Who Is Allah?

[uhuh]

was Yitra, father of Amasa, an "Israelite" (2Sam 17:26), or an "Ishmaelite" (1Chron 2:17)?

it was as easy (and tempting) as substituting a word
...way back before the Qumran community wrote their Dead Sea scrolls

[MUQ]

STEFANO COLONNA wrote:

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There is no point to make that challenge if a Muslim is unable to recognize the flaws on its own book, the Quran.
More or less this is the position of Muslims: Like a mum would say his son is perfect, good ect, while in reality any son has its strong and weak points, but for its mother he's perfect.
If a group of people present to the mother a child that is better than her own, she will keep saying her son is better, and point out the flaws of the other child.
It's just a waste of time. Moreover how long have you been here? People have showed you all the mistakes in Quran. Sometimes you gave good answers, other time that answers were not so convincing. In other cases you escaped from the questions, or just said Allah knows best when you were speechless in front of the evident mistakes.
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What about the birth of Jesus that was taken from Infacy Gospels?
Allah confusing Gideon's story with Saul's one, and many others?

Instead of telling Muslims what is "wrong" in their Quran, it would be easier to bring a "Duplicate Quran", since you know the source of it. And it is very easy. Just copy stories of Bible, divide it into pieces and just distribute it here and there.

No Chronology, No theme, no grammar, anything would pass.

Why not conjure a single four short verse chapter like Chapter 112, that blows away Trinity, Idol Worship, False gods worship, Son of God and Father of God and every other cobwebs that humans have ever designed to worship any one else, except the True Lord of Universe.

It should be a "piece of cake" for some one like you.

I did not hear any thing from you so far, go have a hand at it. Write something in English first, then get it Translated in Arabic thru "Google Translator"!!

Vow, that would be fine!!

[MUQ]

Paul WV wrote:

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You must not think much of the koran if you think I can do a better job at writing it. According to the koran a human being begins as a clot of blood, while scientific evidence shows that blood is not formed till the second week after conception. Looks like the koran is a big fail.

Instead of pointing "mistakes" of Quran, won't it be easier to bring a "Duplicate Quran"?

Follow the advice which I gave to SC, that would be easier and nice.

And who says that Quran says that humans were created out of "Clot of Blood"?

Did you know what Arabic word Quran used? Check its different shades of meanings and you will find that it matches with whatever views we have as on now and what we might have in future.

Why do you not read the books, Quran and Bible in the light of Modern Science by Dr. Maurice Buccaile?

[MUQ]

Excerpts from the Gospel of Barnabas, Part-44A

Chapter 92 Jesus comes to Jerusalem
Then everyone, small and great, went out from the city to see Jesus, so that the city was left empty, for the women [carried] their children in their arms, and forgot to take food to eat. When they [saw] this, the governor and the high-priest rode forth and sent a messenger to Herod, who [also] rode forth to find Jesus, in order to quiten the sedition of the people.

For two days they sought him in the wilderness near to [the] Jordan, and the third day they found him, near the hour of midday, when he (with his disciples) was purifying himself for prayer, according to the Book of Moses.

Jesus marvelled greatly, seeing the multitude which covered the ground with people, and [he] said to his disciples: "Perhaps Satan has raised sedition in Judea. May it please God to take away from Satan the dominion which he has over sinners." And when he had said this, the crowd drew near, and when they knew him they began to cry out: "Welcome to you, O our God!" and they began to do him reverence, as to God. Jesus gave a great groan and said: "Get from before me, O madmen, for I fear [that] the earth shall open and devour me with you for your abominable words!" At this the people were filled with terror and began to weep.

[reader]

Inscription

Mark 15:26 - The inscription:“The King of the Jews.”
Matthew 27:37 - The inscription:“This is Jesus the King of the Jews.”
Luke 23:38 - The inscription:“This is the King of the Jews.”
John 19:19 - The inscription:“Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”

If an inscription which is a visual thing could not be correctly translated, now imagine how would verbal narrations be distorted ?

[uhuh]

Num 11:15,
"bera'ati" (my evil) was previously "bera'ateka" (Your evil), so that Moses' complaint to YHWH was,
"If you're going to burden me as a babysitter to these people, please kill me at once, that I may not look at Your evil"

one of the many known "tikkunei soferim" (corrections/amendations by scribes)

[bmz]

reader wrote:

Inscription
Mark 15:26 - The inscription:“The King of the Jews.”
Matthew 27:37 - The inscription:“This is Jesus the King of the Jews.”
Luke 23:38 - The inscription:“This is the King of the Jews.”
John 19:19 - The inscription:“Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”

If an inscription which is a visual thing could not be correctly translated, now imagine how would verbal narrations be distorted ?

Indeed!

It was a great observation, reader.

If there were a writer Tom, he would have reported:

"The inscription: "Jews' King"

Enjoyed reading that.

A great example of your valid question can be found in John 1 and Bible Gateway has opened a new door for Wycliffe's translation:

" John 1 Wycliffe Bible (WYC)

1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was at God, and God was the word.[In the beginning was the word, that is, God's Son, and the word was at God, and God was the word.]
2 This was in the beginning at God.
3 All things were made by him, and without him was made nothing [nought], that thing that was made.
4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men;
5 and the light shineth in darknesses, and [the] darknesses comprehended not it."

Amazing disgrace!

