Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 209,284

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163478 Feb 14, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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We have the original Quran. Why don't you come and see it for youerself.
Quran is in the SAME language as the HOLY PROPHET and the verses are as passed on from him.
You can choose to ignore this.
But NOW show us the books from your mangod in HIS language!
You don't have a SINGLE original!
Your mangod has NEVER seen a SINGLE word of NT!!!
Just think about that!!
Stop making a fool of yourself.
The original koran had not punctuation marks. Show me the original koran with no punctuation marks.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163479 Feb 14, 2013
Shamma wrote:
The Most Holy Trinity: a Union of Love
It is said that a people's values can be seen in the god they worship. For Christians,``God is love''(1 Jn 4:8). But a God who is love seems like a philosophical impossibility. How can one God, who is perfect, lacking nothing in himself and possessed of no dependence on creatures, be love when love necessitates a relation to another?
The resolution of this paradox God himself has revealed to us: God is perfect unity, but a unity of three Divine Persons-- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-- who are each equally divine. The Father, Son, and Spirit exist from all eternity. None precedes the other in time, but each are related to the others by a relationship that orders them with respect to the others.
The ever-living, all-knowing, almighty God the Father exists from all eternity and is the source of all perfection created and uncreated.
The self-conception and self-expression of the perfect Being is so complete that it is another person: God the Son, the image of the invisible Father,``the only-begotten Son of God, begotten from the Father before all the ages, light from light, true God from true God, begotten not made, consubstantial with the Father, through whom all things came to be''(Nicene-Constantipolitan Creed).
The love between the Father and the Son is so perfect that it too is another person: the Holy Spirit ``the holy, the lordly and life-giving one, proceeding forth from the Father [and the Son], co-worshipped and co-glorified with Father and Son''(ibid.).
But if the Holy Spirit is the love between the Father and the Son, how can God as a whole be called Love? Each person shares equally in the divine nature, so that each person shares equally in the perfections of the others. The only distinction between the persons of the Trinity is their mutual relations.
None of the persons exists in respect to himself alone, but each exists relatively to the other two:
...the ``three persons'' who exist in God are the reality of word and love in their attachment to each other. They are not substances, personalities in the modern sense, but the relatedness whose pure actuality... does not impair unity of the highest being but fills it out.
He is not called Father with reference to himself but only in relation to the Son; seen by himself he is simply God.''
Here the decisive point comes beautifully to light.``Father'' is purely a concept of relationship.
Only in being-for the other is he Father; in his own being-in-himself he is simply God.
Person is the pure relation of being related, nothing else.
Relationship is not something extra added to the person, as it is with us; it only exists at all as relatedness.
....the First Person [the Father] does not beget the Son in the sense of the act of begetting coming on top of the finished Person; it is the act of begetting, of giving oneself, of streaming forth. It is identical with the act of giving.(Joseph Ratzinger Introduction to Christianity, pp. 131-132; cf. Augustine, Enarationes in Psalmos 68; De Trinitate VII, 1, 2.)
Each of the persons of the Trinity lives completely for the others; each is a complete gift of self to the others. The complete self-giving not only constitutes the individual persons of the Trinity, but also their inseparable oneness.
Thus, for Christians the very basis of all reality is the loving communion of persons that is the Holy Trinity.
Thanks for this divine comedy central. Enjoyed reading the hilarious material.

The unholy Trinity had nothing to do with Jesus at all.

It was concocted and created and sold to win pagan converts.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#163480 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
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What has this off topic junk got to do with what I wrote?
I wrote this:
The line, "Before Abraham was born, I am", is meaningless, absurd, incomplete and grammatically wrong.
If Jesus had wanted to say that he was there before Abraham, he would have said, "Before Abraham was born, I was there".
If he wanted to say that he was the so-called "I am", then he would have said, "Before Abraham was born, I was the I am". And the Jews would have killed Jesus there and then.
These incomplete and absurd lines were easily sold to ignorant pagans, who were not literate.
I don't know how can you educated folks believe that Jesus was saying that he was 'the I am" before Abraham was born?
He was with God, according to your John. Right? So he was not God, the God. Right?
So, how could he have been the I AM of the Hebrews?
You are missing the point.
God is One!
God is not called Father with reference to himself but only in relation to the Son; seen by himself he is simply God.''

Here the decisive point comes beautifully to light.``Father'' is purely a concept of relationship.
Only in being-for the other is he Father; in his own being-in-himself he is simply God.

