Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 202,145

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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#165616 Mar 1, 2013
Mengal wrote:
Mengal
Dear Shamma your post only indicates that there are two Gods one Father and the other Jesus you quote=
(Jesus has two natures. Jesus was not denying that He was God. He was merely acknowledging the fact that He was also a man. Jesus is both God and man.)
Dear then where gone your concept of trinity and trune God?
Please come to the truth and help the human brothers to the true and one God, The God of You ,us and universe come we all to help our those brothers who on account of Christianities distorted illogical belief and claim has became Atheist and Quoting religion as illogical or UN-acceptable, come to the final message of God(Allah) Quran which is free from such defects and distortions, which is pure and authentic state,Come and tell the world that There is no God except The God who is one and only, who having no son nor He himself having father or mother, He is the power and self subsisting, He needs no help He has created universe and also created us of His vicegerent on earth to represent Thy Majesty, all this which is on earth is for us but we are not for other creatures except Allah, Allah made us and bestows us from his own knowledge to deal the affairs of world He from Adam till final prophet sent guidance through His books and prophets Adm was first prophet then Noah, Again Abraham And Moses and Jesus were nothing But mightiest Messengers of God, Please give up bias and Hold the rope of God that is Islam- Quran , Islam is not new religion it is same which plead Adam, Noah ,Abraham Jesus and Moses the your God is one who has created you, you will be accountable to Him for your deeds and after death you will be asked about your acts and result will either Paradise or Hellfire, let see what usman say about trinity,on thrad Qadir mengal Miss understanding Islam
Muhammad is not a Prophet of God.
Muhammad demonstrates to intelligent people that he was narcissistic with the desire to be worshiped as a god.

Muhammad made things belong to him by just saying things belong to me.
He made the prophets of Gods Holy Bible the prophets of His religion of Islam just by saying they are Muslims.

Your post is evidence of that.
You mengal say the Quran is free from defects when it is not.

The Quran has been proven that Muhammad's revelations did not come to Muhammad from the God through the angel Gabriel.

Muhammad made up his own revelations and borrowed scripture from other religions.
That is a proven fact of which Muslims deny.

In other words mengal Muslims accept the insanity of Muhammad as holy, and give hero worship to a mad man.

The narcissistic personality of Muhammad refused to accept the truth
that Jesus is the Son of God, for that makes Muhammad lower then the Holiness of Jesus.

In Gods Holy Bible God reveals that: "God is Tri-une" a Holy Trinity.
Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and is referred to as the Divine nature of God.

The god Muhammad chose to worship is the pagan pantheism god of the pagan Arabs.
A moon god called Allah instead of the God of the Jews and Christians called Yahweh.

It was natural for Muhammad to worship the moon god named Allah, for that is the god Muhammad worshiped as a child.

The structure beliefs of the religion of Muhammad is based on the narcissistic mind set of Muhammad.

Muhammad dictates how his god Allah forgives and punishes those who reject Muhammad as prophet.

Muhammad revealed to Muslims that the only way to get to heaven is by fighting for the cause of his god Allah, and by doing good deeds among the Muslim believers who obey the Commands of Muhammad as prophet of Muhammad's god named Allah.

Of which is a totally different concept of the God of the Holy Bible.
Who calls us to have a personal relationship with Him as our Father guiding us through this world into His heavenly Kingdom in the hereafter.

Jesus as the Son of God calls us to love God and our neighbor in becoming Holy and acceptable to God our Father who is Holy, and loves us.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165617 Mar 1, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
You are quite familiar with the crook builders of the crooked Church, so don't ask me.
It is the starting point of circumambulation around the Ka'aba.
The original stone was smashed by renegades and hypocrites. Pieces were retrieved later and fitted in like one fits precious stones. The stone is like Jesus. It cannot save anyone. Like Jesus, it was also hammered and crushed.
Qur'aan is not like your New Testament, which was written by many. Books written by many, should have the originals but Christianity has no original of anything.
Qur'aan was recited out. Qur'aan has always been the same.
The only absurd Scripture that assigns a son to God, is the blasphemous New Testament. Qur'aan does not assign son and daughters to God. That is Christianity's patent.
Unlike your black stones that can not save, Jesus does save all who call upon Him and are baptized in the Name of the Fathr, Son and Holy.

The original koran contained verses of mohammad asking the people to pray to three goddesses who were allah's daughter. These verses were removed and are not in your koran.

