Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256357 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#166342 Mar 8, 2013
bmz wrote:
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I don't see God saying that anywhere in the gospels. Where did you read that? In the so-called Sacred Traditions?
This quote comes from Psalm 16:10.

See also Acts 2:25-32 and Acts 13:35-37.

On the road to Emmaus Jesus opened the Scriptures to His disciples and explained to them how they told of Him from the beginning.

http://bible.cc/psalms/16-10.htm
bmz

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#166343 Mar 8, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Gods truth cannot be distorted.
The NT is Gods last spoken words to man.
God's truth has already been distorted. The problem is that the lies ahve become a norm and ahve been accepted. Now, he Church cannot write the truth and cannot go back to truth.

The NT is not God's spoken words to men. We do not see God talking at all to Jesus in the book, so how can you say God spoke to men?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#166344 Mar 8, 2013
bmz wrote:
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I have already read and studied the New Testament thoroughly more than 30 times. That is whay I am able to show the absurdities so easily.
You have not. So, please start reading the gospels first.
You don't go by what the Gospel say but only what an uneducated 7th century war lord said. Jesus died on the cross, laid three days in the tomb and on the third day an angel rolled back the stone to the tomb and Jesus' resurrection was witnessed by the Roman guards.

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#166345 Mar 8, 2013
Run around the kaaba
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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You don't need tv news to witness the killing of millions of Muslim men and women as terrorists!
You don't need tv news to witness the killing of millions of Jews as Christ killers!
The murderers are same people and the victims refuse to accept the lies about Jesus.
The mere FACT that we worship GOD and NOT a naked man on a pole is PROOF enough that Gabriel and in fact God have inspired Holy Prophet Muhammed pbuh.
You worship SATAN in the form of a naked pagan oozing off a phallic pole. you do know that your "cross" represents union between penis and vagina, I take it.
You can't produce ANY proof about Jesus being divine.
PROVE to us that your naked man is god!!
Why isn't your naked man saying anythng?
YOU WILL NEVER PRODUCE ANY PROOF THAT JESUS IS GOD!!!
PROVE to us the Mary is free from your traditional adam/eve sin!!
How was she made? Manufactured by Ford?
Run around the kaaba seven times Alex and kiss the Black Stone.
You are getting nowhere here on this thread.

All your post are bull-crap.

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#166346 Mar 8, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't see God saying that anywhere in the gospels. Where did you read that? In the so-called Sacred Traditions?
Because you are spiritually blind to Gods words in His Holy Bible.

If you want the truth then, I suggest you get down on your knee's and ask God to forgive you for you blasphemy of refuting to believe in His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, who God sent to suffer on the cross for your sins.

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#166347 Mar 8, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Go on then prove it!!
Also the Gospels ACCUSE Jews of MANY sins and thanks to these lovely books, the loving christians destroyed 90% of the Jewish race as CHRIST KILLERS.
QURAN does NOT give ANYBODY the right to have anyone killed or abused!
Once again your arguments are dumb..moot and mute!
There is NO proof whatsoever that BJ is god!!
lol..
PROVE IN JESUS' OWN WORDS THAT HE IS GOD..OR PLEASE GO AWAY AND BURY YOUR HEAD IN SHAME FOR HAVING WORSHIPPED A NAKED PAGAN ON A PHALLIC POLE.
MANY of your Popes encouraged the MURDER of MILLIONS of JEWS as CHRIST KILLERS. They also gave tacit approval to homosexuals.
Your popes have been committing adutery too.
Now that is reality.
Only your god the holy father and boss of holy church blesses pedo carninals!!
Muslims don't have popey leaders.
Who is the head of all muslims?
we know the head of all catholics...the POPE!!!LOL...
Those who call themselves muslims may commit sins although not yet as sinful as the loving "christians" who persecuted and murdered almost all Jews as Christ killers using a fake/evil doctrine.
Many "christian" men rape and murder every day. do you think the millions of rapes, robbery, theft and murders in christian america are carried out by non christians?
Muslims don't have godly popes to whom they bow down or worship. Muslims worship only Allah.
We are talking about your "holy" godly fathers!
The RC community goes to vatican to see the godly pope!!!
They are hero worshipping these middlemen.
so you are as usual comparing apples and pears...
Now let's ask you again...
What do you think of pedos in your "holy" church in vatican.
Why is your pope resigning?
Will holy ghost leave him?
Why is he scared to leave the vatican protection after "retiring"?
Does holy ghost retire too?
What do you think of the catholic church in UK in turmoil thanks to "alleged" pedo O'brien?
Is it true that your "holy" church wants normal red blooded men and women to be celibate...masturbators. Do they use every tunnel to find relief...little boys, other nuns/priests, prostitutes, rent boys, employees and anything that has an orfice?
Why is there a decline in the number of worshippers in your "holy" RCC?
The Gospels of Jesus Christ have already been proven true.
Jesus Christ died on the cross and is risen from the dead by the glory of God The Father of heaven and earth.

