Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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When Muhammad and his community came under severe persecution, eighty-three of his followers who had no protection emigrated from Mecca to Ethiopia, taking refuge in the ancient Christian country, Abyssinia.1 Under increasing boycotts and pressure, Muhammad went through a time of weakness and compromised with the Meccan pagans by acknowledging the existence of three pagan goddesses alongside Allah: Lat, Uzza, and Manat.2 The Arabian goddesses are mentioned in Sura an-Najm (Star) 53:19-22.
The statement that Allah was involved with female goddesses while Muhammad and his people were left with men, was cynically discussed by author Salman Rushdie.3 He made the impure account even more obscene. His book was regarded as utterly blasphemous by all Muslims.
When the inhabitants of Mecca heard Muhammad's confess the importance of the ancient goddesses inside the Ka'aba, they immediately revoked their ban on him. Those who had immigrated to Abyssinia (Ethiopia) started to return home after hearing Muhammad's confession and his acceptance in Mecca. But when they arrived, they were shocked to hear that Muhammad had retracted his confession and admitted that he had fallen prey to the whispering of Satan. Thus, today Islam considers Sura an-Najm (Star) 53:19-22 are related to the time when Muhammad spoke the the Satanic Verses. Salman Rushdie did not invent the Satanic verses.
In Sura Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53, Muhammad confessed his mistake, alleging that all prophets were tempted by Satan who inspire them with demonic verses, as if they were actually revealed by God. But later on Allah abrogated those Satanic Verses with new revelations and instructs his prophets with new verses. According to Islam, Allah permits such demonic inspiration to test weak believers and to cut off those with hardened hearts.
Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom:
That He may make the suggestions thrown in by Satan, but a trial for those in whose hearts is a disease and who are hardened of heart: verily the wrong-doers are in a schism far (from the Truth): Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53. Yusuf 'Ali's translation
The true, vital issue about the Satanic verses is this. If Muhammad were unable to distinguish Satan's voice from God's voice, then could there be verses in the Qur'an that Muhammad assumed were from God but were really from Satan? Maybe much of the Qur'an is Satanic in origin, in spite of Muhammad's conviction that it was entirely from Allah.
The Qur'an clearly states that Muhammad spoke in the name of God and that he said things that God had not commanded him! Next, he charges that all the prophets of God voiced Satanic statements! According to the holy law of God, Muhammad ought to have been put to death as a false prophet! According to the Holy Scriptures, if a prophet spoke anything in the name of LORD that was not from Him, the prophet must be put to death! Muhammad spoke in the name of Allah and then admitted that he had really spoken the words of Satan.
But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death. Deuteronomy 18:20 (NIV)
Wow Buford, literally from the mouth of the false prophet Mohammad himself, Mohammad declared himself to be a prophet of satan- astounding!!!
Bufford heres a copy of my book The Islamic antichrist:
www.sharepdfbooks.com/HANMQ56EZYWI/The_Islami...
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Good post, MUQ
Excellent PS.
Salaams
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Thank you brother for your appreciation.

Salaam

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In the Bible: Lucifer is called:“shining” one.(Isaiah
14:12).
But In the Koran: Allah is called “shining” one (Quran
24:35)
In the Bible: Lucifer is called “morning” or “dawn” star
(Isaiah 14:12) Angels & Demons frequently called “stars” in Bible.
But In the Koran: Allah Is called a star and Lord of the Dawn (morning)(Quran 24:35,
114:1-3). Also called “The Star of Sirius”(Quran 53:49).
In the Bible: Lucifer is called Extremely Prideful (Isaiah 10:12 & Ezekiel 28:2). Note that pride is a SIN in Scripture (Romans 1:30, 2 Tim 3:2 & James 4:6).
But In the Koran: Allah is called “The Most Proud One” and “One Filled with Pride.” Al-Muqtadir
In the Bible: Lucifer is called ruler & lord over demons (Matthew 12:24 & Rev 9:11).
But In the Koran: Allah is the “Lord of the Demons.”(Quran 69:43, 51:56, 114:1) and is
SERVED by demons (79:1).
In the Bible: Demons follow Lucifer and are his allies (Matthew 12:25-26 & Rev
9:11). Note: demons are ENEMIES of God and His OPPOSITION (Matthew 13:39, Luke 10:19 & Acts 13:10).
But In the Koran: Demons follow Allah and are his allies (Quran 72:13).
In the Bible: Lucifer is called Destroyer & Murderer (John 8:44, Malachi 3:11). Causer of disease and affliction (Luke13:16, Acts 10:38). Note: The REAL God is a Healer, a Deliverer, a Father and a Savior!
But In the Koran: Allah Called “Al-Darr” which means “Afflicter & Causer of Harm.” Also
“Creator of Suffering.”
In the Bible: Lucifer is Creator of evil & darkness from whom we need to be delivered
from (Matthew 6:13—“deliver us from the evil one.”)
But In the Koran: Allah is Creator of evil and darkness but Muslims are urged to seek refuge in the same one who creates the evil and darkness to escape evil and darkness (not a joke).[Quran 114:1-3]

