Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Is that all you could offer in your off-topic rebuttal?
Read again what I wrote:
Ignorant Fool,
Think hard if you really have a brain. Why would the so-called Treasurer of the Jews hide the people's wealth? If he had done that, the Jews would have killed Kinana.
And you think that Kinana was the treasurer of all the Jews?
Can you confirm from Jewish sources if Kinana had been appointed Treasure by the Jews?
The Jews never let anyone take control of their wealth. Each person had his own wealth. And you fools believe that he was their treasurer?
Kinana, the murderer, was killed by Muhammad b. Maslama because Kinana had murdered his brother. And the punishment was justified. Kinana earned it.
Stefano, are you coming from the lineage of Kinana? LMAO! Buford surely is from Kinana's line.
I will be off to bed and will read your incoherence tomorrow. Thanks and good night"
Try your level best to reply point by point. OK?
Brainless fool,

which of the two lines I wrote is unclear to your lazy neuron?

Read again what I wrote to you:

"Do I have to think hard in order to answer to the conjecture you made up?

Don't be more ridiculous than ever."

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Those filthy orders in the Bible, were given by Yahweh and are the description of what was required by Yahweh. Of course Yahweh did not screw 32 women. They were offered to the priests.
Have you gone senile on us?
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Medieval Sources of the Gospel of Barnabas

It is not hard to prove to Muslims that this Gospel was first compiled many centuries after the times of both Jesus and Muhammad. Three of examples of medieval influences will be considered here.

1. The Centenary Year of Jubilee

One of the laws Moses gave to the people of Israel was that a jubilee year was to observed twice every century when slaves would be liberated and debts cancelled. God ordained it in these words:

A jubilee year shall that fiftieth year be to you. Leviticus 25:11

About 1300 AD Pope Boniface the Eighth decreed that the jubilee year should be reintroduced but that it should only be held at the turn of each century, that is, once every hundred years. After his death, however, Pope Clemens the Sixth decreed that the jubilee year should revert to every fifty years following the Biblical decree and there was talk thereafter of reducing it further. In the Gospel of Barnabas this saying is attributed to Jesus:

And then through all the world will God be worshipped, and mercy received, insomuch that the year of jubilee, which now cometh every hundred years, shall by the Messiah be reduced to every year in every place. Gospel of Barnabas, para 82

The anachronism is obvious – the author of the Gospel of Barnabas could only have spoken of the jubilee year coming every hundred years if he knew of the decree of Pope Boniface. Whoever wrote this Gospel makes Jesus repeat a proclamation which was only made at least thirteen centuries after his time! This proves that the Gospel is a forgery of not earlier than the 14th century AD.
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2. Quotations from Dante’s Inferno

Dante was an Italian who lived at about the same time as Pope Boniface. He wrote a well-known classic titled Divina Comedia – the "Divine Comedy". It was a fantasy about hell, purgatory and heaven according to the beliefs of his time. Many passages in the Gospel of Barnabas show a dependence on his work, one of which is a saying attributed to Jesus of the prophets of old:

Readily and with gladness they went to their death, so as not to offend against the law of God given by Moses his servant, and go and serve false and lying gods. Gospel of Barnabas, para 23

The expression dei falsi e lugiardi (false and lying gods) is found elsewhere in the Gospel of Barnabas. Jesus is recorded as again using this phrase (para 78) while Herod is also said by the author to have "adored the false and lying gods" (para 217). The cliche is found in neither the Bible nor the Qur’an but is a direct quote from Dante!(Inferno 1.72).

