Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 202,115

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#166702 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Yes, that is correct. Early Christianity was not really Christian in any way.
Christianity started 300-400 years after Jesus was gone.
Before that there was no Christianity at all. The disciples followed nothing of Christianity, followed no church and prayed only to the LORD at the Temple.
They did not baptize anyone with the trinitarian formula aka the Great Commission. Peter and company baptized their colleagues under Jesus' name, so that they could be called followers of Jesus. That is all that baptizing in his name meant.
Which ever formula they may have used it was in Jesus' Name and not mohammad's name or allah's name. Only in Jesus is there salvation. There is no other name under heaven by which one may be saved. Turn to Jesus with all your hearts and be baptized by the authority of Jesus' Name and in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit! Christians do all things in the Name of Jesus.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#166703 Mar 10, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
The moron may agree with this:
Technically speaking Allah/God/Yhvh cannot be the alter ego of Moses by definition, but it's clear from the Torah that behind God there is Moses. This is evident by the fact that God did whatever thing Moses wished to.
LOL....
Moses did what God spoke to him, allah did whatever was best for mohammad. allah was mohammad's alter ego.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166704 Mar 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Reality is not on your side. Just look at any islamic country and see you are self deluded.
That has nothing to do with religion.

The credit to success of some European nations or the West does not go to Christianity, the enemy of knowledge and development of mankind. The credit goes to brilliant men, who stood up against the monstrosity.

Look at the condition of other Christian countries in the European backyard, Africa and South America! They are mostly backward, poor and life is not so pleasant. Do you think it is because the Holy Spirit does not know their coordinates?

Christianity has always been a bane of humanity.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#166705 Mar 10, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
The moron may agree with this:
Technically speaking Allah/God/Yhvh cannot be the alter ego of Moses by definition, but it's clear from the Torah that behind God there is Moses. This is evident by the fact that God did whatever thing Moses wished to.
LOL....
How do immans come up with a fatwah? A bunch of them sit around guessing what would mohammad do and then do as mohammad would do. So muslims follow a man, while when Christians say do what Jesus would do they are following God.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#166706 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
That has nothing to do with religion.
The credit to success of some European nations or the West does not go to Christianity, the enemy of knowledge and development of mankind. The credit goes to brilliant men, who stood up against the monstrosity.
Look at the condition of other Christian countries in the European backyard, Africa and South America! They are mostly backward, poor and life is not so pleasant. Do you think it is because the Holy Spirit does not know their coordinates?
Christianity has always been a bane of humanity.
You too are self deluded. What person in their right mind would want to live in an islamic nation? The muslims themselves are fleeing them only to contaminated their host country with the fruits of ignorance and hate.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166707 Mar 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Which ever formula they may have used it was in Jesus' Name and not mohammad's name or allah's name. Only in Jesus is there salvation. There is no other name under heaven by which one may be saved. Turn to Jesus with all your hearts and be baptized by the authority of Jesus' Name and in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit! Christians do all things in the Name of Jesus.
To say that there is no other name, is rubbish and absurd! you just denied your Father, who is far greater than Jesus.

There is another name far, far bigger than that of puny Jesus. That is the LORD Almighty God Allah.

I have already simplified and made baptism easy to understand for all dummies, when I wrote:

"Peter and company baptized their colleagues under Jesus' name, so that they could be called followers of Jesus. That is all that baptizing in his name meant. "
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#166708 Mar 10, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
There is evidence that Greek was the common vernacular of the time of many Palestinians. But the point is that Jesus didnt bother with them, he was too busy with his disciples, who were Jews who spoke Hebrew and Aramaic.
yes, absolutely.
If only the likes of Paul WV understood the true nature of Jesus' religion and culture, they would be less likely to persecute the Jews and Muslims.

They have not only taken the poor man out of his habitat, but have moulded him to suit their own "pagan" needs, while claiming that your scriptures give them the authority to do this!

