Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256358 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Mahmood

Schomberg, Canada

#156845 Dec 29, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Mahmood,
You are also another fool.
Muhammad was born in 570 and died in 632. That is also not in Qur'aan. Do you have some other dates from the bloody fool Ibn Asshaq?
And you write another internet junkie remark "From what I understand, all this information comes to us from Ben Issac unless you have some other sources that no else is aware of.", which shows you have not read any other book.
By doing so, you make yourself look like a fool! What can I do, when I read such childish posts coming from adults?
You have not answered my questions. How do you know the names of Mohammad's wives when they are not mentioned in the Koran? You seem to engage in double standards. And who told you that he was born in 570, because that too is not in the Koran? Name a few books that you have read and I have not, so that I can get a hold of them.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#156846 Dec 29, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
The point is simple, if you consider certain books tales, then as an adult like you claim to be, you should reject them, because they are but tale. Let me make you an example that I can bring you at the level where others are yet.
Which part of Cindarella's story is true?
Which part of Snow White's story is true?
Can you pick and choose the true there? No because they are all invented. And so is whatever book yu consider tale. The picking and choosing stories in tales in nonsense.
As for your job of picking and choosing, you believe that Muhammad loved dogs. Where did you get it from? Hadiths that you consider tales, right? How do you know tales tell truth if they are tales and such as they don't and there is nothing to verify the claim? You solved this issue by looking at Quran that never mention anything of that kind. Only because Quran report a story of a dog, and if the prophet hated dogs, he would not have mentioned them, this is what you said.
Aside the fact the Quran is the word of Allah and not Muhammad, thus anything written there came from Allah and whatever is the feeling or thought of your prophet about dogs couldnt have influenced Allah, right? But even if the Quran came from Muhammad, why he should not mentions of presence of a dog if it was there? Are you saying he's capable to omit stories?
That show pretty much what kind of ignorant fool you are.
<quoted text>
As explained before the Gospels are commonly called 'Gospel according to' which implies from Christians the awareness that the Gospels differ in certain things, but on important issues they all agree, or some in cases there is no contradiction but omission. By important issues I mean things like resurrection.
So when you point out a contradiction to show them something actually you are doing something that is known yet, passing therefore for ignorant fool. And as I said in the other posts what matter the most in the Gospels is the teaching of Jesus, or at least what is written he taught/said.
NO this is the point.........Allah is a hamster who flies around in a jet to appease Christianity and reads watchtowers. There is no ALLAH. ALLAH is dead, thousands of years ago, killed under a wagon wheel, fetching a a hamster.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#156847 Dec 29, 2012
Excerpts from the Gospel of Barnabas, Part-20

Chapter 40 : Fall of Adam

When Satan had knowledge of this he became mad with indignation, and so he drew near to the gate of paradise where a horrid serpent with legs like a camel, and nails on his feet [that] cut like a razor on every side, stood on guard. The enemy said to him:'Let me to enter into paradise.'..

Then the serpent did so, and placed Satan near Eve, for Adam, her husband, was sleeping. Satan presented himself before the woman like a beauteous angel, and said to her:'Why do you not eat of those apples and corn?' Eve answered:'Our God has said to us that [if we] eat [them] we shall be unclean, and he will drive us from paradise.'

Satan answered:'He does not speak the truth!…

Then Eve took and ate of those [fruits], and when her husband awoke she told [him everything] that Satan had said; and he took and ate the fruit [when] his wife offered them to him. But, as the food was going down, he remembered the words of God, and, wishing to stop the food, he put his hand into his throat, where every man has the mark…(This tallies in part with what is recorded in Genesis-MUQ)

Chapter 41 After the Fall

Then both of them knew that they were naked, and, being ashamed, they took fig leaves and made a clothing for their secret parts. When midday was passed, God appeared to them, and called Adam, saying:'Adam, where are you?' He answered:'Lord, I hid myself from your presence because my wife and I are naked, and so we are ashamed to present ourselves before you.' Then God said:'And who has robbed you of your innocence, unless you have eaten the fruit [that makes you] unclean, and will not be able to abide [any] longer in paradise?'

