Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 205,460

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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JOEL

Mumbai, India

#160875 Jan 30, 2013
Everything, subtle or gross, is an aspect of Existence and so to use labels like Man-made and Divine where religious teachings/scriptures are concerned is foolish. To set up artificial distinctions means to create a rupture in the unified field of consciousness-energy that defines existence on all levels of the Manifestation. There can exist a gradation of teachings, that's all.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#160876 Jan 30, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Ethics being universal values are an independent field of activity and need not be tied to religion.
rabbee: whose ethics? when it appears, each diverse group has their own set of ethics. and can even vary, from individual to individual within each diverse group. universal to you, does not make it universal to everyone else.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160877 Jan 30, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Did you just pull this out of your hat or can I find this in the koran?:
"Please use this TEST ON ANYTHING...and IF A "THING" PASSES the TEST then THAT "THING" IS GOD:
*** GOD, The ONE and ONLY.
*** GOD, the Eternal, Absolute in existence, not temporal or conditional or not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on GOD.
*** GOD begets not, nor is GOD begotten.
*** And there is none like unto GOD."
We can call the above - the touchstone of theology.
Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’ using the unique attributes of GOD, so that false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed."
If you pulled this from the koran we can dismiss it since you've not proven the koran is of divine origin. Once having satanic verses in it makes it most like from the devil.
If you care to open your eyes, you will see those verses.
Wow....you are seriously brainwashed...and MUQ is 100% right about consistency and in attacking Islam as of the Devil and Evil, by those who carry books that are not very "godly"!

I am sure you believe that your "church" and "bible" are divine, despite every piece of evidence to the contrary!!

You know that "your lord god" the good old BJ was associated with evil and devil in the Gospels by the learned Jewish elders of the time.
Your "lord god" could not convince the people to whom he was sent!
Thanks to "honest" paul, "your lord" god has been sold as a god of gentiles!!

How can I prove that Quran is from God to a person who believes Satan is his god!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160878 Jan 30, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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Hi.
Just got in.
Good wishes.
Welcome to the den of equity or inequity!Hope your break was productive.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160879 Jan 30, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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So you do admit allah has two true hands, two true eyes, face and limbs? Are they carboned based?
When it comes to eyes, hands, face, limbs, sex organs and throne, your "lord god bj" is the CLEAR winner and I give you that.
Meaning: Allah has no such appendages!
Get it?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160880 Jan 30, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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If you care to open your eyes, you will see those verses.
Wow....you are seriously brainwashed...and MUQ is 100% right about consistency and in attacking Islam as of the Devil and Evil, by those who carry books that are not very "godly"!
I am sure you believe that your "church" and "bible" are divine, despite every piece of evidence to the contrary!!
You know that "your lord god" the good old BJ was associated with evil and devil in the Gospels by the learned Jewish elders of the time.
Your "lord god" could not convince the people to whom he was sent!
Thanks to "honest" paul, "your lord" god has been sold as a god of gentiles!!
How can I prove that Quran is from God to a person who believes Satan is his god!
That is just a copout. You can not prove the koran is divine.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#160881 Jan 30, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Welcome to the den of equity or inequity!Hope your break was productive.
Hi!

I'm good, thank you.

Best Regards.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#160883 Jan 30, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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That is just a copout. You can not prove the koran is divine.
The words divine or non-divine are misnomers.

There's nothing like a divine or non-divine book or teaching since existence is unified and has gradations in the becoming/manifestation.

By putting in the word God or by adding some details about OBEs and the like in a book doesn't make it divine and the absence of these terms does not render a book non-divine.

