Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256599 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#164420 Feb 19, 2013
If Jesus is the "Lamb of God".....then who is "Begotten Son of God"?

We heard that Word became Flesh , but where is written "Son became Lamb"?

This might be new theory of "Evolution" or "New theory of Transformation"?

Now they will say, "No. No, by Lamb we do not mean "real" Lamb?"

That is why I say, these people do not speak in English, they use Gibberish!!
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#164421 Feb 19, 2013
Excerpts from the Gospel of Barnabas, Part-56

Chapter 117 Elijah’s story

Elijah answered: "You are of the tribe of Levi; and because you, in entering the Temple of God, looks lewdly upon a woman, you being near the sanctuary, our God took away your sight." Then the blind man weeping said: "Pardon me, O holy prophet of God, for I have sinned in speaking with you; for if I had seen you I should not have sinned."

Elijah answered: "May our God pardon you, O brother, because as regards me I know that you have told me the truth, seeing that the more I hate myself the more I love God, and if you saw me you would still your desire, which is not pleasing to God. For Elijah is not your creator, but God; whence, so far as concerns you, I am the devil," said Elijah weeping, "because I turn you aside from your creator.

Weep then, O brother, because you have not that light which would make you see the true from the false, for if you had had that you would not have despised my doctrine. Wherefore I say to you, that many desire to see me and come from far to see me, who despise my words. Wherefore it were better for them, for their salvation, that they had no eyes, seeing that everyone that finds pleasure in the creature, be he who he may, and seeks not to find pleasure in God, has made an idol in his heart, and forsaken God." Then Jesus said, sighing: "Have you understood all that Elijah said?" The disciples answered: "In truth, we have understood, and we are beside ourselves at the knowledge that here on earth there are very few that are not idolaters."

Chapter 118 , Jews' Idolatry

Then Jesus said: "You speak the truth, for now was Israel desirous to establish the idolatry that they have in their hearts, in holding me for God, many of whom have now despised my teaching, saying that I could make myself lord of all Judea, if I confessed myself to be God, and that I am mad to wish to live in poverty among desert places, and not abide continually among princes in delicate living. Oh hapless man, that prizes the light that is common to flies and ants and despises the light that is common only to angels and prophets and holy friends of God!

If, then, the eye shall not be guarded, O Andrew, I tell you that it is impossible not to fall headlong into lust. Wherefore Jeremiah the prophet, weeping vehemently, said truly: "My eye is a thief that robs my soul." For therefore did David our father pray with greatest longing to God our Lord that he would turn away his eyes in order that he might not behold vanity. For truly everything which has an end is vain.

Tell me, then, if one had two pence to buy bread, would he spend it to buy smoke? Assuredly not, seeing that smoke does hurt to the eyes and gives no sustenance to the body. Even so then let man do, for with the outward sight of his eyes and the inward sight of his mind he should seek to know God his creator and the good pleasure of his will, and should not make the creature his end, which causes him to lose the creator.

Note: No comments needed for such a story- MUQ
(Abridged)
sabir abdus-samee

Washington, DC

#164422 Feb 19, 2013
Templar wrote:
<quoted text>
Less then by muslm armies during the history. And they killed not in the allah's cause, in contrast to muslims who scream "allah akbar" before blowing civilians up. Fanatic muslims, true followers of muhamid, blow including childrne and women up, because allah ordered them to do so.
<quoted text>
War agains non-muslims
Qur'an:9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place."
Qur'an:9:123 "Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you."
Qur'an:8:72 "Those who accepted Islam and left their homes to fight in Allah's Cause with their possessions and persons, and those who gave (them) asylum, aid, and shelter, those who harbored them - these are allies of one another. You are not responsible for protecting those who embraced Islam but did not leave their homes [to fight] until they do so." [Another translation reads:] "You are only called to protect Muslims who fight."
Hell for non-muslims
Qur'an 37:63 "For We have truly made it as a trial to torment the disbelievers. Zaqqum is a horrible thorn tree that grows in Hell. The shoots of its fruit-stalks are like the heads of devils. Truly they [non-Muslims] will eat it and fill their bellies with it. On top of that they will be given a mixture made of boiling water to drink especially prepared. Then they shall be returned to the Blazing Fire."
Qur'an 74:8 "The trumpet shall sound a day of anguish for disbelievers. Leave Me alone to deal with the creature whom I created bare and alone! Leave Me to deal with those I granted wealth and sons."
It was Allah Himself who killed the non-muslims, not the muslims who hollered "Allah-u-Akbar"
John

