Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256490 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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#166610 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Injeel means the wisdom and knowledge to reason granted to Jesus by Allah, the LORD Almighty of the Heavens and all.
One can find a little bit of that in Matthew 5-7 and some parables, which the Church and her notorious writers could not change. The rest of the stuff in the gospels is junk written by men.
Jews do matter because Christianity stole their Scripture, forged and corrupted it and came with a dirty and an improper name 'the Old Testament'.
If there were a mention of a son of God coming as a messiah to suffer, die and get up again, they would have known 2,000 years before the arrival of Jesus.
You do not have any revealed Scripture as Jesus was not given any. He came with nothing new, brought nothing new and gave nothing new. The New Testament is not a revealed Scripture. It is just a collection of 2nd hand tales and personal letters.
Also, if there were any triune God, they would have known it long before.
So, the Jews are Accredited Checkers No:1 and we are Accredited Checkers No:2 and both concur that the Christian Bible is a huge fraud.
Your interpretation is wrong.
There are over 300 prophecy that Jesus fulfilled in the OT.
Just because Muslims and Jews ignore them does not prove you are or the Jews are right.
Beside the scripture in the Quran are false hoods.
And Muhammad was not a prophet of God of the Holy Bible of God.
All your post turn out to be falsehoods.
I just posted about the scripture in the Quran and you deny that what the Quran says in it is true.
You have to keep telling lies to back up your lies.
Jesus is the Son of God, and the scripture in the Quran that denies Jesus is the Son of God has proven to be a FALSE HOOD.

All scripture has been thoroughly investigated by thousands of reparable scholars and the Quran has shown it does not past the test to be considered Scripture revealed by God to Muhammad.

Muhammad's moral behavior does not past the moral test to be a prophet of the God of Gods Holy Bible.


bmz

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#166611 Mar 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Your interpretation is wrong.
There are over 300 prophecy that Jesus fulfilled in the OT.
Just because Muslims and Jews ignore them does not prove you are or the Jews are right.
Beside the scripture in the Quran are false hoods.
And Muhammad was not a prophet of God of the Holy Bible of God.
All your post turn out to be falsehoods.
I just posted about the scripture in the Quran and you deny that what the Quran says in it is true.
You have to keep telling lies to back up your lies.
Jesus is the Son of God, and the scripture in the Quran that denies Jesus is the Son of God has proven to be a FALSE HOOD.
All scripture has been thoroughly investigated by thousands of reparable scholars and the Quran has shown it does not past the test to be considered Scripture revealed by God to Muhammad.
Muhammad's moral behavior does not past the moral test to be a prophet of the God of Gods Holy Bible.
jesus fulfilled nothing!

Read this:

Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:

Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.

Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.

Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.

Jewish belief is based on national revelation.

But first, some background: What exactly is the Messiah?

The word "Messiah" is an English rendering of the Hebrew word Mashiach, which means "anointed." It usually refers to a person initiated into God's service by being anointed with oil.(Exodus 29:7, 1-Kings 1:39, 2-Kings 9:3)

1. Jesus Did Not Fulfill the Messianic Prophecies

What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? One of the central themes of biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God.(Isaiah 2:1-4, 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)

Specifically, the Bible says he will:

Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).

Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).

Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world &#8213; on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah.
Because no one has ever fulfilled the Bible's description of this future King, Jews still await the coming of the Messiah. All past Messianic claimants, including Jesus of Nazareth, Bar Cochba and Shabbtai Tzvi have been rejected.

Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming. Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright; in the Bible no concept of a second coming exists.

And continue reading at:

http://www.aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html

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#166612 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Incarnation and re-incarnation have no place in Islam. Both terms are bullshit!
The only man, who is reported to have claimed that he was God, was the biblical fool Jesus.
Muhammad never made any foolish and absurd statements like Jesus.
Maybe they don't, but you demonstrate you qualify as the re-incarnation of Muhammad.

