Who Is Allah?

There are 220158 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#159953 Jan 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Incorrect - you just stated previously that you follow unquestionably the Catholic Church and all their writings/official translations.
consistency please
rabbee: well frijoles, will a liar ever sacrifice their lie for the sake of the truth? follow the strict docterines of the catholic church, but alas i don't. a pope calling himself holy or man of g-d, is like any muslem calling them selves a man of g-d/s.
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#159954 Jan 24, 2013
But the real Problem, is that Islam claims all the Jewish Prophets (David etc) as its own, but they are obviously not from the same source. For the Prophets contradict Islam.
Isaiah the Prophet wrote of the coming of Jesus and called him Mighty God.
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6).

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#159955 Jan 24, 2013
John Preacher wrote:
But the real Problem, is that Islam claims all the Jewish Prophets (David etc) as its own, but they are obviously not from the same source. For the Prophets contradict Islam.
Isaiah the Prophet wrote of the coming of Jesus and called him Mighty God.
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6).
Christianity does the same to us.

And worse as you just exemplified.

People just need to chill and leave us alone.
John Preacher

Ashburn, VA

#159956 Jan 24, 2013
And Look at what King/Prophet David wrote:

I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel. Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him." (Psalm 2:7-12).

As you can see from this prophecy, God callx Jesus his son, says that he will rule the nations, and all thise who don't "kiss the son" - show his son respect will perish, when he comes to judge the world.

Please read my book, I do not want muslims yo be deceived, God wants all muslims to find salvation through his Son.

Read My free book, please don't be deceived:
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John MacArthur Sermon
www.youtube.com/watch...
Joel Richardson's website for more books and dvds
www.joelstrumpet.com
Its Supernatural - Joel Richardson interview:
www.sidroth.org/site/News2...
Armageddon News - Mark of the beast Revealed
www.youtube.com/watch...
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#159957 Jan 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Lets focus back on the writings.
You mentioned previously that the church sanctioned several official translations of the bible/Old testament. And I asked you how you could ignore the commandments of that document. Your reply, as I understood it, was that the Church told you so.
I don't understand how you can navigate thru that contradiction of one hand ACCEPTING some version of the OT, but in the other hand ALLOWING the Church to tell you to ignore that same body of text that they translated admittedly for your benefit.
Jesus fulfilled the Law and the Prophets so we are no longer bond under law to the laws of the Old Testament. God made a new covenant with His people and now we are taught by God; for "God is with us": Emanual. We now follow the law of love for God, neighbor and enemy. The Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ, with the pope and bishops as the visible head.

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#159958 Jan 24, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Jesus fulfilled the Law and the Prophets so we are no longer bond under law to the laws of the Old Testament. God made a new covenant with His people and now we are taught by God; for "God is with us": Emanual. We now follow the law of love for God, neighbor and enemy. The Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ, with the pope and bishops as the visible head.
We have been through that before. Argument from authority. That wasnt what I was asking.

I was asking what your thought process was in how you determine WHICH laws you choose to ignore (I imagine you do not kill or commit adultery and probably honor your parents but you ignore the shellfish and Sabbath provisions)...

...and how you reconcile the contradiction between text and church (or in the last case - text and jesus)

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#159959 Jan 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
We have been through that before. Argument from authority. That wasnt what I was asking.
I was asking what your thought process was in how you determine WHICH laws you choose to ignore (I imagine you do not kill or commit adultery and probably honor your parents but you ignore the shellfish and Sabbath provisions)...
...and how you reconcile the contradiction between text and church (or in the last case - text and jesus)
It must be, more or less, in the same way of how the rabbis told to Jews to ignore certain laws and accept others.

