Who Is Allah?

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

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You take a Jewish G-d and divide him into father, son and mother(now ghost!).
lovely indeed....
Now that you have taught the Jews about their G-d, why not work on the Hindus?
Take all their gods and make a triune out of them too!!
The problem is that the pagans could not sell their god..so they stole the Jewish g-d circumcised him and killed him!

Not true Alex.
Killing innocent people that love and serve God is what Muslims do.

Every day somewhere in the world Muslims are murdering innocent people that love and serve God.

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

Did his foreskin rise?
where is it?

That is all Muslims think of is some ones penis.

Lawyer hopes Catholic Church abuse claims will lead to legal change
STV 9 March 2013 18:02 GMT
Cameron Fyfe: Six clients making abuse claims.STV

A leading Scottish solicitor believes a change to the law making it easier for sexual abuse victims to claim compensation could be considered in light of fresh allegations against the Catholic Church.

Cameron Fyfe is acting on behalf of six clients who claim they were abused by priests, two of whom came forward in the weeks since Cardinal Keith O'Brien resigned after admitting sexual misconduct.

It follows reports that bishops in the Scottish Catholic Church knew of 20 allegations of child sex abuse between 1985 and 1995.

Mr Fyfe said: "I'm acting for six clients who allege they were abused by priests, some in the 1980s, some in the 1990s. One we have raised a court action over in the Court of Session and one we're just about to raise a court action over. The other four we're currently investigating.

"Two of the victims were abused in the early 1980s, two towards the end of the 1980s, and two relatively recently in the mid-1990s. Two say they were raped by the priest in question; the others suffered serious sexual abuse.”

Mr Fyfe complained that the “time bar” in Scots law, which gives claimants a set period of time in which they must raise an action, was unfair.
..........
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/03/c...

CARDINAL Keith O'Brien ADMITS and apologises for SEXUAL MISCONDUCT.

UK CATHOLIC LEADER (!!!!) who was FORCED to RESIGN early by the POPE ADMITS in statement that his sexual conduct 'fell below standards'

Severin Carrell, Scotland correspondent
The Guardian, Sunday 3 March 2013 20.47 GMT

CARDINAL KEITH O'BRIEN
Cardinal Keith O'Brien, who was forced to resign, has released a statement admitting and apologising for his sexual conduct.

Cardinal Keith O'Brien, who was forced to resign by the pope last week, has made a dramatic admission that he was guilty of sexual misconduct throughout his career in the Roman Catholic church.

In a short but far-reaching statement issued late on Sunday, the 74-year-old stated that "there have been times that my sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest, archbishop and cardinal".

The former archbishop of St Andrews and Edinburgh, and UNTIL RECENTLY THE MOST SENIOR CATHOLIC in BRITAIN, apologised and asked for forgiveness from those he had "offended" and from the entire church.

O'Brien was forced to resign last week by Pope Benedict XVI, barely 36 hours after the Observer disclosed that three serving priests and a former priest were accusing him of "inappropriate acts" against them nearly 30 years ago, in a formal complaint to the pope's ambassador to the UK.

The CARDINAL HAD "contested" those allegations (LIAR...LIAR...LIAR!!!), while his officials said he was taking legal advice.

But NOW O'Brien has effectively ADMITTED (LIAR CAUGHT WITH PANTS DOWN!!!!!) he had been breaching the church's strict rules on celibacy and its bar on homosexuality since he became a priest – and during his 10 years as a cardinal.

It was alleged that some of these incidents were "drunken fumblings". One case reported by the Observer involved repeated sexual contact.

On Friday, there were claims that complaints had been made to the nuncio, Archbishop Antonio Mennini, by a fifth priest last year, about an alleged incident in 2001.

Announcing that he would now retire entirely from public life and from the frontline duties for the church he once led, O'Brien said: "In recent days certain allegations which have been made against me have become public. Initially, their anonymous and non-specific nature led me to contest them.

"However, I wish to take this opportunity to admit that there have been times that my sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest, archbishop and cardinal.

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

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Matt was copied from Mark and vague reference to Baptism in longer ending Mark 16:9-20 is inadequate.
Do you not accept the FACt that Matt was almost wholesale copy of mark?
These are not from God.

Whether it was copied or not Alex, its the word of God.

Jesus is the Son of God Alex, He came to die for your sake on the cross.

Shamma wrote:

<quoted text>That is all Muslims think of is some ones penis.

I am very sorry...but you have ALL seen him rise and he was naked.
What happened to his foreskin that was removed when he was an eight day old baby?
Your god left his foreskin behind and ran off to heaven?
The rising is incomplete.