Dosen't the koran call itself a book so why do you muslims keep calling it a recital? Is the koran wrong about calling itself a book?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165618 Mar 1, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
You are quite familiar with the crook builders of the crooked Church, so don't ask me.
It is the starting point of circumambulation around the Ka'aba.
The original stone was smashed by renegades and hypocrites. Pieces were retrieved later and fitted in like one fits precious stones. The stone is like Jesus. It cannot save anyone. Like Jesus, it was also hammered and crushed.
Qur'aan is not like your New Testament, which was written by many. Books written by many, should have the originals but Christianity has no original of anything.
Qur'aan was recited out. Qur'aan has always been the same.
The only absurd Scripture that assigns a son to God, is the blasphemous New Testament. Qur'aan does not assign son and daughters to God. That is Christianity's patent.
From quran:
"[2:3] This is a perfect Book; there is no doubt in it; it is a guidance for the righteous,"

The koran says it's a book, so why do you say it some kind of recital? Where is the original koran, "book", that talks about the three goddesses?

Since: Apr 11

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#165619 Mar 1, 2013
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
ROFL.
Laughing at truth is ignorance.
So I am laughing at your stupidity Joe.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165620 Mar 1, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you mean to say God died with the death of jesus? Is this not a blasphemy?
Or One Third of God died? You are not clear in what you say and how can you be clear making such a confusing statement.
If Jesus died as a God, then God cannot die, is it a contradiction because God does not die.
If Jesus died as a human, then so many humans die every day.
If Jesus died as a prophet, then so many prophets died before him. So what a great change.
If Jesus died as an honest man and innocent man, then so many honest men and innocent men have been hanged and killed wrongly, what is the great difference?
Look at whatever angle you look, death of Jesus was not a Ground shattering event, and in fact nothing like that happened.....till St. Paul appeared on the scene and concocted a religion out of this incident!!
Talk logic, man and not only making statements without any proofs or logics.
Jesus had a human nature, a soul and a divine nature. As the soul can not die neither can God, that is Jesus' divine nature. When Jesus' human nature died His soul and divinity went to Paradise to preach to those who had died waiting His coming. When Jesus died and rose from the dead He opened the Gates of Heaven and those who died before Him in Paradise went on with Jesus to heaven.

St Paul was an apostle, prophet and God's messenger to the gentiles.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#165621 Mar 1, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
1. That is what is called intelligent communication.
That is not a teaching instruction of the Gospels from the Apostles.
That fell under the assignment of what Paul was to receive from the Apostles.
2. Yes, When Paul was baptized he received the Holy Spirit and was enlightened in wisdom and understanding of who Jesus Christ is.
And through the Holy Spirit Jesus instructed Paul in the knowledge of the Gospels.
3. That is correct.
4. So in all instances Paul's testimony in the Scriptures is correct.
Paul wrote---At the Council of Jerusalem, Acts 15, the leaders of the Catholic Church blessed St Paul's mission to the gentiles and gave him advise on what he should require of his converts.

Shamma---Paul did not need teaching from the Apostles. Paul was instructed by Jesus.

HughBe--- I believe that it will be instructive if you reread my words with care.
Here are some of them, "NEITHER WAS I(Paul) TAUGHT it(gospel), but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."
"I immediately prepared to do this work WITHOUT asking for ADVICE or HELP from anyone"

Shamma---That fell under the assignment of what Paul was to receive from the Apostles.

HughBe--- Please specify the assignment or assignments that Paul received from the apostles.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165622 Mar 1, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
From quran:
"[2:3] This is a perfect Book; there is no doubt in it; it is a guidance for the righteous,"
The koran says it's a book, so why do you say it some kind of recital? Where is the original koran, "book", that talks about the three goddesses?
Kitaab in Arabic means revelations or scripture.

The translators go literal.

Qur'aan criticized and ridiculed the pagan Arabs for assigning three daughters to God, just as it criticizes and ridicules the pagan Christians for assigning a son to God.

It condemns not only the son of God but also the triune God known as Trinity. All of us know that Trinity is simply junk and stuff. Right? Simply because Jesus never taught that rubbish..
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165623 Mar 1, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Unlike your black stones that can not save, Jesus does save all who call upon Him and are baptized in the Name of the Fathr, Son and Holy.
Neither was Jesus able to save himself nor did he save anyone. That Jesus saves, is bull shit, Paul.