Jesus said: The Father is in Me, and I am in the Father.
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit that proceeds from the Father and Son.

Together they are worshiped and glorified as One.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163481 Feb 14, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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The original koran had not punctuation marks. Show me the original koran with no punctuation marks.
We can read Qur'aan without punctuation and any other mark. No problem.

When you talk to people, do you use punctuation marks?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163482 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
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On my desk and in every Muslim's home.
The original koran does not exist and the old manuscripts are like a hundred or more years after mohammad died. You see, you can fool everyone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Q...
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163483 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
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We can read Qur'aan without punctuation and any other mark. No problem.
When you talk to people, do you use punctuation marks?
A muslim added them to the koran not me. Are you saying he didn't know what he was doing?

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163484 Feb 14, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Ok and what is the original bible supposed to be shamma?
Are you suggesting that the writers of mark matt luke and john are gods?
NOT a SINGLE verse of your NT was EVER seen by Jesus.
Are you not concerend about that?
Therefore, it is the work of men who are now gods to you!
What's new?
If you can worship one man why can't you worship them all!
So..you worship..BJ..paul..mary...pope .. tom dick and harry as your god!
Which Bible are you referring to, Bro? The Catholics' Bible or the Protestants' Bible?

Imagine Jesus on his second trip.

Protestants: Lord, here is your Bible.

Catholics: Lord, here is your Bible.

Jesus looks at both, counts the books and says, "Say what!"

Says, "I never gave any of this" and throws them away!

Church Bishops and Cardinals: "But Lord, "

Jesus: No buts, get lost, liars!

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163485 Feb 14, 2013
Shamma wrote:
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You are missing the point.
God is One!
God is not called Father with reference to himself but only in relation to the Son; seen by himself he is simply God.''
Here the decisive point comes beautifully to light.``Father'' is purely a concept of relationship.
Only in being-for the other is he Father; in his own being-in-himself he is simply God.
Jesus said: The Father is in Me, and I am in the Father.
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit that proceeds from the Father and Son.
Together they are worshiped and glorified as One.
Do you feel ashamed to say? "There is only one God". Please cut this Father and father balderdash out.

Can you differentiate between Father and father?

God was not Jesus' father and Jesus was not God's son. Period!

Can you go and buy oneness apple, please. If you like, you can but twoness apples or also threeness apples. Be prepared to be mocked by the fruit-seller.

Oneness, Nonsense! Took four centuries to develop!

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#163486 Feb 14, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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lol...
It is a great pity Jesus mentioned NOTHING about "Trinity"!!!
You guys do everything exactly opposite to what Jesus did!!!!
Comical!
Why don't you live like Jesus?
You want to see Father..? you MUST first DIE!
ALL HUMAN DIE!
LMAO at you Alex!
You can never come to the understanding of God.

God is Spirit Alex.
And we are to worship God in the Spirit, and you Alex being a Muslim are void of having the Holy Spirit of God within you.

Christians receive the Holy Spirit of God through baptism into Christ Jesus.

Muslims are Muhammadan's, Muslims follow the pagan religion of Muhammad, and worship the pagan god Muhammad called Allah..

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163487 Feb 14, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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A muslim added them to the koran not me. Are you saying he didn't know what he was doing?
No, I am not saying. It is clueless fools who say that.

Punctuation marks were added for non-Arab readers, who could read and recite it easily.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163488 Feb 14, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Jewish Jesus, the gentile BJ christ knew nothing about the Chinese.
Their average IQ is 10 times that of "johnny the aussie immigrant"!!
Jesus knew only people within the boundaries that he lived in. He did not have much knowledge about outside world. He was quite weak in History and Geography.

However, due credit must given to him where he was strong. He was far more brilliant and superior to the people, whom he chose and that was his biggest mistake. They understood nothing and poor chap had to explain to them in private. Lucky for them, he did not say in public, "Away from me you dumb fellows!"

Imagine Einstein talking to Shamma, John and Paul WV.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#163490 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Jesus knew only people within the boundaries that he lived in. He did not have much knowledge about outside world. He was quite weak in History and Geography.
However, due credit must given to him where he was strong. He was far more brilliant and superior to the people, whom he chose and that was his biggest mistake. They understood nothing and poor chap had to explain to them in private. Lucky for them, he did not say in public, "Away from me you dumb fellows!"
Imagine Einstein talking to Shamma, John and Paul WV.
Your mind lives in the world of make believe paganism.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#163491 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
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No, I am not saying. It is clueless fools who say that.
Punctuation marks were added for non-Arab readers, who could read and recite it easily.
What progress have Muslims made since becoming Mohammedan's?
None!
Muslims still follow the pagan moon god prophet Muhammad.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163492 Feb 14, 2013
WARRIOR HATES ALLAH wrote:
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Still trolling the threads are you?
Hey, how's Allah's daughter's el-Lat, el-Uzza, and Manat doing? Been screwing them lately?
~Warrior~
I write mostly here, asshole.