Some of the other Names of Allah include Al-Mudhell, The Giver of
Dishonour. Al-Mumit, The Bringer of Death, The Destroyer (which is
the exact name Apollyon in Revelation 9:11.) But the Most interesting name which Allah has given himself is Al-Mu'akhir, THE GREAT DECEIVER (According to the Bible Satan is the Great Deceiver in Revelation. 12:9) So how can you believe any “god” who calls himself THE GREAT DECEIVER?
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Strange Unanimity:
1. Do you not think that this is a strange behaviour. While these different groups are hardly united on any other issue, the thing they are united on is that "Quran is false and Our prophet is a false Prophet"
2. And this is what Quran said "After Truth, what is left, but the falsehood"? And our prophet said "All these who reject Islam are one group" and we see that all Non Muslims unite when there is any dispute with any Muslim country.
3. So is this situation scary? And Muslims should feel afraid? By no means, it is for good of Muslims, it is high time for them to come back to Islam and unite and pose a united front to enemies of Islam.
4. Had the situation been different and some of these Non Muslims were backing and supporting Muslims, there would have been some room for doubt.
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And actually this "unanimity" of all Non Muslim religions and religious groups against Islam, has guided some people to Accept Islam!!
They were amazed to see so much anti Islamic bias in these diverse groups, who do not agree on any single issue.
This strange behaviour told them that Islam must be right and all these religious groups are 'afraid" of Islam!!
Absolutely brilliant two posts brother.

What you modestly suggest as ......

"this "unanimity" of all Non Muslim religions and religious groups against Islam, has guided some people to Accept Islam!!"....

..should in my humble opinion read....

"this "unanimity" of all Non Muslim religions and religious groups against Islam, has guided MANY people to Accept Islam!!"

It describes Ex-Christians like me plus many I personally know who have embraced Islam.

Islam is the ONLY true religion if you claim that you believe in ONE God.

Ofocurse, people are at liberty to completely deny God and they may even be right, but if you profess to believe in ONE God, then Islam is the ONLY answer.

Salaams.
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I asked you before..
Is your Creator what we can see or can't see.
Is that interesting what you going tell me?
no..be honest with you not..i am not interesting in everything.

-which universe is hard find as well very easy see.
you not give me answer..o yes you are so smart..why is like that..we as ordinary people..maybe somewhere we are not simple like that..maybe..but
did you find what i told you..no.
i know that you can't find.
Why ants have colony?
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Did ants need have Muslim or Christian or any religion?

How many pets you have..did you ever have pets as one tiny ant?
no if not please tell me why not?!

Why Creator created ants?
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Did your Creator have mother?
Did your Creator have brother?
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The pagan Arabs never worshipped sun, stars and moon. They worshipped idols made of wood, stones, feathers, etc.
This moongod theory was initiated by a hardcore Christian polemicist "dr" Robert Morey, an idiot in the US. Even Western scholars blasted the fool. This man does not even have a Ph. D.
I think he should spend more time writing about his silly moangod and mangod of Christianity.
lol..

Is "moon" god a feeble attempt to divert attention away from the "SUN", "SON" and "SIN" god of pagan SUNDAY...with 12 Zodiac signs known as disciples?

I am not saying these are necessarilty correct but interesting...

