Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 254815 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162563 Feb 9, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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You are confusing allah with God again. You know nothing about God, all you have is the ramblings of a man who said a spirit told him somebody named allah told him what to tell him.
Your god is NOT the GOD of Abraham Adam or Noah.
You worship a man.
Please answer the questions without diversion, deviation or hesitation....
Come on please Paul. Try your best.
You do know that "john" was made up by a bunch of naive folks who made many errors tryingt to promote a flesh god word of mangod.
Please PROVE to US where Jesus claims he was God.
You know you can't.
Therefore, you are lying.
TRY AGAIN...
You even said the I was not a priest. Now prove to me you know more than me.
You have to respond quoting chapter and verse instead of escaping.
Come on Paul don't let the Church down!
You made a claim that BJ and/or Jesus said to Jews he was God.
Now prove it from your Gospels!
Go on, give us chapter and verse, so our Jewish posters can also respond!(PROOF NEEDED PLEASE)
I you can prove that BJ (let alone Jesus) claimed he was God, then we have no hesitation in saying he was nuts!(PROVE TO US!)
Neither Jesus nor BJ claimed there were GOD.
The Holy Quran has authority over your ramblings.
Your holy books written by 3rd/4th century pagans and non theologians has as much authority over me as do the Harry Potter books.
Your books have to be written many times by many people to make them look believable but they are works of fiction that fail to measure up to even Harry potter books.
Why do you force yourself on Hebrew Abraham, Hebrew Isaac and Half Hebrew Ishmael? What have they got to do with you? WHAT GIVES YOPU MORE RIGHT THEN HEBREW ISHMAEL?LOL..
Did they ever admit that you are linked to them spiritually?(PROOF NEEDED PLEASE)
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162564 Feb 9, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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I heard that lying is an accepted form of proselytizing in islam.
You claim there are no goddesses and then you say there are, then you say there aren’t. That was like mohammad when he tried to win over the meccians.
Paul you are deluding yourself.
When did Abraham say you have links with him?
Are you mad?
You are an uninvited gate crasher to the Hebrew party!
What have you in common with Abraham?
Ishmael has everything in comon with his OWN father Abraham.
Just because jealous sarah wanted her son to have it all does not make it right.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
You are not Hebrew or Jew.
So stop harassing them!!
This is what they say about idol worshippers like you....

As soon as the KING MESSIAH will declare himself, He WILL DESTROY ROME and MAKE A WILDERNESS of it.

THORNS AND WEEDS will GROW IN POPE'S PALACE.

Then He will start a merciless war on non-Jews and will overpower them. He will slay them in masses, KILL THEIR KINGS and LAY WASTE THE WHOLE ROMAN LAND. He will say to the Jews:'I am the King Messiah for whom you have been waiting. TAKE THE SILVER AND GOLD FROM THE GOYIM.'"- Josiah 60, 6 Rabbi Abarbanel to Daniel 7, 13.

So dear Paul Abraham Isaac Jacob and clan have nothing to do with losers like you.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#162565 Feb 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed! I agree with that short but solid assessment.
The best examples:
Church father #1:
John 14:26 "and the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and remind you of all things that I said to you."
Church father #2:
"John 20:21 Jesus, therefore, said to them again,`Peace to you; according as the Father hath sent me, I also send you;' 22 and this having said, he breathed on [them], and saith to them,`Receive the Holy Spirit;"
And now the passages in the huge book...
I have exodus to resolve AND the dissertation on Luvian langauge waits AND I wanted to read up on some physics AND more subjects for the 101 on evolution.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162566 Feb 9, 2013
Irzath wrote:
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Oh god!
Yes there are many "gods" in Christianity and all are one according to them!!!

Let's repeat...

Who is the REAL God from this list so I can embrace him:
Please point him out dear Christian. Thanks....

