Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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More of Muslim pagan wordhip.

4) Some Muslims think that since the New Jerusalem in the book of Revelation is cubic, it also resembles the Kaba and thus is a prophecy of the Kaba! But the Kaba is not a perfect cube, not even close. The structure is 50 ft high, with a sloping roof, the shorter walls are 35 feet long, and the facade is 40 ft. long.

SUMMARY FOR THE ISLAMIC RITES CENTERED ON THE KABA
Every Muslim that makes the Hajj, every Muslim that runs between the hills, every Muslim that bestows a kiss on the black stone, is performing pagan rituals, founded on pagan superstitions, sanctioned by Muhammad himself.

Muslims have accused Christianity of incorporating paganism, and to an extent, some exterior cultural aspects have been. But paganism is an integral root of Islam; paganism is part of it's theology, history, ceremony, and veneration.

My references for this section are from the original Hughes Dictionary of Islam (not the recent one that has been sanitized by a Muslim publisher), the Shorter Ency. of Islam, and the Ency. of Islam, pub. by E. J. Brill, and 'The Sources of Islam' by Tisdall.

MORE ISLAMIC PAGANISM
THE NIGHT JOURNEY
The Night Journey describes Muhammad's ascent into heaven. It is briefly mentioned in sura 17:1, and described in Sahih al-Bukhari, in several of his volumes, notably in vol 1,#345.

Muhammad's story parallels a Zoroastrian story. It is found in an old Pahlavi book known as "The Book of Arta Viraf". The Zoroastrian story describes the journey of a saintly priest (Arta Viraf), who went into a trance and his spirit went up to the heavens under the guidance of an angel named Sarosh. He passed from one utopia (7 heavens?) to another until he reached the presence of Ormazd, the great deity of the whole universe. When Arta saw everything in heaven and that the inhabitants were very happy, Ormazd commanded him to return to earth as his 'messenger' and to tell the people all that he saw and heard.
Also, the Zoroastrians taught, long before Islam, there was a marvelous tree in Paradise called 'humaya', which corresponds very closely to the 'sidrah', the lote tree of Islam.

Finally, there is another Zoroastrian work the 'Zerdashtnama', which has a story of how Zoroaster himself ascended into the heavens and obtained permission to visit hell, where he found Ahriman, the Devil.
All of these stories are paralleled in the Quran. No doubt Muhammad heard these stories and decided to put himself on a level with Zoroaster and others. So, now we have Muhammad copying the Zoroastrian stories and claiming to have these experiences.

Again, while Muslims claim that paganism influenced Christianity, we see that paganism is part of the core of Islamic faith and theology.

AZAZIL - THE DEVIL
In the Muslim Hadith, the Devil has a certain name - Azazil.

The name does not occur in the Quran. The name may come from Leviticus 16:8, 10, 26 - the scapegoat in Hebrew is Azazil. From another source it means 'the demon of the desert'.

There are Apocrypha Jewish books - Enoch and Apocalypse of Abraham, that mention Azazil. Islamic traditions - Hadiths develop their story. Muslims associate Azazil with the fallen angels Harut and Marut. Ibn Abbas tradition has the strongest Islamic reference developing it as Satan's name, before the fall of Adam.

Here is Tisdall's view on it (taken from "The Sources of Islam"):
Muslims take the name Azazil from the Jews, but put the Zoroastrian story behind the name. Muslims believe that God created Azazil, who worshipped God for a 1000 years while he was in the 7th hell. Then he ascended a stage at a time, all the while worshipping God. Finally, he reached the earth. Elsewhere, Muslim tradition says he stayed 3000 years by the gate of paradise, with hostile intentions against Adam and Eve. He was very jealous of them.

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Mote Muslim pagan worship.
Compare the above with the Zoroastrian account:
Ahriman (Azazil) remained in the abyss, there to commit hurt and injury, and mischief and darkness. Ormazd (God) knew of his existence and plans. It went on like this for 3000 years. The evil spirit was ignorant of Ormazd's existence, but eventually rising out of the pit, saw Ormazd's light. Then Ahriman was filled with hostility and envy, he set out to destroy.

THE SABEANS
Who were the Sabeans? Why did Muhammad regard them as believers in the true God? The Sabeans are mentioned at least 3 times in the Quran:
1) 2:62 - "Believers, Jews, Christians, and Sabeans; whoever believes in God and the last day and does what is right, shall be rewarded by their Lord; they have nothing to fear or regret."
2) 5:69 - "Believers, Jews, Sabeans and Christians; whoever believes in God and the last day and does what is right, shall have nothing to fear or to regret."
3) 22:17 - "As for the true believers, the Jews, the Sabeans, the Christians, the Magians, and the pagans, God will judge them on the day of Resurrection. God bears witness to all things."