In its actual descriptions of heaven and hell the Gospel of Barnabas follows Dante exactly while contradicting the Qur’an. Jesus is said to have declared to Simon Peter:

Know ye therefore that hell is one, yet hath seven centres one below another. Hence, even as sin is of seven kinds, for as seven gates of hell hath Satan generated it: so there are seven punishments therein. Gospel of Barnabas, para 135

Dante gives precisely this description in the fifth and sixth cantos of his Inferno. Speaking of the heavens the Gospel of Barnabas states that they are nine and that Paradise itself is greater than all of them together (para 178). This again parallels Dante who also speaks of nine heavens with an Empyrean, a tenth heaven above them all. These depictions of heaven, however, directly contradict the Qur’an which teaches that after Allah had created the earth, he fashioned paradise as seven heavens (Surah 2:29).
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3. The Medieval Environment of the Gospel

Other passages from the Gospel show that the author was more at home in the climate and seasons of southern Europe than in the land of Palestine. He makes Jesus speak of how beautiful the world is in summer-time when the harvest and fruit abound (para 169). This is a fair description of Italy in summer but not of Palestine where the rain falls in winter and the fields are parched in summer.

Likewise the Gospel of Barnabas speaks of storing wine in wooden wine-casks (para 152), a common practice in medieval Europe but not in first-century Palestine where wine was stored in skins (Matthew 9:17). Further proof of the author’s ignorance of the geography of Palestine is found in this statement:

Having arrived at the city of Nazareth the seamen spread through the city all that Jesus had wrought. Gospel of Barnabas, para 20

In this passage Nazareth is represented as a harbour on the Lake of Galilee. After this Jesus is said to have gone "up to Capernaum". Every disciple of Jesus would have known that Capernaum was the city on the shores of the lake while Nazareth is up in the hills. Jesus would have gone up from Capernaum to Nazareth, not the other way around as the Gospel of Barnabas has it.

These evidences all prove that the Gospel of Barnabas is a forgery compiled in southern Europe sometime around the 16th century after Christ. Let us proceed to examine other evidences that discount the authenticity of this book that calls itself a Gospel.
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The Messiah – Jesus or Muhammad?

John the Baptist denied that he was the Messiah when challenged by the Jewish leaders (John 1:20). The Gospel of Barnabas makes Jesus deny the same thing in much the same words:

Jesus confessed and said the truth:‘I am not the Messiah ... I am indeed sent to the house of Israel as a prophet of salvation; but after me shall come the Messiah’. Gospel of Barnabas, paras 42, 82

Who was to be the coming Messiah, then? Elsewhere the Gospel makes Jesus say "The name of the Messiah is Admirable ... God said: Wait Mohammed; for thy sake I will to create paradise ... Mohammed is his blessed name" (para 97). Here the author of the Gospel of Barnabas completely overreaches himself for the Qur’an clearly states, no less than eleven times, that Jesus alone is the Messiah. The Bible confirms this too on many occasions (John 4:26, Matthew 16:20) and one quotation from the Qur’an will be sufficient to prove the point:

O Mary! Lo! Allah gives you glad tidings of a Word from him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the hereafter. Surah 3:45

The title here is Al-Masih, "the Messiah", and Jesus himself is called Al-Masihu Isa, "the Messiah Jesus", elsewhere in the book (Surah 4:171). So the Gospel of Barnabas incontrovertibly contradicts the Qur’an when it declares that Muhammad was to be the Messiah. No Muslim can be true to his own holy book while at the same time trying to defend the Gospel of Barnabas as an authentic Gospel.

What is very interesting here is the discovery that this Gospel not only contradicts the Qur’an but also itself. In the prologue to the book it speaks of "Jesus the Nazarene, called Christ" and states that it is the "true Gospel of Jesus, called Christ". The author does not seem to have been aware that Messiah and Christ are interchangeable terms, meaning the same thing. The latter derives from the Greek word Christos which is a translation of the original Hebrew word Mashiah.
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@ frijoles...
I have read your comments and express my appreciation for your long overdue challenge to some of the bigoted Christians from a Jewish point of view.

Such strong challenges are needed to stop these poor deluded people from carrying out more holocausts, murders and crusades against the infidel - Jews and Muslims.

I am not for one moment suggesting that Muslims are blameless. There are many dumb Muslims who use relgion as an excuse to promote their own agendas. I am sure you will agree the same goes for Jews.
Thanks again.

Let's remind ourselves of Christian love...(I used to make many excuses saying these were in the past...BUT they are happening NOW, but the Priests are wearing Politician's uniform so they don't look "religious"!!)

