Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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John Preacher wrote:
The Bible declares that Jesus is God:
"In the beginning was the Word(The Son), and the Word was with God, and the WORD WAS GOD. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." (John 1:1-3).
That is a fraudulent translation. It is not present in any of the ancient manuscripts.
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The Trinity, can be explained in scientific terms as: Three Clones, all identical, yet all One and the same.One person duplicated three times. One God, yet in three beings, all identical in essence, just like clones. This is why Jesus said,”I and the Father are One.”
If you can't understand scripture, maybe you can understand science!
Why did Jesus not talk about the third at all here? There are only two in that. Right?

He did not say, "I and the Father and the Ghost are one."

Why did he leave the ghost out and who brought the ghost in?

Trinity is absurd and a lie, JP. It does not have any support from Jesus. Trinity was concocted long, real long after Jesus had passed away. Please let him rest in peace. Thanks
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Instead of pointing "mistakes" of Quran, won't it be easier to bring a "Duplicate Quran"?
Follow the advice which I gave to SC, that would be easier and nice.
And who says that Quran says that humans were created out of "Clot of Blood"?
Did you know what Arabic word Quran used? Check its different shades of meanings and you will find that it matches with whatever views we have as on now and what we might have in future.
Why do you not read the books, Quran and Bible in the light of Modern Science by Dr. Maurice Buccaile?
Are you saying the koran does not say human conception starts with a clot of blood? So what does the koran say?
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Actually, this Jesus of yours and his 'father' are both men.
Let us help you find the real God, the LORD Almighty Allah, so that you can forget the two men and a ghost.
Jesus is fully God and fully man. Don't know what other 'man' you are talking about? It just a lie of yours. Please stick with the truth for if you have to lie, you are only lying to yourself.
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Hypostatic union is another absurd doctrine, which took about 80 years (451-533) to be fully fabricated.
You may not realize but this absurd doctrine was against the so-called in-dwelling of God in men.
So, if you are for the hypostatic union, then please DISCARD the in-dwelling of God in men.
Arianism, Apollinarianism, Ebionism, Eutychianism, Nestorianism and many other 'isms' were totally against this absurd doctrine. The Church declared them heresies and declared her own heresy 'the hypostatic union' as correct.
Only the Catholic Church has the divine authority, through the Keys given St Peter by Jesus, to declare what is truth and what is heresy. Get it, Divine Authority. Jesus remains with His Catholic Church, Emanuel, so that now we can proclaim we are 'taught by God".
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Instead of pointing "mistakes" of Quran, won't it be easier to bring a "Duplicate Quran"?
Follow the advice which I gave to SC, that would be easier and nice.
And who says that Quran says that humans were created out of "Clot of Blood"?
Did you know what Arabic word Quran used? Check its different shades of meanings and you will find that it matches with whatever views we have as on now and what we might have in future.
Why do you not read the books, Quran and Bible in the light of Modern Science by Dr. Maurice Buccaile?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...
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Jesus is fully God and fully man. Don't know what other 'man' you are talking about? It just a lie of yours. Please stick with the truth for if you have to lie, you are only lying to yourself.
There is no such thing as fully God and fully man. Cut that rubbish out, please! You can't sell that horse shit to me, dear Paul.

You tell us things, which the son of Mary never said. You have no proof of this junk and stuff, over which men quarreled for three centuries and were shut up ny force.
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Only the Catholic Church has the divine authority, through the Keys given St Peter by Jesus, to declare what is truth and what is heresy. Get it, Divine Authority. Jesus remains with His Catholic Church, Emanuel, so that now we can proclaim we are 'taught by God".
You were taught by the Church which was taught by men who were taught by Satan. This is the truth.

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Instead of telling Muslims what is "wrong" in their Quran, it would be easier to bring a "Duplicate Quran", since you know the source of it. And it is very easy. Just copy stories of Bible, divide it into pieces and just distribute it here and there.
No Chronology, No theme, no grammar, anything would pass.
Why not conjure a single four short verse chapter like Chapter 112, that blows away Trinity, Idol Worship, False gods worship, Son of God and Father of God and every other cobwebs that humans have ever designed to worship any one else, except the True Lord of Universe.
It should be a "piece of cake" for some one like you.
I did not hear any thing from you so far, go have a hand at it. Write something in English first, then get it Translated in Arabic thru "Google Translator"!!
Vow, that would be fine!!
In case you have not understood what I told you before, let me repeat it in other words. If you are 30, 40 50, 60 years old and still believe in Santa Clause, not matter what one says or shows to you, you still remain a retarded person that believe in Santa Clause.


