Who Is Allah?

There are 20 comments on the Aug 24, 2007, The Brussels Journal story titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160855 Jan 30, 2013
USE THIS TEST ON ANYTHING...AND IF A "THING" PASSES THE TEST THEN THAT "THING" IS GOD:

*** GOD, The ONE and ONLY.

*** GOD, the Eternal, Absolute in existence, not temporal or conditional or not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on GOD.

*** GOD begets not, nor is GOD begotten.

*** And there is none like unto GOD."

We can call the above - the touchstone of theology.
Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’ using the unique attributes of GOD, so that false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#160856 Jan 30, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
LEt me also add...nearest to Islam on the matter is Judaism.
Its a matter of perspective. To a Jewish theologian, nearest to Judaism on this matter is Islam.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160857 Jan 30, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe your god BJ had brains, eyes, ears and SEX organs.
..........
Let me remind you...
I can see that you are struggling with this concept of squeezing unlimited GOD into a limited man.
Everytime you refer to "jesus" you refer ONLY to a man but you refuse ditch him from your image of GOD.
We are not talking abut men or doves. Those are in YOUr "bible"!
We have no problem with forcing a man on GOD or vice versa.
GOD and man are not the same.
This is why I gave you the story of a HUMAN pig farmer who took on the form of a pig to die for the sins of pigs. I know the story may have sounded absurd and insulting but it was to make a point.
It insults both man and pig.
Similarly the story about NON HUMAN GOD taking on the form of human is an insult to both GOD and man.
You need to reflect on this before you eventually become a Muslim.
..........
USE THIS TEST ON ANYTHING...AND IF A "THING" PASSES THE TEST THEN THAT "THING" IS GOD:
*** GOD, The ONE and ONLY.
*** GOD, the Eternal, Absolute in existence, not temporal or conditional or not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on GOD.
*** GOD begets not, nor is GOD begotten.
*** And there is none like unto GOD."
We can call the above - the touchstone of theology.
Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’ using the unique attributes of GOD, so that false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed.
I am sorry BJ gets booted without a question as god.
Once again:
Does allah have a brain? Eyes? Ears? Anxiously waiting your reply.

If you can't answer this question I can tell you muslims say he does have a face, hands and other limbs, but I don't think they say he has a brain.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160858 Jan 30, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Its a matter of perspective. To a Jewish theologian, nearest to Judaism on this matter is Islam.
I fully appreciate what you say and have no disagreement on the issue.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160859 Jan 30, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again:
Does allah have a brain? Eyes? Ears? Anxiously waiting your reply.
If you can't answer this question I can tell you muslims say he does have a face, hands and other limbs, but I don't think they say he has a brain.
You must be speaking to some strange Muslims Paul WV.
I am a Muslim and I am saying this to you. Why can't you accept what I say?
Who are these expert Muslims?

I for the sake of completeness I have to repeat..
..........
I believe your god BJ had brains, eyes, ears and SEX organs.
..........

I can see that you are struggling with this concept of squeezing unlimited GOD into a limited man.
Everytime you refer to "jesus" you refer ONLY to a man but you refuse ditch him from your image of GOD.
We are not talking abut men or doves. Those are in YOUr "bible"!
We have no problem with forcing a man on GOD or vice versa.
GOD and man are not the same.
This is why I gave you the story of a HUMAN pig farmer who took on the form of a pig to die for the sins of pigs. I know the story may have sounded absurd and insulting but it was to make a point.
It insults both man and pig.
Similarly the story about NON HUMAN GOD taking on the form of human is an insult to both GOD and man.
You need to reflect on this before you eventually become a Muslim.
..........

Please use this TEST ON ANYTHING...and IF A "THING" PASSES the TEST then THAT "THING" IS GOD:
*** GOD, The ONE and ONLY.
*** GOD, the Eternal, Absolute in existence, not temporal or conditional or not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on GOD.
*** GOD begets not, nor is GOD begotten.
*** And there is none like unto GOD."
We can call the above - the touchstone of theology.
Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’ using the unique attributes of GOD, so that false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed.