Although what is known about the Sabeans is not comprehensive, enough has been written about them to determine a basic understanding of their practices and beliefs. Most of the writings are from Islamic sources. Some of the writers are Ibn Hazm in 'Fisal wa-Milal', Ibn al-Nadim in the 'Fihrist', Shahrastani in 'The Treaty on Sects', and Masudi in 'Muruj al-Dhahab.

Ibn Hazm, writing in 'Fisal wa-Milal', identifies the people then known as 'Harranians' as the 'Sabeans' mentioned in the Quran. Hazm writes that they honored the seven planets and the twelve constellations, they have 5 times of prayer,(the same times as the Muslims pray), they fast in Ramadan, they venerate and turn to the Kaba in prayer. Hazm also says they also worshipped the stars and idols. Hazm further claims that Allah sent Abraham to turn them away from pagan worship, but Abraham didn't succeed.

Comparing all the early writings on the Sabeans, we find that they inhabited Syria, and spread from there, they were definitely pagans, having a mixture of Babylonian and Helenic religion. The 'prophets' they professed to follow were Hermes and Agathodaemon, who they identified in Shahrastani's time with Seth and Idris (O.T. Enoch). Gods who were worshipped were the gods of the 7 week-days, the god of the Jinn, the lord of the Hour, the god who makes arrows fly, the god Tammuz (a variation of the one previously mentioned), Hamam the prince, the father of the gods, the god 'North', the lord 'Fortune', etc. They also kept the Eid of their own. Further, the Sabeans made star worship a chief characteristic of their system.

So, did Islam get the 5 times a day prayer?--From the star worshipping Sabeans. What about fasting during Ramadan?- from the Sabeans. The Eid?- from the Sabeans.

It seems very odd to me that Muhammad, the man who's central doctrine was the oneness of God, would include pagan worshippers as those who were believers in the true God. If Muhammad were truly a prophet, how could he have made such a big mistake? How did astral worshippers get included into the Quran as those that worship the true God? How could Muhammad's 'revelation' be in such error?

It is noteworthy that just as Muhammad incorporated the pagan veneration of the Kaba and black stone into Islam, so he incorporated the Sabean times of prayer, Eid, and fasting into Islam.

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Muslim pagan Houris.

HOURIS
The Quran mentions 'houris' several times 44:50, 52:20, 55:60, 56:20, 78:33. Who or what are they? They are 'bashful virgins','fair as coral and ruby','dark eyed youths','high bosomed maidens (big breasted)'. In sum, they are creatures put in Paradise, primarily for men's sexual pleasures. Each man will have at least two of them.

This concept is derived from the Zoroastrian sources. In Zoroastrian writings they are referred to as 'Faries'- spirits in bright array and beautiful to captivate the heart of man. The name 'Houris' comes from a Pehlavi source, as does the Islamic 'Jinn' for Genie.

CONCLUSION
Is not difficult to see how Muhammad heard various sacred religious stories, and incorporated them into Islam. Perhaps he thought that parts of those religions contained truth, so he adopted what he thought to be correct. But nevertheless, part of the foundation of Islam is paganism.
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hi..to make a long story short .iam al mahdy.the chosen one..any way..am in jeddah..obhur...and now for somthing compleatly different...lets all watch the sky ..because its time to expose the truth.......roaaaaaaaaar.
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<quoted text>God shares His love with mankind through the Holy Trinity.
PBUH Shamma
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I do not know, how death of one person can achieve this?
So many people die every day and so many innocent people are killed. Even prophets of God have been killed and hanged on false charges.
Why you have made the death of Jesus so mysterious? All this is false teachings of Paul, which have mesmerized most of Christians.
Get out of it and talk with reason and logic.
The reason Jesus' death procured our salvation, while no other man's death can, was because He is God. It was by Jesus' death and resurrection that we are saved.
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JOEL wrote:
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So, you believe this failed savior's words?
Have you heard Jesus say so about himself or have you read about this claim in your NT? LOL.
Never believe without sound reasons and supporting proofs.
Many lunatics like Jesus and others have arisen in the history of the world who've declared themselves almighty, omniscient, infallible, omnipotent, invincible and absolute and all without an exception have be proven failures or outright frauds and none has done anything to dissolve the numerous problems facing humankind.
As I stated earlier, it hasn't been given to you to understand.

God has chosen certain people to whom he has given understanding
and to whom He has revealed the truth to.

