Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 254819 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#159641 Jan 22, 2013
Buford wrote:
CORRECTION:
You weren't paying attention. Impotent Al charged that the "non-gen" books were concerned ONLY with "non-gens," which is why I posted Isaiah 49:6, not that it matters to Impotent Al, because he knows for a FACT that the "NON-GENS" have corrupted their texts to give themselves some kind of salvation supremacy over the world, and that the One True God of Mohammad wouldn't have "revealed" anything like Isaiah 49:6 through any LEGITIMATE prophet. THIS is why Impotent Al REWROTE Isaiah 49:6 and atrtributed it to "REAL GOD."
As to the charge of corruption, produce the original that was corrupted, or withdraw the charge.
Hey cluless fool...
I have already produced the NON-GEN verses according to NON-GEN and your erroreous OT version!

Then I asked you to come up with a credible GENTILE Messenger from God that you respect and follow?
Go for it...
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#159642 Jan 22, 2013
Buford wrote:
CORRECTION:
You weren't paying attention. Impotent Al charged that the "non-gen" books were concerned ONLY with "non-gens," which is why I posted Isaiah 49:6, not that it matters to Impotent Al, because he knows for a FACT that the "NON-GENS" have corrupted their texts to give themselves some kind of salvation supremacy over the world, and that the One True God of Mohammad wouldn't have "revealed" anything like Isaiah 49:6 through any LEGITIMATE prophet. THIS is why Impotent Al REWROTE Isaiah 49:6 and atrtributed it to "REAL GOD."
As to the charge of corruption, produce the original that was corrupted, or withdraw the charge.
sticking to your low level...here is a bit from NON-GENS about OT corruption!!

Can you give a reason why Jews say Isaiah 9:6 does not refer to Jesus?

Answer: Christian theologians argue that the name "A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the ruler of peace" refers to Jesus, who they ALLEGE combined human and divine qualities. They MISTAKENLY believe that such a name can only be applied to God Himself. Moreover, THE CHRISTIANS INCORRECTLY TRANSLATE THE VERBS IN VERSE 5 IN THE FUTURE TENSE, instead of the past, as the Hebrew original reads. Thus, the Christians render verse 5 as: "For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on his shoulders; and his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."

While admitting that "wonderful counselor" and "ruler of peace" can be applied to a man, Christian theologians argue that the phrases "mighty God" and "everlasting Father" cannot be incorporated as part of a man's name. Thus, they contend that Isaiah teaches that the Messiah has to be not only a man, but God as well.

That THIS ENTIRE REASONING IS INCORRECT may be seen from the name Elihu, "My God is He," which refers to an ordinary human being (Job 32:1, 1 Samuel 1:l, 1 Chronicles 12:21, 26:7, 27:18).

A similar CHRISTIAN MISUNDERSTANDING OF SCRIPTURE may be seen in their claims revolving around the name Immanuel, "God is with us." The simple fact is that it is quite common in the Bible for human beings to be given names that have the purpose of declaring or reflecting a particular attribute of God, e.g., Eliab, Eliada, Elzaphan, Eliakim, Elisha, Eleazar, Tavel, Gedaliah.

The fact remains that JESUS DID NOT literally or figuratively FULFILL ANY OF ISAIAH'S WORDS. A wonderful counselor does not advise his followers that if they have faith they can be agents of destruction (Matthew 21:19-21; Mark 11:14, 20-23). A mighty God does not take orders from anyone (Luke2:51, Hebrews 5:8), for no one is greater than he is (Matthew 12:31-32; John 5:30, 14:28).

Moreover, he does not ask or need to be saved by anyone (Matthew 26:39, Luke 22:42), for he cannot die by any means (Matthew 27:50, Mark 15:37, Luke 23:46, John 19:30). He who is called the Son of God the Father (John 1:18, 3:16) cannot himself be called everlasting Father. One cannot play simultaneously the role of the son and the Father; it is an obvious self-contradiction. He who advocates family strife (Matthew 10:34-35, Luke 12:49-53) and killing enemies (Luke 19:27) cannot be called a ruler of peace.

