Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256401 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#158767 Jan 15, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
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Where in the Koran does it say that women will get virgin boys? There is no mention of heavenly delights for women in paradise.
You're right. Qur'aan does not say that.

Only hardcore polemicists, Christian fanatics, sex maniacs, perverts and bloody ignorant fools say that.

Salaams, Mahmood

bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#158768 Jan 15, 2013
Buford wrote:
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False.
It is true. It is quite obvious from the language that the reported Hadith belongs to Jesus.

John agrees with that. There are many things, which have not been reported in the four gospels.

Jesus wanted to make a man out of Mary. That was not reported by the four but others did.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#158769 Jan 16, 2013
SC wrote:
I don't recall I made any query to you, aside that of deep spiritual matters that in European languages cannot be translated properly from Arabic. I was talking with bmz, you jumped in and talked to me, and I answer you to your posts

The problem that you don't want understand is that we share a similar position about it, while bmz is trying to elevate Arabic over other European languages.

According to you, it makes more sense to discuss with someone who has a similar opinion of yours or with someone who has a different opinion?
Ans.

As I told you there is no Per See superiority of one language over another. Every language has some specialties which is not available in others.

Western Languages lack the ability to properly convey the deep spiritual matters, and that could be one reason that very little revelation from God came in these languages (another reason could be that these languages were not "properly developed" when the Last and Final revelation came from God 1400 years ago!! Allah Knows Best).

It would cause nothing but bitterness, if we keep on showing one language' "superiority" over other'. That is why I take a very unbiased approach in this regard.

The same would be case if we started discussing whole clothes and whose diets and whose eating and drinking habits are superior to others? These are mainly "subjective opinions" and one' views cannot be "enforced" or others.

That is why we should respect and honor every one' culture and dress and habitsÂ…till they fall into that category which is in contradiction with Islamic boundaries.

That is my view and Allah Knows Best. I do not want to be in collision path but co-existence path.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#158771 Jan 16, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Finally,men having sex with other men whether or not rape is involved is an ABOMINATION to God. Just google it and you shall find God's commandment on the matter.
I asked you this a few times already and I will ask you again

Where in the Genesis narrative regarding Sodom does it say that sex with men is an abomination?

Thats right. It doesnt.

There is a much stronger argument for hospitality - and even that is NOT singled out with that particular choice of language that you have BORROWED from another, later, section of bible.

Lets stay focused on the story.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#158772 Jan 16, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Their source of pleasure i.e. shiT reflects their minds and indeed actions are merely a reflection of the mind.
from the guy who never misses an opportunity to slide in there with a sexual innuendo

Rich.
truth

Lesmurdie, Australia

#158773 Jan 16, 2013
People stop if they can't understood your language.
why you think others is not good..only you and your god other people not call god Alla..no

Many tribe as well many language calling God as Creator deference name its look like that..meaning..Is meaning some? yes yes yes meaning is some God is always God.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#158775 Jan 16, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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from the guy who never misses an opportunity to slide in there with a sexual innuendo
Rich.
My Bad - I just reread my comment. oops on the "slide". Unintended.
uhuh

Jumilla, Spain

#158776 Jan 16, 2013
"Bring the men out let us know them" (Gen 19:5)

Rashi: "know them" by mishkav zachar (lying with man), as in verse 8 "I have two daughters who have not known men"

the other great tafsirs, Genesis Rabbah and Targum Yonathan, also interpret "know them" here the same way
uhuh

Jumilla, Spain

#158777 Jan 16, 2013
Heb. "kadesh" meaning a male prostitute (e.g. in Deut 23:17) is translated to "porneuon" in LXX, and "sodomite" in KJV
Frijoles wrote:
I see nothing wrong with sodomites
uhuh

Jumilla, Spain

#158778 Jan 16, 2013
to muslims, Lot was God's messenger sent to warn the people of Sodom (e.g. Quran 54:36)

to christians, Lot was a righteous man with a righteous soul (2Peter 2:7)

to the jewish sages, "Lot chose to settle at Sodom so that he might behave as they did. This wicked man was perverted with lust" (Tanhuma), "Lot lusted after his own daughter" (Gen Rabbah), He, like the serpent, is yetzer ha-Ra and is called Lot, meaning "cursed" in Aramaic (Zohar)
a reflection of how their minds work

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#158779 Jan 16, 2013
uhuh wrote:
"Bring the men out let us know them" (Gen 19:5)
Rashi: "know them" by mishkav zachar (lying with man), as in verse 8 "I have two daughters who have not known men"
the other great tafsirs, Genesis Rabbah and Targum Yonathan, also interpret "know them" here the same way
you are on a repeat cycle here. I already said, a few times, there is no doubt there was funny business involved.

The question I just posed to Huggy is whether this is an abomination, BASED upon the that particular portion of the text alone - i.e. going to leviticus is out of bounds.