A case of literally getting away with "murder".
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#166709 Mar 10, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Well said!
I have given him a get out clause that is as absurd as his claim...He can switch to English and claim that Jesus spoke English!
rabbee: well They most certainly do speak and write in english, in this second coming of Benee Adam. because this whole rebellious world, has again all failed to teach their children TheTorah first. as you have all sold your souls, for your not here in TheLivingTorah vanity.

don't even tell me, that TheG-D WHO has given ThisStory of ThePhysical Creation, for thousands and thousands of third or fourth times. is not again giving it now, or cannot ever give it all again. when not even one of you, have any inkling of TheFull Power of G-D. as you all ignorantly act with the beast, that this is not the first time that G-D has never given TheTorah Happening to us all and your very own grandmother of all.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166710 Mar 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
How do immans come up with a fatwah? A bunch of them sit around guessing what would mohammad do and then do as mohammad would do. So muslims follow a man, while when Christians say do what Jesus would do they are following God.
Fatwah is exactly similar to your Sacred Traditions, which are opinions of men. Fatwah is just an opinion, not a Scripture.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#166711 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
No!
And that is another lie.
There are only a few Aramaic words in the NT and they are:
"Eli, Eli, Lama sabachthani?"
"Thalita quom"
"Raca"
"Ephatha", etc.
These words could not be translated into Greek, so they were left in. Equivalents were given later.
You have no original of anything.
Bull-crap.
You don't want to know the truth because ot destroy Muhammad and his bull-crap Quran.

The Antioch Bible Set

A fresh new idiomatic English translation based on the
Aramaic text of the Syriac Peshitta
in ca. 30 volumes

“No branch of the Early Church has done more for the translation of the Bible into their vernacular than the Syriac-speaking. In our European libraries we have Syriac Bible manuscripts from Lebanon, Egypt, Sinai, Mesopotamia, Armenia, India, even from China.”

You are a Muhammadan.
You refuse to accept the truth of God.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166712 Mar 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Your post is irrelevant.
Whether the Jews accept Jesus or not as there Messiah does change the fact that Jesus is the Son of God.
No, he is not. There is no proof and there is direct statement from the horse's mouth.

The day you discover "Jesus said,'I am the Son of God' " in any gospel, let me know, so that I can quickly dismiss that lie.

You have nothing from Jesus to support the absurd claims, claimed by Christianity on his behalf.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166713 Mar 10, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
where...where?!!!! when...when??!!!
Has Jesus signed these off personally??!!!
If he can't sign he can append a "cross" to indicate his approval!!
lol..!!!
"cross"...oh never mind... great jokes are wasted on the fundies..
He might have left them with Hades.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#166714 Mar 10, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text> Did you notice a double barrel or a hyphenated expression?
Go away fool.
Double barrel or hyphenated expression? In other words you don't even know what you wrote before. LOL

For your information you only used the hyphen, so what? You cannot think hyphen can, in some way, justify your errant and invented grammar rules.

Let's not forget also a very important thing, you are the genius who made up a new terminology. The term aristo-visconte is totally wrong because the word visconte is yet an aristocratic title and doesn't need to be accompanied by the word aristo.

You called me fool and arrogant who thinks to know all, but the truth is you are calling names, because you don't know anymore how get out by your embarassing mistakes, thus, instead to shut your mouth or admit you wrote absurdity, you are showing yourself for what you really are, an ignorant fool incapable to admit its own mistakes and attack to not be attacked.

Who knows with what kind of term or concept you will come out next time... aristo-re? LOL

You are not a match for me by any chance, so stick with people of your same low level.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#166715 Mar 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>There are original Scripture written in Aramaic.
You are just to Muhammadan to search for the facts.
Lets just suppose for the sake of argument that this was the case.

Where is this original scripture?

Why dont you learn Aramaic so that you can read it yourself?

And why did Mel Gibson have to rely on a JEWISH speaker rather than a Christian speaker of the language to assist him to make his movie?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#166716 Mar 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Bull-crap.
You don't want to know the truth because ot destroy Muhammad and his bull-crap Quran.
The Antioch Bible Set
A fresh new idiomatic English translation based on the
Aramaic text of the Syriac Peshitta
in ca. 30 volumes
“No branch of the Early Church has done more for the translation of the Bible into their vernacular than the Syriac-speaking. In our European libraries we have Syriac Bible manuscripts from Lebanon, Egypt, Sinai, Mesopotamia, Armenia, India, even from China.”
You are a Muhammadan.
You refuse to accept the truth of God.
that version was STILL a translation INTO Syriac

