Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256487 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#164145 Feb 17, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Not dimunition...it should read as diminution.
I lamost corrected your misspelling.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#164146 Feb 17, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Just realised!! you talked more rubbish than I first thought!!!
*** When I said "Jesus NEVER made any divinity claim; that he was God or god in human form who had come as his own son to die for the sins of gentiles".
You came back with an "ignorant classic" which was:
"And he shat and pissed his entire life, didn't he?"
You are right!!
He was also hiding ..and many thought he was a nutcase..not many took him seriously....He was not given any position of power...they didn't even know what he looked like...it took a hard up disiciple to point him out!!! women jeered him including the daughters of Jerusalem and those who saw him struggling on one/two donkey ride.
***When I said:
"If you are talking about God and Jesus at least try and get their proper permission by getting clear statements from them about Jesus' divinity!"
You come up with this dumb classic:
"Jesus forgave sin, in one Gospel account, and forgiveness of sin is God's prerogative, isn't it? In another Gospel account, Jesus claimed identity with YHWH, and even prexistence, which prompted his hearers to want to kill him as a blasphemer. "
I have already given my reply..ie: "Then the man should have forgiven everybody and run off back to daddy"!
*** Also...you are naive enough to "believe" that a punter was actually forgiven by GOD just because his servant Jesus said it!!!!
Jesus is NOT God and "BJ" from bible does many silly things.
There is NO proof whatsoever that the man was forgive by God.
God did not say form up above..."Yes you are forgiven as my servant Jesus has put in a request to me!"
Load of rubbish about pre existence..and you know it..
This man was talking in parables.
If he was God he would have said "I AM GOD" ..period.
So buford...you are CREATING GOD..in your own sad image!
Case closed..
Have you proven anything?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164147 Feb 17, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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So, what does a swastika, dot, square mean?- note, these entities are not symbols or conventions but are actual force formations that exist in the supraphysical dimensions where each has its own intrinsic meaning that corresponds to the particular degree of consciousness-energy expressed.
Explain the above living symbols.
All that you are up to here is to indulge in loose talk based on the puerile stuff found in Quran.
lol...
Swastika...on a funny note..you should ask that pizza boy about it...lol...!!
Come on...lighten up Joel!
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#164148 Feb 17, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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BU-ford...with all the best will in the world..you have a long way to go yet...
- If your mangod "forgave" sins, then why the HELL did he kill himself for the sins of "gentiles" who were DOGS and PIGS to him?
He could have simply said..."Hey mankind..you are forgiven and I am off back to daddfy"!!!
Even worse...your callous mangod lured the poor JEWS to get him MURDERED!!
Surely based just on that bit of premeditation....your mangod is a deceiver extraordinaire!
- now you know why I have to repeat. You refuse to learn!
- You keep saying God can do what "he" wills....while all the time you keep MEANING..."God will do what i will"!!!
Reflect on this...realise your folly...embrace islam...the only answer to your problems..
Bless...
You were never a Christian.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#164149 Feb 17, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>

I lamost corrected your misspelling.
Oh yeah, thanks.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#164150 Feb 17, 2013
Dear Frijoles, the following is given out of love. Read and understand and CHANGE.

"HIV among Israeli gay men up 55% since 2005
Ministry figures: Infection is five times more common among gays than among straights."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/hiv-amon...
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#164151 Feb 17, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>

That was of great help in understanding the abstruse content of your post.;p
Yes.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#164152 Feb 17, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
embrace islam...the only answer to your problems..
Bless...
IOW, kiss Mohammad's ass, and even the blasted meteorite, and MAYBE I'll get past the torments of the grave when I die and then get to strut about heaven with an eternal erection and screw scads of houris who never get pregnant!!!
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#164153 Feb 17, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Swastika...on a funny note..you should ask that pizza boy about it...lol...!!
I am dead serious.

Swastika, circle, ripple of light/water, dot, ascending flight of steps, square, triangle, coiled up serpent and the like are force formations found on the vital and lower mind planes with each having a specific meaning and power of realization determined by the expressed degree of consciousness-energy.

So, what do each of these living symbols mean?

