Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 212,110

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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#166496 Mar 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
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How can one pay any attention to this absurdity and balderdash that the name Jesus means God.?
Which fool told you that? The Father or Jesus or the Ghost? your choice! Choose only one.
You did mot read the link.
The link answered all your questions.
Since you did not read it, I will post the whole link so all Muslims can read it.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#166497 Mar 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
The entire NT is not only a Great Commission of Errors but it is also Comedy Central, bro.
See how the ignorant fools are avoiding an answer?
Peter had never heard of the so-called ridiculous Great Commission and baptized folks under Jesus' name only and 4-5 centuries later, the trinitarian crooks added that formula in Matthew 29:19 and I find it not only absurd but hilarious.
Don't I know it, bro!!
Who cares about the truth when the establishment pays the salary, accommodation, and P11D exempt "fringe" benefits to keep them baptising in the name of anything and everything!!
NT= Not True
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#166498 Mar 9, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>See, you criticize as wrong things you do not understand, and puff your chest up serving the commands of the rapist, robber, and murderer Muhammad.
oh dear your rapist robber murderer told us to respect Jesus!
According to you, we must ignore that command!..OK!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#166499 Mar 9, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: i would not be so bold to say, that all-h does not exist. for i know that G-D, made all other subordinate g-ds. and for the last day, G-D rests. So G-D shall not be, answering any of your prayers. so Who shall be your appointed G-d for the last day, here in TheTorah again?
ALLAH is the TRUE GOD.
Your g-d serves only one tribe.
Prove to me this is not the case.
your mini g-d also insists on getting petty names right!!
who cares about names dear jimmie boswell?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#166500 Mar 9, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You did mot read the link.
The link answered all your questions.
Since you did not read it, I will post the whole link so all Muslims can read it.
Dear Shamma.
You give NOTHING important to prove that Jesus is God.
We NEED a CLEAR statement from JESUS that he is God who has come down in human form to die on a roman cross for the sins of Gentiles.
If you cannot give CLEAR proof please move on.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#166501 Mar 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Rabbee,
You are also off-topic, Rabbee
Where did you read this bullshit that Messiah was to be a son of God, had to suffer, had to die and would resurrect within 3 days? Do you have this bullshit in your TheTorah?
rabbee: your being off topic, is accusing me of being what?

as i did not read it, i got this all from G-D HIMSELFS. when THE ONE of BOTH of THEM came to tell me about the woman, here in TheTorah Happening again. this is when G-D, told me THEY had us both as one put to death on the tree, and now retuned us both seperated again. I just Got, Caught up in G-D. it is not my falt, G-D said i am TheHisMaleChild, TheHisSon here in this second coming of Adam again.

and i vehematly resent you calling TheG-D of my visitations a liar with your bullshit. i and G-D am more credable, than your muhammed. for i have actually been visited by G-D THEMSELVES, WHO BOTH claim to be my ONLY PARENT.

and THE WAY, G-D has explained this to me. here in TheTorah is nothing like, what is written in your new testament quran. or any of the other, new testaments of men.

and i am aksing you, to personally stop your blastphemy. blastphemy against my HOLY HOLY PARENT with your muslem ways of lying. cause you won't find what G-D, came and told me in any of this worlds new testament new world books. and i am not naked if i now only use and trust, TheTorah G-D gave to me personally.

i did not even read, THE WRITTEN TORAH. untill after the second encounter with G-D. to discover it is in total agreement, with what HaShem G-D came and said to me over fifty years earlier. and it is all coming true, just like it says in TheTorah. for we are all here, in TheTorah happening again from G-D.

and i would rather be, giving a good message. rather than the bad message, you all and your grandmother as chaooah are again. with this whole world, failing to believe in G-D, here in TheLiving Torah just again.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#166502 Mar 9, 2013
Father IN Heaven that he created!
Inside the system?
Yes he is a man.
lol..

Since: Apr 11

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#166503 Mar 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Off-Topic!
That is a huge pile of Horse Shit topped up with Bull Shit and Cow Dung, Shamma.
Address the absurd verses by the two clueless fools. Matthew in 28:19 and Luke in Acts 2:38
HERE IS WHY WE MUST BE BAPTIZED IN THE
NAME OF THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY Spirit
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit".
– Matthew 28:19.

baptism banner The Bible commands water baptism for the New Testament church, and it is our responsibility to obey this teaching. One day each of us will account for our actions during our lives. Since we have God's Word, ignorance will not be an acceptable excuse on that day.

The Necessity of Water Baptism

Is water baptism a necessary part of the salvation experience of the New Testament? People have various ideas about water baptism, but we cannot always trust and to please God is to depend upon the Bible as our source of instruction.

