Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 230762 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166589 Mar 9, 2013
Shamma wrote:
There is another book of scripture about which many Jews and Christians do not agree. This book too has been given various names in different cultures. It has been called The Gospel or the New Testament or the New Covenant. Christians accept the Gospel as scripture. This book is the second section of the Bible.
Carry on lying, Doc!

And the Jews DO NOT agree with any Christian book.

Please note that they do not even read and recite Christians' Old Testament, which is a forged copy of their Scripture.

Qur'aan does not mention the words Bible, Gospel and the New Testament.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166590 Mar 9, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Muhammad lived during the 6th/7th century A.D. We have Bibles from before, during and after this time. This archaeological evidence allows us to be sure that the Torah and Gospel mentioned in the Qur'an are the same books that are found in the Bible today.

This fact is also confirmed by Ibn Ishaq who wrote the earliest biography (Sirat) of Muhammad. He clearly indentifies the Gospel mentioned in the Qur'an as what Christians call the New Testament.
Among the things which have reached me about what Jesus the Son of Mary stated in the Gospel which he received from God for the followers of the Gospel, in applying a term to describe the apostle of God, is the following. It is extracted from what John the Apostle set down for them when he wrote the Gospel for them from the Testament of Jesus Son of Mary (Ibn Ishaq's "Sirat Rasulallah", translated as "The Life of Muhammad", by A. Guillaume, Karachi: Oxford, 1998, pp. 103-104, bold added.)

Here we see Ibn Ishaq refer to the Apostle John and the Gospel that he wrote. This is simply what Christians call the Gospel according to John and it is part of the New Testment.
So there is no corruption of the Holy Bible.
Keep on lying like the Church did for centuries, Doc!

Ibn Ishaq was an idiot just like the writers of the four gospels, who wrote the atles based on hearsay.

His book cannot be found. And some work was re-written by his deputy, Ibn Hisham. There is no mention of any John or the gospel or the New Testament in his works.

We have been showing you corruptions and forgeries in your Bible daily. How can you say taht there is no corruption in your Bible?

The problem is that you have not really read your corrupt Bible, we have. Forgeries were rampant in the first four centuries and that 'tradition' was always maintained by the Church. Forgeries only stopped after the 18th Century.
Alex

UK

#166591 Mar 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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All they are doing these days is to apologize for their past misdeeds....one after the other and it never seems to end.
At least they have the integrity to admit their mistakes and apologise for them something that muslims could never do because of their arrogance and double standards

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#166592 Mar 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Keep on lying like the Church did for centuries, Doc!
Ibn Ishaq was an idiot just like the writers of the four gospels, who wrote the atles based on hearsay.
His book cannot be found. And some work was re-written by his deputy, Ibn Hisham. There is no mention of any John or the gospel or the New Testament in his works.
We have been showing you corruptions and forgeries in your Bible daily. How can you say taht there is no corruption in your Bible?
The problem is that you have not really read your corrupt Bible, we have. Forgeries were rampant in the first four centuries and that 'tradition' was always maintained by the Church. Forgeries only stopped after the 18th Century.
You are a loser, and have no shame of bring an ignorant fool.

You are the exhibit of the re-incarnation of Muhammad.
A man who claimed himself to be God.
huhu