Glory be to God in the highest, for God has freed mankind from the bondage of sin through His Son Jesus Christ.

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#166348 Mar 8, 2013
The stolen stolen story of Adam and Eve from Gods Holy Bible and was corrupted by Muslims and placed in the Quran as being revelations from the unknown spirit Gabriel by Muhammad.
The corrupted Story Of Adam and Eve from the Quran

continued:
Adam and Eve felt shame. They turned to God in sincere repentance and God, The All-Forgiving, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful, forgave them. Islam clearly rejects the concept of original sin, or the notion that all humans are born sinners because of the actions of Adam. No human shall ever bear the burden of another (for God is The Just). Every human being is responsible for his or her actions and is born as a Muslim, pure and free from sin. It is important to note that Islam does not place the blame on Eve. Both Adam and Eve had free will. Both of them ate of the tree. Their sin and disobedience was a joint venture. Islam rejects the idea that women are wicked temptresses or cursed with the burden of menstruation and pain of childbirth due to the sin of Eve.
God removed Adam and Eve from Paradise and made them dwell on earth. God had earlier said to the angels that He was placing a new being on earth. Earth is where God, from the time of creation, in His timeless knowledge, wanted us to be.
The tell tale evidence that this version of Adam and Eve is stolen from Gods Holy Bible is that God did not create jinns.
jinns are from Muhammad's own occult worship of the pagan moon god Allah.
Occultism of Muhammad.
http://religionresearchinstitute.org/Mohammad...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#166349 Mar 8, 2013
uhuh wrote:
<quoted text>
R.Johanan said: For every verse which the minim/christians have taken as grounds for their heresy, a nearby verse refutes them, e.g.
Let Us come and confuse, "neredah ve-nabelah" (plural verb) their language (Gen 11:7)
but two verses before that it is written,
And came, "va-yered" (singular verb) YHWH to see the city (Gen 11:5)
-talmud Sanhedrin 38b
Uhuh--- "For every verse which the MINIM/christians have taken as grounds for their heresy, a nearby verse refutes them"

HughBe--- You need to understand that the "MINIM" Pharaoh in question i.e. R. Johanan is using his tools of DECEPTION and LIES to enslave the Jewish people.

It cannot be that one verse clearly says US(plural) and another uses what appears to be singular and the singular understanding is accepted and the OBVIOUS PLURAL is rejected.

Why not accept the PLURAL?

Why not ask, is the bible contradicting itself?

Why not ask, in what sense is Yahweh SINGULAR? Could it be in the same sense that a MAN and his WIFE=ONE?

What is the meaning of ONE? Is ONE singular or PLURAL?

God said "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be ONE flesh"

Yet they are TWO.

Who is God's COMPANION? Recall Zechariah 13:7?

Genesis 11:4 "And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top [may reach] unto heaven; and let US make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth."

Is it your understanding that ONE person embarked on building the city?

Note, the US is the same as when God said let US make man.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#166350 Mar 8, 2013
uhuh wrote:
<quoted text>
the minim/christians asked R.Simlai: Why is it written, Let Us make ("na'aseh" plural) man in Our image ("b'tzalmenu" plural)?(Gen 1:26)
He replied: Read the next verse it is written, And He created (va-yibra) instead of And They created (va-yibre'u), and in His image ("b'tzalmo" singular)
-Bereshit Rabbah
Uhuh---the minim/christians asked R.Simlai:

HughBe--- The MINIM Simlai is a DUNCE.