I am sorry BJ gets booted without a question as god.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160860 Jan 30, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
You must be speaking to some strange Muslims Paul WV.
I am a Muslim and I am saying this to you. Why can't you accept what I say?
Who are these expert Muslims?
I for the sake of completeness I have to repeat..
..........
I believe your god BJ had brains, eyes, ears and SEX organs.
..........
I can see that you are struggling with this concept of squeezing unlimited GOD into a limited man.
Everytime you refer to "jesus" you refer ONLY to a man but you refuse ditch him from your image of GOD.
We are not talking abut men or doves. Those are in YOUr "bible"!
We have no problem with forcing a man on GOD or vice versa.
GOD and man are not the same.
This is why I gave you the story of a HUMAN pig farmer who took on the form of a pig to die for the sins of pigs. I know the story may have sounded absurd and insulting but it was to make a point.
It insults both man and pig.
Similarly the story about NON HUMAN GOD taking on the form of human is an insult to both GOD and man.
You need to reflect on this before you eventually become a Muslim.
..........
Please use this TEST ON ANYTHING...and IF A "THING" PASSES the TEST then THAT "THING" IS GOD:
*** GOD, The ONE and ONLY.
*** GOD, the Eternal, Absolute in existence, not temporal or conditional or not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on GOD.
*** GOD begets not, nor is GOD begotten.
*** And there is none like unto GOD."
We can call the above - the touchstone of theology.
Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’ using the unique attributes of GOD, so that false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed.
I am sorry BJ gets booted without a question as god.
You must be an apostate muslim for muslims believe allah has "two real eyes, two real hands, a real face and other limbs." Other limbs? Does he have six arms maybe? muslims also believe allah is sitting on a throne above the sky.
truth

Perth, Australia

#160861 Jan 30, 2013
ah i can fill..
is first commandment is
be productive
is that replace your word .e3x
why you interesting..purity is within soul..pleasure is alwayes pleasure its human desire from real Creator.
Depend what you want..pure soul or any divinity..is that for sell to whom?

no can't be for sell
truth

Perth, Australia

#160862 Jan 30, 2013
its deference
in thinking and aproching
as well to know something

what you will choose for yourself
sseed from pure soul or something deference
regarding pleasure
anybody can think or do what so ever..
but soul pure soul is deference..you can't have that.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160863 Jan 30, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
You must be an apostate muslim for muslims believe allah has "two real eyes, two real hands, a real face and other limbs." Other limbs? Does he have six arms maybe? muslims also believe allah is sitting on a throne above the sky.
Just like you make up your own "god given" RC Church and bible, now you are making up your own strange "muslim"!!!!
Please LISTEN carefully instead of making up your own stories..
I am NOT an apostate.
Now back to my question...can you point out one REAL muslim who believes god has hands, eyes , brains and sex organse like your "lord BJ".
I am waiting....

For the sake of completeness I shall repeat what I said before...
..........
I believe your god BJ had brains, eyes, ears and SEX organs.
..........
I can see that you are struggling with this concept of squeezing unlimited GOD into a limited man.
Everytime you refer to "jesus" you refer ONLY to a man but you refuse ditch him from your image of GOD.
We are not talking abut men or doves. Those are in YOUr "bible"!
We have no problem with forcing a man on GOD or vice versa.
GOD and man are not the same.
This is why I gave you the story of a HUMAN pig farmer who took on the form of a pig to die for the sins of pigs. I know the story may have sounded absurd and insulting but it was to make a point.
It insults both man and pig.
Similarly the story about NON HUMAN GOD taking on the form of human is an insult to both GOD and man.
You need to reflect on this before you eventually become a Muslim.
..........
Please use this TEST ON ANYTHING...and IF A "THING" PASSES the TEST then THAT "THING" IS GOD:

*** GOD, The ONE and ONLY.
*** GOD, the Eternal, Absolute in existence, not temporal or conditional or not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on GOD.
*** GOD begets not, nor is GOD begotten.
*** And there is none like unto GOD."

We can call the above - the touchstone of theology.

Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’ using the unique attributes of GOD, so that false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed.