***“light of the world.”

***“Risen Savior.”

***“comes on clouds, and every eye shall see him.”(PAUL WV's FAMOUS CLAIM!!!!)

- 12 disciples who represent the 12 signs of the zodiac.

- Water into wine, which represents grapes ripening after they're rained on and then heated by the sun.

-“Crown of thorns” which represents the sun's rays.(The halo is also a solar symbol.)

- Painting of BJ walking on water.

- BJ compared with as Apollo,(the Mosaic found beneath St. Peters Basilica in Rome!!! Even Peter probably never went to Rome!!)

- Similarity with Egyptian Sun Disk

- "Walking on water" symbolizes sun light reflecting off the surface of water.( Attention BMZ!!)
(Also...
WE WALK on WATER in WINTER...How can "Christians" get out of it by saying ICE is not WATER, when many of them talk about WATER, ICE, STEAM..and the rest to DESCRIBE the TRINITY!!)

- The sun’s followers (Christians) traditionally worship their risen savior on SUNday.
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Did your Creator have mother?
Did your Creator have brother?
It may be useful to familiarise ourselves with a few definitions of "God".

Hope it makes sense if I say, by defintion God cannot have father, mother, son, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, grandad, grandma.........

If people do a bit of research, they won't hopefully ask ask if God is lonely witohut any relatives!!!
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Still waiting for an answer why
Allah has given himself the name Al-Mu'akhir, THE GREAT DECEIVER
(According to the Bible Satan is the
Great Deceiver in Revelation. 12:9) So
how can you believe any “god” who
calls himself THE GREAT DECEIVER?
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TU QUOQUE!
Go back and address my post, please.
See, I tested you and you failed, simply because you could not think outside the Christian box.
I had challenged you to think about the Grand Satanic Opening Verse of John 1.
Check out Wycliffe's translation again and you will see how the truth is distorted by the Bible Mills.
We're talking about allah on this thread. So, how do we know about the satanic verses that were taken out of the original koran?

allah is a god of islam so we must look into the origin of islam to see if it's of divine origin. So far we've found that it isn't.

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Ok.
Yes, the word Bible is a Christian term. All the terms in Christianity came through the non-scriptural language Greek.
I used it in a sarcastic way.
Haven't seen a polemic Christian doing that to us yet, but the day is not far, when one would write here and ask about the "Muslim Bible". ;)
In general society that would be a positive thing. A sign of acceptance, even if flawed. The same way that friendly Christians refer to Judaism as a faith.(it might be, but it is as much a practice as a faith - a faith implies all you need to do to be religious is "believe" which is a Christian spin on religion - but there are good intentions behind that label)
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It may be useful to familiarise ourselves with a few definitions of "God".
Hope it makes sense if I say, by defintion God cannot have father, mother, son, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, grandad, grandma.........
If people do a bit of research, they won't hopefully ask ask if God is lonely witohut any relatives!!!
What you don't seem to understand is an analogy God has given man to help him in understanding something of His nature. There are not two men and a dove walking around in Heaven and sitting on throns. Don't tell me allah is a little old man with a gray beard and hair or a warrior with his sword in hand? What is allah?

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What differnce does that make what fourn you are posting from; we are talking about allah. Oh, you are talking about the pagan moon god of the pre-islamic arabs. Well that is the same allah of mohammad. Oh, you are talking about the Allah that Christians use for the Name of God in arab countries. But the muslims in those countries don't want Christians to use the name allah.
On this thread I am discussing the islamic moon god allah. Now if your not discussing the allah of islam be specific who/what your are referring to.
Actually if you were a twad more observant, or stuck around a little, you might notice that the topic is about religion as a whole. And sometimes more. Shocking, shocking, shocking, I know.
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Still waiting for an answer why
Allah has given himself the name Al-Mu'akhir, THE GREAT DECEIVER
(According to the Bible Satan is the
Great Deceiver in Revelation. 12:9) So
how can you believe any “god” who
calls himself THE GREAT DECEIVER?
Why do you keep changing your name several times,(POTS, jeffrey whyte...and do you wish to be reminded of your last nick name arnie the jinnie martini..garamba..the poo poo diaper head..of a..bemused nutter and..god seer. the..nutjob?)
Don't you think that is a good question too?
And please provide the chapter and verse in Holy Quran referring to the name and how you got the translation!
Were you "delayed" or anything "postponed" lately?
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What you don't seem to understand is an analogy God has given man to help him in understanding something of His nature. There are not two men and a dove walking around in Heaven and sitting on throns. Don't tell me allah is a little old man with a gray beard and hair or a warrior with his sword in hand? What is allah?
I can see that you are struggling with this concept of squeezing unlimited GOD into a limited man.
Everytime you refer to "jesus" you refer ONLY to a man but you refuse ditch him from your image of GOD.
We are not talking abut men or doves. Those are in YOUr "bible"!
We have no problem with forcing a man on GOD or vice versa.
GOD and man are not the same.