Adam answered:'O Lord, the wife whom you have given me [urged] me to eat [it] and so I have eaten it.' Then God said to the woman:'Why did you give [this] food to your husband?' Eve answered:'Satan deceived me, and so I ate [the fruit].''And how did that reprobate enter into [the garden]?' said God. Eve answered:'A serpent that stands at the northern gate brought him near to me.'

Then God said to Adam:'Because you have [listened to] your wife and have eaten the fruit, cursed be the earth in your works; it shall bring forth brambles and thorns for you, and you shall eat bread by the sweat of your face. Remember that you are earth, and to earth you return.' And he spoke to Eve, saying:'And you who did [listen] to Satan, and gave the food to your husband, shall abide under the dominion of man, who shall keep you as a slave, and you shall bear children with travail.'

Satan then gave a horrible roar, and said:'Since you will to make me [continually] worse, I will make me that which I shall be able!' Then said God:'Depart, cursed one, from my presence!' Then Satan departed, and God said to Adam [and] Eve, who were both weeping:'Go forth from paradise, and do penance, and do not let your hope fail, for I will send your son so that your seed shall lift the dominion of Satan from off the human race: for I will give all things to he who shall come, my Messenger.'

Note: It tallies with parts of Genesis, but there is no concept of Original Sin-MUQ)

(Abridged)
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#156849 Dec 29, 2012
MUQ wrote:
for I will give all things to he who shall come, my Messenger.'
That's Mohammad, right?

Your precious Gospel of Barnabas is a Muslim FORGERY.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#156850 Dec 29, 2012
Have any of you had dealings with a poltergeist?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#156851 Dec 29, 2012
El Morales wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought that the question from Mahmood was relevant ie If you say that all the siras and hadiths writers were fools where do you get your info from? Do you have another source?
In his post # 156821, Mahmood had written this and I had responded to his absurd and childish comment:

"From what I understand, all this information comes to us from Ben Issac unless you have some other sources that no else is aware of."

You can see from his statement that he has not read any other books. There are hundreds of books available in the book stores and Islamic centres. I cannot provide links to bookshops.

So, Mahmood gets all his information from Ibne Asshaq, whose book does not even exist! And the most hilarious part is that Mahmood claims to have a copy of his the book.

I have never said that all the writers of Siras and Hadiths were fools. In my view, Ibn Ishaq, Ibn Hisham, Tabari, Ibn Sa'ad, Waqidi, Khudri and some others were ignorant fools, who heard tales from all sides and wrote them down.

And most of the works by these bloody fools were not really Seerahs. They did not sit down to write Prophet's biography.

To the polemicists, exists only one book and that is by Ibn Ishaq, whom I call Ibn Asshaq.

Can't these ignorant fools go and raed hundreds of other books, which are available?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#156852 Dec 29, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
You have not answered my questions. How do you know the names of Mohammad's wives when they are not mentioned in the Koran? You seem to engage in double standards. And who told you that he was born in 570, because that too is not in the Koran? Name a few books that you have read and I have not, so that I can get a hold of them.
See, you get sillier. I had already written:

"Mahmood,

You are also another fool.

Muhammad was born in 570 and died in 632. That is also not in Qur'aan. Do you have some other dates from the bloody fool Ibn Asshaq?

And you write another internet junkie remark "From what I understand, all this information comes to us from Ben Issac unless you have some other sources that no else is aware of.", which shows you have not read any other book.

By doing so, you make yourself look like a fool! What can I do, when I read such childish posts coming from adults? "

Now, in your own style, Who told you that Muhammad was not born in 570?

You have read only one book by Ibn Asshaq, which does not exist. Go and read other books. How come you have not been able to get some other books? Walk into any bookshop of repute or go the nearest Islamic centre. You can have dozens.

Please, stop asking me foolish questions.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#156853 Dec 29, 2012
Buford wrote:
CORRECTION:
Guess what? There is also no MENTION in the Gospel record that Jesus EVER shat or pissed, which MUST mean, by your unassailable "logic," that Jesus NEVER HAD TO EMPTY HIS BOWELS.
I am sure that Jesus peed, farted, belched, shat and made love like any other man. It does not have to be in the book. It is understood.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#156854 Dec 29, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>Braindead Muslim Zealot,

Why do you assume, quite stupidly, I might add, that because something is not explicitly mentioned in the Gospel record, that this constitutes proof that it didn't happen, EVER?
Guess what? There is also no mentiuon in the Gospel record that Jesus EVER shat or pissed, which MUST mean, by your unassailable "logic," that Jesus NEVER HAD TO EMPTY HIS BOWELS.
I have just confirmed that Jesus belched, farted, peed and shat. Surely he unloaded shit everyday. It is silly to expect that mentioned in the gospels, and you would have have thrown the gospels away, if the details were given that he peed and shat, while standing.

