Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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#166621 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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No.
You are the "no boy" on this thread.
All your post are redressed with a "NO"
Never once do you accept the truth about Islam to be known.
You lie and lie and lie every day on these threads.
I been here on this thread a little over a month, and that is all you do is lie.
That is shameful.

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#166622 Mar 10, 2013
uhuh wrote:
jews must recite their daily prayers in Hebrew, the language of their scripture
muslims must recite their daily prayers in Arabic, the language of their scripture
christians too should recite their daily prayers in Greek, the language of their "scripture"
lol

I can see it. Little Christian kids going to "Greek school" after regular school, just like us Jews.

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#166623 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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LOL!
They can't and the tragic part is that they can't even pray in the native language of Jesus.
Thats not the really tragic part.

The really tragic part is that many dont even know what Aramaic is. At least even the noneducated Jews know what Hebrew is, and the noneducated moslems know what Arabic is.

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#166624 Mar 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You are right to a point; that Christianity is no more relevance in the modern world, and has been replaced by intellectual inquiry that promotes debate on how to help the ignorance of people remain in their ignorance so that liberals can feel good about them self in finding ways to fund the needs of the ignorant.
Not my problem. My religion has ALWAYS valued inquiry and debate. As a result it never lost its relevance, or its popularity. You would be wise to understand this.

You might start by focusing on the fundamentals, such as what is scripture and why wouldnt EVERYONE (not just the command and control management)learn and possess the tools to interpret it.

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#166625 Mar 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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The NT Scriptures were written in Greek; the native language. So where does your definition say Greek is not a scriptural language. What is bmz's definition of a scriputal language; I've been waiting a week for a reply to this question.
We werent talking about the NT - I never questioned any of your NT citations. I questioned the veracity of your mangled OT translations from the original Hebrew.

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#166626 Mar 10, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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Jews keep borrowing from various cultures or sources to reinvent their beliefs, attitudes and practices.
If a faith is based on cosmic principles then it need not reinvent itself nor does it need to readjust its values since the cosmic principles on which it stands are eternal.
Vedanta and Buddhism are faiths based on cosmic principles as seen in their expositions and so these faiths need not adjust themselves with the march of time. Who can dispute the laws of consciousness, space, singularity, space, time and the rest? These are the cosmic principles that never change.
Straw arguments - off topic

The point is when one studies Torah in the Jewish tradition, one starts by raising questions.

And one ends by raising more questions.

I.E. the method encourages discussion, debate, dissent.

Furthermore, the religion has never really been anti-science. Science is not considered a theological threat.

Most forms of Christianity, otoh, are based on literalisms and the suppression of public inquiry into the meaning of the scripture. And many denominations do not support science.
Paul WV

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#166627 Mar 10, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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We werent talking about the NT - I never questioned any of your NT citations. I questioned the veracity of your mangled OT translations from the original Hebrew.
I asked bmz for the definition of a scriptural language since he claims Greek is not one. You gave your definition based on a wrong premise for why I was asking him the question.
Paul WV

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#166628 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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LOL!
They can't and the tragic part is that they can't even pray in the native language of Jesus.
You guys are so misguided, can't allah understand other languages then arabic? The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob can understand all languages of the world and people over the world can pray to him in their native language. allah ain't to bright, is he?

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#166629 Mar 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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I asked bmz for the definition of a scriptural language since he claims Greek is not one. You gave your definition based on a wrong premise for why I was asking him the question.
what is the right premise then in your opinion?
John

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#166630 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Keep on lying like the Church did for centuries, Doc!
Ibn Ishaq was an idiot just like the writers of the four gospels, who wrote the atles based on hearsay.
His book cannot be found. And some work was re-written by his deputy, Ibn Hisham. There is no mention of any John or the gospel or the New Testament in his works.
We have been showing you corruptions and forgeries in your Bible daily. How can you say taht there is no corruption in your Bible?
The problem is that you have not really read your corrupt Bible, we have. Forgeries were rampant in the first four centuries and that 'tradition' was always maintained by the Church. Forgeries only stopped after the 18th Century.
You really are a mental defective bmz.
Any fact that exposes your insane version of history is somehow a lie.
Anything in any historical source that proves you are incorrect is somehow corrupted or a forgery.
You are the fraud attempting corruption and forgery bmz.
Like all muztards, you obey the murderous false prophet and lie to promote your sick cult.
You are evil.
bmz

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#166631 Mar 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You are the "no boy" on this thread.
All your post are redressed with a "NO"
Never once do you accept the truth about Islam to be known.
You lie and lie and lie every day on these threads.
I been here on this thread a little over a month, and that is all you do is lie.
That is shameful.
No! I have never lied.