I am sorry BJ gets booted without a question as god.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160864 Jan 30, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Just like you make up your own "god given" RC Church and bible, now you are making up your own strange "muslim"!!!!
Please LISTEN carefully instead of making up your own stories..
I am NOT an apostate.
Now back to my question...can you point out one REAL muslim who believes god has hands, eyes , brains and sex organse like your "lord BJ".
I am waiting....
For the sake of completeness I shall repeat what I said before...
..........
I believe your god BJ had brains, eyes, ears and SEX organs.
..........
I can see that you are struggling with this concept of squeezing unlimited GOD into a limited man.
Everytime you refer to "jesus" you refer ONLY to a man but you refuse ditch him from your image of GOD.
We are not talking abut men or doves. Those are in YOUr "bible"!
We have no problem with forcing a man on GOD or vice versa.
GOD and man are not the same.
This is why I gave you the story of a HUMAN pig farmer who took on the form of a pig to die for the sins of pigs. I know the story may have sounded absurd and insulting but it was to make a point.
It insults both man and pig.
Similarly the story about NON HUMAN GOD taking on the form of human is an insult to both GOD and man.
You need to reflect on this before you eventually become a Muslim.
..........
Please use this TEST ON ANYTHING...and IF A "THING" PASSES the TEST then THAT "THING" IS GOD:
*** GOD, The ONE and ONLY.
*** GOD, the Eternal, Absolute in existence, not temporal or conditional or not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on GOD.
*** GOD begets not, nor is GOD begotten.
*** And there is none like unto GOD."
We can call the above - the touchstone of theology.
Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’ using the unique attributes of GOD, so that false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed.
I am sorry BJ gets booted without a question as god.
Are you saying the salafis are not muslims? The koran agrees with them so you must be a heretic.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160865 Jan 30, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
You must be an apostate muslim for muslims believe allah has "two real eyes, two real hands, a real face and other limbs." Other limbs? Does he have six arms maybe? muslims also believe allah is sitting on a throne above the sky.
When it comes to eyes, hands, face, limbs, sex organs and throne, your "lord god bj" is the CLEAR winner and I give you that.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160866 Jan 30, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you saying the salafis are not muslims? The koran agrees with them so you must be a heretic.
This must come as a complete shock to you..The Holy Quran does not promote any Muslim sect or something called "salafi" or even "gadafi"!
If Quran refers to "hand" (eg: action/might/will) or "throne" (power/sovereignty/kingdom) of god it does not mean to real hands or throne!
The noun here should be seen in terms of adverbial clauses adjectives, verbs etc.

Allow me repeat for clarity....
Just like you make up your own "god given" RC Church and bible, now you are making up your own strange "muslim"!!!!

Please LISTEN carefully instead of making up your own stories..
I am NOT an apostate.

Now back to my question...can you point out one REAL muslim who believes god has hands, eyes , brains and sex organse like your "lord BJ".

..........
I believe your god BJ had brains, eyes, ears and SEX organs.
..........
I can see that you are struggling with this concept of squeezing unlimited GOD into a limited man.
Everytime you refer to "jesus" you refer ONLY to a man but you refuse ditch him from your image of GOD.
We are not talking abut men or doves. Those are in YOUr "bible"!
We have no problem with forcing a man on GOD or vice versa.
GOD and man are not the same.
This is why I gave you the story of a HUMAN pig farmer who took on the form of a pig to die for the sins of pigs. I know the story may have sounded absurd and insulting but it was to make a point.
It insults both man and pig.
Similarly the story about NON HUMAN GOD taking on the form of human is an insult to both GOD and man.
You need to reflect on this before you eventually become a Muslim.
..........
Please use this TEST ON ANYTHING...and IF A "THING" PASSES the TEST then THAT "THING" IS GOD:
*** GOD, The ONE and ONLY.
*** GOD, the Eternal, Absolute in existence, not temporal or conditional or not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on GOD.
*** GOD begets not, nor is GOD begotten.
*** And there is none like unto GOD."
We can call the above - the touchstone of theology.
Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’ using the unique attributes of GOD, so that false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed.
I am sorry BJ gets booted without a question as god.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#160867 Jan 30, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>

Welcome, back!

Where have you been?

Hope all is well with you.

Cheers
Hi.

Just got in.

