Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161406 Feb 2, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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You must not think much of the koran if you think I can do a better job at writing it. According to the koran a human being begins as a clot of blood, while scientific evidence shows that blood is not formed till the second week after conception. Looks like the koran is a big fail.
Qur'aan is not a text book of Science.

God discusses and reasons with man. It is something like, "Let us reason".

In your Bible, men are doing the talking and telling stories.

The message is: Think hard what were you. You were not even a thing before you were created.
Look at your own creation and see through what have been.

And you have the audacity to talk against God?

For example what was Jesus? A sticky zygote that grew like a tadpole and became a sticky fetus, which grew surrounded by Amniotic fluid, not angels, in his mother's womb.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161407 Feb 2, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus said He was God and the Jew wanted stone Him for it. Case is closed.
This is the problem with Christianity and Christians. They keep on lying.

Where and when did he say, "I am God!"?

Forget God but tell me why do you lie against the poor man Jesus?

From now on, you should write "Our God Jesus" instead of "Our Lord Jesus". By doing so, you will not need this thing called the Son of God.

Even the self-loathing sinner and liar Paul does not agree with modern Christianity.

He used to write this way: "Grace and peace to you from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ."

Paul did not write: "Grace and peace to you from God our Father and Lord Jesus Christ."

Lies upon lies and nothing ut lies, Paul.

y
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#161408 Feb 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Even though, I am a Muslim, I have attended Church services. Besides 'Our Lord Christ and Son of God", I have not heard him being called the Wonderful Counsellor or the mighty God or the eternal Father.
May I ask why are you propagating this lie?
If Jesus is the mighty God or the eternal Father, then you do not need the silly and absurd Son of God and the ridiculous triune God.
Jesus is the mighty God and everylasting Father of the church:
Just one christians song with those words:
www.lyrster.com/lyrics/everlasting-father-lyr...

See here why Jesus can be called Father:
www.jesus-explained.org/jesus-the-father.html
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161409 Feb 2, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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You look at the Hadiths to understand what Quran is talking about.
Let's pick up one of the five pillars. The hajj. Give us references from Quran explains how to perform it.
No, ignorant fool! Muslims do not even read Hadith. Polemicists read them more.

I had told you that Hadith came up centuries after the Prophet had passed away.

Muslims do not follow Hadith or live by Hadith. They follow Qur'aan and Sunnah! Sunnah means the way of the Prophet. He did the Hajj and people followed the way that he performed it. So, Sunnah was passed through generations.

Thus it is extremely foolish of you to say that for 500 years, Muslims did not know how to do Hajj?

Humour me more, please!
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#161410 Feb 2, 2013
Koran has no witnesses, case dismissed, we find in favour of the bible which has witnesses (prophets)
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161411 Feb 2, 2013
John Preacher wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus is the mighty God and everylasting Father of the church:
Just one christians song with those words:
www.lyrster.com/lyrics/everlasting-father-lyr...
See here why Jesus can be called Father:
www.jesus-explained.org/jesus-the-father.html
Even that song is absurd. Came from the absurd translation. Right?
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#161412 Feb 2, 2013
Jesus has been given the right to call himself "The Father". One of the Apostles asked Jesus: "Show us the Father". The
answer of Jesus demonstrates that he has the right to be the
very Father for those who believe in him; 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and
yet hast thou not known me, Philip? He that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the
Father? 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in
me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself:
but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me
(John 14:9-11) By such a statement it is not implied that Jesus and God the
Father are but different manifestations of one and the
same being! In fact, such a doctrine is not only incomprehensible, it is also false and excluded as a possibility
by the words of Jesus himself; 30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my
judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will
of the Father which hath sent me. 31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.(John 5:30-31) Listen to one witness of Jesus: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son,
in whom I am well pleased.(Mathew 3:17) If, contrary to my testimony, the Father and the Son are
different manifestations of one and the same being, then the
Father, with the voice from heaven bore witness of himself,
and it would therefore be a false testimony, according to Jesus'
words quoted above (John 5:31). And how many times did not
Jesus bear witness of his Father! Were these false witnesses? I will make them true before your very eyes by stating the
simple fact that God the Father and Jesus are two separate and
distinct individuals. When they testify of each other their
witness is true and holy!
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#161413 Feb 2, 2013
More lyrics to prove beyond doubt that BMZ is wrong and that churches do in fact call Jesus Everlasting Father:
www.lyricsmania.com/hosanna_lyrics_wilimingto...
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#161415 Feb 2, 2013
From the lips of Jesus himself:
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. " (John 14:6-7).

