Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 202,249

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#160807 Jan 29, 2013
Buford wrote:
I know that Muslims aren't allowed to think, because this could lead to apostasy. It's just that it would be nice for a change to actually discuss questions about where Mohammad clearly GOT IT WRONG.
Wrong again.

In fact, the Christians are not allowed to think at all. It has been going on for so long that the Christians have stopped thinking.

Those, who could think, started to join Lollards. Have you ever heard about them?

And credit goes to Lollards for exposing Christianity and her silly doctrines and other absurdities.

Read some great articles by various men of intellect, whose material was kept banned and started to come out in the early 19th Century.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160808 Jan 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course Allah does not confuse. Confusion is created by men.
When Jesus was gone, talks were going in the markets and on the streets mostly about the man, and God was left behind. The man became an obsession and that is how stories spread.
Telling stories and tales about Jesus was rampant. This was the prelude to massive confusion that led the Bishops fight for two centuries, till the Roman emperor screwed and fixed them up.
Thanks for bringing up the line from Paul. Wouldn't call it a verse. One can see what a massive confusion was there in those days.
In other words, Paul, the self-loathing sinner and liar, was trying to clear that the massive confusion in all the churches, was created by men, who were not preaching God but were preaching the man Jesus in their own ways.
Paul was not only covering his own arse but he was trying to cover the arses of his cahoots also.
This thread is about allah; I am assuming it's the allah of islam. That being the case we must verify the source of this god as found in the koran. Now, is the koran of divine or human origin? I've posted many post showing the koran is not of divine origin but of very human origin.
islamallaround

Maidstone, UK

#160809 Jan 29, 2013
John wrote:
It never ceases to amaze me how the muztards think they own god.
The morons also think they understand god.
Everybody and every religion has a different opinion.
In the modern world only the fuckwit muztards murder and terrorise for their make believe version of god.
I wonder why they are hated.
U Christians do have a different opinion about god= trinity = the dragon , the serpent, the wrestler, the barber , the satan and etc. Hinduism in a different name Christian.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#160810 Jan 29, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Salman Rushdie - alum of Cathedral School, Mumbai.
Welcome, back!

Where have you been?

Hope all is well with you.

Cheers
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#160811 Jan 29, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>Dr. Barnabas,
Your favorite "Gospel" is a proven fraud, not that you care, because you are both arrogant and intellectually dishonest.
All the four "Gospels" are proven to be fraud likewise. No one dare say that Matthew wrote the Bible that goes today by his name. Same can be said about Gospels of Mark, Luke and John.

The name on the title page is just for reference.

I did not see you not using these fake books as "Authentic scripture" why should you balk at GOB?

That shows your double standards.

First you said it was written by a Muslim, then it was changed to a Christian who became Muslim. Now some one will say, he was neither a Muslim nor a Christian, but a cross between two.

Every expert has his own individual theory on this. But no expert will ever hit the truth, that is another quality of these so called "experts".

You also belong to the same category of "experts" !!
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160812 Jan 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong again.
In fact, the Christians are not allowed to think at all. It has been going on for so long that the Christians have stopped thinking.
Those, who could think, started to join Lollards. Have you ever heard about them?
And credit goes to Lollards for exposing Christianity and her silly doctrines and other absurdities.
Read some great articles by various men of intellect, whose material was kept banned and started to come out in the early 19th Century.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black: "In fact, the Christians are not allowed to think at all."
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#160813 Jan 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Welcome, back!
Where have you been?
Hope all is well with you.
Cheers
He was having "fun" on another thread, "Messianic Jews are persecuted in Isreal"!!
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#160814 Jan 29, 2013
A strange case of Unanimity:

Have you people observed? I have seen recently a strange case of unanimity amongst the various religious groups populating our planet at this time.

Let me elaborate a little:

A. Jews:

They say, we have some "problems" with our scriptures, we are not very sure who actually wrote these books, and we have some problems with practicalability of some of our practices and rituals in current times……

But one thing about which we are 100 % sure is that Quran is false and Your Prophet is a false Prophet.

B. Christians:

They say "While we are not sure who actually wrote these Gospels and we are not sure how St. Paul got access to Jesus and there are so many sects and denominations in Christianity and we do not know "for sure" which one has "Holy Spirit" inside them and we are not "United on Homosexuality, Abortion, Divorce and a few other burning issues…..

But one thing about which we are 100 % sure is that Quran is false and Your Prophet is a false Prophet.

