Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Excerpts from the Gospel of Barnabas, Part-28A

Chapter 60 : What is Paradise?

Hell is one, and is contrary to paradise, as winter is contrary to summer, and cold to heat. Therefore, he who would describe the misery of hell must have seen the paradise of God's delights. O place accursed by God's justice for the malediction of the faithless and reprobate, of which Job, the friend of God, said: There is no order there, but everlasting fear! And Isaiah the prophet, against the reprobate, says: Their flame shall not be quenched nor their worm die.

And David our father, weeping said: Then lightning and bolts and brimstone and great tempest shall rain upon them." O miserable sinners, how loathsome delicate meats, costly raiment, soft couches, and [the] concord of sweet song shall seem to them! How sick shall raging hunger, burning flames, scorching cinders, and cruel torments with bitter weeping make them!"

And then Jesus uttered a lamentable groan, saying: "Truly, it is better never to have been formed than to suffer such cruel torments, for imagine a man suffering torments in every part of his body, who has no one to show him compassion, but is mocked by everyone;
tell me, would not this be great pain?" The disciples answered: "The greatest."
Then Jesus said: "This is a delight [in comparison] to hell. For I tell you in truth, that if God should place in one balance all the pain which all men have suffered in this world and shall suffer till the Day of Judgment, and in the other [balance] one single hour of the pain of hell, the reprobates would without doubt choose the worldly tribulations, for the worldly [tribulations] come from the hand of man, but the others from the hand of devils, who are utterly without compassion.

O what cruel fire they shall give to miserable sinners! O what bitter cold, which yet shall not temper their flames! What gnashing of teeth and sobbing and weeping! For the Jordan has less water than the tears which shall flow from their eyes every moment. Their tongues shall curse all created things, with their. father and mother, and their Creator, who is blessed for ever."
Note: These real teachings of Jesus are missing in Gospels (MUQ)

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Please come back to planet earth and answer these thanks...
Do you believe that Jesus/yehoshooah) is Messiah?
Do you believe that Jesus/yehoshooah is God?
Do you believe that Jesus/yehoshooah is the only son of god?
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<quoted text>Islam limit the capabilities of Allah by denying his ability to have a Son.
It is disbelievers who say that Allah has bred or begotten a Son, or that God the Father has a Son who is also a God, and has a third being, the Holy Ghost who is also a part of God. Christians have a weird way of understanding God in that they believe God is is one, but at the same time ONE in THREE or THREE in ONE. I will give you a simple analogy: a THREE-IN-ONE Nescafe that is widely sold in the market nowadays. Scientifically, you can isolate the sugar, dairy creamer and coffee components mixed together in it. You cant say sugar is equal to dairy creamer, dairy creamer equal to coffee, and coffee equals sugar. It is absolutely wrong! Allah is one and ONLY. Allah has begotten no son, as this Christian understanding is tantamount to making Allah a homo sapien which procreate. And Allah is unlike anything in His vast universe of creations.... I have also read of a weak analogy being put forward in defense of Trinitarian God, namely, that God is like water... it exist in liquid form, frozen ice or as water vapor!!! The Quran says that Allah is unlike anything you can think of, because that would make Allah exist as his own creation-- water, ice, water vapor. Very weird. Do you get it?

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Buford wrote:
<quoted text>I took issue with Braindead before about Greek "not being a scriptural language," as he insists it isn't, because God made no revelations to the Greeks, he argues! This is part and parcel of his unteachableness and arrogance, and the reason why I often respond to him with the dismissive, "Thus saith the LORD!"
The Braindead Muslim Zealot and LORD of Singapore simply won't be taught!
It is the other way round. I have noticed and I am sure the silent majority of the international readers also must have noticed that when you are unable to answer and offer an explanation, you always write:

"Thus saith the LORD!"

And I must say that it is a defeatist attitude.

I will give you another example of how silly, absurd and unfit is the Greek language for scriptures.
Please read Mark 15:43-45 on the Biblos Interlinear Bible.

