Who Is Allah?

[Frijoles]

MUQ wrote:

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Very few people (Jews and Christians) read their scriptures in their original language.

BS.

Torah is read in Hebrew in just about every synagogue.

[bmz]

Frijoles wrote:

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to get to the other side

Brilliant!

OH, I SPRAYED MY TEA!

As if there was no other Way!

Now that is what Jesus meant by his way which Thomas, Philip, Paul WV and Shamma, the Shaman could not comprehend!.

[bmz]

Shamma wrote:

It is through Jesus taking our sins on the cross that had no sin that makes Jesus Holy and acceptable to God. It is through Jesus redemption for us that our sins are blotted out in the eyes of God and are forgiven.

You have to go to Hell first! There is no other Way.

Look! Jesus went through hell and so will you. You have to follow his Way.

[Frijoles]

MUQ wrote:

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Very few people (Jews and Christians) read their scriptures in their original language.
A Muslims can immediately decode the above scene:
A "Voice" said "IQRA"
And he said "Ma ana BIQAR'"
Eqra of Hebrew and IQRA of Arabic mean the same thing "Read or recite".
One voice said "Read"
He said "What I read".
The same scene which was enacted in the cave of HIRA in Makkah when our prophet received the "First Revelation".
I dont know which Muslim inserted this verse in Holy Bible?

I dont where you are getting your transliterations or your translations but they are wrong

Isaiah 40/6

kol omar kra
a voice speaks "Proclaim!"

v'amar ma ekra
and he said "What shall I proclaim?"

NOTE the tenses and the imperative (MAAT was correct on this point, Uh Uh was incorrect). This exchange is in the active, not the passive. Grammar is there purposely.

[bmz]

rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:

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rabbee: to try and talk, the hell out of all of you today. even if this whole world, does not know where in the hell are we today.

Rabbee, I know. This world is also a beautiful hell.

[Frijoles]

And MUQ, not only is Torah read in Hebrew in every synagogue, but any Jew reaching Bar Mitzvah is expected to read from it and understand it.

Not just that, but in regular services, it is the congregation that reads from the Torah, not just the prayer leaders.

Now I know you can argue that there are many non practicing Jews that never learned Hebrew, but I can make the argument that there are many non religious or illiterate Muslims that cant read Arabic. Being that there are obviously millions more Muslims than Jews, it is obvious that there are millions more Arabic illiterate Muslims than Hebrew illiterate Jews.

[Frijoles]

bmz wrote:

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Brilliant!
OH, I SPRAYED MY TEA!
As if there was no other Way!
Now that is what Jesus meant by his way which Thomas, Philip, Paul WV and Shamma, the Shaman could not comprehend!.

It was meant to be a light but sarcastic comment

Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side.

[bmz]

Shamma wrote:

Muhammad the borrower
http://answering-islam.org/Silas/borrowing.ht...

Can you please tell Silas that Christianity borrowed the entire books, which form your OT, from the poor copies produced by and for pagans?

On top of that, those poor translations were butchered and forged!

Christianity and her Church are the ones, who not only borrowed everything but also plagiarized and forged others' Holy Scriptures to build up your fraud and an adulterated God!

[bmz]

Shamma wrote:

<quoted text>The focus of the Holy Bible is God.
If God does not impress you, then what does?

Please do not misinform the readers.

The focus of your Bible is Jesus, not God.

It is not God that impresses a Christian. Only Jesus does that.

God plays second fiddle to Jesus in Christianity.

[bmz]

Shamma wrote:

<quoted text>Cool down rabbee.
You are speaking of things that is not mentioned in my post.
Question rabbe? How does one get yo heaven?
explain Gods pla for mans salvation?

Rabbee is always cool! I love Rabbee.

Now back to your question.

One has to go to hell first before one gets to heaven. This is known as Jesus' Way. That is the plan.

[Shamma]

bmz wrote:

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You have to go to Hell first! There is no other Way.
Look! Jesus went through hell and so will you. You have to follow his Way.

That is the Muslim way.
Jesus was no Muslim.

[bmz]

Shamma wrote:

<quoted text>That is the Muslim way.
Jesus was no Muslim.

No way! That is Jesus' Way.

Read again!

You have to go to Hell first! There is no other Way. After Jesus died, he went to hell first. Right?

So shall all of you. lol! You have to follow Jesus' Way.