Such details are not important.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#156855 Dec 29, 2012
Buford wrote:
I need an answer from you. Did not ask for a silly link.

My question was:

Isn't the Father, a Male? Or do you think the Father is a she, I mean a female?

Why not a neuter gender?

Please try to answer in your own words.

I will extend some help here: The Father, according to Jesus, IS a MALE.

"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—the Spirit of truth."

Anyway, the word shows already that the Father is a confirmed MALE. If he were a Mother, Jesus would have said, " And I will ask the Mother, and she will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—the Spirit of truth."
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#156856 Dec 29, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
The point is simple, if you consider certain books tales, then as an adult like you claim to be, you should reject them, because they are but tale. Let me make you an example that I can bring you at the level where others are yet.
Which part of Cindarella's story is true?
Which part of Snow White's story is true?
Can you pick and choose the true there? No because they are all invented. And so is whatever book yu consider tale. The picking and choosing stories in tales in nonsense.
As for your job of picking and choosing, you believe that Muhammad loved dogs. Where did you get it from? Hadiths that you consider tales, right? How do you know tales tell truth if they are tales and such as they don't and there is nothing to verify the claim? You solved this issue by looking at Quran that never mention anything of that kind. Only because Quran report a story of a dog, and if the prophet hated dogs, he would not have mentioned them, this is what you said.
Aside the fact the Quran is the word of Allah and not Muhammad, thus anything written there came from Allah and whatever is the feeling or thought of your prophet about dogs couldnt have influenced Allah, right? But even if the Quran came from Muhammad, why he should not mentions of presence of a dog if it was there? Are you saying he's capable to omit stories?
That show pretty much what kind of ignorant fool you are.
<quoted text>
As explained before the Gospels are commonly called 'Gospel according to' which implies from Christians the awareness that the Gospels differ in certain things, but on important issues they all agree, or some in cases there is no contradiction but omission. By important issues I mean things like resurrection.
So when you point out a contradiction to show them something actually you are doing something that is known yet, passing therefore for ignorant fool. And as I said in the other posts what matter the most in the Gospels is the teaching of Jesus, or at least what is written he taught/said.
It is Cinderella.

The only point, which I consider worth mentioning is the following statement you made:

"And as I said in the other posts what matter the most in the Gospels is the teaching of Jesus, or at least what is written he taught/said.

Have you ever read the New Testament? What teaching? Teachings, which created massive confusions, that led to wild conjecture, formation of silly and absurd doctrines over centuries.
You call that teachings of Jesus?

Jesus preached God or the Trinity known as the Triune God? Can you answer this? If you say yes, then Jesus did not teach well and taught every damn thing wrong. How come you find that acceptable?

What were his last words? Were his last words the same? Or did he die three times and said different last words. How coem such absurdities are acceptable to you?

Here is the difference between the teaching of Muhammad and Jesus.

Muhammad preached and taught one God. Died and all believed in that one God. Nothing else.

Jesus preached and taught one God, whom he introduced as the Father in heaven, not as hos own father. Died and all were forced to believe in a Triune God.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#156857 Dec 29, 2012
Correction, Colonna

Jesus preached and taught one God, whom he introduced as the Father in heaven, not as his own father. Died and all were forced to believe in a Triune God.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#156858 Dec 29, 2012
bmz wrote:
I am sure that Jesus peed, farted, belched, shat and made love like any other man. It does not have to be in the book. It is understood.
And maybe, just maybe, the disciples prayed with Jesus or all on their own. It is understood, you blithering idiot.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#156859 Dec 29, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>Braindead Muslim Zealot,

Again you confirm that you believe whatever suits your fancy, proof be damned.
No! I talk through your gospels, Buford.

Jesus' disciples only believed him just before his sad demise or call it his passing away. Right? I know you will ask me why do I say that? I will tell you. This is from John:

"My Father sent me into the world. And now I will leave the world and go back to my Father.'

