Who Is Allah?

There are 20 comments on the Aug 24, 2007, The Brussels Journal story titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156895 Dec 30, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you people try and get a Quran forged?
That would solve "Most" of your problems with Muslims!!
Salaams brother.
They cannot forge because Allah has preserved it for all to see.

Even the Pope cannot show us the authentic Bible!
He will not be able to quote many verses as quoted By Jesus pbuh.
Quran on the other hand is etched in the hearts of millions!
That alone is proof that Quran stands head and shoulders above their holy books.
Those who insult Quran are like dogs barking at the moon.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156896 Dec 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Now this gives rise to another question:
In the passion accounts, they described beating, whipping, lashing with iron balls, etc, including spitting and crowing him with a crown made of thorns. Right? Details were not missed.
Why did they not describe how he was fixed up and how were the nails driven. What was the reaction of the crowd? What stories were circulating in the town and the neighboring regions?
How come such an important detail escaped the eyes and ears of the writers?
Tell you why! Because no nails were really driven.
If nails had been driven, it would not have been possible to take him down without rupturing his hands and legs. It shows that no nails were driven.
Now, do a simple test. Get a whole leg of lamb from the butcher. Place it on a timber piece 12" x 12". Use a 3/8 inch diameter x 8" long spike or nail and drive it through the leg into the timber.
Try to pull out the leg of the lamb and see what happens!!!
You can pull out a nail directly driven into timber but how can you pull it out from the leg of the lamb nailed to timber, with out tearing out the leg?
If buford had the money he would buy a leg of lamb and eat it! lol..
They have already eaten their "lamb" and drunk his blood.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156897 Dec 30, 2012
Buford wrote:
Pakistan militants kill 40 in mass execution, attack on Shiites
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/30...
QUETTA, Pakistan - Pakistani militants, who have escalated attacks in recent weeks, killed at least 40 people in two separate incidents, officials said on Sunday, challenging assertions that military offensives have broken the back of hardline Islamist groups.
A car bomb exploded near a convoy of buses taking Shiite pilgrims to Iran, killing at least 19 people and wounding 30, officials told NBC News, the latest attack on the minority sect.
Earlier Sunday, 21 tribal policemen believed to have been kidnapped by the Taliban were found shot dead in Pakistan's troubled northwest tribal region, government officials said.
Witnesses said the blast occurred as the three buses were overtaking a car about 35 miles west of Quetta, capital of sparsely populated Baluchistan province, site of many sectarian attacks, near the Iranian border.
Pakistan has experienced a spike in killings over the last year by radical Sunni Muslims targeting Shiites who they consider heretics. The violence has been especially pronounced in Baluchistan province, where the latest attack occurred.
__________
IOW, it's "good" Muslims muredering "bad" Muslims "For Allah and His Messenger."
No, it has to do with politics. It also has to do with the presence of foreign rogues and rascals, who invaded Iraq under lies and deceit in Iraq and are currently in Afghanistan. They are the ones, who pitted the Muslims against each others.

There were no sectarian clashes in Iraq before the US invasion, at all.

Anyway, one reaps what one sows, so we have to live with it. Let them kill each other. You should be happy as along as they do not kill your folks at home, foreign troops in Afghanistan excluded.

"My enemy's friend is my enemy" is the main reason. Pakistan is suffering from this foreign instituted cancer. All Muslims taking the sides with the Americans and the Nato, are getting it.
george whyte

Lincoln, UK

#156898 Dec 30, 2012
The koran says Allah cannot have a son without a consort,[1] yet claims Mary had a son without a consort.[2] Is this not limiting Allah's omnipotence,[3] and why is Mary capable of doing something Allah cannot?
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#156899 Dec 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Now this gives rise to another question:
In the passion accounts, they described beating, whipping, lashing with iron balls, etc, including spitting and crowing him with a crown made of thorns. Right? Details were not missed.
Lashing with iron balls, eh? That's your Roman scourge?

As for removing a criminal from the cross after he'd been nailed to it, all you'd have to do is drive the nails back out, if the points protruded from the back of the crossmember, and then use something like a claw hammer and a pivot to remove them the rest of the way. No big deal, especially if the same crossmembers had been used before, so that the nails were driven into pre-existing holes, but it IS a big deal if you're a Muslim who needs to maintain that Jesus was neither crucified nor killed (Qur'an 4:157).