Spain

#166593 Mar 9, 2013
Q: What do priests (and SEXtons) use a PEDOmeter for?
JIL

Calgary, Canada

#166594 Mar 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Keep on lying like the Church did for centuries, Doc!
Ibn Ishaq was an idiot just like the writers of the four gospels, who wrote the atles based on hearsay.
His book cannot be found. And some work was re-written by his deputy, Ibn Hisham. There is no mention of any John or the gospel or the New Testament in his works.
Its amazing to see Muslims continuously whip out this baseless retort about the Gospels being corrupt. Your Quran confirms the Torah and our New Testament as being authentic, yet you assert that it has been forged throughout the centuries? lol, do you realize you're contradicting your own religion?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#166595 Mar 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Jews havent neutralized Christianity - rather Christianity has neutralized itself by being irrelevant to the problems of the modern world.
Judaism, on the other hand, has always embraced intellectual inquiry and debate, so modernism has never been a real threat to the practice of the religion.
You are right to a point; that Christianity is no more relevance in the modern world, and has been replaced by intellectual inquiry that promotes debate on how to help the ignorance of people remain in their ignorance so that liberals can feel good about them self in finding ways to fund the needs of the ignorant.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#166596 Mar 9, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
You are ignorant of what the Quran says about the Holy Bible of God.
The Quran confirms its trust worthlessness.
What are the Jewish and Christian Scriptures?
From the time of Jesus, the Jews and Christians have always shared the same holy book. In Judaism it is called the Tonach or Hebrew Bible, and in Christianity, the Old Testament. In this book are the Torah, the Prophets, and the Psalms. These are the scriptures of the Jewish Prophets before Jesus. Christians have always honoured and read this scripture that first came to the Jews. This scripture is the first section of the Christian Bible.
There is another book of scripture about which many Jews and Christians do not agree. This book too has been given various names in different cultures. It has been called The Gospel or the New Testament or the New Covenant. Christians accept the Gospel as scripture. This book is the second section of the Bible.
Thus all the scriptures of the Jews and Christians are found in the Bible. There exists today ancient Bibles from the time of Muhammad and hundreds of years before his time. Scholars use these ancient scriptures to show that modern Bibles are genuine.
Some people claim that when the Qur'an refers to the Torah or the Gospel that it is not referring to the books Jews and Christians have today. However the Qur'an does not claim this. When the Qur'an speaks of the Torah and the Gospel it is referring to the books which the Jews and Christians possessed at the time of Muhammad.
Those who follow the Messenger (Mohammed), the Prophet who can neither read nor write, whom they will find described in the Torah and the Gospel (which are) with them (7:157 MP).
And when there cometh unto them (Jews) a Scripture (the Qur'an) from Allah, confirming that in their possession (2:89 MP).
Muhammad lived during the 6th/7th century A.D. We have Bibles from before, during and after this time. This archaeological evidence allows us to be sure that the Torah and Gospel mentioned in the Qur'an are the same books that are found in the Bible today.
This fact is also confirmed by Ibn Ishaq who wrote the earliest biography (Sirat) of Muhammad. He clearly indentifies the Gospel mentioned in the Qur'an as what Christians call the New Testament.
Among the things which have reached me about what Jesus the Son of Mary stated in the Gospel which he received from God for the followers of the Gospel, in applying a term to describe the apostle of God, is the following. It is extracted from what John the Apostle set down for them when he wrote the Gospel for them from the Testament of Jesus Son of Mary (Ibn Ishaq's "Sirat Rasulallah", translated as "The Life of Muhammad", by A. Guillaume, Karachi: Oxford, 1998, pp. 103-104, bold added.)
Here we see Ibn Ishaq refer to the Apostle John and the Gospel that he wrote. This is simply what Christians call the Gospel according to John and it is part of the New Testment.
So there is no corruption of the Holy Bible.
Quran NEVER uses the word Bible!!

It speaks of Torah, the revelation which was given to Prophet Moses, PBUH.

It speaks of ZABUR, the revelation which was given to Prophet David, PBUH

It speaks of of Injeel, the revelation which was given to Prophet Jesus, PBUH.

It speaks of the revelation which was given by God to other prophets of Jews.

But it NEVER speaks about Bible.

Torah is NOT the first five books of Holy Bible.

Injeel is NOT the four Gospels.

And ZABUR is not the current book of Psalms!!

First learn about Quranic terminology before opening your mouth.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#166597 Mar 9, 2013
Alex wrote:
<quoted text>
At least they have the integrity to admit their mistakes and apologise for them something that muslims could never do because of their arrogance and double standards
Muslims treatment of Jews has been blameless and they have NOTHING to apologise for.

It were Muslims who gave them shelters when they ran from the atrocities of their "Christian friends".

Why should we apologise for "non committed crimes"

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#166598 Mar 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Carry on lying, Doc!
And the Jews DO NOT agree with any Christian book.
Please note that they do not even read and recite Christians' Old Testament, which is a forged copy of their Scripture.
Qur'aan does not mention the words Bible, Gospel and the New Testament.
1. The injeel is the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Jesus Was Given the Injeel

"And in their footsteps We sent Jesus, the Son of Mary, confirming the law that had come before him. We gave him the Gospel, therein was guidance and light and confirmation of the law that had come before him, a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah." 5/46.

"I am indeed a servant of Allah, He gave me the Book and made me a prophet." 19/32

Jesus Was Taught the Injeel

"Then Allah says, "O Jesus, the son of Mary! Recount My favour on you and your mother, when I strengthened you with the angel Gabrael so that you speak to the people in childhood and maturity, and when I taught you the book and wisdom and Torah and Injeel." 5/110.

"He (Jesus) said, "Verily, I am a worshipper of Allah. He has given me the Book and made me a Prophet." 19/32.

"Allah will teach him the book and wisdom, the Torah and the Injeel." 3/48.