Joseph went to take Jesus and asked for his Soma. After getting a surprising shock that he had died SO FAST, Pilate gave him permission to take his Ptoma.

One can see how crude that language is. Can I have Soma? Yes, you can have Ptoma.

Of course, the Church's Greek is weird too. To her Soma and Ptoma are the same.

It would have sounded not so crude and absurd, if he had asked for Soma and Pilate had let him carry away his Soma.

It would also not have sounded so crude and absurd, if he had asked for Ptoma and Pilate had let him carry his Ptoma.

What say ye now, Buford?

Will it be the usual "Thus saith the LORD!"?

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Cole wrote:
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It is disbelievers who say that Allah has bred or begotten a Son, or that God the Father has a Son who is also a God, and has a third being, the Holy Ghost who is also a part of God. Christians have a weird way of understanding God in that they believe God is is one, but at the same time ONE in THREE or THREE in ONE.

I will give you a simple analogy: a THREE-IN-ONE Nescafe that is widely sold in the market nowadays.

Scientifically, you can isolate the sugar, dairy creamer and coffee components mixed together in it.

You cant say sugar is equal to dairy creamer, dairy creamer equal to coffee, and coffee equals sugar. It is absolutely wrong!

Allah is one and ONLY. Allah has begotten no son, as this Christian understanding is tantamount to making Allah a homo sapien which procreate.

And Allah is unlike anything in His vast universe of creations....

I have also read of a weak analogy being put forward in defense of Trinitarian God, namely, that God is like water... it exist in liquid form, frozen ice or as water vapor!!! The Quran says that Allah is unlike anything you can think of, because that would make Allah exist as his own creation-- water, ice, water vapor. Very weird. Do you get it?
Well said and well explained. Thank you.

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@ Buford and Colonna

The link to Biblos Interlinear Bible for Soma and Ptoma.
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Do you believe that Jesus/yehoshooah) is Messiah?
Do you believe that Jesus/yehoshooah is God?
Do you believe that Jesus/yehoshooah is the only son of god?
rabbee: sorry but i cannot accept your, lying false evalutation of me. since me and the woman G-D appoints, are the HaMosheeach according to TheTorah.

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It is the other way round. I have noticed and I am sure the silent majority of the international readers also must have noticed that when you are unable to answer and offer an explanation, you always write:
"Thus saith the LORD!"
And I must say that it is a defeatist attitude.
I will give you another example of how silly, absurd and unfit is the Greek language for scriptures.
Please read Mark 15:43-45 on the Biblos Interlinear Bible.
Joseph went to take Jesus and asked for his Soma. After getting a surprising shock that he had died SO FAST, Pilate gave him permission to take his Ptoma.
One can see how crude that language is. Can I have Soma? Yes, you can have Ptoma.
Of course, the Church's Greek is weird too. To her Soma and Ptoma are the same.
It would have sounded not so crude and absurd, if he had asked for Soma and Pilate had let him carry away his Soma.
It would also not have sounded so crude and absurd, if he had asked for Ptoma and Pilate had let him carry his Ptoma.
What say ye now, Buford?
Will it be the usual "Thus saith the LORD!"?
There is nothing wrong or absurd in Greek, and those verses prove this.

In Greek soma means living body, while ptoma means corpse. Let me take Mark's verses and substituite the Greek words with their English meanings.

Mark 15:43-45
"Joseph went to take Jesus and asked for his body. After getting a surprising shock that he had died SO FAST, Pilate gave him permission to take his corpse.

As evident by those verses Joseph went to ask for the Nazarene's body and not corpse, because he thought the man was still alive, but he was shocked to know Jesus had died fast. Thus in the last verse is used the word corpse, that means dead body.

There is not problem with Greek language at all.