DEAL WITH IT FOOL.....
TALK TO NON-GENS....
TELL THEM EITHER YOUR BOOKS ARE EDITED OR THEIRS ARE!!!!

GOOD RIDDANCE....
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#159643 Jan 22, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus rose from the dead and has power over death. He ascended into Heaven from where He shall come to judge the living and the dead. Jesus, the Lord Almighty God, is the Gate you must enter through to enter Heaven; there is no other gate.
Of course he did...and banged SEVEN demons off Mary Magda to the cries of oh my god..oh my god..oh my god!!

Question:

If you god carried out this PERFECT suicide FULFILLING ALL NON-GEN PROPHECIES to save GENTILES from sins, what is the NEED to bang SEVEN demons off Mary Magda of all people?

By then ALL the DEMONS should have FLED, ALL SINS wiped off..and ALL believers ESPECIALLY MARY Magda must be CLEAN and DEMON FREE!!

I think they were doing what a naked gardener and his girl friend would do on a hot summers day...have cucumber sandwiches, honey glazed treats, lashings of ginger beer and hot cuppa Tea!!!

Yeah...right!
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#159644 Jan 22, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
sticking to your low level...here is a bit from NON-GENS about OT corruption!!
Can you give a reason why Jews say Isaiah 9:6 does not refer to Jesus?
Answer: Christian theologians argue that the name "A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the ruler of peace" refers to Jesus, who they ALLEGE combined human and divine qualities. They MISTAKENLY believe that such a name can only be applied to God Himself. Moreover, THE CHRISTIANS INCORRECTLY TRANSLATE THE VERBS IN VERSE 5 IN THE FUTURE TENSE, instead of the past, as the Hebrew original reads. Thus, the Christians render verse 5 as: "For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on his shoulders; and his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."
While admitting that "wonderful counselor" and "ruler of peace" can be applied to a man, Christian theologians argue that the phrases "mighty God" and "everlasting Father" cannot be incorporated as part of a man's name. Thus, they contend that Isaiah teaches that the Messiah has to be not only a man, but God as well.
That THIS ENTIRE REASONING IS INCORRECT may be seen from the name Elihu, "My God is He," which refers to an ordinary human being (Job 32:1, 1 Samuel 1:l, 1 Chronicles 12:21, 26:7, 27:18).
A similar CHRISTIAN MISUNDERSTANDING OF SCRIPTURE may be seen in their claims revolving around the name Immanuel, "God is with us." The simple fact is that it is quite common in the Bible for human beings to be given names that have the purpose of declaring or reflecting a particular attribute of God, e.g., Eliab, Eliada, Elzaphan, Eliakim, Elisha, Eleazar, Tavel, Gedaliah.
The fact remains that JESUS DID NOT literally or figuratively FULFILL ANY OF ISAIAH'S WORDS. A wonderful counselor does not advise his followers that if they have faith they can be agents of destruction (Matthew 21:19-21; Mark 11:14, 20-23). A mighty God does not take orders from anyone (Luke2:51, Hebrews 5:8), for no one is greater than he is (Matthew 12:31-32; John 5:30, 14:28).
Moreover, he does not ask or need to be saved by anyone (Matthew 26:39, Luke 22:42), for he cannot die by any means (Matthew 27:50, Mark 15:37, Luke 23:46, John 19:30). He who is called the Son of God the Father (John 1:18, 3:16) cannot himself be called everlasting Father. One cannot play simultaneously the role of the son and the Father; it is an obvious self-contradiction. He who advocates family strife (Matthew 10:34-35, Luke 12:49-53) and killing enemies (Luke 19:27) cannot be called a ruler of peace.
DEAL WITH IT FOOL.....
TALK TO NON-GENS....
TELL THEM EITHER YOUR BOOKS ARE EDITED OR THEIRS ARE!!!!
GOOD RIDDANCE....
islam can not stand on its own merit, it can only stand if the Holy Bible is called corrupt; that is why muslims spend so much time trying to prove the Holy Bible corrupt. The Old Testament and New Testament form a single seamless garment; the New flowing freely from the Old. islam is not part of salvation history.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#159645 Jan 22, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
The Holy Bible from beginning to end speak of Jesus. The Jews did not recognize Jesus when He came and neither do you. Jesus is the fulfillment of the Law and the Prophets. There are many scholarly works in Christology which will help you understand the Holy Bible.
lol....you can read stuff written in invisible ink?
Clever boy!!
I was also wondering why others coul not see this....
1. In the beginning of JESUS' creation of the heavens and the earth.
&#1488;. &#1489;&#1468;&#14 56;&#1512;&#1461;& #1488;&#1513;&#1473; &#1460;&#1497;&#15 14; &#1489;&#1468;&#14 64;&#1512;&#1464;& #1488; &#1488;&#1457;&#15 00;&#1465;&#1492;& #1460;&#1497;&#1501; &#1488;&#1461;&#15 14; &#1492;&#1463;&#15 13;&#1468;&#1473;& #1464;&#1502;&#1463; &#1497;&#1460;&#15 01; &#1493;&#1456;&#14 88;&#1461;&#1514; &#1492;&#1464;&#14 88;&#1464;&#1512;& #1462;&#1509;:

2. Now the earth was astonishingly empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of JESUS was hovering over the face of the water.

3. And JESUS said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

4. And JESUS saw the light that it was good, and JESUS separated between the light and between the darkness.

5. And JESUS called the light day, and the darkness He called night, and it was evening and it was morning, one day.

6. And JESUS said, "Let there be an expanse in the midst of the water, and let it be a separation between water and water."

7. And JESUS made the expanse and it separated between the water that was below the expanse and the water that was above the expanse, and it was so.

8. And JESUS called the expanse Heaven, and it was evening, and it was morning, a second day.

9. And JESUS said, "Let the water that is beneath the heavens gather into one place, and let the dry land appear," and it was so.

10. And JESUS called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas, and JESUS saw that it was good.

11. And JESUS said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation, seed yielding herbs and fruit trees producing fruit according to its kind in which its seed is found, on the earth," and it was so.

12. And the earth gave forth vegetation, seed yielding herbs according to its kind, and trees producing fruit, in which its seed is found, according to its kind, and JESUS saw that it was good.

ALL SORTED!!! THIS IS THE WAY OT SHOULD BE WRITTEN!!
THANKS PAUL.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#159646 Jan 22, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
islam can not stand on its own merit, it can only stand if the Holy Bible is called corrupt; that is why muslims spend so much time trying to prove the Holy Bible corrupt. The Old Testament and New Testament form a single seamless garment; the New flowing freely from the Old. islam is not part of salvation history.
This HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.. I am an EX Christian.

Now deal with this from NON-GENS the EDITORS/OWNERS of your books that you STOLE!!!

This is from NON-GENS about OT corruption!!