"Sprees of MURDER and ARSON were LED BY PRIESTS, and the same pattern was repeated every time a NEW CRUSADE (War on Terror!!!!!) was PREACHED. As one influential ABBOT, Peter of Cluny, pointed out:

It was EXPENSIVE in men and money TO TRAVEL to the end of the world TO FIGHT MOHAMMEDANS, YET there were INFIDELS living LOCALLY who were were FAR MORE GUILTY TOWARDS CHRIST.

The implication is that it would be MUCH CHEAPER, EASIER, SAFER, and WORTHIER TO MASSACRE LOCAL JEWS than to attack distant MUSLIMS - who WERE LIKELY TO FIGHT BACK (AS HAPPENING NOW!!!!!).

PREACHERS promoting the SECOND CRUSADE prompted MASSACRES OF JEWS across Germany and France.

http://www.heretication.info/_jews.html
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Contradictions between the Barnabas Gospel and the Qur’an

There are other contradictions between the Qur’an and the Gospel of Barnabas which cannot be satisfactorily explained. One relates to the birth of Jesus as it is told in each book. The Gospel says this about the moment of his delivery:

The virgin was surrounded by a light exceeding bright and brought forth her son without pain. Gospel of Barnabas, para 3

This statement has no Biblical equivalent but parallels Catholic beliefs of the Middle Ages. It is further evidence that the Gospel of Barnabas is a forgery composed up to fifteen centuries after the time of Christ. What is significant for Muslims, however, is that it totally disagrees with the Qur’an which says of Mary and the birth of Jesus:

And the pangs of childbirth drove her unto the trunk of the palm tree. Surah 19:23

There is little room here for Muslims to maintain their cherished belief that they have, in the Gospel of Barnabas, an original Gospel which is consistent with the Qur’an and Islamic tradition. It is not surprising that many Muslim scholars have, in recent times, rejected the Gospel as a forgery. Nonetheless there are still many Muslim writers, often well aware of the overwhelming evidences against it, who still promote it as an authentic text.
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http://www.standwithus.com/app/inews/view_n.a...

Muslim Brotherhood Fact Sheet

The Muslim Brotherhood logo fits its motto:

"Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Qur'an is our law. Jihad is our way.
Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope. Allahu akbar!”[1]

· The Brotherhood’s goal is to turn the world into an Islamist empire. The Muslim Brotherhood, founded in Egypt in 1928, is a revolutionary fundamentalist movement to restore the caliphate and strict shariah (Islamist) law in Muslim lands and, ultimately, the world. Today, it has chapters in 80 countries.

“It is in the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated, to impose its law on all nations and to extend its power to the entire planet.”—Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna[2]

· The Brotherhood wants America to fall. It tells followers to be “patient” because America “is heading towards its demise.” The U.S. is an infidel that “does not champion moral and human values and cannot lead humanity.”—Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Badi, Sept. 2010[3]

· The Brotherhood claims western democracy is “corrupt,”“unrealistic.” and “false.”
—Former Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Mahdi Akef [4]

· The Brotherhood calls for jihad against “the Muslim’s real enemies, not only Israel but also the United States. Waging jihad against both of these infidels is a commandment of Allah that cannot be disregarded.”—Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Badi, Sept. 2010[5]
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The Brotherhood assassinated Anwar Sadat in 1981 for making peace with the hated “Zionist entity.”[6]It also assassinated Egypt’s prime minister in 1948 and attempted to assassinate President Nasser in 1954.[7]

· Hamas is a “wing of the Muslim Brotherhood,” according to the Hamas Charter, Chapter 2. The Charter calls for the murder of Jews, the “obliteration” of Israel and its replacement with an Islamist theocracy.

