Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 230440 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165397 Feb 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- Paul, please don't allow that clown that judges your post funny to reinforce your errors. Pay attention to the scriptures as I point them out to you and you shall be ok.
FIRST, I shall repeat my previous words for your meditation and then address your current post. I have noticed that you have a tendency to ignore issues.
Your words, Paul-- "the leaders of the Catholic Church blessed St Paul's mission to the gentiles and gave him ADVISE on what he should REQUIRE of his converts"
Scriptures for comparison -- Galatians 1
"I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is NOT after man. For I neither received it of man, NEITHER WAS I TAUGHT it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ." KJV
"I immediately prepared to do this work WITHOUT asking for ADVICE or HELP from anyone. I did not go to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was. But, without waiting, I went away to Arabia. Later, I went back to the city of Damascus." Easy-To-Read version
DO YOU understand that Paul's ministry started for years before he met any other apostle? If so what was he teaching?
Do YOU understand, that Paul did NOT learn his teachings from any other apostle?
VIP--(QUOTE the passage that supports your claim that Paul was blessed by the other apostles)
Paul---The governance of the Catholic Church was well established during the life time of the Apostles as this excerpt from Acts clearly shows (emphasis in capitals are mine):
Acts 15:
The apostles and elders, your brothers,
To the Gentile believers in Antioch
HughBe--- Did YOU notice the words YOUR BROTHERS? what do they mean to you? "The apostles and elders, YOUR BROTHERS"
The gentile Christians SENT the APOSTLE Paul to Jerusalem and so my question to you is, did they have AUTHORITY over the apostle Paul?
Explain, Acts 15:2 below and link it to YOUR "governance of the Catholic Church"
Who was the GOVERNOR in the gentile churches was it the membership or the apostle Paul?
Acts 15:2 "Paul and Barnabas ·were against this teaching and argued [&#8239;had no small argument and debate] with them about it. So the CHURCH ·decided to SEND [commissioned; appointed] Paul, Barnabas, and some others to Jerusalem where they could talk more about this disagreement with the apostles and elders"
St Paul was a prophet of God and God's messenger to the gentiles. However, even with his commission from God as a prophet of God he still recognized the AUTHORITY of the leaders of the Catholic Church and went up to Jerusalem to get their blessing on his ministry.

I am not a fundy and thus do not have to demonstrate anything using only the Holy Bible, for Sacred Tradition and the Holy Bible can not be separated; they form one whole.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165398 Feb 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Could be kind of embarrassing
Not only that but hell will be the abode for Shaman and the gang.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165399 Feb 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- I have no doubt that the pope gave YOU and others like you your bible.
As for me, God gave me my bible via Moses, the Jewish prophets,the Jewish writings, Jesus and the Jewish APOSTLES including Paul, a former Pharisee, Peter, John and the non-Jew Luke, the physician.
Now, you spoke about documents being INSPIRED by the Holy Spirit and I say let us explore that some more.
Share the 10 commandments as taught by your church and at the same time quote the 10 found in the KJV or the Tanach.
There is no need to compare anything to the kjv of the bible since king james had no authority from God to translate the Holy Bible into English. There are many links on the net that will explain the comparison between the Ten Commands as used by various churches. This thread is about "Who is allah" and I have no desire to be diverted into some Christian/Christian apologetics.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165400 Feb 27, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Even I knew he was referring to you and not Jesus....
Your sermons are good for people with insomnia.
"As Paul spoke on and on, a young man named Eutychus, sitting on the windowsill, became very drowsy. Finally, he fell sound asleep and dropped three stories to his death below."
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165401 Feb 27, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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St Paul was a prophet of God and God's messenger to the gentiles. However, even with his commission from God as a prophet of God he still recognized the AUTHORITY of the leaders of the Catholic Church and went up to Jerusalem to get their blessing on his ministry.
I am not a fundy and thus do not have to demonstrate anything using only the Holy Bible, for Sacred Tradition and the Holy Bible can not be separated; they form one whole.
St. Paul was a prophet of God? have you gone crazy? He was not even a prophet of Jesus.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165402 Feb 27, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Jesus the innocent Lamb of God was accused of many crimes and was put to death for our crimes/sins. But God would not let His Holy One rot in the Grave and rasied Him up after three days in the tomb.
Can you please list up all your sins and crimes? Why did the Holy Spirit leave you?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165403 Feb 27, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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There is no need to compare anything to the kjv of the bible since king james had no authority from God to translate the Holy Bible into English. There are many links on the net that will explain the comparison between the Ten Commands as used by various churches. This thread is about "Who is allah" and I have no desire to be diverted into some Christian/Christian apologetics.
Brother HughBe is trying to educate you. So, please learn. He is taking you to task in this thread.