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#159960 Jan 24, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
It must be, more or less, in the same way of how the rabbis told to Jews to ignore certain laws and accept others.
As I stated before - as a Jew I can (or I can look up) the reason, or the thought process, for which law to apply when and why. But I am asking for the same from the other religionist and I do not get an answer.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#159961 Jan 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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We have been through that before. Argument from authority. That wasnt what I was asking.
I was asking what your thought process was in how you determine WHICH laws you choose to ignore (I imagine you do not kill or commit adultery and probably honor your parents but you ignore the shellfish and Sabbath provisions)...
...and how you reconcile the contradiction between text and church (or in the last case - text and jesus)
rabbee: well what somebody, with a ficticious name said. probably not what the person, who said it really meant anyway. if you can trust, then that is what the person actually said anyway. funny you would think, TheBoth of We, would of remembered what We said was true then? and i don't recognize, saying any of IT.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#159962 Jan 24, 2013
ps: We Both, did not write anything then either. apparently G-D, was saving that for now. obviously cause they did not, have the internet fully developed yet.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#159963 Jan 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
We have been through that before. Argument from authority. That wasnt what I was asking.
I was asking what your thought process was in how you determine WHICH laws you choose to ignore (I imagine you do not kill or commit adultery and probably honor your parents but you ignore the shellfish and Sabbath provisions)...
...and how you reconcile the contradiction between text and church (or in the last case - text and jesus)
Jesus, God, now teaches His people through His Mystical Body of the Catholic Church. His teachings can now be found in the Cathecism of the Catholic Church. The Cathecism of the Catholic Church is of divine origin since it has the approval of God's Church. The pope and Magisterium of the Catholic Church have the same authority that the prophets of Israel had and the disciples of Jesus had.
Anonymous

Birmingham, UK

#159964 Jan 24, 2013
John Preacher wrote:
And Look at what King/Prophet David wrote:
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel. Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him." (Psalm 2:7-12).
As you can see from this prophecy, God callx Jesus his son, says that he will rule the nations, and all thise who don't "kiss the son" - show his son respect will perish, when he comes to judge the world.
Please read my book, I do not want muslims yo be deceived, God wants all muslims to find salvation through his Son.
Read My free book, please don't be deceived:
www.sharepdfbooks.com/HANMQ56EZYWI/The_Islami...
John MacArthur Sermon
www.youtube.com/watch...
Joel Richardson's website for more books and dvds
www.joelstrumpet.com
Its Supernatural - Joel Richardson interview:
www.sidroth.org/site/News2...
Armageddon News - Mark of the beast Revealed
www.youtube.com/watch...
as a muslim we are aware that the bible itself is deceptive. it has been altered and changed many times that it has lost meaning and even contradicts itself. Christianity is a very confused religion, the reason more people convert away from Christianity or accuse biblical scriptures the most.

the quran has been left untouched from the beginning. there is no confusion. remember that Muslims do respect the Jews and the Christians and refer to them as our brothers. but remember Moses himself claimed that the final prophet will not be of the Jewish nation. Jesus was the Jews last chance and the final great prophet was sent to the Arabs, the descendants of Ishmael, brother of Isaac and son of Abraham. Abraham prayed to god for Ishmael to have greatness in his descendants and god answered this prayer with the final prophet.

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#159965 Jan 24, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus, God, now teaches His people through His Mystical Body of the Catholic Church. His teachings can now be found in the Cathecism of the Catholic Church. The Cathecism of the Catholic Church is of divine origin since it has the approval of God's Church. The pope and Magisterium of the Catholic Church have the same authority that the prophets of Israel had and the disciples of Jesus had.
And where in the Cathecism, and WHY does it say you should follow one law over another law?

