Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 230303 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#157078 Jan 1, 2013
Buford wrote:
Hi Frijoles,
I hate to put you on the spot, but the Singaporean and supposed Hebrew scholar is making assertions, yet again, this time about what Psalm 22:19 REALLY means, to wit:
"They part my garments among them, and for my vesture do they cast lots."
The author of John's Gospel references this passage with regard to the disposition of the clothes that Jesus was wearing when he was led out to be crucified.
I should add that whether or not one even agrees that the event occurred, the question here concerns what ACTUAL and not PRETEND Hebrew scholars have to say about the meaning of this passage from Pslam 22.
Hey village idiot...
Why do you come up with utter rubbish...?
"John(s)" could have written a million things to "confirm" the meaningless contents of badly translated & badly written Jewish books nearly 200 years after the disappearance of the man.

Nobody saw this besides some liars who were making up stories to confirm "prophecy"..!

Now that is the same as drawing a bullseye around any arrow after it has landed somewhere...anywhere!

Load of bull...just like the donkey ride that is supposed to be "triumpal" entry into jerusalem!!Do you realise that he was being jeered?
ofcourse not..because you are a wood-buttboy...
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#157079 Jan 1, 2013
Buford wrote:
Hi Frijoles,
I hate to put you on the spot, but the Singaporean and supposed Hebrew scholar is making assertions, yet again, this time about what Psalm 22:19 REALLY means, to wit:

"They part my garments among them, and for my vesture do they cast lots."

The author of John's Gospel references this passage with regard to the disposition of the clothes that Jesus was wearing when he was led out to be crucified.

I should add that whether or not one even agrees that the event occurred, the question here concerns what ACTUAL and not PRETEND Hebrew scholars have to say about the meaning of this passage from Pslam 22.
I have never claimed to be a Hebrew scholar.

The author of John ridiculously had his clothes, whatever he was wearing, taken by the Roman soldiers to get the so-called Psalm "prophesy" fulfilled. There is no prophesy at all.

In Psalms 22, David was lamenting! He was asking for the LORD's help. Jesus was not at all attacked by bulls, dogs and lions of Bashan. They were never at his throat and he was not under any threat. His bones were not disjointed, had no offspring and was not buried among the wicked.

Jesus himself never self-loathed! It was John, who self-loathed.

And why would the unbelieving Romans talk about a prophesy and fulfill the scripture for Jesus?

"They part my garments among them, and for my vesture do they cast lots.", simply means "They loot my wealth and property and divide amongst themselves".

When the Romans occupied, they did not force the Jews to take their clothes off and did not share their garments by balloting or lottery.

Why do you find it so hard to understand? Tell me what did they do with a man's torn and tattered clothes?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#157080 Jan 1, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>George the Phallus Phixated,
Do you know HEBREW?
hello buttboy...seems you have moved from "back" to "front"...lol..
Do you stop to ask for expert opinion on Arabic?
You are a clueless bigoted buttlicker....
You are a failure...thats what you are..
Hebrew.. Arabic and Aramaic....I can safely say I know a "bit" more than you.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#157081 Jan 1, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks!
From the first link:
There are several Jewish perspectives on this psalm, all of which agree that King David composed it and is the “voice” throughout, and that it is historical, not messianic. However, they differ on the particulars. The view that is the most consistent with the plain reading of this psalm holds that it is David’s own personal story, in which he describes his own pain, anguish, and longing during those times when he was a fugitive from his enemies, believing that, at times, God had not heeded his pleas for intervention. He pleads with God to come to his aid since his persecutors are relentlessly pursuing him in their zeal to dispossess him of his kingdom and mantle of royalty.
__________
Hmm, being dispossessed of the "mantle of royalty" is expressed as "casting lots" for his vesture?
I'd also found the sencond linked site. Excerpt:
"Unfortunately, I've found it nearly impossible to find commentary on Psalm 22 that doesn't very quickly turn into a debate over this line (JPS):
17 For dogs have encompassed me; a company of evil-doers have inclosed me; like a lion, they are at my hands and my feet.
get real buttboy....the non gentiles CANNOT agree with you just because youi like licking their butts!
Despite all their shortcoming...they worship One God.
They don't worship your "god".
Get real....and psalmxx has nothing to do with your pagan gentile claims.
time to stop butts...now that doesn't mean you get to the "forn" licking...
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#157082 Jan 1, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
The early Christians were in fact Jews. There was already a split in Jewish society around that time between the Saduccees and the Pharisees, and the sect that followed Jesus was in fact that, a sect, not a different religion. That came afterwords, a few centuries afterwords.
I can accept that. However, I do see him getting early followers from sects.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#157083 Jan 1, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I have never claimed to be a Hebrew scholar.
The author of John ridiculously had his clothes, whatever he was wearing, taken by the Roman soldiers to get the so-called Psalm "prophesy" fulfilled. There is no prophesy at all.
In Psalms 22, David was lamenting! He was asking for the LORD's help. Jesus was not at all attacked by bulls, dogs and lions of Bashan. They were never at his throat and he was not under any threat. His bones were not disjointed, had no offspring and was not buried among the wicked.
Jesus himself never self-loathed! It was John, who self-loathed.
And why would the unbelieving Romans talk about a prophesy and fulfill the scripture for Jesus?
"They part my garments among them, and for my vesture do they cast lots.", simply means "They loot my wealth and property and divide amongst themselves".
When the Romans occupied, they did not force the Jews to take their clothes off and did not share their garments by balloting or lottery.
Why do you find it so hard to understand? Tell me what did they do with a man's torn and tattered clothes?
It is comical when bu(utteredbuttturdlick)ford makes spurious claims...
Surely the prophecy worked on almost all chaps who were hanged/"crucified".. .as they were often stripped naked..
so any one of them could have been fulfilling the meaningless prophecy!
What's new....let's make them all gods..lol
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#157084 Jan 1, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
F-off
from a nongentile -
(smiles)
I don't think that Phallus Phace likes Jews at all, and your (smiles) makes me wonder what ever happened to our Man in Mumbai.
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#157085 Jan 1, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
get real buttboy....the non gentiles CANNOT agree with you just because youi like licking their butts!
Despite all their shortcoming...they worship One God.
They don't worship your "god".
Get real....and psalmxx has nothing to do with your pagan gentile claims.
time to stop butts...now that doesn't mean you get to the "forn" licking...
George,