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156900 Dec 30, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Salaams brother.
They cannot forge because Allah has preserved it for all to see.
Even the Pope cannot show us the authentic Bible!
He will not be able to quote many verses as quoted By Jesus pbuh.
Quran on the other hand is etched in the hearts of millions!
That alone is proof that Quran stands head and shoulders above their holy books.
Those who insult Quran are like dogs barking at the moon.
Even the Popes were frauds. These men were installed by the kings and their submissive Church fathers.

There is no such thing as an authentic Bible.
george whyte

Lincoln, UK

#156901 Dec 30, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Salaams brother.
They cannot forge because Allah has preserved it for all to see.
Even the Pope cannot show us the authentic Bible!
He will not be able to quote many verses as quoted By Jesus pbuh.
Quran on the other hand is etched in the hearts of millions!
That alone is proof that Quran stands head and shoulders above their holy books.
Those who insult Quran are like dogs barking at the moon.
ok show us the authentic koran..

thousands of people have memorised harry potter books does that mean they are from god
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#156902 Dec 30, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
If buford had the money he would buy a leg of lamb and eat it! lol..
They have already eaten their "lamb" and drunk his blood.
George,

If you had a brain you'd be dangerous.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156903 Dec 30, 2012
george whyte wrote:
The koran says Allah cannot have a son without a consort,[1] yet claims Mary had a son without a consort.[2] Is this not limiting Allah's omnipotence,[3] and why is Mary capable of doing something Allah cannot?
The Qur'aan actually says this:

Translation by yours truly

"6:101 Allah is the Creator of the heavens and the earth. How can Allah have a child, when he has no wife? He created everything and is aware of everything."

And Mary was not the Father's consort or wife. Right?

Mary did not do that on her own or herself. A child was granted to her by God, who had not impregnated her in the usual way.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156904 Dec 30, 2012
george whyte wrote:
<quoted text>ok show us the authentic koran..
thousands of people have memorised harry potter books does that mean they are from god
Harry Potter cannot be memorised.
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#156905 Dec 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it has to do with politics. It also has to do with the presence of foreign rogues and rascals, who invaded Iraq under lies and deceit in Iraq and are currently in Afghanistan. They are the ones, who pitted the Muslims against each others.
There were no sectarian clashes in Iraq before the US invasion, at all.
Anyway, one reaps what one sows, so we have to live with it. Let them kill each other. You should be happy as along as they do not kill your folks at home, foreign troops in Afghanistan excluded.
"My enemy's friend is my enemy" is the main reason. Pakistan is suffering from this foreign instituted cancer. All Muslims taking the sides with the Americans and the Nato, are getting it.
Braindead Muslim Zealot,

Sunnis kill Shi'ites in Pakistan because they believe that they are HERETICS. It has NOTHING to do with the Americans and Nato, as much as you'd like to blame it on those meddling "rogues and rascals."

Saddam Hussein, a Sunni, managed "the sectarian clashes" in Iraq by murdering thousands upon thousands of his own people, the Shia. NO ONE CAN DENY THIS FACT, as you like to say. Perhaps that's how you would have preferred it remaining, with the Butcher of Baghdad still in power and his sons Uday and Qusay stocking their rape rooms with fresh meat.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156906 Dec 30, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>
Lashing with iron balls, eh? That's your Roman scourge?
As for removing a criminal from the cross after he'd been nailed to it, all you'd have to do is drive the nails back out, if the points protruded from the back of the crossmember, and then use something like a claw hammer and a pivot to remove them the rest of the way. No big deal, especially if the same crossmembers had been used before, so that the nails were driven into pre-existing holes, but it IS a big deal if you're a Muslim who needs to maintain that Jesus was neither crucified nor killed (Qur'an 4:157).
That is a very poor and lame reasoning.

The Romans did not pre-drill or pre-bore holes. They just shifted the men slightly up or down.

Anyway, get a timber post, nail the leg of a lamb and try to retrieve it without harming the bones and flesh. Or nail a dead lamb on a cross made to measure and try to use a claw hammer to pull out the nail by resting it on the lamb's leg.

The Romans did not use screws or through bolts to fix him up.

The point is why no one mentioned the driving of nails in details?

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#156907 Dec 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Colonna,
You are cracking me up. This is getting hilarious.
Actually you are craching all of us up. This is getting hilarious for real.
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>I showed the difference between the teachings. You always get it wrong. Read my post again.
Isn't strange you always say to people they get it wrong? It's more plausible you don't really understand what others are saying to you.