But nothing will convince you BMZ, because God has obviously not chosen you to be one of his own, which is sad.
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#161418 Feb 2, 2013
Your heart is obviously to proud and hard to humble yourself and ask God to open your eyes, to the truth. So because you did not ask, you will not receive.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161419 Feb 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Qur'aan is not a text book of Science.
God discusses and reasons with man. It is something like, "Let us reason".
In your Bible, men are doing the talking and telling stories.
The message is: Think hard what were you. You were not even a thing before you were created.
Look at your own creation and see through what have been.
And you have the audacity to talk against God?
For example what was Jesus? A sticky zygote that grew like a tadpole and became a sticky fetus, which grew surrounded by Amniotic fluid, not angels, in his mother's womb.
What is the koran but second hand repeition of what an "angel". But really it is not a first hand telling of what the "angel" said but the re-telling by a multitude of people. If in a classroom you whisper a message to one person and have each person whipers it to the next by the time the last student repeats the message it is not the same as the original message. The koran can not be trusted.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161420 Feb 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
This is the problem with Christianity and Christians. They keep on lying.
Where and when did he say, "I am God!"?
Forget God but tell me why do you lie against the poor man Jesus?
From now on, you should write "Our God Jesus" instead of "Our Lord Jesus". By doing so, you will not need this thing called the Son of God.
Even the self-loathing sinner and liar Paul does not agree with modern Christianity.
He used to write this way: "Grace and peace to you from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ."
Paul did not write: "Grace and peace to you from God our Father and Lord Jesus Christ."
Lies upon lies and nothing ut lies, Paul.
y
The Jews wanted to stone Jesus for saying He was God. Jesus knew He was God and was in glory with the Father from before the fundation of the world; before Abraham He was; He talked to Moses from the burning bush.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#161421 Feb 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
No, ignorant fool! Muslims do not even read Hadith. Polemicists read them more.
I had told you that Hadith came up centuries after the Prophet had passed away.
Muslims do not follow Hadith or live by Hadith. They follow Qur'aan and Sunnah! Sunnah means the way of the Prophet. He did the Hajj and people followed the way that he performed it. So, Sunnah was passed through generations.
Thus it is extremely foolish of you to say that for 500 years, Muslims did not know how to do Hajj?
Humour me more, please!
I wonder if you ever read my post?

Why bother to give me an answer if you didnt read?

Where did I say Muslims didn't know how to perform Hajj for 500 years, time waster?

Go to sleep, or make one of your pagan rituals that somehow Islam has absorb.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#161422 Feb 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
No, ignorant fool! Muslims do not even read Hadith. Polemicists read them more.
I had told you that Hadith came up centuries after the Prophet had passed away.
Muslims do not follow Hadith or live by Hadith. They follow Qur'aan and Sunnah! Sunnah means the way of the Prophet. He did the Hajj and people followed the way that he performed it. So, Sunnah was passed through generations.
Thus it is extremely foolish of you to say that for 500 years, Muslims did not know how to do Hajj?
Humour me more, please!
Oh idiot,

who told you Muslims don't read the Hadiths? LOL

Even an incopemtent like you read it...

In any case our MUQ not just read it, but even give us pieces of Hadith everyday, in another thread.

Your personal problem with Hadith keep it for you.

I don't have to deal your embarassing version of Islam, but with the mainstream version of it.

Understood, braindead?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161424 Feb 2, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
The Jews wanted to stone Jesus for saying He was God. Jesus knew He was God and was in glory with the Father from before the fundation of the world; before Abraham He was; He talked to Moses from the burning bush.
But where can I read Jesus said, "I am God"?

If he were God, then why do you need this Father?

Who was the fool, who told you that it was Jesus, who talked to Moses from the burning bush?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161425 Feb 2, 2013
John Preacher wrote:
From the lips of Jesus himself:
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. " (John 14:6-7).

But nothing will convince you BMZ, because God has obviously not chosen you to be one of his own, which is sad.
I would have accepted those verses if Jesus had said, "If ye had known me, ye should have know that I am your Father".

Don't you guys see how ridiculous and absurd is the interpretation?

And besides quoting me foolish verses to make silly points, don't you ever read the following in your own gospel?

Read this with a double convex lens:

"Go instead to my brothers and tell them,I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.

This bursts and disintegrates that Jesus was God or the Father!

Dismissed!
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161426 Feb 2, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh idiot,
who told you Muslims don't read the Hadiths? LOL
Even an incopemtent like you read it...
In any case our MUQ not just read it, but even give us pieces of Hadith everyday, in another thread.
Your personal problem with Hadith keep it for you.
I don't have to deal your embarassing version of Islam, but with the mainstream version of it.
Understood, braindead?
Talking to you is like talking to an idiot and a clueless ignorant fool. First, you write incoherence and when explained, produce more incoherence.

Grow up!
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161427 Feb 2, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
The Jews wanted to stone Jesus for saying He was God. Jesus knew He was God and was in glory with the Father from before the fundation of the world; before Abraham He was; He talked to Moses from the burning bush.
That Jesus was God and the Father, is absurd and rubbish!

Read this:

"Go instead to my brothers and tell them,I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.

Here you see a naked Jesus, whom Mary wanted to cling to and he stopped her and said that.

So, your bubble that Jesus is God, is burst!

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#161428 Feb 2, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
An angel speaking is not allah speaking. The angel could have been a demon.
On the night of the mihraj did allah ask mohammad to pray with him? Who did allah pray to?
where did you get that????????? proof
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161429 Feb 2, 2013
John Preacher wrote:
Koran has no witnesses, case dismissed, we find in favour of the bible which has witnesses (prophets)
The Prophets belong to the Jews. They are not the witnesses to the New Testament at all. Even Jesus is unaware of the NT, which was produced centuries after Jesus had passed away.

On his next visit, if he really comes, present him the NT, saying "Lord, this is your book" and he will toss it behind his back, saying, "Fools, I left no book".

Frankly speaking, JP, your New Testament is a joke and the problem is that you dare not laugh!

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