Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 215,461

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#160398 Jan 27, 2013
Basically you are saying there are many roads to God. And doing good works is good enough?
The laws of the universe are absolute, gravity makes things fall, large bodies attract each other. These are laws which God created, they are solid unwavering set in stone. They declare One truth, they don't decide one day that they will do something else, gravity doesn't take a day off. So just as the law of gravity which God created by his word is sure, so is truth sure, there are not many truths, just as gravity is absolute, so is God's truth is absolute. When God speaks, his words create truth, he called the universe which did not exist- into existing, simply by declaring his truth that "light existed" when infact it did not. So God's word is truth, there is only one version of it, Only one person said - I am the way the truth and the life - Jesus Christ Jesus Christ is called the Word of God, he is God's truth - his law, that which holds all the universe together and created it by his Word-Jesus Christ. He is the truth of God in the flesh. The universe would crumble if God's word was not absolute, for then laws would not be absolute either, which would create choas.
You just have to decide which truth you believe, but you can't create your own, for you have not seen beyond the curtain. But the one who came from heaven has declared to us what lies ahead and how to get there. You need to put your faith in one who knows what lies ahead, because you don't have a clue!
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160399 Jan 27, 2013
aussiejohn wrote:
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Ta John. I haven't rejected God altogether. Just decided any god is unknowable and instead i put my faith into doing right by those about me. I also still respect the bible as it contains profound truths and wisdom, but any book that has stood the test of time would necessarily be so. Thus, the books of all great religions, the epic of Gilgamesh, even the work of Shakespeare all are choc full of wisdom. I just don't choose to take any one as a road map to living a good life. That is because all of these books are also flawed and fallible.
Jesus came so that God can be knowable to those seeking Him. There are many traditions in the Catholic Church that will help guide you in knowing God. Check into the many spiritual paths found within the Catholic Church, such as Carmelite Spirituality, and one of these may appeal to your longing to know God.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160400 Jan 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Have you ever had really, really greasy hash browns?
Even "really, really greasy hash browns" will not defile man. You need to understand what Jesus was talking about.
aussiejohn

Madrid, Spain

#160401 Jan 27, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Jesus came so that God can be knowable to those seeking Him. There are many traditions in the Catholic Church that will help guide you in knowing God. Check into the many spiritual paths found within the Catholic Church, such as Carmelite Spirituality, and one of these may appeal to your longing to know God.
Been there, done that. Until the RCC deals credibly with rampant abuse of minors, of which i've seen in my own community, not having anything to do with them. Can't understand how people can defend the indefensible. But, appreciate the the thought all the same Paul. No hard feelings.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160402 Jan 27, 2013
John Preacher wrote:
Basically you are saying there are many roads to God. And doing good works is good enough?
The laws of the universe are absolute, gravity makes things fall, large bodies attract each other. These are laws which God created, they are solid unwavering set in stone. They declare One truth, they don't decide one day that they will do something else, gravity doesn't take a day off. So just as the law of gravity which God created by his word is sure, so is truth sure, there are not many truths, just as gravity is absolute, so is God's truth is absolute. When God speaks, his words create truth, he called the universe which did not exist- into existing, simply by declaring his truth that "light existed" when infact it did not. So God's word is truth, there is only one version of it, Only one person said - I am the way the truth and the life - Jesus Christ Jesus Christ is called the Word of God, he is God's truth - his law, that which holds all the universe together and created it by his Word-Jesus Christ. He is the truth of God in the flesh. The universe would crumble if God's word was not absolute, for then laws would not be absolute either, which would create choas.
You just have to decide which truth you believe, but you can't create your own, for you have not seen beyond the curtain. But the one who came from heaven has declared to us what lies ahead and how to get there. You need to put your faith in one who knows what lies ahead, because you don't have a clue!
You ramble on creating a straw-man argument. I accept Jesus as my personal Savior and have been Born Again of the water and the Spirit. Jesus is the only Way to God. This being said God is free to save whom He choses to save. Though He has bond salvation to baptism, He has not bond Himself to it. As Jesus reached out to the non-Jews of His day He still reaches out to those who are not Born Again Christians. In fact the Born Again Christian will be judged harder then the non-Christian because to whom much is given much is required.
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#160403 Jan 27, 2013
Hey Aussie John, Catholic PaulWv is correct, Jesus did come so that God could be knowable.
If you truly want the True God to reveal himself to you, pray this:
"Will the True God reveal himself to me" I believe God will honor a prayer like that, and Reveal his son Jesus Christ to you. Ofcourse I would suggest a Baptist or Pentacostal church.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160404 Jan 27, 2013
aussiejohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Been there, done that. Until the RCC deals credibly with rampant abuse of minors, of which i've seen in my own community, not having anything to do with them. Can't understand how people can defend the indefensible. But, appreciate the the thought all the same Paul. No hard feelings.
Is the abuse of minors acceptable according to the Catholic Church's teachings? No! Because men have failed to live up to their commitment to God does not mean Jesus has not revealed His Truth to His Catholic Church. Even among Jesus' twelve apostles there was one that fell short of his calling in Christ Jesus. Should all of Jesus apostles abandon Him, saying:“Look what one of His closest followers has done, let us too betray and leave Him.”
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#160405 Jan 27, 2013
Hey Aussie John,

In the end Salvation does not rest in what Church you believe in, but who you believe in.
All one needs do to be saved, is pray the sinners prayer, which is something like this.
"Father God I confess I am a sinner and need a savior, I ask Jesus Christ to be the Lord of my life, I believe he died on the cross for my sins, was burried and resurrected. Father God, I make you the Lord over my life come into my heart. In Jesus name, Amen

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#160406 Jan 27, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Even "really, really greasy hash browns" will not defile man. You need to understand what Jesus was talking about.
Dont speak down to me.

