Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 209,619

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161868 Feb 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
@ Paul
Please read my post to Dr. Knucklehead (Buford) and tell me why did Peter not baptise in the name of the alleged three?
Why did Peter baptise only in the name of Jesus?
It shows that some lying and evil spirit forced the Church fathers to forge "In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit".
And how can you guys gloat over this fraud and forgery in Matthews 28, when Peter baptized only in Jesus' name???
St Peter was only talking about by whose authority one is baptized and not giving the fomula for baptism. He could say: "By the authority of Jesus Name, I baptize you:-In the Name of Father, Son and Holy Spirit.'"
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#161869 Feb 5, 2013
Paul wrote:
01 The popes are infallible and impeccable. The Holy Spirit guide the Catholic Church through the pope as its visible head, preserving her from error.

02 The St Peter was the first pope of the Catholic Church and it is history. Jesus gave St Peter the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven and whatsoever he bond and loosed on earth was bond and loosed in Heaven. St Peter pasted these Keys to his successor and so on to the present day pope.

03 Godís Catholic Church whom St Paul was endorsed by accept what St Paul preached/taught to this day..

04 We are only under the Law of Love..

The Jewish followers of Jesus can be baptized and come to the Catholic Church.
Ans.

01. I think the "Holy Spirit" is the most pitiable thing in the whole Christianity. Any one and every one can "order" it to appear any time they wish.!!

If every Pope is infallible, then why so many Popes were declared Anti Pope after they died? And why the Pope John Paul II apologized for actions of past Popes regarding Jews and Crusades?

02. St. Peter was NEVER declared or called a Pope. He never handed over any Keys of Church to St. Paul. It is all in your imaginations.

03. So you mean that all these thousands of daughter churches and part of the same "Mother Church". Vow this is news to me.

Solving your problems thru discussion is very good, but creating new religion and dogmas is not correct.

04. I know excess of every thing is wrong and so is the misuse of the word Love. If Love was to solve all problems, there never would have been the need of any army or police. Is there any nation that is free from Police and Army?

If Jews can follow their dietary laws then why Christians should also not follow them? Jesus did not abolish any of those laws.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161870 Feb 5, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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I am glad to hear you admit you do not follow God.
Where did you hear that? Which God are you talking about? Your God or the God of the Jews and Muslims?

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161871 Feb 5, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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St Peter was only talking about by whose authority one is baptized and not giving the fomula for baptism. He could say: "By the authority of Jesus Name, I baptize you:-In the Name of Father, Son and Holy Spirit.'"
Fortunately he did not say that. Acts 2 is quite clear. No trinitarian formula in there. The Church missed forging it.

Keep on spinning, Paul! That is what the lying Church did.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161872 Feb 5, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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This thread is about who/what allah is and not who Jesus is. Since islam lacks any substance the only thing muslims apologist can do is to try an discredit Christianity. Even if you could discredit Christianity, islam would still be an empty man made ideology and nothing more. It is a very carnal based philosophy with no redeeming qualities. Prove me wrong.
No one has to try to discredit Christianity. It does that itself very well. Nothing but lies and conjecture.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161873 Feb 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Where did you hear that? Which God are you talking about? Your God or the God of the Jews and Muslims?
You said you follow the koran and mohammad ONLY. The koran is one version of the suppose dictation of mohammad of what a spirit said some suppose character allah told him to till mohammad. Sorry but that is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; maybe it's some pagan moon god.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161874 Feb 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Fortunately he did not say that. Acts 2 is quite clear. No trinitarian formula in there. The Church missed forging it.
Keep on spinning, Paul! That is what the lying Church did.
And I am suppose to take the word of some unbaptized heathens word for that. Sorry, but once again you don't know what you are talking about.

How about how arius reformulated his Christology so that Constantine would let him go home? Constantine did not try to make any changes to the decision of the Council of Nicaea.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161875 Feb 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
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No one has to try to discredit Christianity. It does that itself very well. Nothing but lies and conjecture.
islam is the only ideology base on lies from the start; where it changes Isaac to ishmael for the oblation God asked of Abraham. islam has nothing. If Acts 2 is correct to make doctrine by then so is Genesis.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161876 Feb 5, 2013
MUQ wrote:
If Jews can follow their dietary laws then why Christians should also not follow them? Jesus did not abolish any of those laws.
That is very true, MUQ.

Jesus did not abolish any thing, not even an iota.