You just lied just like your Church fathers.

You have already been here long. You used to write under the nickname 'Think" and when you could not think any further, you became Septic, I mean Skeptic.
Paul WV

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#166632 Mar 10, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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what is the right premise then in your opinion?
The right premise for the question is why I was asking bmz the question in the first place. bmz was trying to imply Greek is not a scriptural language because it cannot articulate theological concepts in general. I asked bmz to provide a definition of a scriptural language by a recognized authority saying Greek is not a scriptural language.
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#166633 Mar 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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You guys are so misguided, can't allah understand other languages then arabic? The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob can understand all languages of the world and people over the world can pray to him in their native language. allah ain't to bright, is he?
UhUh brought to our attention that the Jews offer their prayers in Hebrew and Muslims offer in Arabic.

That is very true. You don't. So what is your problem?

Did Jesus pray to the Father in Greek, the market or street language in the area?
bmz

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#166634 Mar 10, 2013
John wrote:
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You really are a mental defective bmz.
Any fact that exposes your insane version of history is somehow a lie.
Anything in any historical source that proves you are incorrect is somehow corrupted or a forgery.
You are the fraud attempting corruption and forgery bmz.
Like all muztards, you obey the murderous false prophet and lie to promote your sick cult.
You are evil.
How so?

Would you like to discuss all the absurdities and the forgeries in your Bible, with me, if you think you are a cognizant Christian?
bmz

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#166635 Mar 10, 2013
Robert Laity wrote:
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Pray in Greek if you want. No one is stopping you.
No, because Latin and Greek, languages unfit for any Scripture, were not the language of my Scripture.

Did Jesus pray in Latin or Greek?
bmz

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#166636 Mar 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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The right premise for the question is why I was asking bmz the question in the first place. bmz was trying to imply Greek is not a scriptural language because it cannot articulate theological concepts in general. I asked bmz to provide a definition of a scriptural language by a recognized authority saying Greek is not a scriptural language.
Why does one need a recognized authority for a simple comment?

I have already said that the Greek language is unfit for any Scripture because it has never been the language of any Scripture revealed.

Hebrew or Jewish Scriptures were only revealed in Hebrew. so, Hebrew can be called a language in which Scripture was revealed and that simply means a Scriptural Language.

Greek is not. Nothing was revealed in that language by God. So, we call it non-scriptural language.

"Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" is Aramaic and that is the language that Jesus spoke. Why was nothing written in Aramaic?

The massive confusion which led to various absurd doctrines and the concoction of a triune God, came through Greek.

John

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#166637 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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How so?
Would you like to discuss all the absurdities and the forgeries in your Bible, with me, if you think you are a cognizant Christian?
We've proven to you a hundred times that your bullshit about forged gospels is bullshit.
We show you fragments of the gospels from the first and second centuries, you say they're forged.
We show you quotes from the new testament in the writings of first and second century authors, you say they're forged.
LOL.
You're a fool.
John

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#166638 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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No, because Latin and Greek, languages unfit for any Scripture, were not the language of my Scripture.
Did Jesus pray in Latin or Greek?
Well since the new testament scriptures were written in GREEK, obviously Greek is not unfit for any scripture.
Duh.

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#166639 Mar 10, 2013
"...I asked bmz to provide a definition of a scriptural language by a recognized authority saying Greek is not a scriptural language..."
bmz wrote:
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Why does one need a recognized authority for a simple comment?
I have already said that the Greek language is unfit for any Scripture because it has never been the language of any Scripture revealed.
Hebrew or Jewish Scriptures were only revealed in Hebrew. so, Hebrew can be called a language in which Scripture was revealed and that simply means a Scriptural Language.
Greek is not. Nothing was revealed in that language by God. So, we call it non-scriptural language.
"Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" is Aramaic and that is the language that Jesus spoke. Why was nothing written in Aramaic?
The massive confusion which led to various absurd doctrines and the concoction of a triune God, came through Greek.
Well you wanted a definition, and BMZ provided you one.

And he also explained why your premise that an authority is needed is baseless. That said, any serious scholar of scripture would agree 100% with BMZ.

All this time you spend arguing, you could be learning Aramaic or Hebrew. Or even Greek.

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#166640 Mar 10, 2013
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