Even the Father could not save Jesus, so how can Jesus save?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165624 Mar 1, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Kitaab in Arabic means revelations or scripture.
The translators go literal.
Qur'aan criticized and ridiculed the pagan Arabs for assigning three daughters to God, just as it criticizes and ridicules the pagan Christians for assigning a son to God.
It condemns not only the son of God but also the triune God known as Trinity. All of us know that Trinity is simply junk and stuff. Right? Simply because Jesus never taught that rubbish..
So you don't know what the word really means? Revelations and scripture are not the same. Is scripture written or recited?

Here's a definition of scripture:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scr...

The original koran say mohammad told the people to pray to the three goddesses. This is documented by muslim scholars. So I would like to see the original koran to see if they are right. Do you have the original koran written piecemeal on leaves, stones and bones?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165625 Mar 1, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Neither was Jesus able to save himself nor did he save anyone. That Jesus saves, is bull shit, Paul.
Even the Father could not save Jesus, so how can Jesus save?
After preaching to the rightous in Paradise Jesus of His own power rose from the dead and opened the Gates of Heaven.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#165626 Mar 1, 2013
Stranger wrote:
The Qur'an is the Word of God
All that we have seen so far shows us one clear fact: the Qur'an is such a book that all the news related in it has proved to be true. Facts about scientific subjects and the news given about the future, facts that no one could have known at the time, were announced in its verses. It is impossible for this information to have been known with the level of knowledge and technology of the day. It is clear that this provides clear evidence that the Qur'an is not the word of man. The Qur'an is the word of the Almighty God, the Originator of everything and the One Who encompasses everything with His knowledge. In one verse, God says on the Qur'an "If it had been from other than God, they would have found many inconsistencies in it." (The Qur'an, 4:82) Not only are there no inconsistencies in the Qur'an, but every piece of information it contains reveals the miracle of this divine book more and more each day.
What falls to man is to hold fast to this divine book revealed by God, and receive it as his one and only guide. In one of the verses, God calls out to us:
"And this is a Book We have sent down and blessed, so follow it and have fear of God so that hopefully you will gain mercy."
(The Qur'an, 6:155)
In His other verses, God remarks:
"Say:'It is the truth from your Lord. Let anyone who wishes to, believe, and let anyone who wishes to, disbelieve.'"
(The Qur'an, 18:29)
"No indeed! Truly it (the Qur'an) is a reminder, and whoever wills pays heed to it."
(The Qur'an, 80:11-12
There were great men of having professed their knowledge before Muhammad was born.
When a Muslims speaks of the wonder of Muhammad it is like hearing a big joke or reading a funny comic book.
Muhammad was a narcissistic person, the insanity in his mind had Muhammad believing that what ever was written or said before Muhammad was born, belonged to Muhammad as revelation from his god Allah.
In his insanity mind set every in the world belongs to Muhammad and his followers.
In to days world Muslims are fighting and murdering innocent people to take their wares as they believe it belongs to them given to them
by Muhammad.
The insanity of Muslims is seen every where in the world.
Muslims fight non-Muslims as a cause to rob, rape and Murder in honoring their insane prophet Muhammad.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#165627 Mar 1, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
After preaching to the rightous in Paradise Jesus of His own power rose from the dead and opened the Gates of Heaven.
Jesus was a Jewish man. This is more or less recorded in a few books.
There is no evidence about him being God or THE "son of god", unless your "god" (not real God) pretended to come as his own son!
Jesus the man cannot be man and God at the same time which means your "god" (not real God) has pulled off a con trick posing as a man pretending to die.

Who saw this man preach to the dead?
Who saw him open the gates?
Stop lying.....

You have ended up with the MOST ineffective combination known as "trinity":

** A father who cruelly plotted to implicate the Jews in a callous murder by letting his helpless son die in their hands despite pleading for his life.

** A son who made many blunders, confused the locals, annoyed the establishment, gave conflicting signals and who could not even get his daddy to save him

** A ghost who has no purpose whatsoever besides spooking vulnerable mentally unstable people. This ghost has not come up with anything sensible for 2000 years!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#165628 Mar 1, 2013
BJ lands his clowns/cronies in real sht...

Luke 22:
36 “But now,” he said,“take your money and a traveler’s bag. And IF YOU DON'T HAVE a SWORD, SELL YOUR CLOAK anD BUY ONE!