This is what you wrote: "Here is the difference between the teaching of Muhammad and Jesus. Muhammad preached and taught one God. Died and all believed in that one God. Nothing else.
Jesus preached and taught one God, whom he introduced as the Father in heaven, not as hos own father. Died and all were forced to believe in a Triune God."

Now among the teachings the only difference you point out is that Jesus introduced god as the father. This difference is quite irrelevant to make a point.
Other differences are about one god vs triune god, who none of them has taught, in fact this part concern religions and not the teaching of the so called prophets.

In the Jesus part you said people were forced to believe in triune god. In part this is true, but let's not forget Muhammad forced arabs to believe in his god.
bmz wrote:
<quoted text> All were forced to believe in the false doctrines. Those, who did not, were boiled in oil, burned alive, murdered, beheaded and so on. Even the books they had, were burned. That is why people were hiding their scriptures and books in caves, all over the region. DSS is one example.
Please read the darkest history of Christianity and the Church.
This para is too vague. Are you pointing out the Church? Who has the church boiled in old, burned alive, murdered, beheaded and so on? Which false doctrines did this folks reject? Links are a must. It's interesting if this is true, although you are acting as hypocrite forgetting all the atrocity and wars Muhammad did.

What DSS has to do with people hiding the scriptures and books because of Christianity? But don't you know that the DSS is only about OT/Tanakh, and their scrolls dated before the origin of Christianity.

Well, that's case to say you showed up again to be the last of all ignorant fool in the world.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156908 Dec 30, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>Braindead Muslim Zealot,
You are one very twisted individual.
Try to understand this fundamental point: The problem isn't just that "good" Muslims are murdering "bad" Muslims "for Allah and His Messenger," but that they are ALSO murdering Christians and Jews and assorted other "infidels" and "blasphemers" who have been defined as such by that murder condoning "prophet" of yours in his hate-filled screed, the "Qur'aan," as you like to spell it.
No. I have already made my view known.

The idea of killing people in the name of religion, came only from Christianity, not Muslims.

You know very well how many millions of Jews were killed and butchered for no reason, in the name of a man, whom you call Jesus. That was the result of extremely disgusting hate, which was spread by the hate-filled books known as Gospels of the New Testament.

What Jesus' stingy disciples could not do, was done by the killers of 'Christ Killers", who carried thousands of swords.

How come you can's see past your nose, Buford? Also, haven't you read the KKK's Hate Manual known as Christians' Old Testament, which actually became a Newer Testament, when slaughter of the Jews was carried out?

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#156909 Dec 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
The Qur'aan actually says this:
Translation by yours truly
"6:101 Allah is the Creator of the heavens and the earth. How can Allah have a child, when he has no wife? He created everything and is aware of everything."
And Mary was not the Father's consort or wife. Right?
Mary did not do that on her own or herself. A child was granted to her by God, who had not impregnated her in the usual way.
That's foolish nonsense!

This means:
If Allah to have a son needs a consort then it shows how unpowerful he is, and how poor his reasonings are.

A god who impregnants a human in a different manner, sending either the holy ghost or the spirit of truth. That ignorant of Muhammad didnm't know that the Gospel writers or whoever forged it after them have either intentonally or not misunderstood Isaiah 7:14, giving a sort of divinity to the Nazarene,(quite a pagan idea I have to say) and that's how you have a virgin giving birth to a child. An ignorant fool came 7 centuries later and taken that tale for truth.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156910 Dec 30, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually you are craching all of us up. This is getting hilarious for real.
<quoted text>
Isn't strange you always say to people they get it wrong? It's more plausible you don't really understand what others are saying to you.
This is what you wrote: "Here is the difference between the teaching of Muhammad and Jesus. Muhammad preached and taught one God. Died and all believed in that one God. Nothing else.
Jesus preached and taught one God, whom he introduced as the Father in heaven, not as hos own father. Died and all were forced to believe in a Triune God."
Now among the teachings the only difference you point out is that Jesus introduced god as the father. This difference is quite irrelevant to make a point.
Other differences are about one god vs triune god, who none of them has taught, in fact this part concern religions and not the teaching of the so called prophets.
In the Jesus part you said people were forced to believe in triune god. In part this is true, but let's not forget Muhammad forced arabs to believe in his god.
<quoted text>
This para is too vague. Are you pointing out the Church? Who has the church boiled in old, burned alive, murdered, beheaded and so on? Which false doctrines did this folks reject? Links are a must. It's interesting if this is true, although you are acting as hypocrite forgetting all the atrocity and wars Muhammad did.
What DSS has to do with people hiding the scriptures and books because of Christianity? But don't you know that the DSS is only about OT/Tanakh, and their scrolls dated before the origin of Christianity.
Well, that's case to say you showed up again to be the last of all ignorant fool in the world.
Boy, you ARE an ignorant fool. You confirm this every time you write.