Lets look at thou shalt not kill vs thou shall not eat shellfish or desecrate the Sabbath. What is the reasoning behind acceptance of one but not the other?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#159966 Jan 24, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus, God, now teaches His people through His Mystical Body of the Catholic Church. His teachings can now be found in the Cathecism of the Catholic Church. The Cathecism of the Catholic Church is of divine origin since it has the approval of God's Church. The pope and Magisterium of the Catholic Church have the same authority that the prophets of Israel had and the disciples of Jesus had.
rabbee: well many things with a divine origin, don't end up that way. and you can't say that G-D, was not telling them anything. it's more a matter, of their not really listinening. becarefull who you put up on a pedistal, just because they say so.

it appears to me, that more of their doctrine. is more from them, than it is with The Actual Guy/Gal with the faked name.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#159967 Jan 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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And where in the Cathecism, and WHY does it say you should follow one law over another law?
Lets look at thou shalt not kill vs thou shall not eat shellfish or desecrate the Sabbath. What is the reasoning behind acceptance of one but not the other?
rabbee: well frijoles, you do know what sunday is don't you. it's Parashas Noach Day from always the pre-post-deluvianites. ask and you, shall recieve.

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#159968 Jan 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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As I stated before - as a Jew I can (or I can look up) the reason, or the thought process, for which law to apply when and why. But I am asking for the same from the other religionist and I do not get an answer.
There are few reasons why they can follow some and reject others. First of all they aren't Jews, so they are not forced to follow any of the laws. This implies that they may follow it or not. Pick some and reject others. In any case they are never wrong with it.

Second, when Christianity came to be among the gentiles, a problem arose, whether or not they have to follow the laws. Paul, one of the most important figures of Christianity, told them they don't need to.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#159969 Jan 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
And where in the Cathecism, and WHY does it say you should follow one law over another law?
Lets look at thou shalt not kill vs thou shall not eat shellfish or desecrate the Sabbath. What is the reasoning behind acceptance of one but not the other?
Sacred Tradition. Jesus made all foods clean as recorded in the Holy Bible. The disciples of Jesus gathered together on the first day of the week to celebrated the Lord's day as a community, as recorded in the Holy Bible. The Law of Love would not allow killing another human being but it would allow the eating of shellfish.
John

Brisbane, Australia

#159970 Jan 24, 2013
bmz wrote:
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To us, all gospels are absurd. We find GOB better than the other junk and stuff of the New Testament.
Yes, anything except the gibbering of the butchering paedophile false prophet mo is absurd to the muztards.
To the rest of humanity the ranting of a perverted dictator talking to an invisible angel who's behaviour indicated nothing but evil is absurd.
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#159971 Jan 24, 2013
S-Azhar wrote:
Moses himself claimed that the final prophet will not be of the Jewish nation.
Really? Prove it.
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#159972 Jan 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Covenant
The Jewish view of the mere wording "new covenant" is no more than a renewed national commitment to abide by God's laws. In this view, the word new does not refer to a new commitment that replaces a previous one, but rather to an additional and greater level of commitment.[20]
Because Jews view the Mosaic covenant as applying only to Jews and any New Covenant merely a strengthening of the already existing one, Jews do not see this phrase as relevant in any way to non-Jews. For non-Jews, Judaism advocates the pre-Sinaitic Seven Laws of Noah. "Unlike Christianity, Judaism does not deny salvation to those outside of its fold, for, according to Jewish law, all non-Jews who observe the Noahide laws will participate in salvation and in the rewards of the world to come".[21]
In his 1962 work The Prophets Abraham Joshua Heschel points out that prophecy is not the only instrument of God to change the hearts of Israel, to know that he is God. He tells how the prophet Jeremiah complains that Israel is circumcised in body but "uncircumcised in heart" (9:26), that Jeremiah says "wash your heart from wickedness" (4:14). Heschel analyses that, while the prophet can only give Israel a new word, it is God himself who will give man a new heart: The "new covenant" will accomplish the complete transformation of every individual.[22]
The curious thing is why God would establish a FIRST covenant with Israel knowing full well that it wouldn't be sufficient. Was it to prove to the Jews that outward observances of dietary prohibitions, for example, accomplished nothing in terms of transformation (into what, exactly)? Meanwhile, the non-Jews of the world get off easy! They only have to observe the Noahide Laws to get the goodies in "the world to come," whatever that means, like resurrection or something akin to it.

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