Good wishes.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160868 Jan 30, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
When it comes to eyes, hands, face, limbs, sex organs and throne, your "lord god bj" is the CLEAR winner and I give you that.
So you do admit allah has two true hands, two true eyes, face and limbs? Are they carboned based?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160869 Jan 30, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
This must come as a complete shock to you..The Holy Quran does not promote any Muslim sect or something called "salafi" or even "gadafi"!
If Quran refers to "hand" (eg: action/might/will) or "throne" (power/sovereignty/kingdom) of god it does not mean to real hands or throne!
The noun here should be seen in terms of adverbial clauses adjectives, verbs etc.
Allow me repeat for clarity....
Just like you make up your own "god given" RC Church and bible, now you are making up your own strange "muslim"!!!!
Please LISTEN carefully instead of making up your own stories..
I am NOT an apostate.
Now back to my question...can you point out one REAL muslim who believes god has hands, eyes , brains and sex organse like your "lord BJ".
..........
I believe your god BJ had brains, eyes, ears and SEX organs.
..........
I can see that you are struggling with this concept of squeezing unlimited GOD into a limited man.
Everytime you refer to "jesus" you refer ONLY to a man but you refuse ditch him from your image of GOD.
We are not talking abut men or doves. Those are in YOUr "bible"!
We have no problem with forcing a man on GOD or vice versa.
GOD and man are not the same.
This is why I gave you the story of a HUMAN pig farmer who took on the form of a pig to die for the sins of pigs. I know the story may have sounded absurd and insulting but it was to make a point.
It insults both man and pig.
Similarly the story about NON HUMAN GOD taking on the form of human is an insult to both GOD and man.
You need to reflect on this before you eventually become a Muslim.
..........
Please use this TEST ON ANYTHING...and IF A "THING" PASSES the TEST then THAT "THING" IS GOD:
*** GOD, The ONE and ONLY.
*** GOD, the Eternal, Absolute in existence, not temporal or conditional or not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on GOD.
*** GOD begets not, nor is GOD begotten.
*** And there is none like unto GOD."
We can call the above - the touchstone of theology.
Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’ using the unique attributes of GOD, so that false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed.
I am sorry BJ gets booted without a question as god.
So you say, that is not what the salafi muslims say. Are you a heretic or using a different koran?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160870 Jan 30, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
This must come as a complete shock to you..The Holy Quran does not promote any Muslim sect or something called "salafi" or even "gadafi"!
If Quran refers to "hand" (eg: action/might/will) or "throne" (power/sovereignty/kingdom) of god it does not mean to real hands or throne!
The noun here should be seen in terms of adverbial clauses adjectives, verbs etc.
Allow me repeat for clarity....
Just like you make up your own "god given" RC Church and bible, now you are making up your own strange "muslim"!!!!
Please LISTEN carefully instead of making up your own stories..
I am NOT an apostate.
Now back to my question...can you point out one REAL muslim who believes god has hands, eyes , brains and sex organse like your "lord BJ".
..........
I believe your god BJ had brains, eyes, ears and SEX organs.
..........
I can see that you are struggling with this concept of squeezing unlimited GOD into a limited man.
Everytime you refer to "jesus" you refer ONLY to a man but you refuse ditch him from your image of GOD.
We are not talking abut men or doves. Those are in YOUr "bible"!
We have no problem with forcing a man on GOD or vice versa.
GOD and man are not the same.
This is why I gave you the story of a HUMAN pig farmer who took on the form of a pig to die for the sins of pigs. I know the story may have sounded absurd and insulting but it was to make a point.
It insults both man and pig.
Similarly the story about NON HUMAN GOD taking on the form of human is an insult to both GOD and man.
You need to reflect on this before you eventually become a Muslim.
..........
Please use this TEST ON ANYTHING...and IF A "THING" PASSES the TEST then THAT "THING" IS GOD:
*** GOD, The ONE and ONLY.
*** GOD, the Eternal, Absolute in existence, not temporal or conditional or not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on GOD.
*** GOD begets not, nor is GOD begotten.
*** And there is none like unto GOD."
We can call the above - the touchstone of theology.
Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’ using the unique attributes of GOD, so that false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed.
I am sorry BJ gets booted without a question as god.
Did you just pull this out of your hat or can I find this in the koran?:
"Please use this TEST ON ANYTHING...and IF A "THING" PASSES the TEST then THAT "THING" IS GOD:
*** GOD, The ONE and ONLY.
*** GOD, the Eternal, Absolute in existence, not temporal or conditional or not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on GOD.
*** GOD begets not, nor is GOD begotten.
*** And there is none like unto GOD."
We can call the above - the touchstone of theology.
Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’ using the unique attributes of GOD, so that false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed."

If you pulled this from the koran we can dismiss it since you've not proven the koran is of divine origin. Once having satanic verses in it makes it most like from the devil.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#160871 Jan 30, 2013
FAMOUS ALUM OF CATHEDRAL SCHOOL MUMBAI IN THE FIELD OF MEDIA/CREATIVE WRITING:

1) Salman Rushdie - His second novel, Midnight's Children, won the Booker Prize in 1981 and besides he’s more famous novel Satanic Verses that earned him a death fatwa that stands till this day.

2) Geeta Anand - For her work at the Wall Street Journal she shared in 2003 Pulitzer Prize for explanatory reporting that was awarded to the Wall Street Journal staff.[2] Anand is the author of the book The Cure,[3] which has been adapted into the film, Extraordinary Measures.