Wurtulla, Australia

#164423 Feb 20, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
This is another absurd verse that does not fit in the exchange between Jesus and Martha.
You can't even get the verse reference right., because you copy and paste but never read before posting.
This is how the exchange went on in John 11::
"21 “Lord,” Martha said to Jesus,“if you had been here, my brother would not have died. 22 But I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask.”
23 Jesus said to her,“Your brother will rise again.”
24 Martha answered,“I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”
25 Jesus said to her,“I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”
27 “Yes, Lord,” she replied,“I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”
Martha already knew about resurrection at the last day and it was nothing new.
Read her answer in 27, which shows she accepted him as messiah only. We don't see her acknowledging that Jesus was resurrection and life.
27 “Yes, Lord,” she replied,“I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”
“I am the resurrection and the life. " is another absurd line.
This is another forgery in John.
You are such a ridiculous liar.

25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?"

To which Martha replies.

27 "Yes, Lord," she replied, "I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world."

Thereby acknowledging that Jesus was resurrection and life and the Messiah and the Son of God.

The only absurdity is that you follow the cult of a self confessed rapist, murderer, paedophile, looter, and terrorist. Mad mo was a false prophet.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#164424 Feb 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
If Jesus is the "Lamb of God".....then who is "Begotten Son of God"?

We heard that Word became Flesh , but where is written "Son became Lamb"?

This might be new theory of "Evolution" or "New theory of Transformation"?

Now they will say, "No. No, by Lamb we do not mean "real" Lamb?"

That is why I say, these people do not speak in English, they use Gibberish!!
Jesus and the Father never said, "So shall be written and so will be done".

That is why one will not find anything written that the Church says.

Lamb of God simply means a simple and noble person.

For example, if I call Shammu a Cow, it would mean Shammu is a fool. He will just follow the herd and keep following the last cow.

The men, who had the New Testament were cunning, shrewd and knew how to twist and distort. They were the ones, who directed the writing. They were Evil genius, I must say.

Salaams, MUQ

BMZ
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#164425 Feb 20, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
You are such a ridiculous liar.
25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?"
To which Martha replies.
27 "Yes, Lord," she replied, "I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world."
Thereby acknowledging that Jesus was resurrection and life and the Messiah and the Son of God.
The only absurdity is that you follow the cult of a self confessed rapist, murderer, paedophile, looter, and terrorist. Mad mo was a false prophet.
First off, "I am the resurrection and life" is absurd and grammatically incorrect. The language is foolish. He had not even died and had not been even resurrected yet.

Jesus did not say, "I resurrect and give life".

And the woman did not acknowledge that he was the resurrection and life. She straight away accepted him only as messiah.

These are ridiculous and meaningless absurd stories, which were used to impress ignorant fools.

Even the LORD Almighty God never used that kind of absurd language. First we heard about the absurdity, "Before Abraham was born, I am" and now this.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164426 Feb 20, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
You are such a ridiculous liar.
25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?"
To which Martha replies.
27 "Yes, Lord," she replied, "I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world."
Thereby acknowledging that Jesus was resurrection and life and the Messiah and the Son of God.
The only absurdity is that you follow the cult of a self confessed rapist, murderer, paedophile, looter, and terrorist. Mad mo was a false prophet.
***John was written by many "johns" in their Johnnies after taking many crates of the unholy spirit known as johnnie walker.

***What does "S"on of "G"od mean?

Try writing that in Jesus' language without "upper cases"?

MESSIAH was/is a concept within the Jewish religion.

Did they expect their Messiah to be God, begotten "S"on of "G"od or even a Son of God? NO!