Read the Darkest History of Christianity and then come back to me.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156911 Dec 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I had already spotted that, bro.
Can you please mount a slaughtered lamb on a cross, nail his legs well and try to bring him down, without damaging his legs?
Thanks!
Salaams
BMZ
lol...Roast lamb on nail!
The claim that Jesus Pbuh was nailed to a cross is utter pagan rubbish brother as you and I well know.
BJ on the other hand is the subject of many speculations...
- Was BJ nailed to a cross A la paganski..(Cross represents, a shorter horizontal vagina beam being penetrated by a longer vertical penis beam)

There is no evidence that for the first 300 years after Jesus' "death", those claiming to be Christians used the cross in worship. In 4th century, PAGAN Emperor Constantine claimed to convert to Christianity and promoted the CROSS as its symbol. Whatever Constantine's motives, the cross had nothing to do with Jesus Christ. The cross is pagan in origin.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia says: "The cross is found in both pre-Christian and non-Christian cultures."
Various other authorities have linked the cross with nature worship and PAGAN SEX rites.

Why was this pagan symbol promoted?
To make it easier for pagans to accept the Church.
Devotion to any pagan symbol is condemned by the Bible.(2 Corinthians 6:14-18) The Scriptures also forbid all forms of idolatry.(Exodus 20:4,5; 1 Corinthians 10:14)

- Was BJ hanged on a tree as per Jewish scriptures?
Deut 21:
22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:
23 His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God;) that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance

".... Jesus, whom ye slew and HANGED on a tree." (Acts 5.30.)

"And we are witnesses of all things which he [Jesus] did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and HANGED on a tree" (Acts 10.39.)

".. they TOOK HIM DOWN from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre." (Acts 13.29/Deut 21:23.)

Paul was referring to the Torah's prescribed form of execution by stoning for certain offenses, such as blasphemy and idolatry. After being stoned to death, the person's body was hung on a tree to show the individual was under God's curse. To the Jews, hanging on a tree had become a metaphor for an apostate, a blasphemer or a person deemed under God's curse. That's exactly how the Jews viewed Jesus (John 5:18; 10:33; Matthew 26:63-65).

- Was BJ tied to a pole? Clear phallus!
Ask the JW and they can explain it.

The "death" and "rising" claims verge on perversion linked to the phallus?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156912 Dec 30, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
That's foolish nonsense!
This means:
If Allah to have a son needs a consort then it shows how unpowerful he is, and how poor his reasonings are.
A god who impregnants a human in a different manner, sending either the holy ghost or the spirit of truth. That ignorant of Muhammad didnm't know that the Gospel writers or whoever forged it after them have either intentonally or not misunderstood Isaiah 7:14, giving a sort of divinity to the Nazarene,(quite a pagan idea I have to say) and that's how you have a virgin giving birth to a child. An ignorant fool came 7 centuries later and taken that tale for truth.
clueless idiot.
This fool has no understanding of matters divine.
Mahmood

Mississauga, Canada

#156913 Dec 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Mahmood,
Here is a link for your shopping cart. Please order and keep on adding to your shopping cart.
http://www.google.com.sg/search...
Thanks for the link, I had peek at it. The information in there is nothing new.
I have Maxime Rodinson's work on Mohammad. He too uses Ben Issac & Tabari.
No one writes biography about Mohammad, without indulging in Ben Issac or Tabari, whether it
its Karen Armstrong or that 21st CE charlatan Deepak Chopra.

My problem with you is that you have always rejected "other books" unless it happens
to be the Koran. So why are you then giving me links concerning information that is not
in the Koran? FYI, I have read many biographies on Mohammad, from Mubarakpuri - Hykal
and Watt. They all give us the same information. What's so special about the link you
provided? Because from what I can see, all that information is in their books.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156914 Dec 30, 2012
george whyte wrote:
The koran says Allah cannot have a son without a consort,[1] yet claims Mary had a son without a consort.[2] Is this not limiting Allah's omnipotence,[3] and why is Mary capable of doing something Allah cannot?
lol...
ignorance is bliss...when it comes to south asian daalit.

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