Let us look at 112nd chapter of Quran that excites MUQ so much:

Say, "He is Allah ,[who is] One,
Allah , the Eternal Refuge.
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to Him any equivalent."

Can you explain little MUQ how the piece blows idol worship, trinity, false god worship, son of god and father of god?

Those simplistic words are mere affermation backed up by nothing.

For instance I can say yesterday Mr John Smith was in NY, you may say that yesterday he was in Paris.

Who is right? Anyone can say what he wants. What makes the difference are the evidences to back up those affermations that your god accidently forgot it.

Meantime where is the proof that a god exists? And even if it exists, where is the proof that that god is indeed Allah?

Stupid book for stupid people.
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Dr. Barnabas,

http://quran.com/22/52-53

"And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. But Allah abolishes that which Satan throws in; then Allah makes precise His verses. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.[That is] so He may make what Satan throws in a trial for those within whose hearts is disease and those hard of heart. And indeed, the wrongdoers are in extreme dissension."

By this declaration -or, "The devil made me do it!" defense- which Mohammad made to excuse his own screwup with regard to the supposed "daughters of Allah" whose intercession he commended and then revoked, Mohammad saw fit to not only accuse Allah of malicious INCOMPETENCE, but to also smear every other prophet of God who has ever walked the earth, and somehow it doesn't matter to Muslims that this is both libel and blasphemy.

What would "Jesus" of the Gospel of Barnabas think of Mohammad's "The devil made me do it!" defense?
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Are you saying the koran does not say human conception starts with a clot of blood? So what does the koran say?
Was Quran revealed in English?

Quran uses the Arabic term "ALAQ" and not English "Clot of Blood".

ALAQ has many sense of meanings. In reality one of the meaning is "some thing which clings" (Like the insects which suck blood), so in the initial stages of pregnancy, the "mingled sperm" is like some thing which clings to the womb.... and this is exactly as we discovered "only recently".

So those who translated ALAQ as "Clot of Blood" made a mistake, it was not the mistake of Arabic Quran. It was not prophet who said "Alaq" means Clot of Blood. Some one translated it, based on the look of fetus in the early stage of pregnancy.

So there is and there was nothing wrong in Quran, when it was revealed 1400 years ago.

If we did not had the original manuscript of Quran or someone had "inserted" his own interpretation of ALAQ, we could have problems as we have in Bible.

Allah Knows Best
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Jesus' Two Natures: God and Man
http://carm.org/jesus-two-natures

Jesus is the most important person who has ever lived since he is the savior, God in human flesh. He is not half God and half man. He is fully divine and fully man. In other words, Jesus has two distinct natures: divine and human. Jesus is the Word who was God and was with God and was made flesh,(John 1:1,14). This means that in the single person of Jesus is both a human and divine nature, God and man. The divine nature was not changed when the Word became flesh (John 1:1,14). Instead, the Word was joined with humanity (Col. 2:9). Jesus' divine nature was not altered. Also, Jesus is not merely a man who "had God within Him" nor is he a man who "manifested the God principle." He is God in flesh, second person of the Trinity. "The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word," (Heb. 1:3). Jesus' two natures are not "mixed together," (Eutychianism) nor are they combined into a new God-man nature (Monophysitism). They are separate yet act as a unit in the one person of Jesus. This is called the Hypostatic Union.

The following comparison should help you see the two natures of Jesus "in action":

GOD - MAN

He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33).
He worshiped the Father (John 17).

He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8)
He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5).

He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1)
He was called Son of Man (John 9:35-37)

He is prayed to (Acts 7:59).
He prayed to the Father (John 17).

He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15).
He was tempted (Matt. 4:1).

He knows all things (John 21:17).
He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52).

He gives eternal life (John 10:28).
He died (Rom. 5:8).

All the fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9).
He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39).
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Only the Catholic Church has the divine authority, through the Keys given St Peter by Jesus, to declare what is truth and what is heresy. Get it, Divine Authority. Jesus remains with His Catholic Church, Emanuel, so that now we can proclaim we are 'taught by God".
How come if St. Peter was given the keys St Paul became the Key Keeper?