*** The "comma" son of god is a big lie....
Messiah,(COMMA), son of god is an invention by writers who invented "S"ons for your Pagan gods by HIJACKING Jewish books!

***You have MANY (not even THREE) Pagan gods..HEAVENLY daddy god, EARTHLY mummy/daughter/wifey gods, MIXED UP HEAVENLY/EARTHLY son, MIXED UP EARTHLY/HEAVENLY ghostly spirit....

*** "christians" are being disingenuous by making these into one by DRAGGING in Jewish books despite their VEHEMENT opposition.

LOL...

25. "The one who believes in me will live, EVEN THOUGH they die!!!!;

26 "and WHOEVER LIVES by believing in me WILL NEVER DIE. Do you believe this?

YEAH....only nutcases would believe that!!
John

Wurtulla, Australia

#164427 Feb 20, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
First off, "I am the resurrection and life" is absurd and grammatically incorrect. The language is foolish. He had not even died and had not been even resurrected yet.
Jesus did not say, "I resurrect and give life".
And the woman did not acknowledge that he was the resurrection and life. She straight away accepted him only as messiah.
These are ridiculous and meaningless absurd stories, which were used to impress ignorant fools.
Even the LORD Almighty God never used that kind of absurd language. First we heard about the absurdity, "Before Abraham was born, I am" and now this.
You are beyond stupid.
Jesus is a part of God, therefore He has always existed.
And stop quibbling. The meaning is clear to anybody not twisted by islam.
Why wont you explain to us the despicable character of mad mo the raping butchering paedophile tyrant and how such a sick dog could be a prophet?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164428 Feb 20, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world!
God has brought about the victory through the blood of martyrs and the Lamb of God! Rome was conquered without a shot being fired. God will once more bring about His victory in the conversion of muslims throughout the world.
When did your pagan god say he was sending a lamb to take away the sins of gentiles?LOL
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164429 Feb 20, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
You are beyond stupid.
Jesus is a part of God, therefore He has always existed.
And stop quibbling. The meaning is clear to anybody not twisted by islam.
Why wont you explain to us the despicable character of mad mo the raping butchering paedophile tyrant and how such a sick dog could be a prophet?
lol...
Jesus is part of god?lol...
I thought Jesus is your god!!!!
How can be your god part of your god???!!!
This is beyond belief...!

Ah...perhaps this god is half lamb and half man...
and BJ is the lamb part!!!!!

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#164430 Feb 20, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
This is another absurd verse that does not fit in the exchange between Jesus and Martha.
You can't even get the verse reference right., because you copy and paste but never read before posting.
This is how the exchange went on in John 11::
"21 “Lord,” Martha said to Jesus,“if you had been here, my brother would not have died. 22 But I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask.”
23 Jesus said to her,“Your brother will rise again.”
24 Martha answered,“I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”
25 Jesus said to her,“I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”
27 “Yes, Lord,” she replied,“I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”
Martha already knew about resurrection at the last day and it was nothing new.
Read her answer in 27, which shows she accepted him as messiah only. We don't see her acknowledging that Jesus was resurrection and life.
“I am the resurrection and the life. " is another absurd line.
This is another forgery in John.
Martha acknowledged that Jesus is the Son of God.

Christ.
Meaning: anointed, the Greek translation of the Hebrew word translated “Messiah”

Christ is the official title of our Lord, occurring 1,514 in the New Testament. It denotes that he was anointed or consecrated to his great redemptive work as Prophet, Priest, and King of his people.

He is Jesus the Christ (Acts 17:3; 18:5; Matt. 22:42), the Anointed One. He is thus spoken of by Isaiah (61:1), and by Daniel (9:24-26), who describes him as “Messiah the Prince.”

The Messiah is the same person as “the seed of the woman”(Gen. 3:15), "the seed of Abraham" (Gen. 22:18), the "Prophet like unto Moses" (Deut. 18:15), "the priest after the order of Melchizedek" (Ps. 110:4), "the rod out of the stem of Jesse" (Isa. 11:1, 10), the “Immanuel,” the virgin's son (Isa. 7:14), "the branch of Jehovah" (Isa. 4:2), and “the messenger of the covenant”(Mal. 3:1).