Think of the devil and the devil is here. Just left a note for you on the other thread. Help the polemic Christian goons here.

Those girls are now with Jesus. He is screwing them along with all the Marys, including Martha, his number two.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163493 Feb 14, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Your mind lives in the world of make believe paganism.
No.

I don't.

The world of make believe paganism is the world of Christianity. I do write about her absurdities.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#163494 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
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I write mostly here, asshole.
Think of the devil and the devil is here. Just left a note for you on the other thread. Help the polemic Christian goons here.
Those girls are now with Jesus. He is screwing them along with all the Marys, including Martha, his number two.
Degrading the Holiness of Jesus is what Muslim Muhammadan's do in fear of Muhammad's retribution from the grave.

Muhammad's dead BMZ rotting in hell.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#163495 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Which Bible are you referring to, Bro? The Catholics' Bible or the Protestants' Bible?
Imagine Jesus on his second trip.
Protestants: Lord, here is your Bible.
Catholics: Lord, here is your Bible.
Jesus looks at both, counts the books and says, "Say what!"
Says, "I never gave any of this" and throws them away!
Church Bishops and Cardinals: "But Lord, "
Jesus: No buts, get lost, liars!
Good questions brother...
lol...yet another reason why I gave up on "crisscross(eyed)-tianity "

Jesus seems to be delaying his second trip to avoid these nutcases...

Protestants: Lord, here is your Bible of about 66 books.
Catholics: Dear mangod, here is your holy Bible of about 73 books.
Greek Eastern Orth: EU man..here are 78 Euro bibles
Ethiopian Orthodox: hey man..here is your CD of 81 bibles.
Mormons..LDS...please please take these as ONLY 65!

Jesus looks at them all...
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now (NOR CAN I!!). But for NOW please get lost, liars as I have a Flying saucer to catch!"

He zooms off to daddy to sit on his right hand, never to return!

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163496 Feb 14, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Good questions brother...
lol...yet another reason why I gave up on "crisscross(eyed)-tianity "
Jesus seems to be delaying his second trip to avoid these nutcases...
Protestants: Lord, here is your Bible of about 66 books.
Catholics: Dear mangod, here is your holy Bible of about 73 books.
Greek Eastern Orth: EU man..here are 78 Euro bibles
Ethiopian Orthodox: hey man..here is your CD of 81 bibles.
Mormons..LDS...please please take these as ONLY 65!
Jesus looks at them all...
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now (NOR CAN I!!). But for NOW please get lost, liars as I have a Flying saucer to catch!"
He zooms off to daddy to sit on his right hand, never to return!
LOL!

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163497 Feb 14, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Degrading the Holiness of Jesus is what Muslim Muhammadan's do in fear of Muhammad's retribution from the grave.
Muhammad's dead BMZ rotting in hell.
Please refer to that half-naked Jesus Freak Warrior, who wrote this:

Still trolling the threads are you?

Hey, how's Allah's daughter's el-Lat, el-Uzza, and Manat doing? Been screwing them lately?

~Warrior~

It is degrading of the filthy polemic Christian mind, that I do. I am a mule-skinner.

Muhammad was an obedient slave of God just like the obedient slave Jesus.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#163498 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
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I write mostly here, asshole.
Think of the devil and the devil is here. Just left a note for you on the other thread. Help the polemic Christian goons here.
Those girls are now with Jesus. He is screwing them along with all the Marys, including Martha, his number two.
Talking of screwing this needs a mention..(we know the long ending is all a load of nonsense)..

Mark 16:9
After Jesus had "risen" early on the first day of that week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had "driven" out seven demons.

Risen! What has risen in the morning?
Risen enough to drill seven demons out of a woman to the shouts of "oh god" seven times!

After such a perfect prophecy fulfilling death on the pagan cross he still had demons inside Mary and a billion others to sort!!!

The demons now hav a new name...holy ghost!!!

Lies upon lies...as the gardener (men used to do gardening naked as it was very hot) was giving the woman one or was it seven?

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