"In there footsteps We sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the Torah that had come before him, We sent him the Injeel, therein was guidance and light and confirmation of the Torah that had come before him. A guidance and an admonition." 5/46.

2. Whether Jews agree or don't agree with Christians books is irrelevant.
For God is the Author of the books.
truth

Perth, Australia

#166599 Mar 9, 2013
Muslim world not understood
nothing wish from your brother.
Others can't ruin you but brothers can.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#166600 Mar 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Muslims treatment of Jews has been blameless and they have NOTHING to apologise for.
It were Muslims who gave them shelters when they ran from the atrocities of their "Christian friends".
Why should we apologise for "non committed crimes"
The 1066 Granada massacre took place on 30 December 1066 (9 Tevet 4827) when a Muslim mob stormed the royal palace in Granada, which was at that time in Muslim-ruled al-Andalus, assassinated the Jewish vizier Joseph ibn Naghrela and massacred many of the Berber Jewish population of the city.[1][2]

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#166601 Mar 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Quran NEVER uses the word Bible!!
It speaks of Torah, the revelation which was given to Prophet Moses, PBUH.
It speaks of ZABUR, the revelation which was given to Prophet David, PBUH
It speaks of of Injeel, the revelation which was given to Prophet Jesus, PBUH.
It speaks of the revelation which was given by God to other prophets of Jews.
But it NEVER speaks about Bible.
Torah is NOT the first five books of Holy Bible.
Injeel is NOT the four Gospels.
And ZABUR is not the current book of Psalms!!
First learn about Quranic terminology before opening your mouth.
The Qur'anic View of the Jewish and Christian Scripture

1/ The Qur'an teaches that all scripture should be respected in the same way:

O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Apostle, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Apostle and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Apostles, and the Day of Judgement, hath gone far, far astray (4:136 AYA).

We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them (3:84 AYA).

2/ The Torah that was given to Moses, and the Gospel that was given to Jesus, are the scriptures that the Jews and Christians now possess:

Those who follow the Messenger (Mohammed), the Prophet who can neither read nor write, whom they will find described in the Torah and the Gospel (which are) with them (7:157 MP).

And when there cometh unto them (Jews) a Scripture (the Qur'an) from Allah, confirming that in their possession (2:89 MP).

Thus, the Qur'an is not referring to scripture that Jews and Christians use to possess in the past, but now are lost. Rather, the Torah given to Moses, and the Gospel given to Jesus, is the scripture that is with them (the Christians and Jews) and in their possession at the time of Muhammad.

3/ The Qur'an teaches that it confirms and explains more fully the previous scripture:

This Koran is not such as can be produced by other than Allah; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book (10:37 AYA/38 MP).

Thus, the Qur'an sees itself as the guardian of the message of all scripture: To thee We sent the scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety (5:48 MP/51 AYA).

4/ Does the Qur'an teach that it abrogates the Jewish and Christian scripture? Some may point to 2:106 to say it does.

None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar (2:106, AYA)

However, it is unlikely that this verse is referring to the Christian and Jewish scripture, for just five verses after 2:106 the Qur'an asks Christians and Jews to bring your proof (2:111) from their scriptures. This would be an irrelevant and contradictory command if it had just taught that their scripture was abrogated. In fact, just thirty verses after 2:106 the Qur'an says that it makes no distinction between (2:136) itself and any of the former scripture. Al-Bukhari records that 2:106 refers to abrogation within the Qur'an itself:

Narrated Ibn Abbas: Umar said, "Ubai was the best of us in the recitation (of the Qur'an) yet we leave (out) some of what he recites". Ubai says, "I have taken it from the mouth of Allah's Apostle and will not leave for anything whatever". But Allah said: "None of our revelations do we abrogate or cause to be forgotten but We substitute something better or similar" (Qur'an 2:106).(Bukhari: vol. 6, hadith 527, p. 489; book 61)

Sura 16:101 also shows that this abrogation has to do with the content of the Qur'an and not the scripture of the Jews and Christians.

Since: Apr 11

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#166602 Mar 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Quran NEVER uses the word Bible!!
And when We exchange a verse in the place of another verse - and God knows very well what he is sending down - they say (to Muhammad), "Thou art a mere forger!" (16:101, Arberry)

5/A very important section of the Qur'an which deals with the scripture of the Jews and Christians and their relation to the Qur'an is Surah 5:43-49. These verses record how Jews came to Muhummad to ask him for a decision, and it tells the answer he was to give them.

How come they (come) unto thee (Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)?... Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light ... And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil). Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers.