This is he “of whom Moses in the law and the prophets did write.” The Old Testament Scripture is full of prophetic declarations regarding the Great Deliverer and the work he was to accomplish.

Jesus the Christ is Jesus the Great Deliverer, the Anointed One, the Savior of men. This name denotes that Jesus was divinely appointed, commissioned, and accredited as the Savior of men (Hebrews 5:4; Isa. 11:2-4; 49:6; John 5:37; Acts 2:22).

Which God did, by him - The Lord Jesus himself often traced his power to do these things to his commission from the Father, but he did it in such a way as to show that he was closely united to him, John 5:19, John 5:30.

Peter here says that God did these works by Jesus Christ, to show that Jesus was truly sent by him, and that therefore he had the seal and attestation of God.

The same thing Jesus himself said, John 5:36, "The work which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me."

The great works which God has made in creation, as well as in redemption, he is represented as having done by his Son, Hebrews 1:2, "By whom also he made the worlds," John 1:3; Colossians 1:15-19.

The Father appointed Jesus to do certain things he intrusted in Jesus hands to accomplish.

To finish - To do or to perform until the task is completed.
The word is applied to the "termination" of anything, as we say a task is "ended" or a work is completed.
So Jesus said, when he expired, It is "finished" John 19:30.

Jesus came to "accomplish" a certain work; and hence we see the reason why he so often guarded his life and sought his safety until the task was fully completed.

These works or miracles bore witness of Jesus; that is, they showed that Jesus was sent from God, because none but God could perform them.

Jesus testified: The Father and I are One.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#164431 Feb 20, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
***John was written by many "johns" in their Johnnies after taking many crates of the unholy spirit known as johnnie walker.
***What does "S"on of "G"od mean?
Try writing that in Jesus' language without "upper cases"?
MESSIAH was/is a concept within the Jewish religion.
Did they expect their Messiah to be God, begotten "S"on of "G"od or even a Son of God? NO!
*** The "comma" son of god is a big lie....
Messiah,(COMMA), son of god is an invention by writers who invented "S"ons for your Pagan gods by HIJACKING Jewish books!
***You have MANY (not even THREE) Pagan gods..HEAVENLY daddy god, EARTHLY mummy/daughter/wifey gods, MIXED UP HEAVENLY/EARTHLY son, MIXED UP EARTHLY/HEAVENLY ghostly spirit....
*** "christians" are being disingenuous by making these into one by DRAGGING in Jewish books despite their VEHEMENT opposition.
LOL...
25. "The one who believes in me will live, EVEN THOUGH they die!!!!;
26 "and WHOEVER LIVES by believing in me WILL NEVER DIE. Do you believe this?
YEAH....only nutcases would believe that!!
More like the Muslim Muhammadan's don't believe on God.