1. God= father of son of "GOD"
2. God= father of son of "god the father"
3. God= ghost of father of son of "GOD"
4. God= ghost of father of son of "god the father"
5. God= spirit of father of son of "GOD"

6. God= spirit of father of son of "god the father"
7. God= son of man (son of Adam)
8. God= son of man (son of David)
9. God= son of man (son of Joseph)
10. God= son of "GOD" (who encompasses god the father)
11. God= son of "god the father" (who is part of GOD)
12. God= son of god the Holy Spirit (who is part of GOD)
13. God= son of god the holy ghost (who is part of GOD)
14. God= ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
15. God= ghost of son of man (son of David)
16. God= ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
17. God= ghost of son of "GOD"
18. God= ghost of son of "god the father"
19. God= ghost of son of "god the holy spirit"
20. God= ghost of son of "god the holy ghost"
21. God= spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
22. God= spirit of son of man (son of David)
23. God= spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
24. God= spirit of son of "GOD"
25. God= spirit of son of "god the father"
26. God= spirit of son of "god the holy spirit"
27. God= spirit of son of "god the holy ghost"
28. God= ghost of spirit of father of son of "GOD"
29. God= ghost of spirit of father of son of "god the father"
30. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
31. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of David)
32. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
33. God= ghost of spirit of son of "GOD"
34. God= ghost of spirit of son of "god the father"
35. God= ghost of spirit of son of god the holy spirit
36. God= ghost of spirit of son of god the holy ghost
37. God= spirit of ghost father of son of "GOD"
38. God= spirit of ghost of father of son of "god the father"
39. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
40. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of David)
41. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
42. God= spirit of ghost of son of "GOD"
43. God= spirit of ghost of son of "god the father"
44. God= spirit of ghost of son of god the holy spirit
45. God= spirit of ghost of son of god the holy ghost
46. God= "Risen" Jesus
47. God= "Risen" son of man (son of Adam)
48. God= "Risen" son of man (son of David)
49. God= "Risen" son of man (son of Joseph)
50. God= "Risen" son of "God"
51. God= "Risen" son of "god the father"
52. God= "Risen" son of "god the holy spirit"
53. God= "Risen" son of "god the holy ghost"
54. God= "Lord" of St Paul
55. God= "Christ" of St Paul
56. God= Millions of "Jesus" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
57. God= Millions of "Holy Spirits" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
58. God= Millions of "Holy Ghosts" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
59. God= The Jesus in heaven sitting on his own right hand watching himself VINDICTIVELY making footstool of enemies.

60. God= ALL of the above
61. God= NONE of the above
62. God= Any more to be added to the above

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#162567 Feb 9, 2013
SC is agnostic.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162568 Feb 9, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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The BV Mary is not a goddess. bmz said that god can only have a child by a goddess, so he must believe in goddesses; else his statement makes no sense. mohammad said there were three goddess in his koran and later took it out when he could not win over his enemy with saying this.
Paul, why did the "church" hide nearly 30 years of your god's life from public consumption?
Why does your church want us to believe that Mary is more than just a human being?
Thank you.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162569 Feb 9, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
Even if you change the subjects the meaning rest the same, unfortunately for you.
Can you not understand that this verse is so vague and that give too much power to Muhammad?
If you have to believe to the policemen or judge then one of them can order you to go with them and kill someone.
How you know are obeying to the ruler of the land, and not to the will of the policemen or judge ?
It will be wise to the ruler of the land to come in the open and tell to who people have to obey, and under which matter.
Those important things are missing, and this means that whatever idiocy Muhammad can came out with you have to obey.
Not to speak that the folks knew about this ruler of the land, say Allah, through Muhammad. So actually you don't know for sure the ruler gave to him such power.
"He who obeys the Messenger obeys Allah."
Sorry can you clarify your claim somewhere about comforter?
I thought you said "in my name" means the person has to bear the name of Jesus?
Please clarify..
or reproduce your claim..
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#162570 Feb 9, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>

Read Galatians 4

Gal 4:28 Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 30But what does the Scripture say?“Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.”c 31Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.
This is the filthiest verse in your Bible. This verse has ruined the peace of the world, courtesy Paul, who failed to buy out the Jews.

What is so great about this lowly verse from a wretched racist bigot?

The so-called free woman was the one, who gave the slave girl to her own husband and asked him to screw her and get a child.

And how come that miserable and wretched soul Paul did not write about another free woman Rebecca, who had twins. Issac was supposed to bless Esau and Jacob and his mother deceived Issac.

Where does Jesus fit in this filthy patch of the Christian tapestry? Please enlighten us.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162571 Feb 9, 2013
MAAT wrote:
SC is agnostic.
Thanks.
But I would like him to deny Jesus.
I have asked him specific questions.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#162572 Feb 9, 2013
Uhm the kittim, that acquired another meaning, then it meant Guti from assyria.