Jesus gave us some insight as to the importance of water baptism in John 3:5: Jesus answered, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God." Both the context of that statement and the subsequent practice of the New Testament church indicate that He was speaking of water baptism and the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

In Matthew 28:19, Jesus gave the apostles and us a direct command to go, teach, and baptize converts. Since He gave this command, baptism is important and necessary.
The Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit

Jesus instructed us to baptize "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." In other words, He told us to baptize in the name (singular) that fully reveals God in His redemptive manifestations and work.
What is this name?

The name given to the Son of God was Jesus. "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins" (Matthew 1:21).

Jesus was a genuine human being, born by the miraculous work of God's Spirit in the womb of a virgin, and thus He was literally the Son of God (Luke 1:35). He was more than a man, however; He was actually the one God manifested in the flesh (Colossians 2:9). He was the visible image of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15).

As such Jesus declared, "I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive" (John 5:43). In other words, the Father is made known to us by the name of Jesus. The Father, the one true invisible God, gave His name to the Son (the manifestation of God in flesh)l thus the Son received His name by inheritance (Hebrews 1:4).

The name Jesus literally means "Jehovah Savior." Jehovah was the unique name by which the one true God identified Himself to Israel in the Old Testament. The name Jesus describes the one God of the Old Testament coming in flesh to be our Savior. Thus the name of Jesus reveals both the Father and the Son.

What about the Holy Spirit? What name reveals God in His spiritual essence and action? Jesus said, "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you" (John 14:26). In other words, the Holy Spirit comes to us in the name of Jesus. The Holy Spirit does not come to us with a separate identity but is the Spirit of Jesus-Jesus Himself coming to dwell within us spiritually (John 14:16-18; Colossians 1:27).

In short, the supreme name that reveals God-the name by which we know the Father, Son and Holy Spirit-is Jesus. By invoking the name of Jesus, then, we fulfill the command of Matthew 28:19.
The Importance of the Name of Jesus
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#166504 Mar 9, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
ALLAH is the TRUE GOD.
Your g-d serves only one tribe.
Prove to me this is not the case.
your mini g-d also insists on getting petty names right!!
who cares about names dear jimmie boswell?
rabbee: i do not believe you, just because you say so.

and i do not represent any one tribe, i represent G-D and the whole world here in TheTorah. in case you have not figured it out, i adam and my mate gave birth to all of you, the last two Torot times. so therefor i TheHisSon adam, do not claim to be jew, christian, athiest, race, pagan, or muslem. i reject all of your new testaments, new world order not here in TheTorah religions.

and like Moshe, also had a worldly name so do i. nothing new about, any of this. as even my worldly given adoptive names meanings, has some supprizes in it too. and the fact of the matter is, real truth is far stranger than even real fiction. none of what i am teaching, here in TheTorah. came from anywhere in this world again, cause i got it all from G-D OF BOTH HIMELSVES. i did not get anything from an angel, like muhammed did. This comes directly, from G-D HIMSELVES. from RUACH FATHER THE HER RUACH HAKODESH, TO TheHisSon here in TheStory again.

you can lie all you want, bearing your nothing but not here in TheTorah false wittness. but i am here, in TheStory of ThePhysical Creation again, all from my KODESH-PARENT. this world is full of liars, and your being just another liar is not becomming to anyone. and there does come a time, when no amount of repentance is going to, save you, your children, or their children.