38“Look, Lord,” they (the clowns) replied,“we have two swords among us.”

“That’s enough,” he said.(He APPROVED USE of SWORDS! He thought ONLY OLD PRIESTS WOULD CHALLENGE HIM and HE COULD BLUFF HIS WAY out!!!)

40 There he told them (THE CLOWNS),“Pray that you will not give in to temptation.”

WHAT DO THEY DO???

41He walked away, about a stone’s throw, and knelt down and prayed (LIKE A MUSLIM),

45 At last he stood up again and returned to the disciples, only to find them asleep,(exhausted from grief??LOL...).

46 “Why are you sleeping?” he asked them.“Get up and pray, so that you will not give in to temptation.”(HE SHOULD HAVE BY THEN REALISED IT WAS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME WITH THESE CLOWNS!!)

49 When the other disciples saw what was about to happen, they exclaimed,“Lord, should we fight? We brought the swords!”(ONLY A FOOL WOULD LET THESE CLOWNS USE SWORDS!!!)

50 And one of them struck at the high priest’s slave, slashing off his right ear.(WOW...WHAT AN EXPERT SWORDSMAN THIS 1ST POPE IS!!!)

51 But Jesus said,“No more of this.”
(HE REALISED THEY WERE in DEEP SHT BECAUSE the JEWISH ELDERS had BROUGHT TRAINED SOLDIERS!!! TO SAVE HIMSELF and the CLOWNS HE WENT BACK on HIS WORDS ABOUT SWORDS and FIGHTING!!!!!)

UTTER JOKE!!!
and the clueless GENTILES HAVE SWALLOWED IT HOOK LINE AND SINKER.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#165629 Mar 1, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus had a human nature, a soul and a divine nature. As the soul can not die neither can God, that is Jesus' divine nature. When Jesus' human nature died His soul and divinity went to Paradise to preach to those who had died waiting His coming. When Jesus died and rose from the dead He opened the Gates of Heaven and those who died before Him in Paradise went on with Jesus to heaven.
St Paul was an apostle, prophet and God's messenger to the gentiles.
BJ lands his clowns/cronies in real sht...
Luke 22:
36 “But now,” he said,“take your money and a traveler’s bag. And IF YOU DON'T HAVE a SWORD, SELL YOUR CLOAK anD BUY ONE!
38“Look, Lord,” they (the clowns) replied,“we have two swords among us.”
“That’s enough,” he said.(He APPROVED USE of SWORDS! He thought ONLY OLD PRIESTS WOULD CHALLENGE HIM and HE COULD BLUFF HIS WAY out!!!)
40 There he told them (THE CLOWNS),“Pray that you will not give in to temptation.”
WHAT DO THEY DO???
41He walked away, about a stone’s throw, and knelt down and prayed (LIKE A MUSLIM),
45 At last he stood up again and returned to the disciples, only to find them asleep,(exhausted from grief??LOL...).
46 “Why are you sleeping?” he asked them.“Get up and pray, so that you will not give in to temptation.”(HE SHOULD HAVE BY THEN REALISED IT WAS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME WITH THESE CLOWNS!!)
49 When the other disciples saw what was about to happen, they exclaimed,“Lord, should we fight? We brought the swords!”(ONLY A FOOL WOULD LET THESE CLOWNS USE SWORDS!!!)
50 And one of them struck at the high priest’s slave, slashing off his right ear.(WOW...WHAT AN EXPERT SWORDSMAN THIS 1ST POPE IS!!!)
51 But Jesus said,“No more of this.”
(HE REALISED THEY WERE in DEEP SHT BECAUSE the JEWISH ELDERS had BROUGHT TRAINED SOLDIERS!!! TO SAVE HIMSELF and the CLOWNS HE WENT BACK on HIS WORDS ABOUT SWORDS and FIGHTING!!!!!)
UTTER JOKE!!!
and the clueless GENTILES HAVE SWALLOWED IT HOOK LINE AND SINKER.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#165630 Mar 1, 2013
45 At last he stood up again and returned to the disciples, only to find them asleep,(exhausted from grief??LOL...).
THEY WERE DRUNK...