You proved that your mind is POOR and UNFIT to understand any language.
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There is nothing wrong or absurd in Greek, and those verses prove this.
In Greek soma means living body, while ptoma means corpse. Let me take Mark's verses and substituite the Greek words with their English meanings.
Mark 15:43-45
"Joseph went to take Jesus and asked for his body. After getting a surprising shock that he had died SO FAST, Pilate gave him permission to take his corpse.
As evident by those verses Joseph went to ask for the Nazarene's body and not corpse, because he thought the man was still alive, but he was shocked to know Jesus had died fast. Thus in the last verse is used the word corpse, that means dead body.
There is not problem with Greek language at all.
You proved that your mind is POOR and UNFIT to understand any language.
You've pointed out the obvious to the LORD of Singapore, but it won't make any difference. He'll continue believeing that Greek is "unfit" as a scriptural language, while also believing that Mohammad's Arabic was crystal clear in its meanings, even though without diacritical marks the Arabic verses that were recorded by his scribes could have had all sorts of different meanings, meanings that were LATER assigned by "rightly guided" interpreters, a.k.a., prophets after Mohammad.
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It is the other way round. I have noticed and I am sure the silent majority of the international readers also must have noticed that when you are unable to answer and offer an explanation, you always write:
"Thus saith the LORD!"
And I must say that it is a defeatist attitude.
I will give you another example of how silly, absurd and unfit is the Greek language for scriptures.
Please read Mark 15:43-45 on the Biblos Interlinear Bible.
Joseph went to take Jesus and asked for his Soma. After getting a surprising shock that he had died SO FAST, Pilate gave him permission to take his Ptoma.
One can see how crude that language is. Can I have Soma? Yes, you can have Ptoma.
Of course, the Church's Greek is weird too. To her Soma and Ptoma are the same.
It would have sounded not so crude and absurd, if he had asked for Soma and Pilate had let him carry away his Soma.
It would also not have sounded so crude and absurd, if he had asked for Ptoma and Pilate had let him carry his Ptoma.
What say ye now, Buford?
Will it be the usual "Thus saith the LORD!"?
I say that you are an "ignorant fool."
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You are being dumb again. Second time for this post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism
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Plagiarism is defined in multiple ways in higher education institutions and universities. To name a few: Stanford sees plagiarism as “use, without giving reasonable and appropriate credit to or acknowledging the author or source, of another person's original work, whether such work is made up of code, formulas, ideas, language, research, strategies, writing or other form”; [36] Yale views plagiarism as “the use of another’s work, words, or ideas without attribution” which included “using a source’s language without quoting, using information from a source without attribution, and paraphrasing a source in a form that stays too close to the original”; [37] Princeton perceives plagiarism as the deliberate use of “someone else’s language, ideas, or other original (not common-knowledge) material without acknowledging its source”; [38] Oxford characterizes plagiarism as the use of “a writer's ideas or phraseology without giving due credit”; [39] and Brown explains plagiarism to be “appropriating another person's ideas or words (spoken or written) without attributing those word or ideas to their true source”.[40] As well-known institutions, they reflect a common academic definition of plagiarism. Lack of citation, giving credit, or attribution is considered to be plagiarism.
In academics, committing plagiarism comes down to failing to cite sources.
Once again you have FALSELY claimed that what I wrote amounted to plagiarism notwithstanding the words were in QUOTATION marks. I accept that you have not yet learnt the meaning of those marks.

Don't hide, explain the implications of my words that follow.
I knew from common sense that persons who were very much in trade etc. would also be a part of the African Slave trade. The PROOF took perhaps minutes to FIND.

Answer this question. Does the word FIND tell an IDIOT like you that I wrote it?

Explain or share your understanding of, "The PROOF took perhaps minutes to FIND."

Now, YOU have either not understood the words that you have quoted or have maliciously taken them out of context.

My boy, the use of quotation marks should tell a simpleton like you that the words were not mine. The CONTEXT says the words were not mine. The use of the word FIND tells even the very simple like yourself that I did NOT find the quote in my HEAD, hand or your favourite place my REAR. I found them somewhere EXTERNAL to myself.