· The Brotherhood supports Hezbollah’s war against the Jews. Brotherhood leader Mahdi Akef declared he was “prepared to send 10,000 jihad fighters immediately to fight at the side of Hezbollah” during Hezbollah’s war against Israel in 2006.[8]

· The Brotherhood glorifies Osama bin Laden. Osama is “in all certainty, a mujahid (heroic fighter), and I have no doubt in his sincerity in resisting the occupation, close to Allah on high.”—Former Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Mahdi Akef, Nov. 2007[9]

· The Brotherhood “sanctioned martyrdom operations in Palestine.…They do not have bombs, so they turn themselves into bombs. This is a necessity.”— Muslim Brotherhood Spiritual leader Yusuf al-Qaradawi, Dec. 17, 2010[10]

· The Brotherhood advocates violent jihad: The “change that the [Muslim] nation seeks can only be attained through jihad and sacrifice and by raising a jihadi generation that pursues death just as the enemies pursue life,” said Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Badi in a September 2010 sermon.[11] Major terrorists came out of the Muslim Brotherhood, including bin Laden’s deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (mastermind of the 9/11 attacks).[12]
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The Brotherhood advocates a deceptive strategy in democracies: appear moderate and use existing institutions to gain power.“The civilizational-jihadist process…is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house…so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious overall other religions,” reads a US Muslim Brotherhood 1991 document.[13] It believes it can conquer Europe peacefully:“After having been expelled twice, Islam will be victorious and reconquer Europe....I am certain that this time, victory will be won not by the sword but by preaching and [Islamic] ideology.”— Muslim Brotherhood Spiritual leader Yusuf al-Qaradawi,“Fatwa,” 2003[14]

· The Brotherhood uses democracy, but once in power it will replace democracy with fundamentalist shariah law because it is the “true democracy.”“The final, absolute message from heaven contains all the values which the secular world claims to have invented....Islam and its values antedated the West by founding true democracy.”
—Former Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Mahdi Akef, Nov. 2007[15]

· The Brotherhood’s view of women’s rights is to subjugate and segregate women: The ideal society would include “a campaign against ostentation in dress and loose behaviour…segregation of male and female students; private meetings between men and women, unless within the permitted degrees of relationship, to be counted as a crime for which both will be censured…prohibition of dancing and other such pastimes." —Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna,“Five Tracts”[16]

· The Brotherhood supports Female Genital Mutilation:“[the Americans] wage war on Muslim leaders, the traditions of its faith and its ideas. They even wage war against female circumcision, a practice current in 36 countries, which has been prevalent since the time of the Pharaohs.”—Former Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Mahdi Akef, 2007[17]

· The Brotherhood will not treat non-Muslim minorities, such as Coptic Christians, as equals.“Allah's word will reign supreme and the infidels' word will be inferior.”—Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Badi, Sept. 2010[18]
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The Brotherhood refuses to commit to continuing the Israel-Egypt peace treaty.[19]Muslim Brotherhood leaders have said that “as far as the movement is concerned, Israel is a Zionist entity occupying holy Arab and Islamic lands...and we will get rid of it no matter how long it takes.”—Former Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Mahdi Akef, 2005 and 2007[20]

· The Brotherhood has anti-Semitic roots. It supported the Nazis, organized mass demonstrations against the Jews with slogans promoting ethnic cleansing like “Down with the Jews!” and “Jews get out of Egypt and Palestine!” in 1936; carried out a violent pogrom against Egypt’s Jews in November 1945; and made sure that Nazi collaborator and Palestinian Mufti al-Husseini was granted asylum in Egypt in 1946.[21]

· The Brotherhood remains virulently anti-Semitic.“Today the Jews are not the Israelites praised by Allah, but the descendants of the Israelites who defied His word. Allah was angry with them and turned them into monkeys and pigs….There is no doubt that the battle in which the Muslims overcome the Jews [will come]....In that battle the Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them." —Muslim Brotherhood Spiritual leader Yusuf al-Qaradawi[22]
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[8]Cited in Lt. Col.(res.) Jonathan Dahoah-Halevi,“The Muslim Brotherhood: A Moderate Islamic Alternative to al-Qaeda or a Partner in Global Jihad?” Jerusalem Viewpoints, Nov. 1, 2007, at http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.a... ?