46 “Why are you sleeping?” he asked them.“Get up and pray, so that you will not give in to temptation.”(HE SHOULD HAVE BY THEN REALISED IT WAS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME WITH THESE CLOWNS!!)
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165631 Mar 1, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
45 At last he stood up again and returned to the disciples, only to find them asleep,(exhausted from grief??LOL...).
THEY WERE DRUNK...
46 “Why are you sleeping?” he asked them.“Get up and pray, so that you will not give in to temptation.”(HE SHOULD HAVE BY THEN REALISED IT WAS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME WITH THESE CLOWNS!!)
Do you have a copy of the piecemeal koran that talks about mohammad telling the people to pray to the three goddesses?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#165632 Mar 1, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have a copy of the piecemeal koran that talks about mohammad telling the people to pray to the three goddesses?
Hello moron...
You worship a clown!
We worship God.
Muhammed pbuh is just a man and we won't worship him.
Quran doesn't tell us to worship goddesses!
Why should it?
How can it tell us to worship GOD who is ONE and then tell us to worship others?
You can have the three or even thirty goddesses and put them on poles naked so you can increase the number of pagan worshippers.
What are you doing about the pedos in your "holy" vatican?

..........
41He walked away, about a stone’s throw, and knelt down and prayed (LIKE A MUSLIM),

45 At last he stood up again and returned to the disciples, only to find them asleep,(exhausted from grief??LOL...).
THEY WERE DRUNK OFCOURSE?

46 “Why are you sleeping?” he asked them.“Get up and pray, so that you will not give in to temptation.”(HE SHOULD HAVE BY THEN REALISED IT WAS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME WITH THESE CLOWNS!!)

49 When the other disciples saw what was about to happen, they exclaimed,“Lord, should we fight? We brought the swords!”(ONLY A FOOL WOULD LET THESE CLOWNS USE SWORDS!!!)
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165633 Mar 1, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello moron...
You worship a clown!
We worship God.
Muhammed pbuh is just a man and we won't worship him.
Quran doesn't tell us to worship goddesses!
Why should it?
How can it tell us to worship GOD who is ONE and then tell us to worship others?
You can have the three or even thirty goddesses and put them on poles naked so you can increase the number of pagan worshippers.
What are you doing about the pedos in your "holy" vatican?
..........
41He walked away, about a stone’s throw, and knelt down and prayed (LIKE A MUSLIM),
45 At last he stood up again and returned to the disciples, only to find them asleep,(exhausted from grief??LOL...).
THEY WERE DRUNK OFCOURSE?
46 “Why are you sleeping?” he asked them.“Get up and pray, so that you will not give in to temptation.”(HE SHOULD HAVE BY THEN REALISED IT WAS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME WITH THESE CLOWNS!!)
49 When the other disciples saw what was about to happen, they exclaimed,“Lord, should we fight? We brought the swords!”(ONLY A FOOL WOULD LET THESE CLOWNS USE SWORDS!!!)
The original koran didn't say to worship the three goddesses it say that mohammad said to pray to them for help.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#165634 Mar 1, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
The original koran didn't say to worship the three goddesses it say that mohammad said to pray to them for help.
hey moron...
If the Quran doesn't tell us to do something why should we concern ourselves with hearsay?
That is your speciality!!!
No wonder you worship a naked pagan oozing off a pole begging you to bit into his raw flesh and drink his fresh blood!!
Jesus NEVER told anybody to do that.
He came for the Jews and he did not come for Gentile dogs and pigs as he himself told his own people!!
have you no shame?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#165635 Mar 1, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, Rabbee but you too lied, when you used the word Him for him. I can accept his name written with a capital J but there should be no He, Him, Heem, His.
It is downright silly and absurd to use 'He','His' and 'Him' for him. We should discourage that use by liars.
rabbee: would you rather, i call Him - Them or Hoo VHee? which would obviously confuse, a lot of already obviously confused alleged as people. when they have an impossible time, distinguishing two by two according to scripture. but obviously the term HIM or Him, is a sign of respect stuch as Noach, Avraham, Yeetzak, Yaachov, Daveed and Shlomoh. when it is in reverence, to a particuar person in the objective case.

this since the word Adam, is far too complicated for this world. when they can't even comprehend the word, Yeshooah, more or less HaMosheeach. as i am sure none of you, have any idea Who you all are really talking about. when you can't even figure out, what story we are all here in again from TheG-D of Only TheTorah. because nobody can, get past their vain bigotry or vain prejudice. nobody here can show me in TheWritten Torah, where G-D said THEY Quit giving it. nowhere in Scripture can any of you find, where G-D made such an absurd claim.

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