Your post reflects your Muslim belief in Muhammad as your god.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164432 Feb 20, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
Martha acknowledged that Jesus is the Son of God.
Christ.
Meaning: anointed, the Greek translation of the Hebrew word translated “Messiah”
Christ is the official title of our Lord, occurring 1,514 in the New Testament. It denotes that he was anointed or consecrated to his great redemptive work as Prophet, Priest, and King of his people.
He is Jesus the Christ (Acts 17:3; 18:5; Matt. 22:42), the Anointed One. He is thus spoken of by Isaiah (61:1), and by Daniel (9:24-26), who describes him as “Messiah the Prince.”
The Messiah is the same person as “the seed of the woman”(Gen. 3:15), "the seed of Abraham" (Gen. 22:18), the "Prophet like unto Moses" (Deut. 18:15), "the priest after the order of Melchizedek" (Ps. 110:4), "the rod out of the stem of Jesse" (Isa. 11:1, 10), the “Immanuel,” the virgin's son (Isa. 7:14), "the branch of Jehovah" (Isa. 4:2), and “the messenger of the covenant”(Mal. 3:1).
This is he “of whom Moses in the law and the prophets did write.” The Old Testament Scripture is full of prophetic declarations regarding the Great Deliverer and the work he was to accomplish.
Jesus the Christ is Jesus the Great Deliverer, the Anointed One, the Savior of men. This name denotes that Jesus was divinely appointed, commissioned, and accredited as the Savior of men (Hebrews 5:4; Isa. 11:2-4; 49:6; John 5:37; Acts 2:22).
Which God did, by him - The Lord Jesus himself often traced his power to do these things to his commission from the Father, but he did it in such a way as to show that he was closely united to him, John 5:19, John 5:30.
Peter here says that God did these works by Jesus Christ, to show that Jesus was truly sent by him, and that therefore he had the seal and attestation of God.
The same thing Jesus himself said, John 5:36, "The work which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me."
The great works which God has made in creation, as well as in redemption, he is represented as having done by his Son, Hebrews 1:2, "By whom also he made the worlds," John 1:3; Colossians 1:15-19.
The Father appointed Jesus to do certain things he intrusted in Jesus hands to accomplish.
To finish - To do or to perform until the task is completed.
The word is applied to the "termination" of anything, as we say a task is "ended" or a work is completed.
So Jesus said, when he expired, It is "finished" John 19:30.
Jesus came to "accomplish" a certain work; and hence we see the reason why he so often guarded his life and sought his safety until the task was fully completed.
These works or miracles bore witness of Jesus; that is, they showed that Jesus was sent from God, because none but God could perform them.
Jesus testified: The Father and I are One.
Think outside that box called "pagan lies"...

Christ attempts to define "Messiah".
Then liars try to turn Christ into son, "S"on, lord, "L"ord, god, and even God or "G"od.
This is CLEARLy blasphemy and you are going to hell for this.

Did "martha" acknowldge Jacob also was "S"of of "G"od or simply "s"on of "g"od!!!!

Lies upon lies makes up modern "christianity"

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#164433 Feb 20, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
When did your pagan god say he was sending a lamb to take away the sins of gentiles?LOL
Jesus is not a pagan god.
Muhammad lied. The Quran is the worship of the Jinn devil god called Allah.

Jesus is the "Son of God".
Christ.
Meaning: anointed, the Greek translation of the Hebrew word translated “Messiah”

Christ is the official title of our Lord, occurring 1,514 in the New Testament. It denotes that he was anointed or consecrated to his great redemptive work as Prophet, Priest, and King of his people.

He is Jesus the Christ (Acts 17:3; 18:5; Matt. 22:42), the Anointed One. He is thus spoken of by Isaiah (61:1), and by Daniel (9:24-26), who describes him as “Messiah the Prince.”

The Messiah is the same person as “the seed of the woman”(Gen. 3:15), "the seed of Abraham" (Gen. 22:18), the "Prophet like unto Moses" (Deut. 18:15), "the priest after the order of Melchizedek" (Ps. 110:4), "the rod out of the stem of Jesse" (Isa. 11:1, 10), the “Immanuel,” the virgin's son (Isa. 7:14), "the branch of Jehovah" (Isa. 4:2), and “the messenger of the covenant”(Mal. 3:1).

This is he “of whom Moses in the law and the prophets did write.” The Old Testament Scripture is full of prophetic declarations regarding the Great Deliverer and the work he was to accomplish.

Jesus the Christ is Jesus the Great Deliverer, the Anointed One, the Savior of men. This name denotes that Jesus was divinely appointed, commissioned, and accredited as the Savior of men (Hebrews 5:4; Isa. 11:2-4; 49:6; John 5:37; Acts 2:22).

Which God did, by him - The Lord Jesus himself often traced his power to do these things to his commission from the Father, but he did it in such a way as to show that he was closely united to him, John 5:19, John 5:30.

Peter here says that God did these works by Jesus Christ, to show that Jesus was truly sent by him, and that therefore he had the seal and attestation of God.

The same thing Jesus himself said, John 5:36, "The work which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me."

The great works which God has made in creation, as well as in redemption, he is represented as having done by his Son, Hebrews 1:2, "By whom also he made the worlds," John 1:3; Colossians 1:15-19.