Uhuh---HE created (va-yibra) instead of And They created (va-yibre'u), and in HIS image ("b'tzalmo" singular)

HughBe---Simlai, the MINIM DUNCE, is saying that God is a HE. Simlai, being a MINIM DUNCE, did not realize the meaning of his words. His own words contradict the BS and LIE that is taught to the Jewish people.

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#166351 Mar 8, 2013
Muslim own corrupted version of Adam and Eve stolen and Corrupted and placed in the Quran by Muhammad.
Stolen from Gods Holy Bible and corrupted and placed in the Quran by Muhammad.
The Story Of Adam and Eve
The story of Adam and Eve is told in the Qur’an. Although it is similar in many ways to what is found in the surviving remnants of the previous scriptures, some important principles differ.
God announced to the angels that He was placing a new specie on earth. God created Adamp, fashioning him from clay. He breathed the soul into Adamp, taught him the names of all things, and created from the same soul his wife, Eve. God allowed them to dwell in Paradise with free will. God said to the angels,“Bow down to Adam”(They did so in a form of respect, not worship). Satan was present among the angels, though he was not one of them. He was of the jinn, a race of beings possessing free will that God created before Adamp from a smokeless flame of fire. When God ordered the angels and those in their company to bow down to Adamp, they all did so except Satan, who refused out of pride and arrogance, claiming to be better than Adamp because he was created from fire, whereas Adamp was created from clay. Indeed, Satan was the first racist.
Satan fell from God’s grace. God, The Reckoner, condemned him for his disobedience, but Satan, the accursed, asked God to give him respite until the Day of Judgment (resurrection), so he could make Adamp and his descendants unworthy. Satan said,“Verily I will mislead them and surely I will arouse in them vain desires.” God granted him this respite as a trial for humanity. God knows what Satan knows not. It is important to note that there is no way Satan could ever “war” with God, because just like everything else, he is God’s creation. Satan exists only by God’s will; he is completely under God’s power. If God did not want Satan or his helpers to exist, they would not be able to remain in existence for even a moment.
Islam does not give Satan any share of God’s divinity. It does not attribute to him any godlike or divine qualities. Islam rejects the notion that Satan went to war with God and took a third of the hosts of Heaven with him. Satan is an avowed enemy of humanity, but he is merely a creature, absolutely dependent upon God for his very existence.
Though prideful, accursed, and fallen from the grace of God, Satan serves a purpose. God wanted humans to have free choice between right and wrong. He granted human beings an innate ability to recognize The Creator and turn to Him. The human being is considered to be originally good by nature, born pure in the state of Islam (submission). Satan and his hosts order evil and oppose good, seeking to misguide humanity, his avowed enemy, into evil and idolatry, away from monotheism, righteousness, and the path of God. God, The All Wise, invites Muslims to enjoin good and forbid evil. Because we exercise free will, by resisting the temptation of Satan, humans can attain a great level of honor.
The following is a summary of the trial of Adam and Eve in Paradise: They enjoyed perfect freedom and happiness in Paradise. God told them to eat of the fruits of the Garden with pleasure and delight as they pleased. He forbade them from approaching one tree, and warned them that if they did, they will both be of the wrongdoers. Satan came and deceived them, saying that God only forbade them from eating of that tree because it would make them immortal or they would become like the angels. They were thus deceived by Satan and ate of the tree.

The tell tale evidence that this version of Adam and Eve is stolen from Gods Holy Bible and corrupted by Muslims is that God did not create jinns.

jinns are from Muhammad's own occult worship of the pagan moon god Allah.
Occultism of Muhammad.
http://religionresearchinstitute.org/Mohammad...
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#166352 Mar 8, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
This quote comes from Psalm 16:10.

See also Acts 2:25-32 and Acts 13:35-37.
On the road to Emmaus Jesus opened the Scriptures to His disciples and explained to them how they told of Him from the beginning.
http://bible.cc/psalms/16-10.htm
Most of the translations of of the Psalm 16 in the Christians' OT are twisted and distorted.

From the Jewish translation: "10. For You shall not forsake my soul to the grave; You shall not allow Your pious one to see the pit."

From Mechon Mamre: "For Thou wilt not abandon my soul to the nether-world; neither wilt Thou suffer Thy godly one to see the pit.