3) Fareed Zakariya - From 2000 to 2010, he was a columnist for Newsweek and editor of Newsweek International. In 2010 he became editor-at-large of Time. He is the host of CNN's Fareed Zakaria GPS.(His brother, Arshad, alum of Cathedral School, is Founder and Chief Executive Officer of New Vernon Capital, a New Jersey-based hedge fund started in 2004. It has approximately $3 billion under management and focuses on emerging markets, particularly India. Prior to forming New Vernon Capital, Mr. Zakaria was an executive vice president of Merrill Lynch & Co. and president, and later chairman, of its Global Markets and Investment Banking Group).

4) Nisha Pillai - She is one of the main news anchors with BBC World News.

and more...

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#160872 Jan 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Strange Unanimity:
1. Do you not think that this is a strange behaviour. While these different groups are hardly united on any other issue, the thing they are united on is that "Quran is false and Our prophet is a false Prophet"
2. And this is what Quran said "After Truth, what is left, but the falsehood"? And our prophet said "All these who reject Islam are one group" and we see that all Non Muslims unite when there is any dispute with any Muslim country.
3. So is this situation scary? And Muslims should feel afraid? By no means, it is for good of Muslims, it is high time for them to come back to Islam and unite and pose a united front to enemies of Islam.
4. Had the situation been different and some of these Non Muslims were backing and supporting Muslims, there would have been some room for doubt.
PS:
And actually this "unanimity" of all Non Muslim religions and religious groups against Islam, has guided some people to Accept Islam!!
They were amazed to see so much anti Islamic bias in these diverse groups, who do not agree on any single issue.
This strange behaviour told them that Islam must be right and all these religious groups are 'afraid" of Islam!!
Typical muslim nonsense playing hypocrite victimism by making things up.

Let's look what Atheists were supposed to say, according to MUQ:

"They say "All these religions are man made and served needs to some vested interests in their times, they might have saved some societies from disintegration in times gone by……we think most of these religions have served their purpose and have nothing to offer in our times….

But one thing about which we are 100 % sure is that Quran is false and Your Prophet is a false Prophet."

If Atheist said religions are man made and has nothing to offer, that means that all religions are false, prophets too. No reason to underline Islam.

What Christians were suppossed to say, according to MUQ:

"They say "While we are not sure who actually wrote these Gospels and we are not sure how St. Paul got access to Jesus and there are so many sects and denominations in Christianity and we do not know "for sure" which one has "Holy Spirit" inside them and we are not "United on Homosexuality, Abortion, Divorce and a few other burning issues…..

But one thing about which we are 100 % sure is that Quran is false and Your Prophet is a false Prophet."

A Christian say that Gospels were written by the four evangelists, only researchers doubt it. A Christian don't question how St, Paul got access to Jesus. A Christians would never question which denomination has the Holy Spirit in. A Catholic would say we have it, a Protestant would say we have it, ect.

What is not understandable is why you left out what Muslims think about other religions.

Muslims say we have 72 different sects, which one is true? Why we don't have the original manuscripts? Who wrote the quranic version we have? How accurate it is? Muslims don't agree whether or not Hadiths are tales or reliable stories about Muhammad life.

But one thing about we are 100% sure other religions are false and their prophets are false, expect the ones present in Quran too. We got their stories right, unlike other abrahamic religions.

Ect for the other religions.

Well, at least now we have 100% of unanimity.

In case some Muslims will say something about the Muslim section I wrote, well I just used the bad standards of MUQ.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#160873 Jan 30, 2013
Ethics being universal values are an independent field of activity and need not be tied to religion.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#160874 Jan 30, 2013
ETHICS & ADAPTATIONS:

1) I've yet to hear of a particular ethic like say compassion being exclusively Jewish, Christian, Islamic, Buddhistic or Hindu.

2) Compassion, for instance, is a universal value that is independent of religion though the various faiths take up a universal ethic and color it according to the teachings of the book or prophet they follow. These are the various readings of a universal like compassion but is not compassion in its essence.

3) Even that grand doyen of compassion, the Buddha, gave compassion a sectarian twist by linking it to acceptance of Buddha (Gautam Siddhartha the Enlightened One), Dharma (Laws that uphold Existence but seen through the Buddha's personal lens) and Sangha (Buddhist church).

4) Compassion, in the essence, would be far more potent and free from all sectarian or personal limitations than any modification of it.

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