But Muhammad took control of the Muslims as if he himself is God.
And Muslims today try to enforce Muhammad's Will on non-Muslims.
uhuh

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#166613 Mar 10, 2013
jews must recite their daily prayers in Hebrew, the language of their scripture
muslims must recite their daily prayers in Arabic, the language of their scripture

christians too should recite their daily prayers in Greek, the language of their "scripture"
uhuh

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#166614 Mar 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
The 1066 Granada massacre took place on 30 December 1066 (9 Tevet 4827) when a Muslim mob stormed the royal palace in Granada, which was at that time in Muslim-ruled al-Andalus, assassinated the Jewish vizier Joseph ibn Naghrela and massacred many of the Berber Jewish population of the city.[1][2]
also from your source (wiki),

"..massacres such as that in Granada in 1066 are of rare occurrence in Islamic history."
bmz

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#166615 Mar 10, 2013
uhuh wrote:
jews must recite their daily prayers in Hebrew, the language of their scripture
muslims must recite their daily prayers in Arabic, the language of their scripture

christians too should recite their daily prayers in Greek, the language of their "scripture"
LOL!

They can't and the tragic part is that they can't even pray in the native language of Jesus.
bmz

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#166616 Mar 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe they don't, but you demonstrate you qualify as the re-incarnation of Muhammad.
But Muhammad took control of the Muslims as if he himself is God.
And Muslims today try to enforce Muhammad's Will on non-Muslims.
No.

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#166617 Mar 10, 2013
uhuh wrote:
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also from your source (wiki),
"..massacres such as that in Granada in 1066 are of rare occurrence in Islamic history."
In 1656, all Jews were expelled from Isfahan because of the common belief of their impurity and forced to convert to Islam. However, as it became known that the converts continued to practice Judaism in secret and because the treasury suffered from the loss of jizya collected from the Jews, in 1661 they were allowed to revert to Judaism, but were still required to wear a distinctive patch upon their clothings.[24]

Confined to city quarters, the Bukharan Jews were denied basic rights and many were forced to convert to Islam. They had to wear black and yellow dress to distinguish themselves from the Muslims.[25]

Under the Zaydi rule, the Yemenite Jews were considered to be impure, and therefore forbidden to touch a Muslim or a Muslim's food. They were obligated to humble themselves before a Muslim, to walk to the left side, and greet him first. They could not build houses higher than a Muslim's or ride a camel or horse, and when riding on a mule or a donkey, they had to sit sideways. Upon entering the Muslim quarter a Jew had to take off his foot-gear and walk barefoot. If attacked with stones or fists by Islamic youth, a Jew was not allowed to defend himself. In such situations he had the option of fleeing or seeking intervention by a merciful Muslim passerby.[26]

[edit] 19th century

Photochrom of Jews in Jerusalem, in the 1890s.
In 1834, in Safed local Muslim Arabs carried out a massacre of the indigenous (Old Yishuv) Jewish population of that city in the Safed Plunder.

In 1839, in the eastern Persian city of Meshed, a mob burst into the Jewish Quarter, burned the synagogue, and destroyed the Torah scrolls. It was only by forcible conversion that a massacre was averted.[27] There was another massacre in Barfurush in 1867.[28][29] In 1839, the Allahdad incident, the Jews of Mashhad, Iran, now known as the Mashhadi Jews, were coerced into converting to Islam.[30]

In the middle of the 19th century, J. J. Benjamin wrote about the life of Persian Jews:

"…they are obliged to live in a separate part of town…; for they are considered as unclean creatures… Under the pretext of their being unclean, they are treated with the greatest severity and should they enter a street, inhabited by Mussulmans, they are pelted by the boys and mobs with stones and dirt… For the same reason, they are prohibited to go out when it rains; for it is said the rain would wash dirt off them, which would sully the feet of the Mussulmans… If a Jew is recognized as such in the streets, he is subjected to the greatest insults. The passers-by spit in his face, and sometimes beat him… unmercifully… If a Jew enters a shop for anything, he is forbidden to inspect the goods… Should his hand incautiously touch the goods, he must take them at any price the seller chooses to ask for them... Sometimes the Persians intrude into the dwellings of the Jews and take possession of whatever please them. Should the owner make the least opposition in defense of his property, he incurs the danger of atoning for it with his life... If... a Jew shows himself in the street during the three days of the Katel (Muharram)…, he is sure to be murdered."[31]

The list gets bigger as one searches history of Muslims treatment towards Jews..