No "Holy One" in there. And that was not God but it was David, who was begging God.

Here is the forgery in King James Version: " For You will not leave my soul in Sheol,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption."

At least NIV was honest: "because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead, nor will you let your faithful one see decay." (No Holy One or Jesus in here)
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#166353 Mar 8, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Because you are spiritually blind to Gods words in His Holy Bible.
If you want the truth then, I suggest you get down on your knee's and ask God to forgive you for you blasphemy of refuting to believe in His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, who God sent to suffer on the cross for your sins.
I just showed a comparison of Psalm 16:10 in the post above. No 'Holy One" in there.:

If God had really begotten Jesus, God would have declared, I have begotten Jesus from Mary" but
there is no statement from Jesus saying, "I am the begotten son of God" or "God begat me".

So, when Jesus did not say that he was the begotten son of God, how could others?

I have already said that God sending Jesus to suffer on the cross for others' sins, is rubbish and absurd. There was no need to do that.

God is loving. Right? Why would God do such a silly and stupid thing?

God can do anything. Right? So a loving God could have simply forgiven everybody's sins, instead of subjecting Jesus to a ridiculous shame.

The sending of Jesus to suffer for no valid reason, shows that your God is neither love nor loving..
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#166354 Mar 8, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Muslim own corrupted version of Adam and Eve stolen and Corrupted and placed in the Quran by Muhammad.
Stolen from Gods Holy Bible and corrupted and placed in the Quran by Muhammad.

The story of Adam and Eve is told in the Qur’an. Although it is similar in many ways to what is found in the surviving remnants of the previous scriptures, some important principles differ.
God announced to the angels that He was placing a new specie on earth. God created Adamp, fashioning him from clay. He breathed the soul into Adamp, taught him the names of all things, and created from the same soul his wife, Eve. God allowed them to dwell in Paradise with free will. God said to the angels,“Bow down to Adam”(They did so in a form of respect, not worship). Satan was present among the angels, though he was not one of them. He was of the jinn, a race of beings possessing free will that God created before Adamp from a smokeless flame of fire. When God ordered the angels and those in their company to bow down to Adamp, they all did so except Satan, who refused out of pride and arrogance, claiming to be better than Adamp because he was created from fire, whereas Adamp was created from clay. Indeed, Satan was the first racist.
Satan fell from God’s grace. God, The Reckoner, condemned him for his disobedience, but Satan, the accursed, asked God to give him respite until the Day of Judgment (resurrection), so he could make Adamp and his descendants unworthy. Satan said,“Verily I will mislead them and surely I will arouse in them vain desires.” God granted him this respite as a trial for humanity. God knows what Satan knows not. It is important to note that there is no way Satan could ever “war” with God, because just like everything else, he is God’s creation. Satan exists only by God’s will; he is completely under God’s power. If God did not want Satan or his helpers to exist, they would not be able to remain in existence for even a moment.
Islam does not give Satan any share of God’s divinity. It does not attribute to him any godlike or divine qualities. Islam rejects the notion that Satan went to war with God and took a third of the hosts of Heaven with him. Satan is an avowed enemy of humanity, but he is merely a creature, absolutely dependent upon God for his very existence.
Though prideful, accursed, and fallen from the grace of God, Satan serves a purpose. God wanted humans to have free choice between right and wrong. He granted human beings an innate ability to recognize The Creator and turn to Him. The human being is considered to be originally good by nature, born pure in the state of Islam (submission). Satan and his hosts order evil and oppose good, seeking to misguide humanity, his avowed enemy, into evil and idolatry, away from monotheism, righteousness, and the path of God. God, The All Wise, invites Muslims to enjoin good and forbid evil. Because we exercise free will, by resisting the temptation of Satan, humans can attain a great level of honor.
The following is a summary of the trial of Adam and Eve in Paradise: They enjoyed perfect freedom and happiness in Paradise. God told them to eat of the fruits of the Garden with pleasure and delight as they pleased. He forbade them from approaching one tree, and warned them that if they did, they will both be of the wrongdoers. Satan came and deceived them, saying that God only forbade them from eating of that tree because it would make them immortal or they would become like the angels. They were thus deceived by Satan and ate of the tree.
Satan never went to war against God. He rebelled. Adam and Eve made a mistake but God forgave them. God knew that Satan had deceived them.