Everything, gross or subtle, is a natural phenomenon.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#160884 Jan 30, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical muslim nonsense playing hypocrite victimism by making things up.
Let's look what Atheists were supposed to say, according to MUQ:
"They say "All these religions are man made and served needs to some vested interests in their times, they might have saved some societies from disintegration in times gone by……we think most of these religions have served their purpose and have nothing to offer in our times….
But one thing about which we are 100 % sure is that Quran is false and Your Prophet is a false Prophet."
If Atheist said religions are man made and has nothing to offer, that means that all religions are false, prophets too. No reason to underline Islam.
What Christians were suppossed to say, according to MUQ:
"They say "While we are not sure who actually wrote these Gospels and we are not sure how St. Paul got access to Jesus and there are so many sects and denominations in Christianity and we do not know "for sure" which one has "Holy Spirit" inside them and we are not "United on Homosexuality, Abortion, Divorce and a few other burning issues…..
But one thing about which we are 100 % sure is that Quran is false and Your Prophet is a false Prophet."
A Christian say that Gospels were written by the four evangelists, only researchers doubt it. A Christian don't question how St, Paul got access to Jesus. A Christians would never question which denomination has the Holy Spirit in. A Catholic would say we have it, a Protestant would say we have it, ect.
What is not understandable is why you left out what Muslims think about other religions.
Muslims say we have 72 different sects, which one is true? Why we don't have the original manuscripts? Who wrote the quranic version we have? How accurate it is? Muslims don't agree whether or not Hadiths are tales or reliable stories about Muhammad life.
But one thing about we are 100% sure other religions are false and their prophets are false, expect the ones present in Quran too. We got their stories right, unlike other abrahamic religions.
Ect for the other religions.
Well, at least now we have 100% of unanimity.
In case some Muslims will say something about the Muslim section I wrote, well I just used the bad standards of MUQ.
The ONLY sensible part of your post is "What Muslims say about other religions"?

Muslims say that all major world religions in the beginning were brought by the Prophets of God and they all preached the same basic message:

"Worship only One True Lord of this Universe, and do not make associate and partners in His worship and shun idol worship and worshipping false gods. Follow me and do good deeds so you are successful in the hereafter".

This is the basic teachings of all prophets of God and this is what is "Islam" in a nutshell.

But the followers of these prophets changed and corrupted the original message and got divided into different names and sects.

These names like Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism etc are chosen by the followers and not a single one was given by their Prophet.

Moses never hard the word Judaism in his whole life.

Jesus never heard the word Christianity in his entire life (No one ever called him Jesus or Emmanuel is another matter)

Buddha never heard the word Buddhism in his entire life.

And no prophet of ancient India heard the word Hinduism in their life time.

So Islam is the only true religion on the face of this earth and that is to what we Muslims invite everyone.

And that is WHY all these people who follow their own made religions have become enemies of islam and Muslims.

Got it?
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#160885 Jan 30, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Get me a Muslim site with explanation from Muslims please instead giving links to poison sites that we have covered over and over.
Also need the exact verse in the Quran
Thank you.
I guess you just don't like me speaking the truth about the lying
deceiving Allah. Here's the proof, if you don't like it tough! Allah is the most DECEITFUL Sura 3:54 and in Sura 30:8 Let the truth be known to all!!!
Here is another site quoting Koranic verses where Mohammad himself calls Allah a deceiver and one who leads people astray, ie. Satan the greatest deceiver of all.
www.backend.ai-deutschland.de/authors/shamoun...
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#160886 Jan 30, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Absolutely brilliant two posts brother.
What you modestly suggest as ......
"this "unanimity" of all Non Muslim religions and religious groups against Islam, has guided some people to Accept Islam!!"....
..should in my humble opinion read....
"this "unanimity" of all Non Muslim religions and religious groups against Islam, has guided MANY people to Accept Islam!!"
It describes Ex-Christians like me plus many I personally know who have embraced Islam.
Islam is the ONLY true religion if you claim that you believe in ONE God.
Ofocurse, people are at liberty to completely deny God and they may even be right, but if you profess to believe in ONE God, then Islam is the ONLY answer.
Salaams.
Thank you brother for appreciation.

I stand corrected!!

I knew of a "some cases" due to my limited knowledge and exposure. You come from the background and you have more information.

I wish that we meet in the Hereafter as Friends going to Paradise. Amen

Salaam

MUQ
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#160888 Jan 30, 2013
"Healing means to make whole."