You are the one, who is already into Christian apologetics. So, be a good apologist and discuss points raised by brother HughBe.

It is good to see two Christians argue. So, offer some good rebuttals.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#165404 Feb 27, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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St Paul was a prophet of God and God's messenger to the gentiles. However, even with his commission from God as a prophet of God he still recognized the AUTHORITY of the leaders of the Catholic Church and went up to Jerusalem to get their blessing on his ministry.
I am not a fundy and thus do not have to demonstrate anything using only the Holy Bible, for Sacred Tradition and the Holy Bible can not be separated; they form one whole.
Paul--even with his commission from God as a prophet of God he still recognized the AUTHORITY of the leaders of the Catholic Church and went up to Jerusalem to get their blessing on his ministry

HughBe--- 1.support your claim by quoting scripture.

2. Is it because he recognized their AUTHORITY why he had the following approach to them and their AUTHORITY?

Approach "I immediately prepared to do this work WITHOUT asking for ADVICE or HELP from anyone. I did NOT go to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was"

Paul--- Sacred Tradition and the Holy Bible can not be separated; they form one whole

HughBe--- man-made traditions maybe good but they should NEVER be equated to the words of God.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165405 Feb 27, 2013
bmz wrote:
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St. Paul was a prophet of God? have you gone crazy? He was not even a prophet of Jesus.
St Paul was a prophet of God and God's messenger to the gentiles.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#165406 Feb 27, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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There is no need to compare anything to the kjv of the bible since king james had no authority from God to translate the Holy Bible into English. There are many links on the net that will explain the comparison between the Ten Commands as used by various churches. This thread is about "Who is allah" and I have no desire to be diverted into some Christian/Christian apologetics.
Recall, you spoke about documents being inspired by the Holy Spirit and as such I wanted to see your inspired works and to compare them with the KJV or the TANACH. Did you see the word TANACH?

Compare the 10 of your church with the TANACH 10 or the Septuagint 10

Trusting that you do not find fault with those versions as well.

Just curious, is your version older than the Septuagint?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165407 Feb 27, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Can you please list up all your sins and crimes? Why did the Holy Spirit leave you?
I go to the sacrement of Reconciliation and have no need to confess to you who can do nothing for me. It was through Jesus' death and resurrection that my sins can now be forgiven.

The Holy Spirit has not left me, I am a temple of the Holy Spirit.

You said the holy spirit is the mother of allah's three daughters, so is that why you think he left me?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#165408 Feb 27, 2013
Help is being provided for you,Paul, out of Christian love.

Paul wrote---The pope in union with the bishops gave us the Holy Bible. It took all the available documents and declared through the Keys of St Peter which documents were inspired by the Holy Spirit and which were not.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165409 Feb 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Recall, you spoke about documents being inspired by the Holy Spirit and as such I wanted to see your inspired works and to compare them with the KJV or the TANACH. Did you see the word TANACH?
Compare the 10 of your church with the TANACH 10 or the Septuagint 10
Trusting that you do not find fault with those versions as well.
Just curious, is your version older than the Septuagint?
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive...

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#165410 Feb 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Mr "Know It All" here
Fact is you don't have any better a clue than anyone else. And neither do I. The main difference between me and you is that I admit it and you don't. Real sign of intelligence is knowing your limits.
Sounds like I deflated your ego and you are trying to build it up again by personally attacking my moral integrity.