The mathematicians and poets intuitively discover these forms in intense states of concentration with the partial meaning revealed to them, while the mystics experience the same by merging in the formations to know their thatness.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#164154 Feb 17, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Dear dear Sham.....
We are NOT talking here about God of Abraham as worshipped by Jews.
You are making an EXTRAORDINARY claim that a Jewish man is your mangod.
Therfore, the onus is on you to convince others with your EXTRAORDINARY proof to your EXTRAORDINARY pagan claim.
Jesus "disappeared" around 33AD
Galatians...circa 50AD if that. No originals to be seen.
John Circa 100Ad if that. No originals to be seen.
Jesus NEVER saw a single word from your "god"'s books written by men!!
You quote from these books that have never been see or proof read by Jesus.
Unless Jesus himself makes CLEAR statement that he is God in human form who came as his own son to die for the sins of gentiles as well as Jews (while he made DIRECT claim that he came only for the Jews!) on a roman pagan cross...and by accepting his sacrifice and by believing in him one can have eternal life!!! THERE IS NO SUCH CLAIM FROM JESUS.
So You have a choice...keep worshipping that poor Jewish man as your god and condemn him to hell in hot excrement and semen as claimed in Talmud....OR...
Simple love and respect him as God's messenger to the Jews and worship only the TRUE GOD who is ALLAH.
Your call..........
Muslims believe that Allah is one and incomparable and the purpose of existence is to love and serve Allah.[1][2] Muslims also believe that Islam is the complete and universal version of a primordial faith that was revealed at many times and places before, including through Abraham, Moses and Jesus, whom they consider prophets.[3] They maintain that the previous messages and revelations have been partially misinterpreted or altered over time,[4] but consider the Arabic Qur'an to be both the unaltered and the final revelation of Allah.

The primordial faith Alex, began in the garden of Eden with the creation of Adam and Eve by God.
The universal primordial faith that began with Adam and
Eve is based on Adam and Eve accepting Satan's trust over God.

The Quran says:Quran says (English meaning translation):
"O Adam! dwell you and your wife in the Garden, and enjoy (its good things) as you wish: but don't approach this tree, or you run into harm and transgression.
" Then began Satan to whisper suggestions to them, bringing openly before their minds all their shame that was hidden from them (before): he said:
"Your Lord only forbade you this tree, for not becoming angels or being alive for ever."
And he [Satan] swore to them both, that he was their sincere adviser.

By deceit, Satan brought about their fall: when they tasted of the tree, their shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together the leaves of the garden over their bodies. And their Lord called them: "Did I not forbid you that tree, and tell you that Satan was an avowed enemy to you?" They said: "Our Lord! We have wronged our own souls: If you (Allah) don't forgive us and don't bestow upon us your Mercy, we shall certainly be lost." (Allah) said: "Get both down with enmity between yourselves (mankind). On earth will be your dwelling-place and your means of livelihood,- for a time." He said: "Therein shall you live, and therein shall you die; but from it shall you be taken out (at last)."

So, according to the Quran, the primordial faith of human beings, from the beginning, is trusting in Satan; of which Islam claims Muhammad is the final prophet sent by Allah to preserve the faith in Satan as mans sincere adviser.

" (Allah) said: "Get both down with enmity between yourselves (mankind).
Synonyms: enmity, hostility, antagonism, animosity, rancor, antipathy, animus
These nouns refer to the feeling or expression of deep-seated ill will. Enmity is hatred such as might be felt for an enemy: the wartime enmity of the two nations.

But the true God, the creator of Human life sent Jesus to save us humans from allowing Satan to destroy the good created in man by God.
Sorry Alex, Islam chose the wrong God.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#164155 Feb 17, 2013
Alex,

IOW, you don't know what the living symbols personify.

Expected!
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#164157 Feb 17, 2013
More excerpts from the writings of Fritjof Capra later. He and his team of experts drawn from different disciplines are only partially correct.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#164158 Feb 17, 2013
SHAMMA,

Please shut up.

The crap preached by Jesus, the failed savior and fake messiah, is of no use.

Move on.