Take your meds.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#157086 Jan 1, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
F-off
from a nongentile -
(smiles)
Bless you non-gentile and my God is not tribal racist bigoted sexist anti-gentile slave god who is only concerned with a stolen piece of land off the palestinians...(smiles).
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#157087 Jan 1, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
Surely the prophecy worked on almost all chaps who were hanged/"crucified".. .as they were often stripped naked..
Your boy bmz knows for a FACT that Jesus was not stripped naked.

BTW, you haven't addressed the point that your "prophet" flat out DENIED that Jesus was crucified AT ALL, whether "TIED or nailed to the cross," but then, you've always been more about tearing Christianity to shreds, being the sorry excuse of an ex-priest, ex-Christian that you are, than defending the reputation and "good name" of your "Allah" approved murderer, thief, rape enabler, and enslaver.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#157088 Jan 1, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>George,
Take your meds.
Not for the lat time buttboy..."woodglue" is not "meds"!!

Get real buttboy....the non gentiles will NEVER agree with you just because you like licking their butts!

Despite all their shortcoming...they worship One God.
They don't worship your three piece "mangod".

Get real....the psalmxxx has nothing to do with your pagan gentile claims.
time to stop licking butts...That does NOT give you permission to get to the "front" licking...
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#157089 Jan 1, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think that Phallus Phace likes Jews at all, and your (smiles) makes me wonder what ever happened to our Man in Mumbai.
I like Jews. I don't like liars who use Judaism to promote their disgusting agenda.

Buttboy hates Jews but buttboy has been forced into being PC about Jews to wash his hands off 1800 year persecution of Jews as CHRIST KILLERS.....but it never works buttboy....The Jews know your books HATE them and they also know that you guys are dumping them in Israel hoping that your mangod will return to fulfill your looney prophecy about giving the "Christ killers" a hard time!!!
The Jews know that you are stupid...
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#157090 Jan 1, 2013
bmz wrote:
Tell me what did they do with a man's torn and tattered clothes?
In Jesus' case, they divided what they could divide, and cast lots for the seamless tunic, you BRAINDEAD MUSLIM ZEALOT.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#157091 Jan 1, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>
Your boy bmz knows for a FACT that Jesus was not stripped naked.
BTW, you haven't addressed the point that your "prophet" flat out DENIED that Jesus was crucified AT ALL, whether "TIED or nailed to the cross," but then, you've always been more about tearing Christianity to shreds, being the sorry excuse of an ex-priest, ex-Christian that you are, than defending the reputation and "good name" of your "Allah" approved murderer, thief, rape enabler, and enslaver.
Buttboy....!
Many were stripped naked...whipped..and many have been stuck on poles...many can claim that the prophecy refers to these characters....but these are like drawing bullseye AFTER the event!
Jesus did NOT come to make a BOLD claim that he was God in human form who came to die for the sins of idiots like you!
He did NOT die for you.
You are screwed!
Stop worshipping BJ and save yourself braindead buttboy.
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#157092 Jan 1, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Not for the lat time buttboy..."woodglue" is not "meds"!!
Get real buttboy....the non gentiles will NEVER agree with you just because you like licking their butts!
Despite all their shortcoming...they worship One God.
They don't worship your three piece "mangod".
Get real....the psalmxxx has nothing to do with your pagan gentile claims.
time to stop licking butts...That does NOT give you permission to get to the "front" licking...
Phallus Phace,