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshitta

But what Theodore of Mopsuestia says of the Old Testament is true of both: "These Scriptures were translated into the tongue of the Syriacs by someone indeed at some time, but who on earth this was has not been made known down to our day".[4]

F. Crawford Burkitt concluded that the translation of the Old Testament was probably the work of Jews, of whom there was a colony in Edessa about the commencement of the Christian era.[5]

The older view was that the translators were Christians, and that the work was done late in the 1st century or early in the 2nd. The Old Testament known to the early Syrian church was substantially that of the Palestinian Jews. It contained the same number of books but it arranged them in a different order. First there was the Pentateuch, then Job, Joshua, Judges, 1 and 2 Samuel, 1 and 2 Kings, 1 and 2 Chronicles, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Ruth, Canticles, Esther, Ezra, Nehemiah, Isaiah followed by the Twelve Minor Prophets, Jeremiah and Lamentations, Ezekiel, and lastly Daniel. Most of the apocryphal books of the Old Testament are found in the Syriac, and the Wisdom of Sirach is held to have been translated from the Hebrew and not from the Septuagint.[3]
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#166717 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
That has nothing to do with religion.
The credit to success of some European nations or the West does not go to Christianity, the enemy of knowledge and development of mankind. The credit goes to brilliant men, who stood up against the monstrosity.
Look at the condition of other Christian countries in the European backyard, Africa and South America! They are mostly backward, poor and life is not so pleasant. Do you think it is because the Holy Spirit does not know their coordinates?
Christianity has always been a bane of humanity.
Thanks for that, bro.
Paul WV is really panicking because he know that his cult is housed on quick sand.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#166718 Mar 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
It looks like allah is the servant of mohammad and not mohammad being the servant of allah. Maybe by islamic definition allah is not mohammad's alter ego, but in psychological terms he is.
Not by islamic definition but by definition.

Allah is like a puppet in the hands of Muhammad.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166719 Mar 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
HERE IS WHY WE MUST BE BAPTIZED IN THE
NAME OF THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY Spirit
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit".
– Matthew 28:19.
Why do you keep parroting out this post-Constantine forgery in Matthew? 

Peter and the disciples never baptized in that manner. Acts agrees with me, not with Matthew.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#166720 Mar 10, 2013
OOPS I posted the wrong paragraph

regarding the NEW testament

Of the New Testament, attempts at translation must have been made very early, and among the ancient versions of New Testament Scripture the Syriac in all likelihood is the earliest. It was at Antioch, the capital of Syria, that the disciples of Christ were first called Christians, and it seemed natural that the first translation of the Christian Scriptures should have been made there. The tendency of recent research, however, goes to show that Edessa, the literary capital, was more likely the place.

If we could accept the somewhat obscure statement of Eusebius[6] that Hegesippus "made some quotations from the Gospel according to the Hebrews and from the Syriac Gospel," we should have a reference to a Syriac New Testament as early as 160-80 AD, the time of that Hebrew Christian writer. One thing is certain, that the earliest New Testament of the Syriac church lacked not only the Antilegomena – 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, Jude, and the Apocalypse – but the whole of the Catholic Epistles. These were at a later date translated and received into the Syriac Canon of the New Testament, but the quotations of the early Syrian Fathers take no notice of these New Testament books.

From the 5th century, however, the Peshitta containing both Old Testament and New Testament has been used in its present form only as the national version of the Syriac Scriptures. The translation of the New Testament is careful, faithful and literal, and the simplicity, directness and transparency of the style are admired by all Syriac scholars and have earned for it the title of "Queen of the versions." [3]
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166721 Mar 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Bull-crap.
You don't want to know the truth because ot destroy Muhammad and his bull-crap Quran.
The Antioch Bible Set
A fresh new idiomatic English translation based on the
Aramaic text of the Syriac Peshitta
in ca. 30 volumes
“No branch of the Early Church has done more for the translation of the Bible into their vernacular than the Syriac-speaking. In our European libraries we have Syriac Bible manuscripts from Lebanon, Egypt, Sinai, Mesopotamia, Armenia, India, even from China.”
You are a Muhammadan.
You refuse to accept the truth of God.
If you bring a group of the Church fathers for a lie-detection test and they are brought near the machine, it will immediately print out "No test required for these liars!"

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