And unto thee (Muslims) have We revealed the Scripture (the Qur'an) with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee. For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced-out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you (He hath made you as ye are). So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will all return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ.(5:43-48, MP)

The key sentence from the above is, For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced-out way. This verse is teaching that the different religious groups (Jews, Christians and Muslims), have each been given a divine law (Torah, Gospel and Qur'an) and that each group is to make their decisions based upon what they have been given.

Thus the Qur'an encourages Jews to judge by the Torah:

How come they (come) unto thee (Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)?(5:43, MP)

And the Qur'an urges Christians to judge by the Gospel:

Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers.(5:47, MP)

And it encourages Muslims to judge by the Qur'an:

And unto thee (Muslims) have We revealed the Scripture (the Qur'an) with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed.(5:48, MP)

Again, we see that the Qur'an refers to the scriptures of the Christians and Jews as God's reliable word. Jews and Christians are commanded to consult their scriptures when desiring to know God's will. The Qur'an therefore considers these scriptures to be reliable. Surah 5:43-48 also shows that the Qur'an is not claiming to abrogate (replace) the Gospel and Torah but is a parallel revelation to them.

6/ Say: "O People of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord" (5:71 AYA/68 MP). How can the Jew or Christian, stand fast by the Law and the Gospel, if the Law and the Gospel have been corrupted or abrogated? Again, the assumption of the Qur'an is that the scriptures that the Christians and Jews have is the reliable word of God.

7/ In the following verse the Books of Moses are referred to as being a reliable source of God's warning: Nay, is he not acquainted with what is in the books of Moses (53:36 AYA). Thus, there is no excuse for the one who ignores it.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#166603 Mar 9, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
The Qur'anic View of the Jewish and Christian Scripture
1/ The Qur'an teaches that all scripture should be respected in the same way:
O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Apostle, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Apostle and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Apostles, and the Day of Judgement, hath gone far, far astray (4:136 AYA).
We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them (3:84 AYA).
2/ The Torah that was given to Moses, and the Gospel that was given to Jesus, are the scriptures that the Jews and Christians now possess:

..

..
Irrespective of how you try to arrange them, you cannot find Bible in Quran and not the Four Gospels as Injeel that was given to Jesus.

It was nice attempt to teach us Quran, never the less!!

We respect the earlier scriptures , I wish the same you do for the Last and Final revelation that came to mankind, the Quran!!

And it is "very pleasing" to see that you use Quran to justify your books and then call our prophet as some one who was a false prophet and picked bits and pieces from Bible to form his Quran!!

Another word for such type of arguments is "having your cake and eating it too"!!

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#166604 Mar 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Quran NEVER uses the word Bible!!
The Quran talks about the Scripture in the Bible.

7/ In the following verse the Books of Moses are referred to as being a reliable source of God's warning: Nay, is he not acquainted with what is in the books of Moses (53:36 AYA). Thus, there is no excuse for the one who ignores it.

8/ A Muslim is instructed, when arguing with a Jew about clean/halal food, to ask the Jew to bring his proof from the Law of Moses. Say: "Bring ye the Law and study it, if ye be men of truth" (3:93 AYA). How can he bring the Law and study it to determine the truth if it has been corrupted or abrogated? This scripture must be reliable to make such a command. The same assumption is also seen in the following verse: And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful" (2:111 AYA).

9/ In the following verses we see Jews and Christians are urged to teach the truth of their scriptures and to obey them: Say: "O People of the Scripture! Stress not in your religion other than the truth" (5:77 MP/80 AYA). Do ye enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget (to practice it) yourselves, and yet ye study the Scripture?(2:44 AYA). Christians and Jews could not teach and obey their scriptures if their scriptures were corrupted.

10/ The scripture from before the time of Muhammad was to be consulted by either Muhammad or his Arab contemporaries if they were in doubt about the message that had been given to Muhammad: If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee (10:94 AYA/95 MP). Thus this earlier scripture must have been preserved to make such a request.

11/ Here the former scriptures of the Jews and Christians are appealed to to prove that Muhammad is an authentic prophet.

Those who follow the Messenger (Mohammed), the Prophet who can neither read nor write, whom they will find described in the Torah and the Gospel (which are) with them (7:157 MP).

They say: "If only he would bring us a miracle from his Lord!" Hath there not come unto them the proof of what is in the former scriptures?(20:133 MP).

And lo, it is in the scriptures from the men of old. Is it not a token for them that the (religious) doctors of the Children of Israel know it?(26:196-197 MP).

How can these scriptures be appealed to, to prove Muhammad is genuine, if they have been corrupted? The Qur'an must view these scriptures as reliable to make such a request.