C. Hindus:

They say "We have "some problems" on how to define who is Hindu, and we have no central belief system or single scripture, we have so many denominations that we cannot keep track on them, and we just try to pose a united face to outside world….

But one thing about which we are 100 % sure is that Quran is false and Your Prophet is a false Prophet.

D. Buddhists:

They say "While we are not sure what were the "original teachings" of Lord Buddha and how they reached down to us and we do not know "who" started this practice of erecting the status of Lord Buddha and worship it, we do not have any code of law so to say…..

But one thing about which we are 100 % sure is that Quran is false and Your Prophet is a false Prophet.

E. Sikhs:

They say "We are not really sure that Guru Nanak brought a New religion and we do not have a complete code of law and our Guru Granth Sahib has contributions from many person, and we follow many Hindu laws and ceremonies and their code in our daily life….

But one thing about which we are 100 % sure is that Quran is false and Your Prophet is a false Prophet.

F. Modern Materialists:

They say "While we do not support any religious group and we have some reservations about every religion, we see some good things in almost every religion (with the exception of only one religion)…. And we can see the utility of these religions in distant past……

But one thing about which we are 100 % sure is that Quran is false and Your Prophet is a false Prophet.

G. Atheists:

They say "All these religions are man made and served needs to some vested interests in their times, they might have saved some societies from disintegration in times gone by……we think most of these religions have served their purpose and have nothing to offer in our times….

But one thing about which we are 100 % sure is that Quran is false and Your Prophet is a false Prophet.

(Contd.)
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#160815 Jan 29, 2013
Strange Unanimity:

1. Do you not think that this is a strange behaviour. While these different groups are hardly united on any other issue, the thing they are united on is that "Quran is false and Our prophet is a false Prophet"

2. And this is what Quran said "After Truth, what is left, but the falsehood"? And our prophet said "All these who reject Islam are one group" and we see that all Non Muslims unite when there is any dispute with any Muslim country.

3. So is this situation scary? And Muslims should feel afraid? By no means, it is for good of Muslims, it is high time for them to come back to Islam and unite and pose a united front to enemies of Islam.

4. Had the situation been different and some of these Non Muslims were backing and supporting Muslims, there would have been some room for doubt.

PS:

And actually this "unanimity" of all Non Muslim religions and religious groups against Islam, has guided some people to Accept Islam!!

They were amazed to see so much anti Islamic bias in these diverse groups, who do not agree on any single issue.

This strange behaviour told them that Islam must be right and all these religious groups are 'afraid" of Islam!!
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#160816 Jan 29, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
This thread is about allah; I am assuming it's the allah of islam. That being the case we must verify the source of this god as found in the koran. Now, is the koran of divine or human origin? I've posted many post showing the koran is not of divine origin but of very human origin.
Yes, the thread is about Allah.

The question is "Who is Allah?"

The answer is: Allah is the LORD Almighty God of Abraham and all.

Now, chew my flesh and drink my blood.

Read Qur'aan and you will know that God has revealed it.

Read the New Testament and you will know that it is a collection of stories and letters written by men long after Jesus had passed away. When you read the NT, God is not in your mind at all.

Your mind is only with Jesus, Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and other Toms, Dicks and Harries.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#160817 Jan 29, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black: "In fact, the Christians are not allowed to think at all."
Let me test you and see if you are allowed to think.

The oldest versions and manuscripts of John DO NOT have "In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God".

Go and check out the first translation in English by Wycliffe himself and see how the BibleGateway has distorted his translation.

And see if you can think or are allowed to think!!!
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#160818 Jan 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Strange Unanimity:
1. Do you not think that this is a strange behaviour. While these different groups are hardly united on any other issue, the thing they are united on is that "Quran is false and Our prophet is a false Prophet"
2. And this is what Quran said "After Truth, what is left, but the falsehood"? And our prophet said "All these who reject Islam are one group" and we see that all Non Muslims unite when there is any dispute with any Muslim country.
3. So is this situation scary? And Muslims should feel afraid? By no means, it is for good of Muslims, it is high time for them to come back to Islam and unite and pose a united front to enemies of Islam.
4. Had the situation been different and some of these Non Muslims were backing and supporting Muslims, there would have been some room for doubt.

PS:

And actually this "unanimity" of all Non Muslim religions and religious groups against Islam, has guided some people to Accept Islam!!

They were amazed to see so much anti Islamic bias in these diverse groups, who do not agree on any single issue.

This strange behaviour told them that Islam must be right and all these religious groups are 'afraid" of Islam!!
Good post, MUQ

Excellent PS.