[9]“Reading into the Muslim Brotherhood’s Documents,” IkhwanWeb.org , June 13, 2007 at “The Muslim Brotherhood,” The Investigative Project on Terrorism, http://www.investigativeproject.org/profile/1...

[10]Interview with leading Sunni scholar Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, on Al-Hayat 2 TV on December 17, 2010, translated at MEMRI at http://www.memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/273...

[11]Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammad Badi, "How Islam Confronts the Oppression and Tyranny,” Sermon, Sept. 2010, translated at MEMRI at http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/46...

[12]Dore Gold,“The Muslim Brotherhood and the Egyptian Crisis,” Jerusalem Issues Briefs, Feb. 2, 2011, at http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.a...

[13]Steven Merly,“The Muslim Brotherhood in the United States,” Current Trends, April 2009, at http://www.currenttrends.org/docLib/20090411_...

[14]Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi,“Fatwa,” 2003, translated at Lt. Col.(res.) Jonathan Dahoah-Halevi,“The Muslim Brotherhood: A Moderate Islamic Alternative to al-Qaeda or a Partner in Global Jihad?” Jerusalem Viewpoints, Nov. 1, 2007, at http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.a... ?

[15]Lt. Col.(res.) Jonathan Dahoah-Halevi,“The Muslim Brotherhood: A Moderate Islamic Alternative to al-Qaeda or a Partner in Global Jihad?” Jerusalem Viewpoints, Nov. 1, 2007, at http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.a...
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[16]"Toward the Light" in Five Tracts of Hasan al-Banna, trans. by Charles Wendell (Berkeley, 1978), ISBN 0-520-09584-7 pp.126f

[17]Cited in Lt. Col.(res.) Jonathan Dahoah-Halevi,“The Muslim Brotherhood: A Moderate Islamic Alternative to al-Qaeda or a Partner in Global Jihad?” Jerusalem Viewpoints, Nov. 1, 2007, at http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.a...

[18]Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammad Badi, "How Islam Confronts the Oppression and Tyranny,” Sermon, Sept. 2010, translated at MEMRI at http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/46...

[19]“Muslim Brotherhood:‘We are against Zionism,’” The Jerusalem Post, Feb. 4, 2011, at http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx...

[20]Cited in Lt. Col.(res.) Jonathan Dahoah-Halevi,“The Muslim Brotherhood: A Moderate Islamic Alternative to al-Qaeda or a Partner in Global Jihad?” Jerusalem Viewpoints, Nov. 1, 2007, at http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.a...

[21]Mathais Kunztel,“Jew-Hatred and Jihad: The Nazi Roots of the 9/11 Attack,” The Weekly Standard, Sept. 17, 2007, archived at http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/J...

[22]Cited in Lt. Col.(res.) Jonathan Dahoah-Halevi,“The Muslim Brotherhood: A Moderate Islamic Alternative to al-Qaeda or a Partner in Global Jihad?” Jerusalem Viewpoints, Nov. 1, 2007, at http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.a... ?

Filed under Education, StandWithUs, Islamic Jihad on Friday, February 04, 2011 by Author: Admin.
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Classic!
Ignorant Fool!
The point was that Matthew churned out big lies. There was no massacre of little boys carried out.
If there were any massacre, it would have been reported and recorded in the Jewish History and also in the Roman History.
So, you should not give a rat's arse about Matthew's junk and stuff.
BMZ---The point was that Matthew churned out big lies. There was no massacre of little boys carried out.

If there were any massacre, it WOULD have been reported and RECORDED in the JEWISH History and also in the Roman History.

HughBe--- Greetings BMZ, I am going to make a few observations.

1. The Matthew that you speak of was a JEW.
2. This same JEW, Matthew, reported and recorded his JEWISH History.
3. Matthew the Jew was not writing his Jewish history for non-Jews but for the benefit of his fellow Jews.
4. Let me give a VERY GOOD reason why the massacre was not recorded by OTHER Jewish sources beside Matthew's account. It is to DISCREDIT Christianity and to support the programme of DECEPTION of the Jewish people by the rabbis.
Also, do NOT underestimate the CORRECTION of scriptures and other history by the rabbis and their disciples.
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Hamas Charter

http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/www.thejerusa...