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#166618 Mar 10, 2013
uhuh wrote:
jews must recite their daily prayers in Hebrew, the language of their scripture
muslims must recite their daily prayers in Arabic, the language of their scripture
christians too should recite their daily prayers in Greek, the language of their "scripture"
Pray in Greek if you want. No one is stopping you.

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#166619 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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LOL!
They can't and the tragic part is that they can't even pray in the native language of Jesus.
Maybe YOU can't. Doesn't mean no Christian can.
Can YOU pray in Latin?

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#166620 Mar 10, 2013
"Allah" is a false god.

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#166621 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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No.
You are the "no boy" on this thread.
All your post are redressed with a "NO"
Never once do you accept the truth about Islam to be known.
You lie and lie and lie every day on these threads.
I been here on this thread a little over a month, and that is all you do is lie.
That is shameful.

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#166622 Mar 10, 2013
uhuh wrote:
jews must recite their daily prayers in Hebrew, the language of their scripture
muslims must recite their daily prayers in Arabic, the language of their scripture
christians too should recite their daily prayers in Greek, the language of their "scripture"
lol

I can see it. Little Christian kids going to "Greek school" after regular school, just like us Jews.

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#166623 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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LOL!
They can't and the tragic part is that they can't even pray in the native language of Jesus.
Thats not the really tragic part.

The really tragic part is that many dont even know what Aramaic is. At least even the noneducated Jews know what Hebrew is, and the noneducated moslems know what Arabic is.

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#166624 Mar 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You are right to a point; that Christianity is no more relevance in the modern world, and has been replaced by intellectual inquiry that promotes debate on how to help the ignorance of people remain in their ignorance so that liberals can feel good about them self in finding ways to fund the needs of the ignorant.
Not my problem. My religion has ALWAYS valued inquiry and debate. As a result it never lost its relevance, or its popularity. You would be wise to understand this.

You might start by focusing on the fundamentals, such as what is scripture and why wouldnt EVERYONE (not just the command and control management)learn and possess the tools to interpret it.

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#166625 Mar 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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The NT Scriptures were written in Greek; the native language. So where does your definition say Greek is not a scriptural language. What is bmz's definition of a scriputal language; I've been waiting a week for a reply to this question.
We werent talking about the NT - I never questioned any of your NT citations. I questioned the veracity of your mangled OT translations from the original Hebrew.

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#166626 Mar 10, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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Jews keep borrowing from various cultures or sources to reinvent their beliefs, attitudes and practices.
If a faith is based on cosmic principles then it need not reinvent itself nor does it need to readjust its values since the cosmic principles on which it stands are eternal.
Vedanta and Buddhism are faiths based on cosmic principles as seen in their expositions and so these faiths need not adjust themselves with the march of time. Who can dispute the laws of consciousness, space, singularity, space, time and the rest? These are the cosmic principles that never change.
Straw arguments - off topic

The point is when one studies Torah in the Jewish tradition, one starts by raising questions.

And one ends by raising more questions.

I.E. the method encourages discussion, debate, dissent.

Furthermore, the religion has never really been anti-science. Science is not considered a theological threat.

Most forms of Christianity, otoh, are based on literalisms and the suppression of public inquiry into the meaning of the scripture. And many denominations do not support science.
Paul WV

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#166627 Mar 10, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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We werent talking about the NT - I never questioned any of your NT citations. I questioned the veracity of your mangled OT translations from the original Hebrew.
I asked bmz for the definition of a scriptural language since he claims Greek is not one. You gave your definition based on a wrong premise for why I was asking him the question.
Paul WV

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#166628 Mar 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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LOL!
They can't and the tragic part is that they can't even pray in the native language of Jesus.
You guys are so misguided, can't allah understand other languages then arabic? The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob can understand all languages of the world and people over the world can pray to him in their native language. allah ain't to bright, is he?

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#166629 Mar 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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I asked bmz for the definition of a scriptural language since he claims Greek is not one. You gave your definition based on a wrong premise for why I was asking him the question.
what is the right premise then in your opinion?

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