The Jews worshiped "One God" when that damned bloody fool "prophet" of yours decided that worshiping "One God" simply WASN'T ENOUGH. Their rejection of this pretentious conjurer from the caves of Mecca is precisely why he HATED them so intensely. His Qur'an, that 7th century Mein Kampf, is proof of it.

Prove me wrong.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#157093 Jan 1, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>
In Jesus' case, they divided what they could divide, and cast lots for the seamless tunic, you BRAINDEAD MUSLIM ZEALOT.
lol...why did they divide it buttboy?
BJ was in hiding...he probably didn't have a wash..shower..bath for months....the clothes were quite pongy..
Were the romans so hard up?
you are a fool...
Ask me..I was a Priest..
stop believing lies..
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#157094 Jan 1, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
I like Jews. I don't like liars who use Judaism to promote their disgusting agenda.
Buttboy hates Jews but buttboy has been forced into being PC about Jews to wash his hands off 1800 year persecution of Jews as CHRIST KILLERS.....but it never works buttboy....The Jews know your books HATE them and they also know that you guys are dumping them in Israel hoping that your mangod will return to fulfill your looney prophecy about giving the "Christ killers" a hard time!!!
The Jews know that you are stupid...
Phallus Phace,

You have a lively imagination, and you are a liar.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#157095 Jan 1, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>
Your boy bmz knows for a FACT that Jesus was not stripped naked.
BTW, you haven't addressed the point that your "prophet" flat out DENIED that Jesus was crucified AT ALL, whether "TIED or nailed to the cross," but then, you've always been more about tearing Christianity to shreds, being the sorry excuse of an ex-priest, ex-Christian that you are, than defending the reputation and "good name" of your "Allah" approved murderer, thief, rape enabler, and enslaver.
Why do you continue to derive pleasure from a misguided notion that a poor Jewish man was beaten up..stripped naked..nailed to a pole and was left to die at the instigation of some "cruel" Jews?
Ad you love JEWS?

We claim that the JEWS did NOT kill Jesus.
And we don't love Jews??

You are a pathetic glue sniffing liar..
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#157096 Jan 1, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>Phallus Phace,
The Jews worshiped "One God" when that damned bloody fool "prophet" of yours decided that worshiping "One God" simply WASN'T ENOUGH. Their rejection of this pretentious conjurer from the caves of Mecca is precisely why he HATED them so intensely. His Qur'an, that 7th century Mein Kampf, is proof of it.
Prove me wrong.
buttboy....Wake up!!
READ the Jewish books!!
They have turned ONE GOD into their OWN slave god....
You simply have no wisdom....

Islam gives DIRECT access to the ONE TRUE GOD, by ANY human irrespective of their race colour or nationality.

Buttboy...your fake claims about the Holy Prophet makes even less sense with your "gospels" that CLEARLY accuse JEWS of the MURDER of your mangod!
Your lovely "john" is doing a great job insulting the JEWS as CHRIST KILLERS.

Dumb buttboy...
If the HOLY PROPHET hated the JEWS, he would NEVER claim that Jesus the JEW was a good man of God and his JEWISH Mother Mary was a pure woman.
If the HOLY PROPHET hated the JEWS, he would have joined biogts like you and branded JEWS as CHRIST KILLERS.
You are dismissed...you are an insignificant ignorant glue sniffer...
I would love to visit your "church" incognito and make you kneel down in front of me...
I may do it one day because you will never know that I am a Muslim!
Rock on..buttboy..
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#157097 Jan 1, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>Phallus Phace,
The Jews worshiped "One God" when that damned bloody fool "prophet" of yours decided that worshiping "One God" simply WASN'T ENOUGH. Their rejection of this pretentious conjurer from the caves of Mecca is precisely why he HATED them so intensely. His Qur'an, that 7th century Mein Kampf, is proof of it.
Prove me wrong.
Ignorant buttboy...you not only cannot understand hebrew arabic or aramaic...you are also short on your german!
READ mein kampf....learn about your mangod and the nazi messiah!
Go away fool..

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