Can you give a reason why Jews say Isaiah 9:6 does not refer to Jesus?
Answer: Christian theologians argue that the name "A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the ruler of peace" refers to Jesus, who they ALLEGE combined human and divine qualities. They MISTAKENLY believe that such a name can only be applied to God Himself. Moreover, THE CHRISTIANS INCORRECTLY TRANSLATE THE VERBS IN VERSE 5 IN THE FUTURE TENSE, instead of the past, as the Hebrew original reads. Thus, the Christians render verse 5 as: "For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on his shoulders; and his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."
While admitting that "wonderful counselor" and "ruler of peace" can be applied to a man, Christian theologians argue that the phrases "mighty God" and "everlasting Father" cannot be incorporated as part of a man's name. Thus, they contend that Isaiah teaches that the Messiah has to be not only a man, but God as well.
That THIS ENTIRE REASONING IS INCORRECT may be seen from the name Elihu, "My God is He," which refers to an ordinary human being (Job 32:1, 1 Samuel 1:l, 1 Chronicles 12:21, 26:7, 27:18).
A similar CHRISTIAN MISUNDERSTANDING OF SCRIPTURE may be seen in their claims revolving around the name Immanuel, "God is with us." The simple fact is that it is quite common in the Bible for human beings to be given names that have the purpose of declaring or reflecting a particular attribute of God, e.g., Eliab, Eliada, Elzaphan, Eliakim, Elisha, Eleazar, Tavel, Gedaliah.
The fact remains that JESUS DID NOT literally or figuratively FULFILL ANY OF ISAIAH'S WORDS. A wonderful counselor does not advise his followers that if they have faith they can be agents of destruction (Matthew 21:19-21; Mark 11:14, 20-23). A mighty God does not take orders from anyone (Luke2:51, Hebrews 5:8), for no one is greater than he is (Matthew 12:31-32; John 5:30, 14:28).
Moreover, he does not ask or need to be saved by anyone (Matthew 26:39, Luke 22:42), for he cannot die by any means (Matthew 27:50, Mark 15:37, Luke 23:46, John 19:30). He who is called the Son of God the Father (John 1:18, 3:16) cannot himself be called everlasting Father. One cannot play simultaneously the role of the son and the Father; it is an obvious self-contradiction. He who advocates family strife (Matthew 10:34-35, Luke 12:49-53) and killing enemies (Luke 19:27) cannot be called a ruler of peace.

DEAL WITH IT .....TALK TO NON-GENS....
TELL THEM EITHER YOUR BOOKS ARE EDITED OR THEIRS ARE!!!!
GOOD LUCK....

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#159647 Jan 22, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow...are you this thick?
When you stop speaking English I shall stop speaking foreign languages.
Ask all the Topix posters here to stop speaking Greek, Latin, and other Euro languages eh?
That dumps "Jesus" and "Christ" straight away!
Also good old buttboy pulled out "Gentile" from your edited books!
So tell HIM to stop speaking Latin Greek of even gibberish!!
If ALL non-gentiles stop using the word Gentile, we shall stop calling them Non-Gentiles.
Gentiles make up 99.5% of human race.
They DESERVE their OWN Messengers from GOD.
If your "god" cannot oblige we will have to call him a tribal racist bigoted sexist Anti-Gentile fake mini slave god of non-gentiles!!
Thank you..
Its one thing to correspond in English. Its another thing to import an English concept and use it to "interpret" the bible.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#159648 Jan 22, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
islam can not stand on its own merit, it can only stand if the Holy Bible is called corrupt; that is why muslims spend so much time trying to prove the Holy Bible corrupt. The Old Testament and New Testament form a single seamless garment; the New flowing freely from the Old. islam is not part of salvation history.
AND.. thanks to SUPPORT from NON-GENS the claim that your books are edited/corrected is still VALID!!!
Two religions say you have "slightly" tampered with the originals!!!
Dealing with it, eh?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#159649 Jan 22, 2013
uhuh wrote:
the "prayer" every morning: Bless HaShem who did not make me a goy/ akum/ nochri
a daily reminder
LOL!!!!!!!!!

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#159650 Jan 22, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
OH dear ...the spin doctor lacks a sense of humour!! What is new?
In our part of the jungle called England...when somebody says good morning and if we wanna take the mick...we might say..and a good day to you...and its good night from us/him...or anything to that effect!!
More importantly...it was "evening/night" there...so I responded with a double entendre..!
wow.....in case you were wondering i did double check those words as you put in "English" against Hebrew!
no wonder why we cant understand you most of the time
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#159651 Jan 22, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. If you want to see God and enter Heaven you must do it through Jesus.
motor "way" after "spirits" take you over so you can drive faster and die like your master?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#159652 Jan 22, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Thankfully that word is not connected to "genitals"!!!
I would not have put it past the arrogant non-gentiles, who insult Gentiles as DOGS and PIGS!!
You wanna challenge me on that too?
If they did....then we could have called them "Non-Genitals"
Mercy is upon all...
I dont have to challenge you. You speak for yourself. A psychotic self.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#159653 Jan 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
no wonder why we cant understand you most of the time
"we" dear spin doctor?
You can't understand because you speak HEBREW!
You must stick to your own language.
and a good day to you sir, while it is morning there!