Paul WV wrote:

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Women go to paradise to enjoy what? Do women in paradise wear burkas? Are they allowed to talk to men other than their family?

you fool...
Muslim women go to enjoy but your women don't go to heaven.
Catholic church is still debating over women and if they have a soul!!!
your shortsighted "god" cursed women.
Paradise is a place of fun...as many women and men as they please.
You can watch from hell because you promote SATAN worship in the form of a naked pagan.
save yourself...run!

Shamma wrote:

<quoted text>Whether it was copied or not Alex, its the word of God.
Jesus is the Son of God Alex, He came to die for your sake on the cross.

skeptic..you continue to lie.
Matt was copied from Mark that has well accepted insertions through 16:9-12!
These are NOT from God.
These are from EVIL liars.
You will end up in hell for promoting lies.

Matt was copied from Mark and vague reference to Baptism in longer ending Mark 16:9-20 is inadequate.
Do you not accept the FACT that Matt was almost wholesale copy of mark?

bmz wrote:

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Again you unloaded a pile of horse shit!
How can you say that Jesus asked them to baptize in the name of the three, when Peter, baptized only in Jesus' name?
Which bloody fool was right? Peter or Matthew. By the time Matthew's junk verse 28:19 came, people had already been baptized in Jesus' name.
The point is that Matthew is a liar & Matthew 28:19 is a rotten forgery.

Its horses shit to pagan Muhammadan's.
You did not read the post.
There is no contradiction.

Jesus received His name From God the Father.
Jesus is Gods Son.
Jesus Commanded the Apostles to baptize all nations in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus said all must be baptized with water and the Spirit.

Shamma wrote:

<quoted text>No, they are not Alex, as a Muslim your lying is part of your worship to your pagan moon god Allah.

You worship sungod with halo and even the crown of thorn is a representation of sun's rays. All the statues and "erections" in the catholic inner sanctum are pagan. even peter is a pagan statue!
your festivals are pagan.
you drink human blood and eat human flesh...cannibal!

- You have not produced a SINGLE original NT from anywhere.
- Your god's books are constantly being updated and changed. They are doing it right now.
- There is NOT a single version in English that is earlier than the 1600's!
- Quran has been around for nearly 1400 years in its present form!
- Surely, you can produce something as old as the Quran?
- Point me in the right direction please.
Please stop hiding behind the JEWISH books that have nothing to do with you.
Perhaps...
The New Testament
Written in Koiné Greek, the everyday language of the Greek-speaking (Eastern) parts of the Roman Empire. This is similar to the Greek of Plato and Aristotle but simpler and with some new words. A vast number of other books, papyri, etc., survive that are also written in Koiné Greek.
Different NT writers have different styles. The Gospels use a Greek sentence structure that resembles Hebrew or Aramaic, as if the writers were more familiar with these languages, or were working from Hebrew or Aramaic notes.(Jews, including Jesus, used Aramaic for everyday speech but would also know Greek and possibly Latin.)
????
< 100 A.D. original composition
c. 200 A.D. numerous papyrus fragments; first Latin and Syriac translations
400 A.D. widely distributed Latin translation (Vulgate)
c. 500 earliest surviving complete texts (codices)
hmmm......
How about the English ones? There are many versions giving many meanings

Shamma wrote:

<quoted text>Whether it was copied or not Alex, its the word of God.
Jesus is the Son of God Alex, He came to die for your sake on the cross.

Who died? God or Jesus?
God CANNOT die.
Jesus the man can die and it is no big deal.
But what happened to his foreskin?
did it rise with him?

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

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you fool...
Muslim women go to enjoy but your women don't go to heaven.
Catholic church is still debating over women and if they have a soul!!!
your shortsighted "god" cursed women.
Paradise is a place of fun...as many women and men as they please.
You can watch from hell because you promote SATAN worship in the form of a naked pagan.
save yourself...run!

No Alex.
Its a sin to lie like you do Alex
Muhammad is burning in hell because he told lies like you do