[Christian]

JOEL wrote:

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Where is hell?
Is there one or many hells?
What is the basal nature of hell in terms of its substance and forces?
What're the phenomena and laws in hell?
How does hell connect with the universe since underlying diversity is unity.

There's no point in asking silly questions.

You Atheists have a very narrow world view, you don't have the capacity to comprehend the answers to your questions.

I would suggest you go back to the drawing board with your Scientific community and keep working on mapping a gene before you move on to big things like hell.

Scientists are very primitive, they haven't managed to move from the smallest known object and it's sound very foolish to ask big questions.

Go back and study molecules before you get ahead of yourself. Scientists will continue to be amazed and baffled by the simplest things of God's creation, like cells etc.

Your scientific community is completely lost and confused, they haven't moved off first base since they were created.

Come back when you learn the first thing then I will take you on your next baby step lol :-)

[Christian]

bmz wrote:

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Then why Jesus had to go to hell first? Wasn't he a believer?
That people will go to hell for not believing in Jesus, is absurd! Jesus never said that.

Jesus never went to hell, that is a Muslim lie.

Jesus did say that he was the only way that anyone could enter God's Kingdom.

There is only 2 places people will go after they die, hell or Heaven which is God's Kingdom.

It's a simple equation, all those who don't believe in Jesus will go to hell.

The HOLY BIBLE is the only reliable historical authority. I don't mean to be disrespectful but we have 100% evidence that every religion is false.

Religious people killed Jesus, He warned us about religious people. Christians are not religious, we have a personal relationship with our God and it has nothing to do with religion.

Jesus came to save sinners from the punishment we deserve. He had to come and suffer in our place because God wouldn't accept any sinners false penance.

I have seen people from every religion saved by Jesus, they are now Christians. Jesus owns Christians, He purchased us at a very high price. We no longer live according to our own will but we live according to Gods will.

There is nothing religious about the Christian faith, we don't do any religious things at all.

[uhuh]

Shamma wrote:

The idea of hell in your mind from the beginning was punishment of which is the wrong idea.
What Paul WV explained Hell-Limbo-Paradise was a place of death being separated from God.
Jesus went to the depths of Hell-Limbo-Paradise to rescue those that were righteous with God before their death, but were imprisoned there.
The gates of heaven were closed.
The wicked remained there for punishment.
Now after the death and resurrection of Jesus the gates of heaven are now open to those that accept Jesus, the Son of God as their savior.

so before Jesus The Gate came, Heaven above was locked and Hell below had no fire and all dead souls went to this fireless Hell

why was Elijah taken up to the sky (2Kings 2:11)? to a locked gate?

[Paul WV]

MUQ wrote:

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Why did Mary got alarmed when the angel of God appeared suddenly to her?
A prophet might not know about his mission till he is told. It is natural for any honest person to get alarmed by what sudden event meant.
The same was the condition of our prophet in initial encounter with angel Gabriel and it speaks about his innocence and truthful nature.
Later he got used to the visit of angel.
Why you people do not use your brains? and why you use it only in negative sense?
Did you see we Muslims using it in negative sense about Jesus, Moses, David , Solomon and other prophets of God?
But you people, you always think negative about our prophet and bring charges from no where and do not even reflect as to what you are saying or writing.

Did the spirit tell mohammad it was Gabriel or did some woman tell him? Chapter and verse will do, thank you.

[uhuh]

Frijoles wrote:

BS Torah is read in Hebrew in just about every synagogue. And MUQ, not only is Torah read in Hebrew in every synagogue, but in regular services, it is the congregation that reads from the Torah, not just the prayer leaders.

and don't forget to tell MUQ that upon completion of the annual cycle of Torah reading, the congregation sing and dance in a circle 7 times carrying Torah scrolls lol

[JOEL]

MAAT wrote:

Does the Old Testament satisfy this standard?

Is the Tanakh perfect?

[JOEL]

Christian wrote:

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I would suggest you go back to the drawing board with your Scientific community and keep working on mapping a gene before you move on to big things like hell.

So, I take it that you know the location of hell and its constitution in material and force terms.

Why not share the details with me?

I'm sure you'll do Jesus proud.

(smiles)

[JOEL]

uhuh wrote:

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Why was Elijah taken up to the sky (2Kings 2:11)? to a locked gate?

What's up there in the sky? Heaven?

LOL.