Alex wrote:
As soon as the KING MESSIAH will declare himself, He WILL DESTROY ROME and MAKE A WILDERNESS of it.

THORNS AND WEEDS will GROW IN POPE'S PALACE.

Then He will start a merciless war on non-Jews and will overpower them. He will slay them in masses, KILL THEIR KINGS and LAY WASTE THE WHOLE ROMAN LAND. He will say to the Jews:'I am the King Messiah for whom you have been waiting. TAKE THE SILVER AND GOLD FROM THE GOYIM.'"- Josiah 60, 6 Rabbi Abarbanel to Daniel 7, 13.

end quote

that sounds very familiar to a passage in the hadith. mohammed raiding a kingdom/town in nowadays irak (that has some historical problem, but soit)
Which showed them revenge and brought him acclaim and set the Islamic empire on it's way.

Yup, jews had workingking saviours.
Deliver or you are not a messiah, judgement after the work has been quality controlled.
No delivery makes you a metziah:'bad buy'
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162573 Feb 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Thank you and that is the most absurd of them all.
The Church fathers butchered God and did not even spare butchering John.
After the first translation by Wycliffe appeared in the 14th Century, the Church Mill in-charge of the Bible Mills, butchered John in the early part of 15th Century.
This is from John Wycliffe's original in the 14th Century English:
"CAP 1
1 In the bigynnyng was the word, and the word was at God, and God was the word.
2 This was in the bigynnyng at God.
3 Alle thingis weren maad bi hym, and withouten hym was maad no thing, that thing that was maad.
4 In hym was lijf, and the lijf was the liyt of men; and the liyt schyneth in derknessis,
5 and derknessis comprehendiden not it. "
And now the distortion by Bible Mills:
"John 1 Wycliffe Bible (WYC)
1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was at God, and God was the word.[In the beginning was the word, that is, God's Son, and the word was at God, and God was the word.]
2 This was in the beginning at God.
3 All things were made by him, and without him was made nothing [nought], that thing that was made.
4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men; 5 and the light shineth in darknesses, and [the] darknesses comprehended not it. "
I am sure the silent majority of international readers will eb shocked, when they read the gross
distortion and forgery, which was made only about 500 years ago.
Salaams
BMZ
You know what they did to Wycliffe?
"The Council of Constance declared Wycliffe (on 4 May 1415) a heretic and under the ban of the Church. It was decreed that his books be burned and his remains be exhumed. The exhumation was carried out in 1428 when, at the command of Pope Martin V, his remains were dug up, burned, and the ashes cast into the River Swift, which flows through Lutterworth. This is the most final of all posthumous attacks on John Wycliffe, but previous attempts had been made before the Council of Constance. The Anti-Wycliffite Statute of 1401 extended persecution to Wycliffe's remaining followers. The "Constitutions of Oxford" of 1408 aimed to reclaim authority in all ecclesiastical matters, specifically naming John Wycliffe in a ban on certain writings, and noting that translation of Scripture into English by unlicensed laity is a crime punishable by charges of heresy."

I know that part of the world quite well.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162574 Feb 9, 2013
MAAT wrote:
Uhm the kittim, that acquired another meaning, then it meant Guti from assyria.
Alex wrote:
As soon as the KING MESSIAH will declare himself, He WILL DESTROY ROME and MAKE A WILDERNESS of it.
THORNS AND WEEDS will GROW IN POPE'S PALACE.
Then He will start a merciless war on non-Jews and will overpower them. He will slay them in masses, KILL THEIR KINGS and LAY WASTE THE WHOLE ROMAN LAND. He will say to the Jews:'I am the King Messiah for whom you have been waiting. TAKE THE SILVER AND GOLD FROM THE GOYIM.'"- Josiah 60, 6 Rabbi Abarbanel to Daniel 7, 13.
end quote
that sounds very familiar to a passage in the hadith. mohammed raiding a kingdom/town in nowadays irak (that has some historical problem, but soit)
Which showed them revenge and brought him acclaim and set the Islamic empire on it's way.
Yup, jews had workingking saviours.
Deliver or you are not a messiah, judgement after the work has been quality controlled.
No delivery makes you a metziah:'bad buy'
lol..if Muhammed were to be a Jew, he would have been the Messiah without a doubt!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162575 Feb 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Ishmael will always remain like a fish bone stuck between the dentures of your Church.
Actually, it does not matter much to me, if you deny Ishmael being in the Covenant with Issac. He was the 2nd person of the Greatest Covenant of Losing Foreskin. Issac did not even exist when that happened.
Now, what was the Covenant with Issac?
Was it as follows?
"My covenant with you is that I will give you a wild hairy one and another hairless." Was Jacob bald?
How does Jesus fit in this patch here?
lol...Now Paul WV has to lose his foreskin before Isaac would recognise him?lol
oh dear..many muslims are ahead in that queue..
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#162576 Feb 9, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
lol...Now Paul WV has to lose his foreskin before Isaac would recognise him?lol
oh dear..many muslims are ahead in that queue..
lol!