Reference your tirade against Satan, you must know that Satan believes in God and knows God better than the Church. Once he knew that Jesus was not the son of God, he let Jesus go.

Under cross examination by Satan, Jesus refused twice to acknowledge that he was the son of God.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#166355 Mar 8, 2013
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/08/poll_support_...

Poll: Support for gay marriage up among Catholics

54 percent of Catholic voters say they support gay marriage

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#166356 Mar 8, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of the translations of of the Psalm 16 in the Christians' OT are twisted and distorted.
From the Jewish translation: "10. For You shall not forsake my soul to the grave; You shall not allow Your pious one to see the pit."
From Mechon Mamre: "For Thou wilt not abandon my soul to the nether-world; neither wilt Thou suffer Thy godly one to see the pit.
No "Holy One" in there. And that was not God but it was David, who was begging God.
Here is the forgery in King James Version: " For You will not leave my soul in Sheol,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption."
At least NIV was honest: "because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead, nor will you let your faithful one see decay." (No Holy One or Jesus in here)
Psalm 16:10

Kee, lo t'azov nafshi l'shoal
For you will not leave my soul to shoal (i.e the pit)

lo tetain hasdicha
you will not give the righteous

l'rot shachat
to see the end (i.e. decay)
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#166357 Mar 8, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I just showed a comparison of Psalm 16:10 in the post above. No 'Holy One" in there.:
If God had really begotten Jesus, God would have declared, I have begotten Jesus from Mary" but
there is no statement from Jesus saying, "I am the begotten son of God" or "God begat me".
So, when Jesus did not say that he was the begotten son of God, how could others?
I have already said that God sending Jesus to suffer on the cross for others' sins, is rubbish and absurd. There was no need to do that.
God is loving. Right? Why would God do such a silly and stupid thing?
God can do anything. Right? So a loving God could have simply forgiven everybody's sins, instead of subjecting Jesus to a ridiculous shame.
The sending of Jesus to suffer for no valid reason, shows that your God is neither love nor loving..
Yeah, that Psalm is mistranslated like the koran is using book instead of revelations or scripture. That is all you do, when you are backed into a cornor you claim the text is mistranslated.
As man evolved he came to know God and wanted to give God the best he had, but nothing man had to offer God was worthy of God, so God gave man the only thing worthy of Him to offer back to Him. What was this that was worthy of Him? God Himself, Jesus!!!
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#166358 Mar 8, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of the translations of of the Psalm 16 in the Christians' OT are twisted and distorted.
From the Jewish translation: "10. For You shall not forsake my soul to the grave; You shall not allow Your pious one to see the pit."
From Mechon Mamre: "For Thou wilt not abandon my soul to the nether-world; neither wilt Thou suffer Thy godly one to see the pit.
No "Holy One" in there. And that was not God but it was David, who was begging God.
Here is the forgery in King James Version: " For You will not leave my soul in Sheol,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption."
At least NIV was honest: "because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead, nor will you let your faithful one see decay." (No Holy One or Jesus in here)
Your argument is meaningless, since in Acts 2 and 13 the Christian community saw that it referred to Jesus and His resurrection. How did they come to know this? On the road to Emmaus Jesus opened the Scriptures to His disciples and explained how they refer to Him from the beginning.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#166359 Mar 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/0 8/poll_support_for_gay_marriag e_up_among_catholics/
Poll: Support for gay marriage up among Catholics
54 percent of Catholic voters say they support gay marriage
what is the population size for Catholics?

What was the sample size?

Was it 100?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#166360 Mar 8, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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what is the population size for Catholics?
What was the sample size?
Was it 100?
Again, you dont like the outcome so you attack the methods.

There is a science behind statistical sampling.

Of course that would not apply to you.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#166361 Mar 8, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Your argument is meaningless, since in Acts 2 and 13 the Christian community saw that it referred to Jesus and His resurrection. How did they come to know this? On the road to Emmaus Jesus opened the Scriptures to His disciples and explained how they refer to Him from the beginning.
Doesnt address the fact you use a lousy (or dishonest) translation.

Ironically Jesus would never have this problem - He spoke Aramaic - an offshoot of Hebrew.

be like Jesus

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