The disciples said to him,`Yes, now you are telling us plainly. You are not telling us with words we do not understand.

We know now that you know everything. No one needs to ask you questions. This makes us believe that God sent you.'

Jesus answered them,`Do you really believe now?

Listen, the time is coming. No, the time is here when you will run away. Every man will go to his own home. You will leave me on my own. And yet I am not alone, because my Father is with me."

The believers ran away! All free food munchers fled at the time he needed maximum support.

Am I wrong?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#156860 Dec 29, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>And maybe, just maybe, the disciples prayed with Jesus or all on their own. It is understood, you blithering idiot.
Wrong again!

Please read this gem from Luke 22, which supports my point!

" Jesus Prays on the Mount of Olives

39 Jesus went out as usual to the Mount of Olives, and his disciples followed him.

40 On reaching the place, he said to them,“Pray that you will not fall into temptation.”

41 He withdrew about a stone’s throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed, 42 “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” 43 An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. 44 And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.[b]

45 When he rose from prayer and went back to the disciples, he found them asleep, exhausted from sorrow.

46 “Why are you sleeping?” he asked them.

“Get up and pray so that you will not fall into temptation.”

YAWN! And off they went to sleep!
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#156862 Dec 29, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>And maybe, just maybe, the disciples prayed with Jesus or all on their own. It is understood, you blithering idiot.
I am very well read, Buford.

The blithering idiots were those, who wrote the books and the letters of the New Testament and those, who blithered, blabbered and babbled on the day at the pentecost.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#156863 Dec 30, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you people try and get a Quran forged?
That would solve "Most" of your problems with Muslims!!
If there were many Qur'aans written by men, such as Qur'aan, According to A, B, C,.....X, Y, Z, etc., or Falaan Bin Falaan, then they would have done it.

That is the reason, they cannot.

The gospels could be easily forged because those books were written by many. Although the Church fathers cherry-picked four off the streets, they had a tough time to reconcile and are still unable to fix the mess.

Salaams
BMZ

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#156874 Dec 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you ever read the New Testament? What teaching? Teachings, which created massive confusions, that led to wild conjecture, formation of silly and absurd doctrines over centuries.
You call that teachings of Jesus?
Then I am the one to wonder whether or not you have ever read the New Testament. Have you?
bmz wrote:
<quoted text> Jesus preached God or the Trinity known as the Triune God? Can you answer this? If you say yes, then Jesus did not teach well and taught every damn thing wrong. How come you find that acceptable?
According to the Gospel he never did that, nor he claim to be born out of a virgin, another silly thing that both Christianity and Islam believe.
bmz wrote:
<quoted text> What were his last words? Were his last words the same? Or did he die three times and said different last words. How coem such absurdities are acceptable to you?
Did I wrote for nothing all those posts about the differences in the Gospels? Go and see back.
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>Here is the difference between the teaching of Muhammad and Jesus.
Muhammad preached and taught one God. Died and all believed in that one God. Nothing else.
Jesus preached and taught one God, whom he introduced as the Father in heaven, not as hos own father. Died and all were forced to believe in a Triune God.
Actually you pointed out the differences between the two religion instead of the differences between their teachings, i.e. one god vs triune god. So you failed to prove your point. And for Christians, not all were forced to believe in Trinity, only few, to the rest it was taught it.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#156875 Dec 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
Wrong again!
Please read this gem from Luke 22, which supports my point!
" Jesus Prays on the Mount of Olives
39 Jesus went out as usual to the Mount of Olives, and his disciples followed him.
40 On reaching the place, he said to them,“Pray that you will not fall into temptation.”
41 He withdrew about a stone’s throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed, 42 “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” 43 An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. 44 And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.[b]
45 When he rose from prayer and went back to the disciples, he found them asleep, exhausted from sorrow.
46 “Why are you sleeping?” he asked them.
“Get up and pray so that you will not fall into temptation.”
YAWN! And off they went to sleep!
Braindead Muslim Zealot,

By your "logic," the disciples falling asleep one evening after a big meal instead of staying up to pray with Jesus PROVES that they were ALWAYS falling asleep and NEVER prayed at all, EVER.
swxxxt

Masontown, PA

#156876 Dec 30, 2012
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