The truth is even morons knew that I did not author the quotes so are you sub-moron?

What I did not do was to cite the source BUT I NEVER represented the words as my own and even you know this.
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<quoted text>I'm not a bastard, you descendant of slaves.
HughBe wrote:Alex--This lying Bstd spends all day and all night insutling Islam and the Prophet using the most despicable and the most hateful unauthentic islamophobic links without batting an eyelid!!....

Buford---I'm not a bastard, you descendant of slaves.

HughBe--- There is no doubt in your mind that you are clever because you were able to kill two birds with one stone. However, being bright in your neck of the woods equates to being a DUNCE here.

Let me ask you a few questions.

1. Are descendants of slaves less than you?
2. Are descendants of slaves humans?
3. Were the forefathers of slaves always slaves?
4. Were WHITES ever enslaved in the US or in Europe?
5. Tell me about white slavery in the 20th century in America? Did it exists?

Now if WHITES were enslaved at some time in history are YOU a descendant of SLAVES?
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HughBe wrote:
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Once again you have FALSELY claimed that what I wrote amounted to plagiarism notwithstanding the words were in QUOTATION marks. I accept that you have not yet learnt the meaning of those marks.
Don't hide, explain the implications of my words that follow.
I knew from common sense that persons who were very much in trade etc. would also be a part of the African Slave trade. The PROOF took perhaps minutes to FIND.
Answer this question. Does the word FIND tell an IDIOT like you that I wrote it?
Explain or share your understanding of, "The PROOF took perhaps minutes to FIND."
Now, YOU have either not understood the words that you have quoted or have maliciously taken them out of context.
My boy, the use of quotation marks should tell a simpleton like you that the words were not mine. The CONTEXT says the words were not mine. The use of the word FIND tells even the very simple like yourself that I did NOT find the quote in my HEAD, hand or your favourite place my REAR. I found them somewhere EXTERNAL to myself.
The truth is even morons knew that I did not author the quotes so are you sub-moron?
What I did not do was to cite the source BUT I NEVER represented the words as my own and even you know this.
"What I did not do was to cite the source"

EXACTLY - thats why its plagiarism (as according to the definition you requested I provide)

I get the feeling your inability or unwillingness to read the definition is inextricably linked to your previous behavior

not a big deal - I only mentioned it because I was interested in teh source. I never assumed you wrote it - it was too logical and rational for anything you have posted here

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Once again you have FALSELY claimed that what I wrote amounted to plagiarism
Nope - it was a true claim pursuant to the post above.

Why do you fight these things? Why even bother? You think we might think less of you becuase you cut and paste without citing a source? EARTH TO HUGHBE!!- we ALREADY thought less of you regardless - that cut and paste doesnt change a thing.

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Go ahead and quote the book properly, LIAR.
Educate everybody and show how your quote will change the FACTS given in my quote.
You are truly an EVIL creature.
Why, because I posted a link to an accepted and credible scholarly work 16 years later, that may of contradicted the initially UNCITED cut and paste you posted from a work published 16 years earlier?

You OBVIOUSLY have a problem with people criticizing your "authority" on matters.
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in Hebrew: "Many goyim shall come to Jerusalem; ten of them shall grab hold of the skirt of one yehudi saying 'We will go with you for we have heard that Elohim is with you'" (Zech 8:23) yehudim are worth groveling at

in Aramaic: "Haggai and Zechariah prophesied unto yehudain in Yehud and Jerusalem in the name of Elah yisrael" (Ezra 5:1)

why should some take offense if yehudim/yehudain is translated as judahites in english?
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"What I did not do was to cite the source"
EXACTLY - thats why its plagiarism (as according to the definition you requested I provide)
I get the feeling your inability or unwillingness to read the definition is inextricably linked to your previous behavior
not a big deal - I only mentioned it because I was interested in teh source. I never assumed you wrote it - it was too logical and rational for anything you have posted here
Once again, the words were in QUOTATION marks. What is your understanding of quotation marks?