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#166505 Mar 9, 2013
Continued:
HERE IS WHY WE MUST BE BAPTIZED IN THE
NAME OF THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY Spirit
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit".
– Matthew 28:19.
Many passages of Scripture emphasize the importance and supremacy of the name of Jesus. "Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12).
"Repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem'(Luke 24:47).
"To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins" (Acts 10:43).
"Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they" (Hebrews 1:4).
"Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name; that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of the things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" (Philippians 2:9-11).
"And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him" (Colossians 3:17).
The Practice of the Early Church
How did the apostles obey the command Jesus gave to them in Matthew 28:19? On the Day of Pentecost, sinners asked the question, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?" (Acts 2:37). The apostle Peter gave them the answer: "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:38). This verse reveals that the apostles baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and that baptism is for the remission of sins.
When Saul, later known as Paul, repented, Ananias instructed him, "And now why tarriest thou? Arise and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord" What is the name of the Lord?
Just a few days earlier, Paul had asked the same question: "Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest" (Acts 9:5). Paul later wrote, "No man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit" (I Corinthians 12"3).
Jesus revealed Himself to Paul as the Lord. Paul knew about the Lord God of the Old Testament, but at that time he did not serve the Jesus of the New Testament. But he learned that the Lord of the Old Testament was the same Lord of the New Testament, and to his amazement the one Lord was Jesus.
When Philip preached the gospel in Samaria, those who believed "were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus (Acts 8:16).
When a group of Gentiles received the Holy Spirit, Peter asked, "Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Spirit as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord" (Acts 10:47-48). As we have just seen, the name of the Lord is Jesus. Moreover, as translations such as the Amplified Bible and the New International Version indicate, the oldest Greek manuscripts we now have actually state here, "in the name of Jesus Christ."
Paul re-baptized the disciples of John at Ephesus in the name of Jesus. "He said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus" (Acts 19:3-5).
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#166506 Mar 9, 2013
i shall represent with G-D any one, who lays claim to me as their grandfather adam here in TheTorah again. but i shall reject all those, who reject me as their grandfather adam here in TheTorah again. as i may even accept a maybe so, according to my own judgement.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166507 Mar 9, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
HERE IS WHY WE MUST BE BAPTIZED IN THE
NAME OF THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY Spirit
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit".
– Matthew 28:19.
baptism banner The Bible commands water baptism for the New Testament church, and it is our responsibility to obey this teaching. One day each of us will account for our actions during our lives. Since we have God's Word, ignorance will not be an acceptable excuse on that day.
The Necessity of Water Baptism
Is water baptism a necessary part of the salvation experience of the New Testament? People have various ideas about water baptism, but we cannot always trust and to please God is to depend upon the Bible as our source of instruction.
Jesus gave us some insight as to the importance of water baptism in John 3:5: Jesus answered, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God." Both the context of that statement and the subsequent practice of the New Testament church indicate that He was speaking of water baptism and the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
In Matthew 28:19, Jesus gave the apostles and us a direct command to go, teach, and baptize converts. Since He gave this command, baptism is important and necessary.
The Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
Jesus instructed us to baptize "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." In other words, He told us to baptize in the name (singular) that fully reveals God in His redemptive manifestations and work.
What is this name?
The name given to the Son of God was Jesus. "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins" (Matthew 1:21).
Jesus was a genuine human being, born by the miraculous work of God's Spirit in the womb of a virgin, and thus He was literally the Son of God (Luke 1:35). He was more than a man, however; He was actually the one God manifested in the flesh (Colossians 2:9). He was the visible image of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15).
As such Jesus declared, "I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive" (John 5:43). In other words, the Father is made known to us by the name of Jesus. The Father, the one true invisible God, gave His name to the Son (the manifestation of God in flesh)l thus the Son received His name by inheritance (Hebrews 1:4).
The name Jesus literally means "Jehovah Savior." Jehovah was the unique name by which the one true God identified Himself to Israel in the Old Testament. The name Jesus describes the one God of the Old Testament coming in flesh to be our Savior. Thus the name of Jesus reveals both the Father and the Son.
What about the Holy Spirit? What name reveals God in His spiritual essence and action? Jesus said, "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you" (John 14:26). In other words, the Holy Spirit comes to us in the name of Jesus. The Holy Spirit does not come to us with a separate identity but is the Spirit of Jesus-Jesus Himself coming to dwell within us spiritually (John 14:16-18; Colossians 1:27).
In short, the supreme name that reveals God-the name by which we know the Father, Son and Holy Spirit-is Jesus. By invoking the name of Jesus, then, we fulfill the command of Matthew 28:19.
The Importance of the Name of Jesus
Again you unloaded a pile of horse shit!

How can you say that Jesus asked them to baptize in the name of the three, when Peter, baptized only in Jesus' name?

Which bloody fool was right? Peter or Matthew. By the time Matthew's junk verse 28:19 came, people had already been baptized in Jesus' name.

The point is that Matthew is a liar & Matthew 28:19 is a rotten forgery.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#166508 Mar 9, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>How nobel is your Isa that you ignore his commands, and degrade his words of God?
Your moral values are not based on the Teachings of God, rather they are based on the rapist, robber, and murderer Muhammad.
You live away of life serving the commands of Muhammad.
The problem is that your Bible does the job of degrading God and Jesus well. Believe me when I read your New Testament, I see Satan all over the pages.

What moral values those wretched men had, when they degraded God Almighty and made a man, who ate, shat and peed, God?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#166509 Mar 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
The entire NT is not only a Great Commission of Errors but it is also Comedy Central, bro.
See how the ignorant fools are avoiding an answer?
Peter had never heard of the so-called ridiculous Great Commission and baptized folks under Jesus' name only and 4-5 centuries later, the trinitarian crooks added that formula in Matthew 29:19 and I find it not only absurd but hilarious.
One must be baptized by the authority of Jesus' Name for all things must be asked for in Jesus' Name. You can not baptize by the authority of allah, which has no authority to forgive sins. The authority to baptize comes through Jesus' Name and the formula for baptizing is: "I baptize you in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit."
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#166510 Mar 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem is that your Bible does the job of degrading God and Jesus well. Believe me when I read your New Testament, I see Satan all over the pages.
What moral values those wretched men had, when they degraded God Almighty and made a man, who ate, shat and peed, God?
I don't read the koran because it is not from God, so why do you read the Holy Bible if you claim it's not from God? You read it because islam can not stand on its own two legs, so Christianity must be attacked instead. Why should anyone become a muslim and slave to some imaginary character from the 7th century?