There was other funny business involved as well - rape, and inhospitality. Any of those could be the sin that provoked Mr Fire and Brimstone, and my reading of the primary text is that the other two funny businesses are more likely the culprits, IMO

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#158780 Jan 16, 2013
uhuh wrote:
to muslims, Lot was God's messenger sent to warn the people of Sodom (e.g. Quran 54:36)
to christians, Lot was a righteous man with a righteous soul (2Peter 2:7)
to the jewish sages, "Lot chose to settle at Sodom so that he might behave as they did. This wicked man was perverted with lust" (Tanhuma), "Lot lusted after his own daughter" (Gen Rabbah), He, like the serpent, is yetzer ha-Ra and is called Lot, meaning "cursed" in Aramaic (Zohar)
a reflection of how their minds work
Out of context. A few passages down LOT has SEX with his daughters. Of COURSE the commentators are going to give him a critical rap. Be real.

I dotn speak for the Christian scriptures.

More a reflection of hor YOUR MIND works.

Not impressive.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#158781 Jan 16, 2013
uhuh wrote:
Heb. "kadesh" meaning a male prostitute (e.g. in Deut 23:17) is translated to "porneuon" in LXX, and "sodomite" in KJV
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still see nothing wrong with sodomites. Nothing linking the word linguistically to the "abomination" you are concerned about.

we can argue this to you are blue in the breat, but that isnt going to change the Hebrew.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#158784 Jan 16, 2013
bmz wrote:
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You're right. Qur'aan does not say that.
Only hardcore polemicists, Christian fanatics, sex maniacs, perverts and bloody ignorant fools say that.
Salaams, Mahmood
lol...the ones who get to heaven...get whatever they wish for...and not many women wish for virgin boys!
Heaven also works on the principal of supply and demand...
The demand is for virgin girls!!
Oh well...this is the lighter side of Da'wah?
Salaams...
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#158785 Jan 16, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I asked you this a few times already and I will ask you again
Where in the Genesis narrative regarding Sodom does it say that sex with men is an abomination?
Thats right. It doesnt.
There is a much stronger argument for hospitality - and even that is NOT singled out with that particular choice of language that you have BORROWED from another, later, section of bible.
Lets stay focused on the story.
Thank you for promoting the edited/corrected non-gentile books written by tribal sexist racist bigoted anti gentile men...who according to you ALSO vote with their asses in favour of homosexuality...
LOL...
What God made unlawful is lawful and what God made lawful is unlawful, eh.....
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#158786 Jan 16, 2013
The non-gentile books are full of man made tales promoted as words from God.
There is a movement to surgically remove the non gentile books from the Gentile pagan books that can stand on their own thanks to St. Paul.
The Gentiles don't need a whole host of non-gentile rhetoric just to use a few verses to justify the case of the Gentile Messiah.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#158787 Jan 16, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
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Where in the Koran does it say that women will get virgin boys? There is no mention of heavenly delights for women in paradise.
Aww....they are having fun because they ARE the virgins in heaven you blissfully ignorant "brother"!!!
Ask yourself this...
Take a sample of 100 men and 100 women...
What percentage from each sex wants a virgin from the opposite sex?
lol.......
men wish for inexperience and women want experience...
uhuh

Jumilla, Spain

#158788 Jan 16, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
A few passages down, LOT had SEX with his daughters. OF COURSE the commentators are going to give him a critical rap. Be real.
Not impressive.
the thing is, not all Jewish sources vilify him (but OF COURSE you don't know that lol),

Lot was "the righteous man delivered from the fire which fell down upon the five cities" (Wisdom of Solomon 10:6)
"Lot accompanied our patriarch Abram and learned from his good deeds" (Pirke R.Eliezer)
"Lot was a wholly righteous man" (Alphabet of Sirach)

the same story of drunken Lot raped by his daughters were also read by christians, yet they still think of him as righteous ...because they do not have the mindset of: good is evil, evil is good
uhuh

Jumilla, Spain

#158789 Jan 16, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
I already said, a few times, there is no doubt there was funny business involved. The question is whether this is an abomination, BASED upon the that particular portion of the text alone - i.e. going to Leviticus is out of bounds.
There was other funny business involved as well - rape, and inhospitality. Any of those could be the sin, IMO.
Still see nothing wrong with sodomites. Nothing linking the word linguistically to the "abomination" you are concerned about.
i am not concerned about the word "abomination" or other words at all
i am concerned about someone who says rape and mishkav zachar (lying with man) are "funny business"
Frijoles wrote:
I still see nothing wrong with sodomites
going to Leviticus is out of bounds IMO
that is a reflection of how your mind works lol

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#158790 Jan 16, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Thank you for promoting the edited/corrected non-gentile books written by tribal sexist racist bigoted anti gentile men...who according to you ALSO vote with their asses in favour of homosexuality...
LOL...
What God made unlawful is lawful and what God made lawful is unlawful, eh.....
all I ask if that people read the primary text.

simple, really - yet people are STILL argueing straw man arguments with me

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