Go beyond Jesus intellectually, morally and experientially.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164159 Feb 17, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>IOW, kiss Mohammad's ass, and even the blasted meteorite, and MAYBE I'll get past the torments of the grave when I die and then get to strut about heaven with an eternal erection and screw scads of houris who never get pregnant!!!
See what I mean...you are happy to worship a nutcase who was a total failure... who was seducing lonely women...doing all sorts of stupid stuff....and yet you refuse to worship God.
You are still earth bound...you talk about a man because you worship a man.
I worship GOD. Men make mistakes God doesn't.
I simply can't believe that you are THIS dumb after studying the Gospels...to even believe that BJ did anything credible!!
BJ was a total failure. his disciples were dumb..BJ was caught and given a good hiding...and then nailed to a pole!
You call this success?
BJ came to LEAD the JEWS....but they made him BLEED to death!
How does that make him your God.
You have no real scriptural knowledge.
You believe the rubbish made up by nutters after BJ disappeared.
Pathetic.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#164160 Feb 17, 2013
Excerpts from the Gospel of Barnabas, Part-54

Chapter 113 Parable of Fig tree

.. Let every one therefore beware of sloth, and much more he that does penance; because every tree that bears not good fruit shall be cut down and cast into the fire.

There was a citizen who had a vineyard, and in the midst thereof had a garden, which had a fine fig-tree; whereon for three years when the owner came he found no fruit, and seeing every other tree bare fruit there he said to his vinedresser: "Cut down this bad tree, for it cumbers the ground." The vinedresser answered: "Not so, my lord, for it is a beautiful tree." "Hold your peace," said the owner, "for I care not for useless beauties.

You should know that the palm and the balsam are nobler than the fig. But I had planted in the courtyard of my house a plant of palm and one of balsam, which I had surrounded with costly walls, but when these bare no fruit, but leaves which heaped themselves up and putrefied the ground in front of the house, I caused them both to be removed. And how shall I pardon a fig-tree far from the house, which cumbers my garden and my vineyard where every other tree bears fruit? Assuredly I will not suffer it any longer."

Then said the vinedresser: "Lord, the soil is too rich. Wait, therefore, one year more, for I will prune the fig-plant's branches, and take away from it the richness of the soil, putting in poor soil with stones, and so shall it bear fruit." The owner answered: "Now go and do so; for I will wait, and the fig-plant shall bear fruit." Understand you this parable?" The disciples answered: "No, Lord, therefore explain it to us."

Chapter 114 Fig Tree Continued

Jesus answered: "Truly I say to you, the owner is God, and the vinedresser is his Law. God, then, had in paradise the palm and the balsam; for Satan is the palm and the first man the balsam. Then did he cast out because they bare not fruit of good works, but uttered ungodly words that were the condemnation of many angels and many men. Now that God has man in the world, in the midst of his creatures that serve God, all of them, according to his precept: and man, I say, bearing no fruit, God would cut him down and commit him to hell, seeing he pardoned not the angel and the first man, punishing the angel eternally, and the man for a time.…

Said John: "Master, to work is a fitting thing, but this ought the poor to do." Jesus answered: "Yes, for they cannot do otherwise. But know you not that good, to be good, must be free from necessity? Thus the sun and the other planets are strengthened by the precepts of God so that they cannot do otherwise, wherefore they shall have no merit...

Note: This parable is available in Other Gospels too but here it is better presented- MUQ
(Abridged)
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#164161 Feb 17, 2013
SALUTE ALL, FOLLOW NONE:

Salute all, follow none.

Imbibe useful information from various sources even from the criminal, human sacrificer, tree, animal, insect, rock, demon, cannibal or pagan since varying degrees of truth inhere in everything but follow only those bits of knowledge that're rational and uplifting and which can be verified either through objective or subjective means. Be not a slave to any prophet and the God or G-d he represents since that would be limitation, a serious limitation, and a source of bigotry. If you're sincere and have the higher capacity, the Higher Nature will guide your footsteps always and at all times and open up your being to the subtler influences. Yes!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164162 Feb 17, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Alex,
IOW, you don't know what the living symbols personify.
Expected!
I do know Joel...but I am sure you know better..
Although I personally don't wish to indulge in them.
Forgive me if I am not too interested in Kundilini coiled serpent -dormant power/shakthi or manifesting as kali durga devi etc or many other representation of your view of greater conscience/god/force or omnipresence of the absolute.
From Kabbala to Witchcraft to nutcraft..with triangle inside circle to 7 circle...to all sorts of representations..
Don't impress me and don't have the time....spooks me.

