Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256295 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160513 Jan 28, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Which is why we have science and we have religion. They look at different things. Not that they cant compliment each other, but they address different questions. The problem is when people confuse them with eachother - then you get junk science.
The sensible ones try to get the best out of religion and science.

Science itself deals with the "created" as experienced by the "created".

The Creator by defintion is above such trivia, I believe.

Therefore, shoving The Creator inside this "created science" is a lot worse than putting several quarts in a pint pot!!
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160514 Jan 28, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Please can you provide latest links from the scientific community on this.
Thanks.
With all the forensic and archeological methods now available to scientists the Shroud of Turin remains an enigma.

Excerpt from link below:
"According to former Nature editor Philip Ball, "it's fair to say that, despite the seemingly definitive tests in 1988, the status of the Shroud of Turin is murkier than ever. Not least, the nature of the image and how it was fixed on the cloth remain deeply puzzling".[7] The shroud continues to remain one of the most studied and controversial artifacts in human history."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160515 Jan 28, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: in case you have not figured this out, there are are two distinct comings of Adam. and by calling a rose a pickle, will not tell the truth. changing TheName of Adam, to any other name shall only decieve yourself. we are all here, in TheSame Story of Creation again as the last time G-D gave it all. and we ain't gotten out of, the Torah forrest yet. because your all still, lost in IT.
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Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160517 Jan 28, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Jesus is God! While His physical body laid in the tomb His soul and divinity went to Paradise to preach the those who died before waiting on His coming. When Jesus Ascended into Heaven He opened the Gates of Heaven and those soul waiting His coming in Paradise entered Heaven with Jesus.
Please think outside the box Paul.
There is not a shred of reliable evidence for such claims.
- Why did he wait to "die" to preach to the dead? Why didn't he do it as God? Makes no sense whatsover when we "humanise" God.
There is no proof of such "preaching" and what's the point in preaching to the dead? Do all the people alive now get the chance to be preached when dead?
- The Gates to heaven belong to God.

Jesus is a name of a man. Please don't forget it. That man has never shown "Godly" qualities.
Anybody can write a book about you when you die and claim you did all that!

Therefore,..Even if God came as a "human" by the name of Jesus, he "fulfilled" the human bit AND THE HUMAN JESUS DIED according to you... and then he ran off back to heaven even according to you.
Jesus did not say, I am going away and coming back as the ghost.
Therfore, God is NOT known as Jesus.
Call "Him".... God, YhWh, Hashem, Jehovah, Allah, Alaah, Ilahy, Elohay, Vishnu, Brahman.......but NOT Jesus!
Jesus is DEAD according to you and GOD is ALIVE and eternal.
The MAn Jesus is just that...A MAN.
- You claim that your "Jesus" destroyed the power of death. Please explain. Did your "Jesus" destroy power of death for himself or for you?

If it is for you and other humans, please provide proof by pointing out REAL people with eternal life (not alleged claims of fatima or mary appearing at the bottom of your bed).
Thank you...
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160518 Jan 28, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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With all the forensic and archeological methods now available to scientists the Shroud of Turin remains an enigma.
Excerpt from link below:
"According to former Nature editor Philip Ball, "it's fair to say that, despite the seemingly definitive tests in 1988, the status of the Shroud of Turin is murkier than ever. Not least, the nature of the image and how it was fixed on the cloth remain deeply puzzling".[7] The shroud continues to remain one of the most studied and controversial artifacts in human history."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin
Surely your god jesus could have told his disciples..."look here chaps, tell them turin shroud is kosher"
Why did he not make anything clear?
Seems you are all playing "gods" by making up your own stories when that man saidnothing about his divinity.
A case of speaking ill of the dead.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160519 Jan 28, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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The sensible ones try to get the best out of religion and science.
Science itself deals with the "created" as experienced by the "created".
The Creator by defintion is above such trivia, I believe.
Therefore, shoving The Creator inside this "created science" is a lot worse than putting several quarts in a pint pot!!
The Creator has left His finger prints (analogy) on His creation and can be seen by those in tone with God. True science can only lead us to a fuller knowledge of God the Creator. The science of Intelligent Design is an infant science and may one day prove valuble in coming to a fuller knowledge of God.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160520 Jan 28, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: then be holy, as i am struggling with becomming Holy also. and sometimes, tough love - is the kindest thing one can say. and does reveal something, about our concern for this whole world. can i love you enough, to rebuke you as gentile as possible? it only means, i care.
My dear rabbee... I love you..I never hate anybody.
I know I write some strong stuff...but that is more in "jest" in response to some spiteful brothers here.
Whatever you may think...in my eyes you are my brother being a "son of Adam"
Take care.
(even if buttboy buford is starving somewhere i will feed him with pleasure...)
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160521 Jan 28, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Surely your god jesus could have told his disciples..."look here chaps, tell them turin shroud is kosher"
Why did he not make anything clear?
Seems you are all playing "gods" by making up your own stories when that man saidnothing about his divinity.
A case of speaking ill of the dead.
God could have brought about salvation anyway He wanted but He chose to come in the flesh to be an oblation for our sins; the guiltless for the guilty. This may go back to our evolutionary past where we evolved the need to please God by sacrificing the best we had to Him. But nothing we had was worthy of God. The only thing worthy of God is God Himself. So God came in the flesh so that man, Jesus, can offer Himself, God, back to God. God works within His own creation not forcing anything upon man. Since man evolved the need to offer the best they had to God, God went along with this need.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#160522 Jan 28, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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God could have brought about salvation anyway He wanted but He chose to come in the flesh to be an oblation for our sins; the guiltless for the guilty. This may go back to our evolutionary past where we evolved the need to please God by sacrificing the best we had to Him. But nothing we had was worthy of God. The only thing worthy of God is God Himself. So God came in the flesh so that man, Jesus, can offer Himself, God, back to God. God works within His own creation not forcing anything upon man. Since man evolved the need to offer the best they had to God, God went along with this need.
There is one big problem in this paul.
You say "he" chose to come in flesh.
But "your god jesus" made no such claim.
Now does that not seem a bit weird?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#160523 Jan 28, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Buford got you with that quote from Hebrews.
How can he get me with a forgery? You know well that Hebrews is a forgery! Don't you?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#160524 Jan 28, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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It is theology and revealed by God. The Shroud of Turin is an example of physical evidence that supports the teachings of the Catholic Church. To this day scientistsÂ’ are at a loss explaining it. We also have the Talmud of the Lady of Guadeloupe. These are just a couple of the most obvious examples bearing witness to God and His Catholic Church.
The shroud of Turin might be archaeological evidence, and therefore subject to that discipline. Why dont you post some links to a credible archealogical examination of it and see what it says....