Salaams
BMZ
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160821 Jan 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me test you and see if you are allowed to think.
The oldest versions and manuscripts of John DO NOT have "In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God".
Go and check out the first translation in English by Wycliffe himself and see how the BibleGateway has distorted his translation.
And see if you can think or are allowed to think!!!

Check it out the oldest versions of the koran have the satanci verses. Oh wait, they re-wrote the koran and taken them out and burnt all the copies with them. How did we then find out about the satanic verses if all the original korans were burnt?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#160822 Jan 29, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Check it out the oldest versions of the koran have the satanci verses. Oh wait, they re-wrote the koran and taken them out and burnt all the copies with them. How did we then find out about the satanic verses if all the original korans were burnt?
TU QUOQUE!

Go back and address my post, please.

See, I tested you and you failed, simply because you could not think outside the Christian box.

I had challenged you to think about the Grand Satanic Opening Verse of John 1.

Check out Wycliffe's translation again and you will see how the truth is distorted by the Bible Mills.
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#160824 Jan 29, 2013
Buford wrote:
When Muhammad and his community came under severe persecution, eighty-three of his followers who had no protection emigrated from Mecca to Ethiopia, taking refuge in the ancient Christian country, Abyssinia.1 Under increasing boycotts and pressure, Muhammad went through a time of weakness and compromised with the Meccan pagans by acknowledging the existence of three pagan goddesses alongside Allah: Lat, Uzza, and Manat.2 The Arabian goddesses are mentioned in Sura an-Najm (Star) 53:19-22.
The statement that Allah was involved with female goddesses while Muhammad and his people were left with men, was cynically discussed by author Salman Rushdie.3 He made the impure account even more obscene. His book was regarded as utterly blasphemous by all Muslims.
When the inhabitants of Mecca heard Muhammad's confess the importance of the ancient goddesses inside the Ka'aba, they immediately revoked their ban on him. Those who had immigrated to Abyssinia (Ethiopia) started to return home after hearing Muhammad's confession and his acceptance in Mecca. But when they arrived, they were shocked to hear that Muhammad had retracted his confession and admitted that he had fallen prey to the whispering of Satan. Thus, today Islam considers Sura an-Najm (Star) 53:19-22 are related to the time when Muhammad spoke the the Satanic Verses. Salman Rushdie did not invent the Satanic verses.
In Sura Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53, Muhammad confessed his mistake, alleging that all prophets were tempted by Satan who inspire them with demonic verses, as if they were actually revealed by God. But later on Allah abrogated those Satanic Verses with new revelations and instructs his prophets with new verses. According to Islam, Allah permits such demonic inspiration to test weak believers and to cut off those with hardened hearts.
Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom:
That He may make the suggestions thrown in by Satan, but a trial for those in whose hearts is a disease and who are hardened of heart: verily the wrong-doers are in a schism far (from the Truth): Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53. Yusuf 'Ali's translation
The true, vital issue about the Satanic verses is this. If Muhammad were unable to distinguish Satan's voice from God's voice, then could there be verses in the Qur'an that Muhammad assumed were from God but were really from Satan? Maybe much of the Qur'an is Satanic in origin, in spite of Muhammad's conviction that it was entirely from Allah.
The Qur'an clearly states that Muhammad spoke in the name of God and that he said things that God had not commanded him! Next, he charges that all the prophets of God voiced Satanic statements! According to the holy law of God, Muhammad ought to have been put to death as a false prophet! According to the Holy Scriptures, if a prophet spoke anything in the name of LORD that was not from Him, the prophet must be put to death! Muhammad spoke in the name of Allah and then admitted that he had really spoken the words of Satan.
But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death. Deuteronomy 18:20 (NIV)
Wow Buford, literally from the mouth of the false prophet Mohammad himself, Mohammad declared himself to be a prophet of satan- astounding!!!
Bufford heres a copy of my book The Islamic antichrist:
www.sharepdfbooks.com/HANMQ56EZYWI/The_Islami...
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#160825 Jan 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Good post, MUQ
Excellent PS.
Salaams
BMZ
Thank you brother for your appreciation.