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#159654 Jan 22, 2013
Stop deny your problems. The first step to do is to admit you have problems.
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
You display classic symptoms of a deranged psychotic because you are not even sure who you are or what you believe in.
You respond and react weirdly and in an extreme fashion, in the absence of an external stimulus and that is a classic sign/symptom of psychosis.
Thanks to introduce yourself. Have you taken any pill until today?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#159655 Jan 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Its one thing to correspond in English. Its another thing to import an English concept and use it to "interpret" the bible.
May I disagree with you spin doctor...?

You are here spinning yarns about Hebrew language while brainwashing folks with Non-Gentile traditions, customs, delusionsand beliefs buried in Hebrew language!

Therefore...I had to ask you to stop speaking English and use your spin language.

If you tell me to stop speaking Greek Latin other Euro languages..it is fair that you ask all the Topix posters here to stop speaking Greek, Latin, and other Euro languages.

That dumps "Jesus" and "Christ" straight away!

Also good old buttboy pulled out "Gentile" from your edited books!

So tell HIM to stop speaking Latin Greek or even gibberish and that he is maing things up!!

If ALL non-gentiles stop using the word Gentile, we shall stop calling them Non-Gentiles.

Gentiles make up 99.5% of human race.
They DESERVE their OWN Messengers from GOD.

Can you think of a GENTILE Messenger from God whom you respect and follow?

If your "god" cannot oblige us with our OWN GENTILE Messenger we will have to call him a tribal racist bigoted sexist Anti-Gentile fake mini slave god of non-gentiles!!