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

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You worship sungod with halo and even the crown of thorn is a representation of sun's rays. All the statues and "erections" in the catholic inner sanctum are pagan. even peter is a pagan statue!
your festivals are pagan.
you drink human blood and eat human flesh...cannibal!
- You have not produced a SINGLE original NT from anywhere.
- Your god's books are constantly being updated and changed. They are doing it right now.
- There is NOT a single version in English that is earlier than the 1600's!
- Quran has been around for nearly 1400 years in its present form!
- Surely, you can produce something as old as the Quran?
- Point me in the right direction please.
Please stop hiding behind the JEWISH books that have nothing to do with you.
Perhaps...
The New Testament
Written in Koiné Greek, the everyday language of the Greek-speaking (Eastern) parts of the Roman Empire. This is similar to the Greek of Plato and Aristotle but simpler and with some new words. A vast number of other books, papyri, etc., survive that are also written in Koiné Greek.
Different NT writers have different styles. The Gospels use a Greek sentence structure that resembles Hebrew or Aramaic, as if the writers were more familiar with these languages, or were working from Hebrew or Aramaic notes.(Jews, including Jesus, used Aramaic for everyday speech but would also know Greek and possibly Latin.)
????
< 100 A.D. original composition
c. 200 A.D. numerous papyrus fragments; first Latin and Syriac translations
400 A.D. widely distributed Latin translation (Vulgate)
c. 500 earliest surviving complete texts (codices)
hmmm......
How about the English ones? There are many versions giving many meanings

rabbee: no text with the letter j, can be over 940 man years old. and chances are it is, a lot less old than that. so everything you say, is suspect as propaganda misinformation and misdirection.

Allah is a delusion, created by the schizophrenic mind of Mohammed, who was nothing but a excuse for Muslim men to treat there woman like scum.

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

<quoted text>
You worship sungod with halo and even the crown of thorn is a representation of sun's rays. All the statues and "erections" in the catholic inner sanctum are pagan. even peter is a pagan statue!
your festivals are pagan.
you drink human blood and eat human flesh...cannibal!
- You have not produced a SINGLE original NT from anywhere.
- Your god's books are constantly being updated and changed. They are doing it right now.
- There is NOT a single version in English that is earlier than the 1600's!
- Quran has been around for nearly 1400 years in its present form!
- Surely, you can produce something as old as the Quran?
- Point me in the right direction please.
Please stop hiding behind the JEWISH books that have nothing to do with you.
Perhaps...
The New Testament
Written in Koiné Greek, the everyday language of the Greek-speaking (Eastern) parts of the Roman Empire. This is similar to the Greek of Plato and Aristotle but simpler and with some new words. A vast number of other books, papyri, etc., survive that are also written in Koiné Greek.
Different NT writers have different styles. The Gospels use a Greek sentence structure that resembles Hebrew or Aramaic, as if the writers were more familiar with these languages, or were working from Hebrew or Aramaic notes.(Jews, including Jesus, used Aramaic for everyday speech but would also know Greek and possibly Latin.)
????
< 100 A.D. original composition
c. 200 A.D. numerous papyrus fragments; first Latin and Syriac translations
400 A.D. widely distributed Latin translation (Vulgate)
c. 500 earliest surviving complete texts (codices)
hmmm......
How about the English ones? There are many versions giving many meanings

Wake up Alex.
You talk with a dumb mind.
The Quran tells Muslims to read the Christian Bible Alex.
http://answering-islam.org/Green/onbible.htm

bmz wrote:

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Muhammad's message was simple: There is only one LORD God Almighty.
The gospels are full of lies. The noble son of Mary is shown as a self-loather and the man was turned into God after he was gone, became dust and bones. You call that truth?

No.
Mad mo the raping butchering paedophile had a sinister message: That he, a despicable criminal, was somehow the last and only reliable prophet and that he owned god and anybody who did not obey his tyranny would be murdered and the rest of humanity enslaved.
Mad Mo did not preach one god, he preached allah the moon god as the chief god. Only later did fanatic muztards eliminate all the other Arab gods.
Christ was superior in character to mad mo in every way.

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

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you fool...
Muslim women go to enjoy but your women don't go to heaven.
Catholic church is still debating over women and if they have a soul!!!
your shortsighted "god" cursed women.
Paradise is a place of fun...as many women and men as they please.
You can watch from hell because you promote SATAN worship in the form of a naked pagan.
save yourself...run!

So by enjoy you mean they can fornicate all they want; with whomever they want?

Since the body is rottening in the grave what is in paradise enjoying all this sex? When a sucide bomber blows himself to pieces, does allah put all the pieces back together again in paradise?