Jesus said, "What goes into a person's mouth doesn't make him unclean. It's what comes out of the mouth that makes a person unclean." "

He was defending his disciples, who did not wash their hands before taking meals.

He was teaching how to talk nicely, instead of hurting people. It was all about his disciples eating with dirty hands and in the end, he confirmed that to eat with unwashed hands did not defile a man. So, it was okay to eat with dirty or unwashed hands.

Salaams
BMZ

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161877 Feb 5, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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And I am suppose to take the word of some unbaptized heathens word for that. Sorry, but once again you don't know what you are talking about.
How about how arius reformulated his Christology so that Constantine would let him go home? Constantine did not try to make any changes to the decision of the Council of Nicaea.
Many scholars, who have done research on the Great Contradiction between Acts 2 and Matthew 28, have concluded that the absurd line was inserted in Matthew 28:19 was ordered by Constantine.

Anyway, "in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost", is a forgery.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161878 Feb 5, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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islam is the only ideology base on lies from the start; where it changes Isaac to ishmael for the oblation God asked of Abraham. islam has nothing. If Acts 2 is correct to make doctrine by then so is Genesis.
Ishmael has nothing to do with all the pious fraud in Christianity. You can have Issac in place of Ishmael. I have no problem with that.

Under whose name did John baptise Jesus???
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161880 Feb 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
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That is very true, MUQ.
Jesus did not abolish any thing, not even an iota.
Jesus said, "What goes into a person's mouth doesn't make him unclean. It's what comes out of the mouth that makes a person unclean." "
He was defending his disciples, who did not wash their hands before taking meals.
He was teaching how to talk nicely, instead of hurting people. It was all about his disciples eating with dirty hands and in the end, he confirmed that to eat with unwashed hands did not defile a man. So, it was okay to eat with dirty or unwashed hands.
Salaams
BMZ
Jesus was showing how silly and meaningless muslim dietary and washing rules are to God. You can do all these trivial things but if you don't have love of God and neighbor it's like a sounding dong signifying nothing.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161881 Feb 5, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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And I am suppose to take the word of some unbaptized heathens word for that. Sorry, but once again you don't know what you are talking about.
How about how arius reformulated his Christology so that Constantine would let him go home? Constantine did not try to make any changes to the decision of the Council of Nicaea.
The unbaptized heathens, the Greek philosophers gave you the Christian God, Paul. Be nice to them.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161882 Feb 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Many scholars, who have done research on the Great Contradiction between Acts 2 and Matthew 28, have concluded that the absurd line was inserted in Matthew 28:19 was ordered by Constantine.
Anyway, "in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost", is a forgery.
Once again, what's in the Holy Bible approved by the Catholic Church came from God. Any additions or editing was done by the Holy Spirit.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161883 Feb 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Ishmael has nothing to do with all the pious fraud in Christianity. You can have Issac in place of Ishmael. I have no problem with that.
Under whose name did John baptise Jesus???
Once again this thread is about allah, not Jesus. Who/what is allah? So far I am lead to believe he is a fictional character of islam. There is no evidence the koran was even dictated by mohammad. islam is based on a lie.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161884 Feb 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
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The unbaptized heathens, the Greek philosophers gave you the Christian God, Paul. Be nice to them.
We are nice to the heathen and pray that they will come to Jesus the Christ and be baptized, by authority of Jesus' Name, in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161885 Feb 5, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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St Peter was only talking about by whose authority one is baptized and not giving the fomula for baptism. He could say: "By the authority of Jesus Name, I baptize you:-In the Name of Father, Son and Holy Spirit.'"
No, he could not even think of that. The problem is that you have not even really read your own New Testament.

Read this and tell me how can you dare spin anymore?

"Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. "

He did it again! The point is Matthew 28:19 IS A FORGERY.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161886 Feb 5, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Once again, what's in the Holy Bible approved by the Catholic Church came from God. Any additions or editing was done by the Holy Spirit.
NO! There is nothing from God in the New Testament but everything from men.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161887 Feb 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
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No, he could not even think of that. The problem is that you have not even really read your own New Testament.
Read this and tell me how can you dare spin anymore?
"Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. "
He did it again! The point is Matthew 28:19 IS A FORGERY.
There are no forgeries in the Holy Bible approved of by the Catholic Church. In the Name of Jesus the Catholic Church declares it free from all error.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161888 Feb 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
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NO! There is nothing from God in the New Testament but everything from men.
You are confusing the Holy Bible with the koran.

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