These people are called the elect, they are going to spend eternity in God's Kingdom. The rest of humanity is condemned to spend eternity in hell.

I know you hate to hear this truth and you will try to wish it away. Sadly for you and all the rest who reject Jesus as their saviour, your all damned to spend eternity in hell.

I hope and pray that you would turn from your evil ways, and ask Jesus to be your personal saviour.

There is no other name under Heaven given by which we can be saved.
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But I keep learning something new each day.
So, you have learned something new today and that is:

There is no "My Father, his Father, her Father, your Father , their Father and our Father" in the Jewish Holy Scriptures.
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There is no other name under Heaven given by which we can be saved.
That is correct and that name is not Jesus. Since the LORD Almighty God said that there was no other God and Savior besides the LORD Almighty, Jesus gets thrown out from that post.
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its alali halali=forgivness as jesus say
you are against jibriel= gabriel did you
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jibe
2 jibe and 5 bread=25
who is real
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Shamma wrote:
It seems very odd to me that Muhammad, the man who's central doctrine was the oneness of God, would include pagan worshippers as those who were believers in the true God. If Muhammad were truly a prophet, how could he have made such a big mistake? How did astral worshippers get included into the Quran as those that worship the true God? How could Muhammad's 'revelation' be in such error?

It is noteworthy that just as Muhammad incorporated the pagan veneration of the Kaba and black stone into Islam, so he incorporated the Sabean times of prayer, Eid, and fasting into Islam.
Could you please stop using the silly, absurd and idiotic word 'oneness", which was coined by the pagan Church?

Oneness of God is discussed by those, who do not believe there is only one God. Every damn silly and idiotic word in Christianity's pagan-infested theology is based on absurd doctrines.
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sura25
its stay upon two angel and light upon that

i left my photo to someone
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Muslims and the Black Stone.
Muslims pagan worship.
THE BLACK STONE

The black stone played a prominent role in pagan worship. The pagans offered animal sacrifices there. But the idol of the black stone replaced the alter; on the black stone they smeared the blood of the sacrificed animals.
Actually, the black stone was the stone that the builders rejected. KMA, Shaman.
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Actually, the black stone was the stone that the builders rejected. KMA, Shaman.
Who were the builders that rejected it and now what is it good for? Is one saved by kissing the black ston(s). Question: Is it one stone or several stones?

Do you have a copy of the original koran that tells the people to pray to the three goddesses; allah's daughters?
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@ Shaman
There were hundreds of Jesuses and Marys back then. Can you stop spamming and littering the precious bandwidth, please?
We believe that Jesus existed and his mother was a holy, noble and a pure
woman, whom no man knew and she was a virgin, when she conceived Jesus.
No problem there.
We are not discussing through Talmud. The problem is that the gospels clearly show that the alleged crucifixion was a drama, a well-managed stage show, which was a joint production by Pilate and the San Hedrin. It allowed him to escape.
And Jesus went into hiding.
That Jesus did not come out in the open, clearly shows that he was never dead.
If you killed me and if I were resurrected, I would definitely go and present myself to you. I would not be running away from you then.
After the alleged resurrection, Jesus would have gone to Jerusalem to show himself up to his killers, instead of going to Galilee.
That he did not make a Triumphal Re-Entry into Jerusalem, already shows that the man was never dead.
It would have been better if he had remained dead and only then it could have been considered a great sacrifice.
rabbee: there was nobody, by the name jesus back then. nor could the name jesus possibly exist, for another thousand years. so everything you write or say about Him, is based on a lie in a world of liars.
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JOEL wrote:
Why couldn't JESUS, the failed saviour and fake messiah, attain to "physical immortality" on earth and live forever or as long as he pleased instead of disgracefully having to exit his body via an Out-of-Body experience so as to escape to the heavenly/supraphysical plane of his father? LOL.
rabbee: what makes you think, that your mental failure is my actual physical failure to be here again? and quit assuming, i am an out of body experience. as your failure to comprehend being here in TheTorah, is not my failure to comprehend it all.
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Sadly for you and all the rest who reject Jesus as their saviour, your all damned to spend eternity in hell.
What's that? Hell?
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uhuh wrote:
without proof of the crucial event, the "Resurrection", christianity remains what it is; a scam
rabbee: well according to TheG-D of my visitations. i and the woman, the proof you were not waiting for. because This is TheTorah, G-D is again giving from Adam to adam and his mate again. same story again, with nothing new in a world of liars.
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Shamma wrote:
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God perceived the world and creation in his mind and Willed things into being from nothing.
ROFL.

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