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

Lawyer hopes Catholic Church abuse claims will lead to legal change
STV 9 March 2013 18:02 GMT
Cameron Fyfe: Six clients making abuse claims.STV
A leading Scottish solicitor believes a change to the law making it easier for sexual abuse victims to claim compensation could be considered in light of fresh allegations against the Catholic Church.
Cameron Fyfe is acting on behalf of six clients who claim they were abused by priests, two of whom came forward in the weeks since Cardinal Keith O'Brien resigned after admitting sexual misconduct.
It follows reports that bishops in the Scottish Catholic Church knew of 20 allegations of child sex abuse between 1985 and 1995.
Mr Fyfe said: "I'm acting for six clients who allege they were abused by priests, some in the 1980s, some in the 1990s. One we have raised a court action over in the Court of Session and one we're just about to raise a court action over. The other four we're currently investigating.
"Two of the victims were abused in the early 1980s, two towards the end of the 1980s, and two relatively recently in the mid-1990s. Two say they were raped by the priest in question; the others suffered serious sexual abuse.”
Mr Fyfe complained that the “time bar” in Scots law, which gives claimants a set period of time in which they must raise an action, was unfair.
..........
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/03/c...
CARDINAL Keith O'Brien ADMITS and apologises for SEXUAL MISCONDUCT.
UK CATHOLIC LEADER (!!!!) who was FORCED to RESIGN early by the POPE ADMITS in statement that his sexual conduct 'fell below standards'
Severin Carrell, Scotland correspondent
The Guardian, Sunday 3 March 2013 20.47 GMT
CARDINAL KEITH O'BRIEN
Cardinal Keith O'Brien, who was forced to resign, has released a statement admitting and apologising for his sexual conduct.
Cardinal Keith O'Brien, who was forced to resign by the pope last week, has made a dramatic admission that he was guilty of sexual misconduct throughout his career in the Roman Catholic church.
In a short but far-reaching statement issued late on Sunday, the 74-year-old stated that "there have been times that my sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest, archbishop and cardinal".
The former archbishop of St Andrews and Edinburgh, and UNTIL RECENTLY THE MOST SENIOR CATHOLIC in BRITAIN, apologised and asked for forgiveness from those he had "offended" and from the entire church.
O'Brien was forced to resign last week by Pope Benedict XVI, barely 36 hours after the Observer disclosed that three serving priests and a former priest were accusing him of "inappropriate acts" against them nearly 30 years ago, in a formal complaint to the pope's ambassador to the UK.
The CARDINAL HAD "contested" those allegations (LIAR...LIAR...LIAR!!!), while his officials said he was taking legal advice.
But NOW O'Brien has effectively ADMITTED (LIAR CAUGHT WITH PANTS DOWN!!!!!) he had been breaching the church's strict rules on celibacy and its bar on homosexuality since he became a priest – and during his 10 years as a cardinal.
It was alleged that some of these incidents were "drunken fumblings". One case reported by the Observer involved repeated sexual contact.
On Friday, there were claims that complaints had been made to the nuncio, Archbishop Antonio Mennini, by a fifth priest last year, about an alleged incident in 2001.
Announcing that he would now retire entirely from public life and from the frontline duties for the church he once led, O'Brien said: "In recent days certain allegations which have been made against me have become public. Initially, their anonymous and non-specific nature led me to contest them.
"However, I wish to take this opportunity to admit that there have been times that my sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest, archbishop and cardinal.

Muslims approve it

Muslim law permits pedophiles.
Its legal to rape children under Islam law.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophili...

Paul WV wrote:

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I am still waiting, now days, for a definition of a "non-scriptural language". You make up stuff thinking you are some kind of expert on "scriptural language". So, far I am not impressed; you need to try harder.

A scriptural language is the native text.

There it is. The definition you were waiting for.

BMZ and MUQ are Arabic speakers - Arabic is similar to Hebrew, the native text. Like Portuguese vs Spanish.

Pedophilia in the Qur'an
Main article: Pedophilia in the Qur'an

The Qur'an permits pedophilia. The following Qur'anic verse allows sex with pre-pubescent girls who have not yet menstruated.
And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.
Qur'an 65:4

What is being discussed is the Iddat (&#1575;&#1604;&#1 593;&#1583;&#1577; &#8206;), which is a waiting period a female must observe before she can remarry. According to this verse, the stipulated waiting period for a divorced girl who has not yet menstruated is three months.
Muhammad Fits the Clinical Definition of a Pedophile

Main Articles: Aisha's Age of Consummation and Responses to Apologetics: Muhammad and Aisha

Muhammad was a pedophile, even according to the most stringent clinical definition of pedophilia - the DSM-IV-TR:
A. Over a period of at least six months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger).

B. The person has acted on these sexual urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies caused marked distress or interpersonal difficulty.

C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.

Note: This does not include an individual in late adolescence involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12- or 13-year-old.
PsychiatryOnline - Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition

Muhammad was engaged to Aisha when she was only 6 year old and he was 51, and consummated the marriage while she was still pre-pubescent, aged 9 lunar years old. Thus he fulfilled all three requirements needed for a positive diagnosis.