Do you believe that Paul was circumcised, Alex? I don't think so. Only an uncircumcised would have caved in to the Gentiles, who were not ready to expose their dicks to get the chop!

Also, the elders in hiding, caved in to Paul, who had a majority of pagan converts behind him.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#162577 Feb 9, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
lol..if Muhammed were to be a Jew, he would have been the Messiah without a doubt!
Brilliant!
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#162578 Feb 9, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
You know what they did to Wycliffe?
"The Council of Constance declared Wycliffe (on 4 May 1415) a heretic and under the ban of the Church. It was decreed that his books be burned and his remains be exhumed. The exhumation was carried out in 1428 when, at the command of Pope Martin V, his remains were dug up, burned, and the ashes cast into the River Swift, which flows through Lutterworth. This is the most final of all posthumous attacks on John Wycliffe, but previous attempts had been made before the Council of Constance. The Anti-Wycliffite Statute of 1401 extended persecution to Wycliffe's remaining followers. The "Constitutions of Oxford" of 1408 aimed to reclaim authority in all ecclesiastical matters, specifically naming John Wycliffe in a ban on certain writings, and noting that translation of Scripture into English by unlicensed laity is a crime punishable by charges of heresy."
I know that part of the world quite well.
Yes, I am aware of that.

Have you read the texts of articles written by the Lollards, which have been only made available recently. They wrote about the forgeries and frauds by the Church and the absurdities in the Christian Bible.

If you read his translation, you will see how the gospels and other books of NT have been changed after the 14th Century.

rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#162580 Feb 9, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Muhammad was an inept mystic who had loads of dynamism but his dynamism bordered on insanity and savagery.
rabbee: well so what if muhammeds and your mysticism and insanity are not confluent? the potential difference, still creates turmoil and confusion. even where two streams meet, their is turmoil and confusion and treacherous undercurrents. and if you are not for me, here actually in TheTorah Happening. then you must be against both G-D, and me here in TheTorah Happening precisely, accuratly, and repeatably forever just again.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#162581 Feb 9, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
lol...Now Paul WV has to lose his foreskin before Isaac would recognise him?lol
oh dear..many muslims are ahead in that queue..
rabbee: well so are the roman catholics, but that still does not make them true to G-D either. just because you are circumcised, does not give catholics and muslems, the right to steal land that is G-D'S to proportion.

could of done it without all the hoopla, roaring and screaming. but you all mentally prefer all the hoopla, roaring, and screaming. and if you all prefer to be against G-D, then you are all going to get the physical hell and death you deserve.

the only thing your prejudice, against G-D here in TheTorah can add - is more pestilence, plague and famine.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#162582 Feb 9, 2013
there is only one reason, jews are in Ysrael. it is because G-D desires for them to be physically there. even if all of you, are against G-D doing this. and since G-D, desires jews to return to Ysrael, then i am for it too.

and so what i they are not true to G-D, actually here in TheTorah now. neither are, any of you.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162583 Feb 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
lol!
Do you believe that Paul was circumcised, Alex? I don't think so. Only an uncircumcised would have caved in to the Gentiles, who were not ready to expose their dicks to get the chop!
Also, the elders in hiding, caved in to Paul, who had a majority of pagan converts behind him.
lol.......
In the absence of evidence to the contrary, we can safely say that both Pauls are uncircumcised, BMZ!!

The coward claims that he personally de-foreskinned Timothy, whose father was supposed to be Greek, "because of the Jews" that were in town!!

Acts 16:3
Paul wanted this man to go with him; and he took him and circumcised him because of the Jews who were in those parts, for they all knew that his father was a Greek!!!!!!!!!!

Paul was all things to all men- a real cameleon!

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