When did St. Peter handed over the Keys to St. Paul?

We do not see St. Peter speaking much in Christian Theology, only St. Paul!!

So you are playing a double role? When it suits you, you say Catholic Church derives authority from St. Peter the Rock on which Church was to be built by Jesus.

And when it comes to theology and teachings, you hide behind St. Paul, the Spokesperson in Chief for Jesus?
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The Communicatio Idiomatum

A doctrine that is related to the Hypostatic Union is the communicatio idiomatum (Latin for "communication of properties"). It is the teaching that the attributes of both the divine and human natures are ascribed to the one person of Jesus. This means that the man Jesus could lay claim to the glory He had with the Father before the world was made (John 17:5), claim that He descended from heaven,(John 3:13), and also claim omnipresence,(Matt. 28:20). All of these are divine qualities that are laid claim to by Jesus; therefore, the attributes of the divine properties were claimed by the person of Jesus.

One of the most common errors that non-Christian cults make is not understanding the two natures of Christ. For example, the Jehovah's Witnesses focus on Jesus' humanity and ignore His divinity. They repeatedly quote verses dealing with Jesus as a man and try and set them against scripture showing that Jesus is also divine. On the other hand, the Christian Scientists do the reverse. They focus on the scriptures showing Jesus' divinity to the extent of denying His true humanity.

For a proper understanding of Jesus and, therefore, all other doctrines that relate to Him, His two natures must be properly understood and defined. Jesus is one person with two natures. This is why He would grow in wisdom and stature (Luke 2:52) yet know all things (John 21:17). He is the Divine Word that became flesh (John 1:1,14).

The Bible is about Jesus (John 5:39). The prophets prophesied about Him (Acts 10:43). The Father bore witness of Him (John 5:37; 8:18). The Holy Spirit bore witness of Him (John 15:26). The works Jesus did bore witness of Him (John 5:36; 10:25). The multitudes bore witness of Him (John 12:17). And, Jesus bore witness of Himself (John 14:6; 18:6).

Other verses to consider when examining His deity are John 10:30-33; 20:28; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8; Heb. 1:6-8; and 2 Pet. 1:1.

1 Tim. 2:5 says, "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Right now, there is a man in heaven on the throne of God. He is our advocate with the Father (1 John 2:1). He is our Savior (Titus 2:13). He is our Lord (Rom. 10:9-10). He is Jesus.
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Hasn't everyone noticed that the Koran can not support itself. The whole koran itself is the "AntiBible", everything the Bible says is true, the koran declares as false. The koran cannot exist, without its opponent The Bible.
Just look what Mad Mo wrote- its just an attack on the Bible plain and simple:, Satan had to write his own "Book" to contradict the true Bible:

Koran- Say, "He is Allah ,[who is] One,
Allah , the Eternal Refuge.
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
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Where did Mohammad get the idea that God had no Son? He was plagerizing the Bible and creating an AntiBible.
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MUQ wrote:
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Was Quran revealed in English?
Quran uses the Arabic term "ALAQ" and not English "Clot of Blood".
ALAQ has many sense of meanings. In reality one of the meaning is "some thing which clings" (Like the insects which suck blood), so in the initial stages of pregnancy, the "mingled sperm" is like some thing which clings to the womb.... and this is exactly as we discovered "only recently".
So those who translated ALAQ as "Clot of Blood" made a mistake, it was not the mistake of Arabic Quran. It was not prophet who said "Alaq" means Clot of Blood. Some one translated it, based on the look of fetus in the early stage of pregnancy.
So there is and there was nothing wrong in Quran, when it was revealed 1400 years ago.
If we did not had the original manuscript of Quran or someone had "inserted" his own interpretation of ALAQ, we could have problems as we have in Bible.
Allah Knows Best
Proclaim! In the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, who created -
created man, out of ALAQ, meaning "SOME THING WHICH CLINGS,(Like the insects which suck blood)."
-- Sura 96:1-2

The problem with your interpretation, Dr. Baranabas, is that it isn't "mingled sperm" or "the look of fetus in the early stage of pregnancy," that is being REVEALED in this passage, but the original creation of man, as in, Adam, or whatever name the Qur'an gives to the very first man, who incidentally is also made from "WATER" (Sura 25:54), from "SOUNDING CLAY, FROM MUD MOULDED INTO SHAPE" (Sura 15:26), and from "DUST" (Sura 30:20)

Then there is this:

God createth what He willeth:
When he hath decreed a plan,
He but saith to it, "Be," and it is!
-- Sura 3:47

Which suggests that God said "BE" and "DUST" mixed with "WATER" and became "MUD" or "ALAQ" that was then "MOULDED INTO (Adam's) SHAPE" by someone or something (angels and/or jinns, maybe), because why should God get HIS hands dirty?