Salaam

MUQ
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#160826 Jan 29, 2013
In the Bible: Lucifer is called:“shining” one.(Isaiah
14:12).
But In the Koran: Allah is called “shining” one (Quran
24:35)
In the Bible: Lucifer is called “morning” or “dawn” star
(Isaiah 14:12) Angels & Demons frequently called “stars” in Bible.
But In the Koran: Allah Is called a star and Lord of the Dawn (morning)(Quran 24:35,
114:1-3). Also called “The Star of Sirius”(Quran 53:49).
In the Bible: Lucifer is called Extremely Prideful (Isaiah 10:12 & Ezekiel 28:2). Note that pride is a SIN in Scripture (Romans 1:30, 2 Tim 3:2 & James 4:6).
But In the Koran: Allah is called “The Most Proud One” and “One Filled with Pride.” Al-Muqtadir
In the Bible: Lucifer is called ruler & lord over demons (Matthew 12:24 & Rev 9:11).
But In the Koran: Allah is the “Lord of the Demons.”(Quran 69:43, 51:56, 114:1) and is
SERVED by demons (79:1).
In the Bible: Demons follow Lucifer and are his allies (Matthew 12:25-26 & Rev
9:11). Note: demons are ENEMIES of God and His OPPOSITION (Matthew 13:39, Luke 10:19 & Acts 13:10).
But In the Koran: Demons follow Allah and are his allies (Quran 72:13).
In the Bible: Lucifer is called Destroyer & Murderer (John 8:44, Malachi 3:11). Causer of disease and affliction (Luke13:16, Acts 10:38). Note: The REAL God is a Healer, a Deliverer, a Father and a Savior!
But In the Koran: Allah Called “Al-Darr” which means “Afflicter & Causer of Harm.” Also
“Creator of Suffering.”
In the Bible: Lucifer is Creator of evil & darkness from whom we need to be delivered
from (Matthew 6:13—“deliver us from the evil one.”)
But In the Koran: Allah is Creator of evil and darkness but Muslims are urged to seek refuge in the same one who creates the evil and darkness to escape evil and darkness (not a joke).[Quran 114:1-3]

Some of the other Names of Allah include Al-Mudhell, The Giver of
Dishonour. Al-Mumit, The Bringer of Death, The Destroyer (which is
the exact name Apollyon in Revelation 9:11.) But the Most interesting name which Allah has given himself is Al-Mu'akhir, THE GREAT DECEIVER (According to the Bible Satan is the Great Deceiver in Revelation. 12:9) So how can you believe any “god” who calls himself THE GREAT DECEIVER?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160827 Jan 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Strange Unanimity:
1. Do you not think that this is a strange behaviour. While these different groups are hardly united on any other issue, the thing they are united on is that "Quran is false and Our prophet is a false Prophet"
2. And this is what Quran said "After Truth, what is left, but the falsehood"? And our prophet said "All these who reject Islam are one group" and we see that all Non Muslims unite when there is any dispute with any Muslim country.
3. So is this situation scary? And Muslims should feel afraid? By no means, it is for good of Muslims, it is high time for them to come back to Islam and unite and pose a united front to enemies of Islam.
4. Had the situation been different and some of these Non Muslims were backing and supporting Muslims, there would have been some room for doubt.
PS:
And actually this "unanimity" of all Non Muslim religions and religious groups against Islam, has guided some people to Accept Islam!!
They were amazed to see so much anti Islamic bias in these diverse groups, who do not agree on any single issue.
This strange behaviour told them that Islam must be right and all these religious groups are 'afraid" of Islam!!
Absolutely brilliant two posts brother.

What you modestly suggest as ......

"this "unanimity" of all Non Muslim religions and religious groups against Islam, has guided some people to Accept Islam!!"....

..should in my humble opinion read....

"this "unanimity" of all Non Muslim religions and religious groups against Islam, has guided MANY people to Accept Islam!!"

It describes Ex-Christians like me plus many I personally know who have embraced Islam.

Islam is the ONLY true religion if you claim that you believe in ONE God.

Ofocurse, people are at liberty to completely deny God and they may even be right, but if you profess to believe in ONE God, then Islam is the ONLY answer.

Salaams.
truth

Perth, Australia

#160828 Jan 30, 2013
I asked you before..
Is your Creator what we can see or can't see.
Is that interesting what you going tell me?
no..be honest with you not..i am not interesting in everything.

-which universe is hard find as well very easy see.
you not give me answer..o yes you are so smart..why is like that..we as ordinary people..maybe somewhere we are not simple like that..maybe..but
did you find what i told you..no.
i know that you can't find.
Why ants have colony?
truth

Perth, Australia

#160829 Jan 30, 2013
Did ants need have Muslim or Christian or any religion?

How many pets you have..did you ever have pets as one tiny ant?
no if not please tell me why not?!

Why Creator created ants?

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