This is why I gave you the story of a HUMAN pig farmer who took on the form of a pig to die for the sins of pigs. I know the story may have sounded absurd and insulting but it was to make a point.
It insults both man and pig.

Similarly the story about NON HUMAN GOD taking on the form of human is an insult to both GOD and man.
You need to reflect on this before you eventually become a Muslim.
Peace.
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Wrong again.
In fact, the Christians are not allowed to think at all. It has been going on for so long that the Christians have stopped thinking.
Those, who could think, started to join Lollards. Have you ever heard about them?
And credit goes to Lollards for exposing Christianity and her silly doctrines and other absurdities.
Read some great articles by various men of intellect, whose material was kept banned and started to come out in the early 19th Century.
I know that Muslims aren't allowed to think, because this could lead to apostasy. It's just that it would be nice for a change to actually discuss questions about where Mohammad clearly GOT IT WRONG.

http://quran.com/5/101-102

O you who have believed, do not ask about things which, if they are shown to you, will distress you. But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be shown to you. Allah has pardoned that which is past; and Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing. A people asked such [questions] before you; then they became thereby disbelievers.
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MUQ wrote:
Strange Unanimity:
1. Do you not think that this is a strange behaviour. While these different groups are hardly united on any other issue, the thing they are united on is that "Quran is false and Our prophet is a false Prophet"
2. And this is what Quran said "After Truth, what is left, but the falsehood"? And our prophet said "All these who reject Islam are one group" and we see that all Non Muslims unite when there is any dispute with any Muslim country.
3. So is this situation scary? And Muslims should feel afraid? By no means, it is for good of Muslims, it is high time for them to come back to Islam and unite and pose a united front to enemies of Islam.
4. Had the situation been different and some of these Non Muslims were backing and supporting Muslims, there would have been some room for doubt.
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And actually this "unanimity" of all Non Muslim religions and religious groups against Islam, has guided some people to Accept Islam!!
They were amazed to see so much anti Islamic bias in these diverse groups, who do not agree on any single issue.
This strange behaviour told them that Islam must be right and all these religious groups are 'afraid" of Islam!!
Dr. Baranabas,

Whose work are you plagiarizing now?

Oh, while you're at it, tell us about the "unanimity" in Islam, by which I mean the Shi'ite "heretics" next door in Iraq and Iran.
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http://quran.com/22/52-53

And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. But Allah abolishes that which Satan throws in; then Allah makes precise His verses. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.

[That is] so He may make what Satan throws in a trial for those within whose hearts is disease and those hard of heart. And indeed, the wrongdoers are in extreme dissension.
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Christians reading this and even Jews are convinced that the "prophet" of Islam was far worse that a liar; he was a blasphemer who charged God/Allah with malicious INCOMPETENCE.

Now, why would Allah allow that a prophet should speak damned lies one day, and then the unvarnished truth the next day?

IOW, why would Allah deliberately CONFUSE us?

1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

IOW, Muslims, your "prophet" was trying to cover his own accomodating ass, and he didn't mind throwing every other prophet of God under the bus in the process, which makes him a coward, AT LEAST.
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Muslims,

I would ask you to cite an instance or instances in the Tanakh or Injeel where "Satan" threw in some misunderstanding that was later corrected by that SAME prophet, or ANOTHER (excluding Mohammad, because he is himself compromised). Was Moses so afflicted? What about Isaiah? Jeremiah? Micah? Habakkuk? Jesus?

I want chapter(s) and verse(s), please.

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