I am still waiting. Explain the implications of my words that follow.I knew from common sense that persons who were very much in trade etc. would also be a part of the African Slave trade. The PROOF took perhaps minutes to FIND.

I am still waiting for an answer-- Does the word FIND tell an IDIOT like you that I wrote it?

I am still waiting for an explanation-- The PROOF took perhaps minutes to FIND.

Now, YOU have either not understood the words that you have quoted or have maliciously taken them out of context.

Finally, did I represent the words as my own?
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Why, because I posted a link to an accepted and credible scholarly work 16 years later, that may of contradicted the initially UNCITED cut and paste you posted from a work published 16 years earlier?
You OBVIOUSLY have a problem with people criticizing your "authority" on matters.
HughBe--- Are YOU telling me that Rabbi Raphael, a TOP historian of Jewish history, and a man who "for the last generation .. has been the EDITOR of the quarterly journal, American Jewish HISTORY" FABRICATED the information that he wrote?

Do you suppose that a man who has been the EDITOR of America Jewish HISTORY for a LONG time would know something about the slave trade?

For your source to contradict Rabbi Raphael, a TOP historian of Jewish history, it means one of them is LYING and FABRICATING history.

Did Rabbi Raphael, a TOP historian of Jewish history, fabricate the things that he wrote?

Is it a case where your source sought to "CORRECT" history.

Note the quotation marks. Do you understand its meaning in this context? It certainly went over your head in a different context if you are to believed. The truth is you are just plain DECEPTIVE and LIE. You understood the first use of the marks.

"Jews also took an active part in the Dutch colonial slave trade; indeed, the bylaws of the Recife and Mauricia congregations (1648) included an imposta (Jewish tax) of five soldos for each Negro slave a Brazilian Jew purchased from the West Indies Company. Slave AUCTIONS were POSTPONED if they fell on a Jewish holiday. In Curacao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played a MAJOR role in the slave trade. In FACT, in ALL the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently DOMINATED.

"This was no less true on the North American mainland, where during the eighteenth century Jews participated in the 'triangular trade' that brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies and there exchanged them for molasses, which in turn was taken to New England and converted into rum for sale in Africa. Isaac Da Costa of Charleston in the 1750's, David Franks of Philadelphia in the 1760's, and Aaron Lopez of Newport in the late 1760's and early 1770's dominated Jewish slave trading on the American continent."

"Slave trading was a MAJOR feature of Jewish economic life in Surinam which as a major stopping-off point in the triangular trade. Both North American and Caribbean Jews played a key role in this commerce: records of a slave sale in 1707 reveal that the ten LARGEST Jewish purchasers (10,400 guilders) spent more than 25 PERCENT of the total funds (38,605 guilders) exchanged."

Source---"Rabbi Raphael is both a rabbi and a TOP historian of Jewish history. For the last generation he has been the EDITOR of the quarterly journal, American Jewish History.

He is the Nathan and Sophia Gumenick Professor of Judaic Studies, Professor of Religion, and Chair, Department of Religion, The College of William and Mary, and a Visiting Fellow of Wolfson College, Oxford University.

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uhuh wrote:
in Hebrew: "Many goyim shall come to Jerusalem; ten of them shall grab hold of the skirt of one yehudi saying 'We will go with you for we have heard that Elohim is with you'" (Zech 8:23) yehudim are worth groveling at
in Aramaic: "Haggai and Zechariah prophesied unto yehudain in Yehud and Jerusalem in the name of Elah yisrael" (Ezra 5:1)
why should some take offense if yehudim/yehudain is translated as judahites in english?
Because it is meant to be offensive.

Hughbe believes in the Christian fundamentalist doctrine of replacement theology. I.E. Jews are unworthy of their "spiritual inheritence", leaving Christians like him free to step in.

Labeling us jews as Judaites or whatever is part of that.

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