoles---Poll: Support for gay marriage up among Catholics
54 percent of Catholic voters say they support gay marriage
HughBe---what is the population size for Catholics?
What was the sample size?
Was it 100?
Frijoles---you dont like the outcome so you attack the methods.
HughBe--- No dear, I KNOW that in sampling one MUST get the appropriate sample size to SPEAK for the ENTIRE population. In essence you talk too much CS.
Now there are over 77 MILLION Catholics in the US and almost
1.2 BILLION in the world.
Tell me the SAMPLE SIZE that was used. Tell me how many countries were involved.
"With more than 77.7 million registered members, it is the largest single religious denomination in the United States"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_...
"the number of Roman Catholics in the world was about 1,196 billion at the end of 2010"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_...
Sorry life is too short these days to argue with the illogical

Google statistical sampling sometime

Or go back to school and take Stats 101
Eric

Lombard, IL

#166920 Mar 11, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>That is the final word of God, the second coming of Jesus.
No you said the New Testament was the final word of G-d to man. Therefore, are you now admitting that you were mistaken.
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>The NT brings the final Word of G-d to man.
The Tanakh begins and ends with the NT.
G-ds final words to man.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/judaism/T...
Eric

Lombard, IL

#166921 Mar 11, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Frijoles---Poll: Support for gay marriage up among Catholics
54 percent of Catholic voters say they support gay marriage
HughBe---what is the population size for Catholics?
What was the sample size?
Was it 100?
Frijoles---you dont like the outcome so you attack the methods.
HughBe--- No dear, I KNOW that in sampling one MUST get the appropriate sample size to SPEAK for the ENTIRE population. In essence you talk too much CS.
Now there are over 77 MILLION Catholics in the US and almost
1.2 BILLION in the world.
Tell me the SAMPLE SIZE that was used. Tell me how many countries were involved.
"With more than 77.7 million registered members, it is the largest single religious denomination in the United States"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_...
"the number of Roman Catholics in the world was about 1,196 billion at the end of 2010"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_...
You do realize that a statistically significant sample size for 77.7 million with 99% confidence level is only 1,040 people.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#166922 Mar 11, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you seriously believe in the Revelation crap and hocus pocus?
I believe when God is ready all prophecy of Gods Holy Bible will be fulfilled.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#166923 Mar 11, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
You do realize that a statistically significant sample size for 77.7 million with 99% confidence level is only 1,040 people.
It doesnt matter. We have traveled this road before, hence my blow off. Hugh doesnt recognize the discipline of statistics and the methodology that is employed, since the results conflict with his predetermined mindset.

They could of sampled 20,000 or even 200,000 people and Hugh would still raise an objection.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#166924 Mar 11, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
You do realize that a statistically significant sample size for 77.7 million with 99% confidence level is only 1,040 people.
On a similar vein, I have a similar argument with a automatic weaponry activist on another thread who is unhappy with a local poll indicating that the majority of people want gun control. The pollster is Quinnipiac University, who is considered a top-top tier polling outfit during the political seasons. The enthusiast is waging a paradigm attack since the results cause cognitive dissonance - just like Hughbe.

I told him he was probably convinced that Romney was going to win too....
Eric

Lombard, IL

#166925 Mar 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
It doesnt matter. We have traveled this road before, hence my blow off. Hugh doesnt recognize the discipline of statistics and the methodology that is employed, since the results conflict with his predetermined mindset.
They could of sampled 20,000 or even 200,000 people and Hugh would still raise an objection.
I know. I just wanted to once again show him how small the sample need be to be statistically significant.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#166926 Mar 11, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
I know. I just wanted to once again show him how small the sample need be to be statistically significant.
I know. So much of what we do here is grandstanding for everyone else.

Thanks for the research. I have a MA in Sociology (lots of stats) but I was too lazy to look it up.

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