[bmz]

rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:

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rabbee: well ok luke, self skywalking. but i am not only, your grandfather. but the grandfather, of all on earth also. when it was not even my idea, to have any of you grandchildren. in case you have not read, TheTorah. it is all G-D'S Idea, and not mine.

soooorry if i am not, exactly what any of you didn't expect. but i do not answer to any of you, but only to BOTH MyPARENT in HEAVEN only. THEY are in charge of my life story, here in ThisStory of Creation not any of you. so don't think for one milisecond, that all of you and your grandmother cannot be replaced. for i shall do, as commanded by My Parent.

and your absurd statments about me, are no better than thier absurd statements about me. because none of you, are dealing in TheReality of being here in ThisStory of Creation again. and your delusions of not being here in TheTorah Happening, are just that vanity from that same old devil again...

Enjoyed reading that, dear Rabbee and this was a 5-Star comment:

"rabbee: well ok luke, self skywalking."

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

bmz wrote:

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Enjoyed reading that, dear Rabbee and this was a 5-Star comment:
"rabbee: well ok luke, self skywalking."

rabbee: well i am sure they, are dense enough to not want to get it. they have a diffi-cult time, understanding what goes around alaways returns. and if it ain't ever good, then it is always going to be the same bad.

[bmz]

Paul WV wrote:

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The Holy Bible is not corrupt it is the written Word of God. If you say it is corrupt it's because you do not have the Spirit of God dwelling in you.
Jesus is body, blood, soul, and divinity. Man is body, blood and soul. The divinity of God was hypostatically united with the His body, blood and soul. As our souls are united with our bodies God's divinity is united with Jesus' body making Him God.

Actually, this Jesus of yours and his 'father' are both men.

Let us help you find the real God, the LORD Almighty Allah, so that you can forget the two men and a ghost.

[bmz]

Paul WV wrote:

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Jesus the Christ is God Incarnate! He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father but through Him.

Oh, I forgot that.

Let me add this:

Fully incarnate, fully hypostatic, fully dead and fully rebuilt, whatever that means.

[bmz]

Paul WV wrote:

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The Holy Bible is not corrupt it is the written Word of God. If you say it is corrupt it's because you do not have the Spirit of God dwelling in you.
Jesus is body, blood, soul, and divinity. Man is body, blood and soul. The divinity of God was hypostatically united with the His body, blood and soul. As our souls are united with our bodies God's divinity is united with Jesus' body making Him God.

Hypostatic union is another absurd doctrine, which took about 80 years (451-533) to be fully fabricated.

You may not realize but this absurd doctrine was against the so-called in-dwelling of God in men.
So, if you are for the hypostatic union, then please DISCARD the in-dwelling of God in men.

Arianism, Apollinarianism, Ebionism, Eutychianism, Nestorianism and many other 'isms' were totally against this absurd doctrine. The Church declared them heresies and declared her own heresy 'the hypostatic union' as correct.

[MUQ]

bmz wrote:

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Oh, I forgot that.
Let me add this:
Fully incarnate, fully hypostatic, fully dead and fully rebuilt, whatever that means.

You did not check if his post made any sense from English Grammatical rules?

The words are English, but the whole post does not make any sense.!!

Salaam

MUQ

[bmz]

MUQ wrote:

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You did not check if his post made any sense from English Grammatical rules?
The words are English, but the whole post does not make any sense.!!
Salaam
MUQ

Indeed! Paul's posts do not make any sense.

When you respond to Paul, make it very short. Do not go into detail as that would be a waste of time.

Salaams
BMZ

[John Preacher]

Ahmed wrote:

and yet no one answered to my question,HOW CAN JESUS BE GOD,WHEN MARY IS THE MOTHER OF JESUS?MARY IS THE MOTHER OF JESUS(U SAY THAT JESUS IS GOD,SO THERE WAS.T GOD BEFORE MARY)WHO CREATED MARY AND THE LIFES BEFORE MARY ? GIVE ME AN ANSWER

Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ's body. Simple as that!

[John Preacher]

The Bible declares that Jesus is God:
"In the beginning was the Word(The Son), and the Word was with God, and the WORD WAS GOD. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." (John 1:1-3).

"Who, being IN THE FORM OF GOD thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." (Philippians 2:6-8).
Jesus is the very image of God himself, but he humbled himself and became man. This is why he calls God his Father and his God, for he had made himself like man, and the ruler of man is God.

Because Jesus humbled himself to become like man, and submited himself to his Father, his Father has highly exalted him again, set him at his right hand:

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus (Yeshua) every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ IS LORD to the glory of God the Father." (Philippians 2:9-11).

[John Preacher]

"The LORD (The Father)said unto my Lord(The Son), Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." (Psalm 110:1).

[John Preacher]

The Trinity, can be explained in scientific terms as: Three Clones, all identical, yet all One and the same.One person duplicated three times. One God, yet in three beings, all identical in essence, just like clones. This is why Jesus said,”I and the Father are One.”
If you can't understand scripture, maybe you can understand science!

[bmz]

John Preacher wrote:

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Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ's body. Simple as that!

Every mother is the mother of her son's body. So, what is the big deal and what is so great about it?

[bmz]

John Preacher wrote:

The Bible declares that Jesus is God:
"In the beginning was the Word(The Son), and the Word was with God, and the WORD WAS GOD. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." (John 1:1-3).

That is a fraudulent translation. It is not present in any of the ancient manuscripts.