You are trying to apply Psychology in reverse instead of applying your intelligence to come to an understanding and meaning of the post I post

It appears to me you are trying to take away the intelligence I bring to this forum.

What is the Bible?
Is it not an invitation by God to have communion and converse with Him?

If that is not what the Bible is all about, then why did God inspire the prophets to write about Him?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#165411 Feb 27, 2013
Shamma wrote:
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Sounds like I deflated your ego and you are trying to build it up again by personally attacking my moral integrity.
You are trying to apply Psychology in reverse instead of applying your intelligence to come to an understanding and meaning of the post I post
It appears to me you are trying to take away the intelligence I bring to this forum.
What is the Bible?
Is it not an invitation by God to have communion and converse with Him?
If that is not what the Bible is all about, then why did God inspire the prophets to write about Him?
I didnt attack your moral integrity - I attacked your intelligence.

I dont follow the Bible - I am not Christian - so I dont care

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#165412 Feb 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Paul wrote---At the Council of Jerusalem, Acts 15, the leaders of the Catholic Church blessed St Paul's mission to the gentiles and gave him advise on what he should require of his converts.
Shamma---Paul did not need teaching from the Apostles. Paul was instructed by Jesus.
HughBe--- I believe that it will be instructive if you reread my words with care.
Here are some of them, "NEITHER WAS I(Paul) TAUGHT it(gospel), but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."
"I immediately prepared to do this work WITHOUT asking for ADVICE or HELP from anyone"
1. That is what is called intelligent communication.
That is not a teaching instruction of the Gospels from the Apostles.
That fell under the assignment of what Paul was to receive from the Apostles.

2. Yes, When Paul was baptized he received the Holy Spirit and was enlightened in wisdom and understanding of who Jesus Christ is.
And through the Holy Spirit Jesus instructed Paul in the knowledge of the Gospels.

3. That is correct.

4. So in all instances Paul's testimony in the Scriptures is correct.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#165413 Feb 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I didnt attack your moral integrity - I attacked your intelligence.
I dont follow the Bible - I am not Christian - so I dont care
NO! You attacked my message without understanding the moral value it contained in my post to rabbee.

And you still don't understand it.

You attack my post in ignorance of the message it contains.

For instance: your "What if " question was questioning the moral truth of what I posted.

And I replied; Your "what if" question was poorly conceived in your mind.

You didn't consider my characterization of God being "love" to be true.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#165414 Feb 27, 2013
Excerpts from the Gospel of Barnabas, Part-62

Chapter 130 Parable of Debtors

Jesus said: "There was a man who had two debtors. The one owed to his creditor fifty pence, the other five hundred. Whereupon, when neither of them had wherewithal to pay, the owner, moved with compassion, forgave the debt to each. Which of them would love his creditor most?" Simon answered: "He to whom was forgiven the greater debt." Jesus said: "You have well said; I say to you, therefore, behold this woman and yourself; for you were both debtors to God, the one for leprosy of the body, the other for leprosy of the soul, which is sin. God our Lord, moved with compassion through my prayers, has willed to heal your body and her soul.

You, therefore, love me little, because you have received little as a gift. And so, when I entered your house you did not kiss me nor anoint my head. But this woman, lo! straightway on entering your house she placed herself at my feet, which she has washed with her tears and anointed with precious ointment. Wherefore truly I say to you, many sins are forgiven her, because she has loved much." And turning to the woman he said: "Go your way in peace, for the Lord our God has pardoned your sins; but see you sin no more. Your faith has saved you."

Chapter 131 On Pride

His disciples drew near to Jesus after the nightly prayer, and said: "O Master, how must we do to escape pride?" Jesus answered: "Have you seen a poor man invited to a prince's house to eat bread?" John answered: "I have eaten bread in Herod's house. For before I knew you I went to fish, and used to sell the fish to the family of Herod. Whereupon, one day when he was feasting, I having brought thither a fine fish, he made me stay and eat there."