I know a bad hash brown when I see it.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#160407 Jan 27, 2013
John Preacher wrote:
So God's word is truth, there is only one version of it, Only one person said - I am the way the truth and the life - Jesus Christ Jesus Christ is called the Word of God, he is God's truth - his law, that which holds all the universe together and created it by his Word-Jesus Christ.
We beg to differ here.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160408 Jan 27, 2013
John Preacher wrote:
Basically you are saying there are many roads to God. And doing good works is good enough?
The laws of the universe are absolute, gravity makes things fall, large bodies attract each other. These are laws which God created, they are solid unwavering set in stone. They declare One truth, they don't decide one day that they will do something else, gravity doesn't take a day off. So just as the law of gravity which God created by his word is sure, so is truth sure, there are not many truths, just as gravity is absolute, so is God's truth is absolute. When God speaks, his words create truth, he called the universe which did not exist- into existing, simply by declaring his truth that "light existed" when infact it did not. So God's word is truth, there is only one version of it, Only one person said - I am the way the truth and the life - Jesus Christ Jesus Christ is called the Word of God, he is God's truth - his law, that which holds all the universe together and created it by his Word-Jesus Christ. He is the truth of God in the flesh. The universe would crumble if God's word was not absolute, for then laws would not be absolute either, which would create choas.
You just have to decide which truth you believe, but you can't create your own, for you have not seen beyond the curtain. But the one who came from heaven has declared to us what lies ahead and how to get there. You need to put your faith in one who knows what lies ahead, because you don't have a clue!
There are many spiritual disciplines that will help one in coming into greater union with God. All these disciplines rests on Jesus Christ as a Lord, Savior and God. Jesus through His death and resurrection has reconciled man to God and opened the Gates of Heaven to all those God has found worthy. It is not our jobs to try and figure out who is going to heaven and who is not, but rather to preach the Word of God in season and out of season.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160409 Jan 27, 2013
John Preacher wrote:
Hey Aussie John,
In the end Salvation does not rest in what Church you believe in, but who you believe in.
All one needs do to be saved, is pray the sinners prayer, which is something like this.
"Father God I confess I am a sinner and need a savior, I ask Jesus Christ to be the Lord of my life, I believe he died on the cross for my sins, was burried and resurrected. Father God, I make you the Lord over my life come into my heart. In Jesus name, Amen
Where in the Holy Bible can I find the "sinners paryer"? Where in the Holy Bible does it say that is all one has to do to be saved? Is this prayer some magic incantation? Jesus said: "You must be Born Again of the water and the Spirit to enter the Kingdom of God."
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160410 Jan 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Dont speak down to me.
I know a bad hash brown when I see it.
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John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#160411 Jan 27, 2013
Amen to that-Paul WV good night I'm of to bed- we'll chat tomorrow
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#160413 Jan 27, 2013
Here it is :

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Romans 10:9-13).

Those who call upon the name of Jesus Shall be saved, the hebrew name Jesus means Salvation. This is why it is the only name given unto men by which we must be saved. And those who call upon it, and believe in what He did on the cross will be saved.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#160415 Jan 27, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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?
What I dont get about Born Agains and other similar Jesus freaks is why their religious identity can not survive without imposing their views on others.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#160416 Jan 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
What I dont get about Born Agains and other similar Jesus freaks is why their religious identity can not survive without imposing their views on others.
Christians are to preach the Word of God in season and out of season. The seed is cast out and its the soil, rain and son that gives it growth. If a Christian tries to impose God's Word on someone then they are wrong; but this does not mean they can not work within the political system to inact laws they feel are best for society.
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#160417 Jan 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
What I dont get about Born Agains and other similar Jesus freaks is why their religious identity can not survive without imposing their views on others.
We preach how to be saved, so that people like you, can have a chance to get to heaven, we certainly don't do it for own sake.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#160418 Jan 27, 2013
John Preacher wrote:
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We preach how to be saved, so that people like you, can have a chance to get to heaven, we certainly don't do it for own sake.
There you go again.

You totally do it for your sake. Your theology dictates the presence of heaven, and as long as you follow the 12 steps then you are golden. Others like me dont believe in your theology and especially in your notion of heaven. Therefore all you are achieving by preaching to me is making yourself feel better by making you think you are doing social work.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#160419 Jan 27, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Christians are to preach the Word of God in season and out of season. The seed is cast out and its the soil, rain and son that gives it growth. If a Christian tries to impose God's Word on someone then they are wrong; but this does not mean they can not work within the political system to inact laws they feel are best for society.
Bottom line - Can you practice your religion without preaching to others?

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