Article Thirty-Two (in part): The Attempts to Isolate the Palestinian People

World Zionism and Imperialist forces have been attempting, with smart moves and considered planning, to push the Arab countries, one after another, out of the circle of conflict with Zionism, in order, ultimately, to isolate the Palestinian People. Egypt has already been cast out of the conflict, to a very great extent through the treacherous Camp David Accords, and she has been trying to drag other countries into similar agreements in order to push them out of the circle of conflict. Hamas is calling upon the Arab and Islamic peoples to act seriously and tirelessly in order to frustrate that dreadful scheme and to make the masses aware of the danger of coping out of the circle of struggle with Zionism. Today it is Palestine and tomorrow it may be another country or other countries. For Zionist scheming has no end, and after Palestine they will covet expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates. Only when they have completed digesting the area on which they will have laid their hand, they will look forward to more expansion, etc. Their scheme has been laid out in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and their present [conduct] is the best proof of what is said there.
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The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of...

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion is an antisemitic hoax purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. It was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. Henry Ford funded printing of 500,000 copies that were distributed throughout the US in the 1920s.

Adolf Hitler and the Nazis publicized the text as if it were a valid document, although it had already been exposed as fraudulent. After the Nazi Party came to power in 1933, it ordered the text to be studied in German classrooms. The historian Norman Cohn suggested that Hitler used the Protocols as his primary justification for initiating the Holocaust —his "warrant for genocide".

The Protocols purports to document the minutes of a late 19th-century meeting of Jewish leaders discussing their goal of global Jewish hegemony by subverting the morals of Gentiles, and by controlling the press and the world's economies. It is still widely available today and even now sometimes presented as a genuine document, whether on the Internet or in print in numerous languages.

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But they did not have high resolution night vision, which Jesus had. Please read this story from Mark 6 and look out for Stefano's 'Grande' comment:
"45 Immediately Jesus made his disciples get into the boat and go on ahead of him to Bethsaida, while he dismissed the crowd. 46 After leaving them, he went up on a mountainside to pray.
47 Later that night, the boat was in the middle of the lake, and he was alone on land.
48 He saw the disciples straining at the oars, because the wind was against them. Shortly before dawn he went out to them, walking on the lake......."
Having studied the three accounts, I conclude that the boat had not gone far out at all.
If it had been stuck up at about 4 miles, Jesus would not have been able to see men straining at oars in the dark, even if it were a full moon night. And how could have those men seen Jesus walking in the dark stormy night?
I think the boat was stuck up all night, a few metres away from the shore and Jesus waded in to help and the fools thought he was walking on water.
The story is absurd!
Why did you call me out for this?

Didn't I make it already clear that I REJECT any miracolus story related to the Nazarene from any so called holy book, Bible and Quran included?

Has the only neuron you have decided last night to make his "harakiri"?

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I believe in Muhammad's testimony for a very good reason and that is:
Your God is only one God! There is no other besides God.
So the good reason why you believe in Muhammad, leaving aside all the absurdity recorded in Quran, that them alone are enough to disbelieve him, is because he introduced to pagans the monotheistic idea of god? LOL

Do you have the capacity of thinking of a child? Have you ever thought to use the brain to reason?

Has ever passed in your mind that is not the number of gods the main factor to believe or reject a god or religion but the evidences that a prophet, messenger, spokesman ect brought to the folks?

As far as we know Muhammad had brought no evidences at all to support the claim of the existence of his god.

I do wonder why you tell to others to think hard when from your post that attitude totally miss?

What a hilarious ignorant fool you are, really.
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Those filthy orders in the Bible, were given by Yahweh and are the description of what was required by Yahweh. Of course Yahweh did not screw 32 women. They were offered to the priests.
No, the orders were given by Moses, the same Moses punished by God in the desert for his crimes.
This kind of behaviour is a criminal aeration to Christians and Jews, it is a way of life for the sick muztards.

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