The Father appointed Jesus to do certain things he intrusted in Jesus hands to accomplish.

To finish - To do or to perform until the task is completed.
The word is applied to the "termination" of anything, as we say a task is "ended" or a work is completed.
So Jesus said, when he expired, It is "finished" John 19:30.

Jesus came to "accomplish" a certain work; and hence we see the reason why he so often guarded his life and sought his safety until the task was fully completed.

These works or miracles bore witness of Jesus; that is, they showed that Jesus was sent from God, because none but God could perform them.

Jesus testified: The Father and I are One.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#164434 Feb 20, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
You are beyond stupid.
Jesus is a part of God, therefore He has always existed.
And stop quibbling. The meaning is clear to anybody not twisted by islam.
Why wont you explain to us the despicable character of mad mo the raping butchering paedophile tyrant and how such a sick dog could be a prophet?
No.

No. That Jesus is or was a part of God is, Horse Shit. See, John, the man is not on record for saying that. Jesus was just an obedient slave of God.

God is not a chunk of plasticine that God tore away a handful, threw it a feet away and it became Jesus. And then tore another handful, threw it away and it became the so-called Holy Spirit, another absurdity.

Jesus never existed before he was born. This is more factual. That Jesus was the Word before God, is another Horse Shit!

The Prophet of Islam was far more coherent than your incoherent Jesus. He succeeded, when Jesus failed. If those false stories spread by the filthy self-loathing Christian evangelists, were true, I would have explained. so, I have nothing to explain.

Since the Christian Bible is full of lies, I can't trust those assholes and bigots, who formed the Church and serve the Godless Church.

Now, tell me just after the silly and absurd episode of "I am the Resurrection and the life", why did Martha whisper into her sister's ear that Jesus had wanted her to meet outside the village?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#164435 Feb 20, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
Martha acknowledged that Jesus is the Son of God.
Another big lie! You really beat Paul, the Liar.

When and where?

Would love to read this latest bullshit. Can I have the lying Bulletin from the Godless Church, please?

Do you know what your problem is? Your problem is that you tell many lies and can't remember.

You have not even read your own Bible but we have. We know what is in there and we also know what is not there.

It is now time that you throw the two members of the Trinity out and worship the true LORD God in true spirit. This 'true spirit' that I mentioned, is not your Holy Spirit. OK?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164436 Feb 20, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>More like the Muslim Muhammadan's don't believe on God.
Your post reflects your Muslim belief in Muhammad as your god.
You really ought to wake up sometime in the next few decades dear skeptic.

Having read all your BJ fairy tales I realise how sinful I must have been, as a priest, giving even a hint that BJ was son of god.

Had I known then what I know now, I would not have even mentioned the ghost. Sadly I have to live with the guilt of ignoring the fact that people worshiped a man although I was very uncomfortable with the divinity of Jesus who to me was a

"Man of God but not God of man".

*** Holy Prophet Muhammed PBUH was NOT an egomaniac who went round landing his disciples in trouble telling them utter nonsense like..."

25. "The one who BELIEVES in ME will LIVE, EVEN THOUGH they die!!!!;
26 "and WHOEVER LIVES by believing in me WILL NEVER DIE.

******Muslims do NOT worship The Most Holy Prophet Muhammed PBUH who was a human like the rest of us.

We have a simple test..our touchstone in theology..

Use this TEST ON ANYTHING...and IF A "THING" PASSES the TEST then THAT "THING" IS GOD:

*** GOD, The ONE and ONLY.
*** GOD, the Eternal, Absolute in existence, not temporal or conditional or not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on GOD.
*** GOD begets not, nor is GOD begotten.
*** And there is NONE like unto GOD."

Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’ using the unique attributes of GOD, so that false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed.