As for the process of Eve's creation, the Quran offers only this:

And God said:‘O Mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam) and from Him (Adam) He created his wife (Eve), and from them both He created many men and women.’”(Sura 4:1)

You have to turn to Bukhari's hadith to get the particulars:

“O Muslims! I advise you to be gentle with women, for they are created from a rib, and the most crooked portion of the rib is its upper part. If you try to straighten it, it will break, and if you leave it, it will remain crooked; so I urge you to take care of the women.”(Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
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John Preacher wrote:
Hasn't everyone noticed that the Koran can not support itself. The whole koran itself is the "AntiBible", everything the Bible says is true, the koran declares as false. The koran cannot exist, without its opponent The Bible.
Just look what Mad Mo wrote- its just an attack on the Bible plain and simple:, Satan had to write his own "Book" to contradict the true Bible:
Koran- Say, "He is Allah ,[who is] One,
Allah , the Eternal Refuge.
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
Islam itself is the counterfeit kingdom of Satan.
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http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/hartma...

Is Jesus the physical Son of God?

In light of the material presented regarding pre-Islam Arabia, it is no surprise that the Qur’an unabashedly attacks the notion that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. The idea that Allah sired Jesus Christ in a physical sense is repugnant to Muslims. In pre-Islam Arabia, tribal people attributed physical wives (Surah 72:3), daughters (Surah 6:100; 16:57; 17:40; 37:149-153; 43:19; 53:27), and sons (2:116; 6:100-101; 10:68; 17:111; 18:4; 19:91-92; 21:26; 25:2) to a high god. As a result, Muslims currently reject any theological concepts which they believe entail similar relationships with Allah.

The most explicit passage in the Qur’an condemning the Trinity and the deity of Jesus Christ appears in Surah 5:116,“And behold! Allah will say:‘O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah?’” Ibn Taymiyya believes that this passage conclusively shows that Christians attribute a physical wife to Yahweh.29 The logic behind Ibn Taymiyya’s assertion is quite consistent with Muslim assertion that the Qur’an is perfect and originates from the will of Allah. Ibn Taymiyya proposes that in spite of what the Christian Scriptures actually record regarding the nature of God and regardless of what Christians have historically believed about the nature of God, because the Qur’an teaches that Christians believe Yahweh has a female consort, then in the face of all known data, it must be true.

Similarly, Surah 2:116 depicts Christians as holding the belief that Allah physically fathered Jesus Christ. Commenting on this passage, Yusuf Ali writes:

"It is derogation from the glory of God—in fact it is blasphemy—to say that God begets sons, like a man or an animal. The Christian doctrine is here emphatically repudiated. If words have any meaning, it would mean an attribution to God of a material nature and of the lower animal function of sex."

The Qur’an, on a number of occasions, condemns the belief of Allah having offspring. However, the greatest condemnation is clearly directed towards Christians who believe that Jesus is the Son of God. The reason for such opposition is because Muslims believe that Christians understand the Fatherhood of God in a physical sense.

Once more in Surah 39:4, the concept of divine paternity is attributed to Christians, and is subsequently condemned. However, this passage offers an alternative to “begetting.” The text reveals that, if Allah had wanted a “helper,” he would not have needed to sire him in a physical sense, but would instead have created him. If Allah has no wife, as the Qur’an undeniably teaches, then he can have no son. The idea that he would lower himself to the level of creatures for the sake of procreation is entirely blasphemous.
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CORRECTION:

The problem with your interpretation, Dr. BARNABAS, is that it isn't "mingled sperm" or "the look of fetus in the early stage of pregnancy," that is being REVEALED in this passage, but the original creation of man, as in, Adam, or whatever name the Qur'an gives to the very first man, who incidentally is also made from "WATER" (Sura 25:54), from "SOUNDING CLAY, FROM MUD MOULDED INTO SHAPE" (Sura 15:26), and from "DUST" (Sura 30:20)

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