- Dr. Joel Kreisberg, Teleosis Institute
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160890 Jan 30, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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The words divine or non-divine are misnomers.
There's nothing like a divine or non-divine book or teaching since existence is unified and has gradations in the becoming/manifestation.
By putting in the word God or by adding some details about OBEs and the like in a book doesn't make it divine and the absence of these terms does not render a book non-divine.
Everything, gross or subtle, is a natural phenomenon.
It is of divine origin if God, Himself, was the author of the book. God has given us the Catholic Church with the authority, through the Keys given St Peter, to discern what works are of divine origin.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#160891 Jan 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
The ONLY sensible part of your post is "What Muslims say about other religions"?
Muslims say that all major world religions in the beginning were brought by the Prophets of God and they all preached the same basic message:
"Worship only One True Lord of this Universe, and do not make associate and partners in His worship and shun idol worship and worshipping false gods. Follow me and do good deeds so you are successful in the hereafter".
What the Muslims say can keep for themselves if they can't bring any evidence.

Who made you sure the true god said worship him? If god really exist, doesn't need to be worshipped, nor does promise an eternal brothel in heaven.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>This is the basic teachings of all prophets of God and this is what is "Islam" in a nutshell.
What sense does it make to believe in your own made up story and tell to others they are wrong or they have distorted the message?
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text> But the followers of these prophets changed and corrupted the original message and got divided into different names and sects.
In fact, let's not forget Islam is divided into 72 or 73 sects. I guess this is an unaware admission from you that Islam has changed and corrupted the original message.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>These names like Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism etc are chosen by the followers and not a single one was given by their Prophet.
Moses never hard the word Judaism in his whole life.
Jesus never heard the word Christianity in his entire life (No one ever called him Jesus or Emmanuel is another matter)
Buddha never heard the word Buddhism in his entire life.
And no prophet of ancient India heard the word Hinduism in their life time.
Two things. It doesn't really matter whether or not those prophets have ever heard words like Buddhism, Induism, Christianity ect.

In the other hand, don't forget that these so called prophet never heard of something called Islam.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>So Islam is the only true religion on the face of this earth and that is to what we Muslims invite everyone.
And that is WHY all these people who follow their own made religions have become enemies of islam and Muslims.
Anyone who profess a religion thinks its religion is the only true one. Out of this subjectivism you have brought nothing, as your post shows it.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text> Got it?
I got that you are making things up.
Mengal

Karachi, Pakistan

#160892 Jan 30, 2013
Muahmmad Imran,

Q. What is Islam ?
Mengal

Karachi, Pakistan

#160893 Jan 30, 2013
Muahmmad Imran,

Q. What is Islam ?

Qadir Mengal,

Dear Muhammad Imran,
islam meens submeeting his will befor the Allah ,
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#160894 Jan 30, 2013
YOUR FAITH & MINE:

1) The ignorant individual talks in terms of your faith and mine and takes offence at criticism of his religion believing it to be perfect or divinely inspired and prefers clinging to its narrow and often damaging dogmas and as such remains stuck in the morass of what he calls "my faith".

2) The person of intelligence and character adopts a universal outlook knowing that truth is universal and has no particular preference for any religion or way of life and that it would not be far-stretched to say that truth has nothing to do with religion.

3) Intelligent people everywhere emulate the causal law based on universals and absorb uplifting influences from every quarter and in the process enrich their personality and pave the way for better karma and elevation of consciousness.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#160896 Jan 30, 2013
THE JEALOUS, WRATHFUL & REVENGEFUL GOD:

1) The petty and ill-spirited beings who insist on being worshipped display naked jealousy and intense anger when their followers question or switch faiths. Stoning and death penalty are the punishments for the apostates and heretics.

2) The absolute cares not who acknowledges it in thought or who worships it through self-realization since truth is independent of all parochialism and bias and stands upright at all times even if not a single person can be found to follow it.

3) The worship of the petty beings - G-d or God - of the various faiths and the keeping of daily, weekly, monthly or yearly mumbo jumbo rituals to please these petty beings are the exclusive preserve of the ignorant and bigoted.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#160897 Jan 30, 2013
Religion is for deluded, uncultured, bigoted and unintelligent people.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#160898 Jan 30, 2013
WHO'RE THE MERITORIOUS ONES?

Those who closely follow the universal causal laws supporting life and growth in thoughts, words and deeds while staying far away from the manacles of religion with its perverse teachings and absurd rituals are the ones with real merit and who make the best inner progress that gradually moulds and effulges through the outer personality.

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