All that is in the Muslim books.
It shows that the claim the Bible is corrupted by Muslims is a falsehood MUQ.

Since: Apr 11

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#166605 Mar 9, 2013
Muslims make false claims and then claim their falsehoods are truth.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166606 Mar 9, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
1. The injeel is the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Jesus Was Given the Injeel
"And in their footsteps We sent Jesus, the Son of Mary, confirming the law that had come before him. We gave him the Gospel, therein was guidance and light and confirmation of the law that had come before him, a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah." 5/46.
"I am indeed a servant of Allah, He gave me the Book and made me a prophet." 19/32
Jesus Was Taught the Injeel
"Then Allah says, "O Jesus, the son of Mary! Recount My favour on you and your mother, when I strengthened you with the angel Gabrael so that you speak to the people in childhood and maturity, and when I taught you the book and wisdom and Torah and Injeel." 5/110.
"He (Jesus) said, "Verily, I am a worshipper of Allah. He has given me the Book and made me a Prophet." 19/32.
"Allah will teach him the book and wisdom, the Torah and the Injeel." 3/48.
"In there footsteps We sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the Torah that had come before him, We sent him the Injeel, therein was guidance and light and confirmation of the Torah that had come before him. A guidance and an admonition." 5/46.

2. Whether Jews agree or don't agree with Christians books is irrelevant.
For God is the Author of the books.
Injeel means the wisdom and knowledge to reason granted to Jesus by Allah, the LORD Almighty of the Heavens and all.

One can find a little bit of that in Matthew 5-7 and some parables, which the Church and her notorious writers could not change. The rest of the stuff in the gospels is junk written by men.

Jews do matter because Christianity stole their Scripture, forged and corrupted it and came with a dirty and an improper name 'the Old Testament'.

If there were a mention of a son of God coming as a messiah to suffer, die and get up again, they would have known 2,000 years before the arrival of Jesus.

You do not have any revealed Scripture as Jesus was not given any. He came with nothing new, brought nothing new and gave nothing new. The New Testament is not a revealed Scripture. It is just a collection of 2nd hand tales and personal letters.

Also, if there were any triune God, they would have known it long before.

So, the Jews are Accredited Checkers No:1 and we are Accredited Checkers No:2 and both concur that the Christian Bible is a huge fraud.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166607 Mar 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Pedophilia in the Qur'an

Main article: Pedophilia in the Qur'an

The Qur'an permits pedophilia. The following Qur'anic verse allows sex with pre-pubescent girls who have not yet menstruated.

And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.

Qur'an 65:4

What is being discussed is the Iddat (&#1575;&#1604;&#1 593;&#1583;&#1577; &#8206;), which is a waiting period a female must observe before she can remarry. According to this verse, the stipulated waiting period for a divorced girl who has not yet menstruated is three months.
Muhammad Fits the Clinical Definition of a Pedophile
The difference between you and us is that we can explain Qur'aan and defend it, while you clueless ignorant fools cannot even defend the pile of loose Horse Shit in your Bible.

Let me rub dung in your face now, as the good Lord suggested through Malachi.

You quoted the following verse:

"And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair. "

What is the word written in there? The word is 'women', not children or babies, ignorant fool!

The Surah 65 is on Divorce and starts as: "When you divorce your women....."

It does not say, "When you divorce little children......"

The rotten to bone marrow Christian evangelists and polemicists do this kind of rubbish, even without reading and understanding.

The surah deals with the following cases, which I am writing as if a 3rd Grader would be reading:

1. Wife is very old. Has no more periods/menstruation, meaning has attained menopause. In her case, there is no need to wait as she cannot conceive.

2. Wife is older but hasn't reached her menopause and one is not sure. She might conceive. So a waiting period has to be observed.

3. Wife is young. Must wait for her next period before divorcing her.

Jesus, unfortunately was so busy in Tu Quoque exchanges with the Jews that he did not have time to explain anything on the social matters.

Also, Jesus was not consulted by the public on social and civil issues as the people contacted Rabbis.

Muhammad was asked questions and he explained.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166608 Mar 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Muslims make false claims and then claim their falsehoods are truth.
No, not at all.

Who has come up with the following falsehoods and absurdities?

Jesus is the son of God. Jesus is God in flesh or Jesus is God in person.

Jesus is God. Jesus is the Father. Jesus is the God of Israel.

God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

And all other bull shit?

Christians. Right?

Do you see Muslims making any such silly, idiotic, dumb and absurd claims such as the ones mentioned above?

Nay! It is Christianity that has come up with falsehoods.

Christianity can no longer fool the literate folks anymore. Her demise is imminent.

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