I have a good reason to get Colonic to explain the Swastika or su asati....
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#164163 Feb 17, 2013
THE ULTIMATE AIM:

The ultimate aim is to merge with the varying degrees of consciousness and energy on all the planes of the manifestation/universe and finally to unite or rather re-unite with the absolute itself and thereafter to manifest the supreme light of the origin in the gradations of the manifestation to perfect it so that it vibrates in unison with its source - the absolute.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#164164 Feb 17, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Very true Maat.
Discussions are good if we have some real material...but with skeptic shamma, paul WV, buford and ignorant colonna...we are indeed scraping the barrel...
peace.
I'm watching Günther Jauch interviews with victims of kidnap and violence. The aftermath in many ways worse then the event.
Amongst them Natascha Kampusch.
She said something salient as in getting religious tuition, the subject forgiveness.
She was kidnapped from the age of 10 til her 18th, when she escaped, so that must imply that her kidnapper thought her some principles. I tried searching the net as to whether she meant what she recalled from a younger age of after the event.

She was not a prototypical sacrificiallamb but also had an understanding for the kidnapper to such an extend that she could outwit him.
So the following, inspired by an article of DeSmet for his thesis, is going to be about René Girard, Lady Gaga, Natascha Kampusch and Jesus Christ.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#164165 Feb 17, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
I do know Joel...but I am sure you know better..
Although I personally don't wish to indulge in them.
Forgive me if I am not too interested in Kundilini coiled serpent -dormant power/shakthi or manifesting as kali durga devi etc or many other representation of your view of greater conscience/god/force or omnipresence of the absolute.
From Kabbala to Witchcraft to nutcraft..with triangle inside circle to 7 circle...to all sorts of representations..
Don't impress me and don't have the time....spooks me.
I have a good reason to get Colonic to explain the Swastika or su asati....
Muslims believe that Allah is one and incomparable and the purpose of existence is to love and serve Allah.[1][2] Muslims also believe that Islam is the complete and universal version of a primordial faith that was revealed at many times and places before, including through Abraham, Moses and Jesus, whom they consider prophets.[3] They maintain that the previous messages and revelations have been partially misinterpreted or altered over time,[4] but consider the Arabic Qur'an to be both the unaltered and the final revelation of Allah.

The primordial faith Alex, began in the garden of Eden with the creation of Adam and Eve by God.
The universal primordial faith that began with Adam and
Eve is based on Adam and Eve accepting Satan's trust over God.

The Quran says:Quran says (English meaning translation):
"O Adam! dwell you and your wife in the Garden, and enjoy (its good things) as you wish: but don't approach this tree, or you run into harm and transgression.
" Then began Satan to whisper suggestions to them, bringing openly before their minds all their shame that was hidden from them (before): he said:
"Your Lord only forbade you this tree, for not becoming angels or being alive for ever."
And he [Satan] swore to them both, that he was their sincere adviser.

By deceit, Satan brought about their fall: when they tasted of the tree, their shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together the leaves of the garden over their bodies. And their Lord called them: "Did I not forbid you that tree, and tell you that Satan was an avowed enemy to you?" They said: "Our Lord! We have wronged our own souls: If you (Allah) don't forgive us and don't bestow upon us your Mercy, we shall certainly be lost." (Allah) said: "Get both down with enmity between yourselves (mankind). On earth will be your dwelling-place and your means of livelihood,- for a time." He said: "Therein shall you live, and therein shall you die; but from it shall you be taken out (at last)."

So, according to the Quran, the primordial faith of human beings, from the beginning, is trusting in Satan; of which Islam claims Muhammad is the final prophet sent by Allah to preserve the faith in Satan as mans sincere adviser.

" (Allah) said: "Get both down with enmity between yourselves (mankind).
Synonyms: enmity, hostility, antagonism, animosity, rancor, antipathy, animus
These nouns refer to the feeling or expression of deep-seated ill will. Enmity is hatred such as might be felt for an enemy: the wartime enmity of the two nations.

But the true God, the creator of Human life sent Jesus to save us humans from allowing Satan to destroy the good created in man by God.
Sorry Alex, Islam chose the wrong God.

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