Thank you..
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#159656 Jan 22, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
Stop deny your problems. The first step to do is to admit you have problems.
<quoted text>
Thanks to introduce yourself. Have you taken any pill until today?
hello deluded fool...stop murdering my language.
Did you take "the pill" this morning?
Good!....You won't get pregnant.
The world will be spared of Junior "stefano the deranged"!!
(please don't tell me you are a man!)
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#159657 Jan 22, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
Stop deny your problems. The first step to do is to admit you have problems.
<quoted text>
Thanks to introduce yourself. Have you taken any pill until today?
Four sentences - or DEATH SENTENCES?
Hello English Language...‘You shall be taken to the place from whence you came, and thence to a place of lawful execution, and there you shall be hanged by the neck until you be dead, and afterwards your body shall be buried in a common grave within the precincts of the prison wherein you were last confined before your execution; and may the Lord have mercy on your soul’.
The hangman is... SC the deranged!
lol...
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#159658 Jan 22, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
lol....you can read stuff written in invisible ink?
Clever boy!!
I was also wondering why others coul not see this....
1. In the beginning of JESUS' creation of the heavens and the earth.
&#1488;. &#1489;&#1468;&#14 56;&#1512;&#1461;& #1488;&#1513;&#1473; &#1460;&#1497;&#15 14; &#1489;&#1468;&#14 64;&#1512;&#1464;& #1488; &#1488;&#1457;&#15 00;&#1465;&#1492;& #1460;&#1497;&#1501; &#1488;&#1461;&#15 14; &#1492;&#1463;&#15 13;&#1468;&#1473;& #1464;&#1502;&#1463; &#1497;&#1460;&#15 01; &#1493;&#1456;&#14 88;&#1461;&#1514; &#1492;&#1464;&#14 88;&#1464;&#1512;& #1462;&#1509;:
2. Now the earth was astonishingly empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of JESUS was hovering over the face of the water.
3. And JESUS said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
4. And JESUS saw the light that it was good, and JESUS separated between the light and between the darkness.
5. And JESUS called the light day, and the darkness He called night, and it was evening and it was morning, one day.
6. And JESUS said, "Let there be an expanse in the midst of the water, and let it be a separation between water and water."
7. And JESUS made the expanse and it separated between the water that was below the expanse and the water that was above the expanse, and it was so.
8. And JESUS called the expanse Heaven, and it was evening, and it was morning, a second day.
9. And JESUS said, "Let the water that is beneath the heavens gather into one place, and let the dry land appear," and it was so.
10. And JESUS called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas, and JESUS saw that it was good.
11. And JESUS said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation, seed yielding herbs and fruit trees producing fruit according to its kind in which its seed is found, on the earth," and it was so.
12. And the earth gave forth vegetation, seed yielding herbs according to its kind, and trees producing fruit, in which its seed is found, according to its kind, and JESUS saw that it was good.
ALL SORTED!!! THIS IS THE WAY OT SHOULD BE WRITTEN!!
THANKS PAUL.
Yes, you can subsitute the Name of Jesus for God; they are the same.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#159659 Jan 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I dont have to challenge you. You speak for yourself. A psychotic self.
Good gor you non-gentile.
Dogs, PIGS and now Psychotics!
Do you know of ANY GENTILE Messengers from God who command your love, respect and support?
NO?
Spin Doc runs!
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#159660 Jan 22, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
This HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.. I am an EX Christian.
Now deal with this from NON-GENS the EDITORS/OWNERS of your books that you STOLE!!!
This is from NON-GENS about OT corruption!!
Can you give a reason why Jews say Isaiah 9:6 does not refer to Jesus?
Answer: Christian theologians argue that the name "A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the ruler of peace" refers to Jesus, who they ALLEGE combined human and divine qualities. They MISTAKENLY believe that such a name can only be applied to God Himself. Moreover, THE CHRISTIANS INCORRECTLY TRANSLATE THE VERBS IN VERSE 5 IN THE FUTURE TENSE, instead of the past, as the Hebrew original reads. Thus, the Christians render verse 5 as: "For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on his shoulders; and his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."
While admitting that "wonderful counselor" and "ruler of peace" can be applied to a man, Christian theologians argue that the phrases "mighty God" and "everlasting Father" cannot be incorporated as part of a man's name. Thus, they contend that Isaiah teaches that the Messiah has to be not only a man, but God as well.
That THIS ENTIRE REASONING IS INCORRECT may be seen from the name Elihu, "My God is He," which refers to an ordinary human being (Job 32:1, 1 Samuel 1:l, 1 Chronicles 12:21, 26:7, 27:18).
A similar CHRISTIAN MISUNDERSTANDING OF SCRIPTURE may be seen in their claims revolving around the name Immanuel, "God is with us." The simple fact is that it is quite common in the Bible for human beings to be given names that have the purpose of declaring or reflecting a particular attribute of God, e.g., Eliab, Eliada, Elzaphan, Eliakim, Elisha, Eleazar, Tavel, Gedaliah.
The fact remains that JESUS DID NOT literally or figuratively FULFILL ANY OF ISAIAH'S WORDS. A wonderful counselor does not advise his followers that if they have faith they can be agents of destruction (Matthew 21:19-21; Mark 11:14, 20-23). A mighty God does not take orders from anyone (Luke2:51, Hebrews 5:8), for no one is greater than he is (Matthew 12:31-32; John 5:30, 14:28).
Moreover, he does not ask or need to be saved by anyone (Matthew 26:39, Luke 22:42), for he cannot die by any means (Matthew 27:50, Mark 15:37, Luke 23:46, John 19:30). He who is called the Son of God the Father (John 1:18, 3:16) cannot himself be called everlasting Father. One cannot play simultaneously the role of the son and the Father; it is an obvious self-contradiction. He who advocates family strife (Matthew 10:34-35, Luke 12:49-53) and killing enemies (Luke 19:27) cannot be called a ruler of peace.
DEAL WITH IT .....TALK TO NON-GENS....
TELL THEM EITHER YOUR BOOKS ARE EDITED OR THEIRS ARE!!!!
GOOD LUCK....
See if you can get islam to stand on its own merit.

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