Since: Apr 11

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#166511 Mar 9, 2013
Continued:
HERE IS WHY WE MUST BE BAPTIZED IN THE
NAME OF THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY Spirit
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit".
– Matthew 28:19.
The Command of Matthew 28:19
baptized into Jesus Christ Clearly the early church baptized everyone—Jews, Samaritans, and Gentiles—in the name of Jesus. How does this practice harmonize with Matthew 28:19? First, Matthew 28:19 "in the name" not "in the names" or "in the titles or offices of God." The name that Matthew 28:19 describes is Jesus. So the apostles correctly understood converts in the name of Jesus.
The Bible does not tell us that we have life through the titles of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but it tells us we have life through the name of Jesus. "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through His name" (John 20:31).
The Bible does not say that we are baptized into three different persons, but it says we are "baptized into Jesus Christ" (Romans 6:3-4). Specifically, we are "buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead" (Colossians 2:12).
Conclusion
Shortly before His ascension Jesus gave the baptismal command found in Matthew 28:19 to the apostles. According to Luke 24:45, He also opened their understanding. A few days after His ascension, He baptized 120 waiting disciples with His Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost. On this occasion, the apostles proclaimed to the multitude that everyone should be baptized in the name of Jesus ( Acts2:38).
The apostles understood that Jesus was the redemptive name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They did not merely repeat those three titles, but they invoked the name to which those titles referred. The other preachers in the New Testament church, such as Philip, Ananias, and Paul, adhered to the same baptismal formula.
There are no contradictions in the Word of God. The New Testament teaches that we must be baptized "in the name" of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and the name we are to invoke at baptism is Jesus.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#166512 Mar 9, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
HERE IS WHY WE MUST BE BAPTIZED IN THE
NAME OF THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY Spirit
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit".
– Matthew 28:19...
Matt was copied from Mark and vague reference to Baptism in longer ending Mark 16:9-20 is inadequate.
Do you not accept the FACt that Matt was almost wholesale copy of mark?
These are not from God.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#166513 Mar 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem is that your Bible does the job of degrading God and Jesus well. Believe me when I read your New Testament, I see Satan all over the pages.
What moral values those wretched men had, when they degraded God Almighty and made a man, who ate, shat and peed, God?
You can not stand the Bible because it shows Muhammad is no prophet of God.

You are a Muhammadan.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#166514 Mar 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem is that your Bible does the job of degrading God and Jesus well. Believe me when I read your New Testament, I see Satan all over the pages.
What moral values those wretched men had, when they degraded God Almighty and made a man, who ate, shat and peed, God?
Let's see you try to sell islam to a nonmuslim.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#166518 Mar 9, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't read the koran because it is not from God, so why do you read the Holy Bible if you claim it's not from God? You read it because islam can not stand on its own two legs, so Christianity must be attacked instead. Why should anyone become a muslim and slave to some imaginary character from the 7th century?
I really should not be rude to you....but you ocntinue to be a clown.
- You have not produced a SINGLE original NT from anywhere.
- Your god's books are constantly being updated and changed. They are doing it right now.
- There is NOT a single version in English that is earlier than the 1600's!
- Quran has been around for nearly 1400 years in its present form!

- Surely, you can produce something as old as the Quran?
- Point me in the right direction please.

Please stop hiding behind the JEWISH books that have nothing to do with you.

Perhaps...
The New Testament
Written in Koiné Greek, the everyday language of the Greek-speaking (Eastern) parts of the Roman Empire. This is similar to the Greek of Plato and Aristotle but simpler and with some new words. A vast number of other books, papyri, etc., survive that are also written in Koiné Greek.

Different NT writers have different styles. The Gospels use a Greek sentence structure that resembles Hebrew or Aramaic, as if the writers were more familiar with these languages, or were working from Hebrew or Aramaic notes.(Jews, including Jesus, used Aramaic for everyday speech but would also know Greek and possibly Latin.)
????
< 100 A.D. original composition

c. 200 A.D. numerous papyrus fragments; first Latin and Syriac translations

400 A.D. widely distributed Latin translation (Vulgate)

c. 500 earliest surviving complete texts (codices)

hmmm......

How about the English ones? There are many versions giving many meanings

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