****I am sorry your BJ gets BOOTED out without a question.

***Applying the above test we KNOW Holy Prophet Muhammed PBUH, is NOT God.
Simple.

**** Had Holy Prophet Muhammed PBUH been a Jew, he CERTAINLY would have been LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF BJ, as a Messiah candidate.
John

Wurtulla, Australia

#164437 Feb 20, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
No. That Jesus is or was a part of God is, Horse Shit. See, John, the man is not on record for saying that. Jesus was just an obedient slave of God.
God is not a chunk of plasticine that God tore away a handful, threw it a feet away and it became Jesus. And then tore another handful, threw it away and it became the so-called Holy Spirit, another absurdity.
Jesus never existed before he was born. This is more factual. That Jesus was the Word before God, is another Horse Shit!
The Prophet of Islam was far more coherent than your incoherent Jesus. He succeeded, when Jesus failed. If those false stories spread by the filthy self-loathing Christian evangelists, were true, I would have explained. so, I have nothing to explain.
Since the Christian Bible is full of lies, I can't trust those assholes and bigots, who formed the Church and serve the Godless Church.
Now, tell me just after the silly and absurd episode of "I am the Resurrection and the life", why did Martha whisper into her sister's ear that Jesus had wanted her to meet outside the village?
Look, you can keep talking shit and pretending you own God and you can keep following the evil cult of the murdering raping tyrant mad mo or you can wise up.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164438 Feb 20, 2013
Shamma wrote:
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Jesus is not a pagan god.
Muhammad lied. The Quran is the worship of the Jinn devil god called Allah.
Jesus is the "Son of God".
Christ.
Meaning: anointed, the Greek translation of the Hebrew word translated “Messiah”
Christ is the official title of our Lord, occurring 1,514 in the New Testament. It denotes that he was anointed or consecrated to his great redemptive work as Prophet, Priest, and King of his people.
He is Jesus the Christ (Acts 17:3; 18:5; Matt. 22:42), the Anointed One. He is thus spoken of by Isaiah (61:1), and by Daniel (9:24-26), who describes him as “Messiah the Prince.”
The Messiah is the same person as “the seed of the woman”(Gen. 3:15), "the seed of Abraham" (Gen. 22:18), the "Prophet like unto Moses" (Deut. 18:15), "the priest after the order of Melchizedek" (Ps. 110:4), "the rod out of the stem of Jesse" (Isa. 11:1, 10), the “Immanuel,” the virgin's son (Isa. 7:14), "the branch of Jehovah" (Isa. 4:2), and “the messenger of the covenant”(Mal. 3:1).
So Jesus said, when he expired, It is "finished" John 19:30.
Jesus came to "accomplish" a certain work; and hence we see the reason why he so often guarded his life and sought his safety until the task was fully completed.
These works or miracles bore witness of Jesus; that is, they showed that Jesus was sent from God, because none but God could perform them.
Jesus testified: The Father and I are One.
**** Please don't make a fool of yourself by quoting from the OT.

God did NOT tell the Jews I am coming down to die for you AND Gentile (gods and pigs) as Jesus!!!!

Tanach is NOT concerned with a Messiah who has been transformed into son of god and then to ghostly god!!

This in itself provides CLEAR proof to JEWS that your BJ is a liar and a seducer working for Lucifer.

They will NEVER change their opinion about BJ as long as you worship him.

You are confirming their doubts that BJ was a false messenger who attempted to take worship away from their L-rd G-d.

We have already established that your OT is just a sham for many other reasons:

-The Jews do NOT agree with your DELIBERATE mistranslation of their scriptures.

-You do not follow what is in the Tanach or even the OT. If you wish to do that there is only ONE way....BECOME A JEW.

- You use OT as "evidence" for BJ's divinity and NOT as books of guidance that are to be obeyed.

I asked a simple Question...but you haven't answered it..
****When did your pagan god say he was sending a lamb to take away the sins of gentiles?

You started you reply with..Jesus is not a pagan god!!!! Was I referring to BJ or the ghost or daddy? you decide!
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#164439 Feb 20, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Jesus testified: The Father and I are One.
I can also testify that God and I are one. What is the big deal? It simply means God and I are on the same side.

I am not saying that God and I are the same person and brother Jesus also did not say, "The Father and I are one and the same person."

Jesus was not a stupid ignorant fool like you guys, Shamma.

The day you stop looking at Jesus as your God, you will find the True God Almighty. Jesus is blocking your view.

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