Then Jesus said: "Now how did you eat bread with infidels? God pardon you, O John! But tell me, how did you bear yourself at the table? Did you seek to have the most honorable place? Did you ask for the most delicate food? Did you speak when you were not questioned at the table? Did you account yourself more worthy than the others to sit at table?"
John answered: "As God lives, I did not dare to lift up my eyes, seeing myself, a poor fisherman, ill-clad, sitting among the king's barons. Whereupon, when the king gave me a little piece of flesh, I thought that the world had fallen upon my head, for the greatness of the favour that the king did to me. And truly I say that, if the king had been of our Law, I should have been fain to serve him all the days of my life." Jesus cried out: "Hold your peace, John, for I fear lest God should cast us into the abyss, even like Abiram, for our pride!"

…As God lives, you sinned not, O John, in eating with Herod, for it was of God's disposition you did so, in order that you might be our teacher and [the teacher] of every one that fears God. So do," said Jesus to his disciples, "that you may live in the world as John lived in the house of Herod when he ate bread with him, for so shall you be in truth free from all pride."

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#165415 Feb 27, 2013
Chapter 132 Parable of Sower

... He then opened his mouth and said:

"Behold, the Sower went out to sow, whereupon as he sowed some of the seed fell upon the road, and this was trodden under foot of men and eaten up of birds; some fell upon the stones, whereupon when it sprang up, because it had no moisture, it was burnt up by the sun; some fell in the hedges, whereupon when it grew up the thorns chocked the seed; and some fell on good ground, whereupon it. bare fruit, even to thirty, sixty, and an one hundredfold."

Again Jesus said: "Behold, the father of a family sowed good seed in his field: whereupon, as the servants of the good man slept, the enemy of the man their master came and sowed tares over the good seed. Whereupon, when the corn sprang up, there was seen sprung up among the corn a great quantity of tares. The servants came to their master and said: "O Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? Wherefore then is there sprung up therein a great quantity of tares?" The master answered:'Good seed did I sow, but while men slept the enemy of man came and sowed tares over the corn.'

Said the servants: "Will you that we go and pull up the tares from among the corn?" The master answered: "Do not so, for you would pull up the corn therewith; but wait till the time of harvest comes. For then shall you go and pull up the tares from among the corn and cast them into the fire to be burned, but the corn you shall put into my granary.' "

…Again Jesus said: "There went forth two men to sell apples. The one chose to sell the peel of the apple for its weight in gold, not caring for the substance of the apples. The other desired to give the apples away, receiving only a little bread for his journey. But men bought the peel of the apples for its weight in gold, not caring for him who was fain to give them, no even despising him."

And thus on that day Jesus spoke to the crowd in parables. Then having dismissed them, he went with his disciples to Nain, where he had raised to life the widow's son; who, with his mother, received him into his house and ministered to him.

Note: Some of the parables are found in other Gospels also.-MUQ

(Abridged)

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#165416 Feb 27, 2013
Muslims don't get it.
They are ignorant of what the OT, NT, Gods Holy Bible is all about.

We were made by God for God so that we may know God and love God.
God calls us to Himself by His love for us.

The problem is that Muslims don't have the spirit of God in them.
Muslims have the spirit of Muhammad in side of them.

Muhammad demanded every one obey him as prophet of his own religion.
"Believe Me" or I will kill you.
That is not the spirit of God.

God is not a religion.
Islam is a religion.

Christianity is not a religion.
Christianity is the relationship with God as our Father guiding us through this world into being with Him in His heavenly Kingdom.

God being invisible and unapproachable in his own state of Being, in wanting to have communion with us, who made us in His own image of Himself, found it necessary in order to have communion with us, His created, revealed Himself to us through His only begotten Son Jesus Christ.

Through our belief in Jesus Christ, Gods Son, Christians become children of God and belong to God as family members of Gods family.

Muhammad created his own religion, and forced Arabs to become members of his tribal god family, of which Muhammad is the father of his own religion.

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