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#160525 Jan 28, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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The Creator has left His finger prints (analogy) on His creation and can be seen by those in tone with God. True science can only lead us to a fuller knowledge of God the Creator. The science of Intelligent Design is an infant science and may one day prove valuble in coming to a fuller knowledge of God.
There is NO scientist that will EVER label "Intelligent Design" as a science. It is a dogma, part of religion. In fact, "junk science" comes to mind.

All that does is shows the rest of us how unversed in science you are.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#160526 Jan 28, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well then please explain, how that makes it any better. than the forgery called, the quran? when the only thing, i can guarentee that is not a forgery from G-D, is called TheTorah. and i cannot get, any better guarentee, than from G-D HIMSELVES.
in three visits with G-D, i have never heard HIM mention anything but TheTorah. The Very same Story of Creation, we are all here in again, including me and the woman again. Who G-D claims, We are both Adam Who THEY had put to death and now returned. that you all errantly call jesus christ.
Rabbee,

Please step outside the TheTorah box and get inside the Hebrews box and you will see a world of forgery.

Trust me!

The man, who penned the Hebrews, did this sort of thing:

In the beginning, he said, ".........." and filled in the blanks with quotes from Psalms and other prophets, he could lay his hands on.

Now, the 'he' in above can be anything. It can be God, can be Jesus or a bull.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#160527 Jan 28, 2013
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9452500/ns/techno...
Why scientists dismiss 'intelligent design'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_desi...
Reaction from the scientific community

The unequivocal consensus in the scientific community is that intelligent design is not science and has no place in a science curriculum.[89] The U.S. National Academy of Sciences has stated that "creationism, intelligent design, and other claims of supernatural intervention in the origin of life or of species are not science because they are not testable by the methods of science."[90] The U.S. National Science Teachers Association and the American Association for the Advancement of Science have termed it pseudoscience.[91] Others in the scientific community have denounced its tactics, accusing the ID movement of manufacturing false attacks against evolution, of engaging in misinformation and misrepresentation about science, and marginalizing those who teach it.[92] More recently, in September 2012, Bill Nye ("The Science Guy") warned that creationist views threaten science education and innovations in The United States.[93][94]

Scientific criticism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_desi...
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#160528 Jan 28, 2013
Meanwhile.....

Breaking News: Iran 'successfully sends monkey into space'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-2...

Heartiest congratulations to His excellency President Ahmadinejad and Iran.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160529 Jan 28, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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There is one big problem in this paul.
You say "he" chose to come in flesh.
But "your god jesus" made no such claim.
Now does that not seem a bit weird?
He did make the claim through His Holy Catholic Church who is guided in all Truth by the Holy Spirit.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160530 Jan 28, 2013
bmz wrote:
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How can he get me with a forgery? You know well that Hebrews is a forgery! Don't you?
Hebrews is the inspired Word of God.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160531 Jan 28, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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The shroud of Turin might be archaeological evidence, and therefore subject to that discipline. Why dont you post some links to a credible archealogical examination of it and see what it says....
I posted a Wiki link that you can research their references for you self.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160532 Jan 28, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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There is NO scientist that will EVER label "Intelligent Design" as a science. It is a dogma, part of religion. In fact, "junk science" comes to mind.
All that does is shows the rest of us how unversed in science you are.
Those who first promoted the Intelligent Design theory were scientists so you are wrong about your claim that no scientists support ID. We will learn much about God through this infant science.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#160533 Jan 28, 2013
bmz wrote:
Meanwhile.....
Breaking News: Iran 'successfully sends monkey into space'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-2...
Heartiest congratulations to His excellency President Ahmadinejad and Iran.
meanwhile, in other news, local Iranians riot over the price of tomatoes.

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