Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 220681 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156267 Dec 18, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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It's not a big deal to not find any record of Pilate's life in Rome, although you can find him recorded on other documents.
For example it was found a latin inscription about Pilate in Judea, Caesarea Maritima, that says "S TIBERIÉUM PO]NTIUS PILATUS PRAEF]ECTUS IUDA[EA]E FECIT D]E[DICAVIT"
Translated into modern english means "...Tiberius, Pontius Pilate prefect of Judea has dedicated..." The rest was damage thus impossible for me to translated what it says before and after that.
Moreover there is a letter from King Herod Agrippa I (in Philo, Legatio to Caium, 38) describes Pilate as "relentless, without respect, stubborn".
Not to speak that in central Italy there are a lot of stories about him and about his death place, but since they are all oral tradition with no objective facts, I'll treat them as other oral tradition, thus of no historical value. So your point is totally pointless.
We know that there is no proof of the existence of Umar, Ali, Muhammad's wives ect. Does this mean they never existited? No, it does not mean anything, though it's strange and funny that Arabs have no recorded any relevant islamic figures on documents...
Of course Hadiths and oral traditions are of no value.
glugg...gluggg...Colonic Irrigation at full speed...
What is...Non crapitum suum januum
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156268 Dec 18, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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It's not a big deal to not find any record of Pilate's life in Rome, although you can find him recorded on other documents.

For example it was found a latin inscription about Pilate in Judea, Caesarea Maritima, that says "S TIBERIÉUM PO]NTIUS PILATUS PRAEF]ECTUS IUDA[EA]E FECIT D]E[DICAVIT"

Translated into modern english means "...Tiberius, Pontius Pilate prefect of Judea has dedicated..."

The rest was damage thus impossible for me to translated what it says before and after that.
Moreover there is a letter from King Herod Agrippa I (in Philo, Legatio to Caium, 38) describes Pilate as "relentless, without respect, stubborn".
Not to speak that in central Italy there are a lot of stories about him and about his death place, but since they are all oral tradition with no objective facts, I'll treat them as other oral tradition, thus of no historical value. So your point is totally pointless.
We know that there is no proof of the existence of Umar, Ali, Muhammad's wives ect. Does this mean they never existited? No, it does not mean anything, though it's strange and funny that Arabs have no recorded any relevant islamic figures on documents...
Of course Hadiths and oral traditions are of no value.
Once again, you just jumped in without even understanding my point.

I have read about that stone but it does not give any period of his governorship.

Do you have any record of Pilate in Roman archives? None, is the correct answer!

In his post # 156247, Buford wrote:

"The Gospel of Barnabas contains many gross errors of history and geography:-

• It says that Jesus was born when Pilate was governor of Judea"

This statement is based on Christianity's own Department of History. Pilate is only known through Christianity and her books.

It is said that the Romans kept records of everything and they were perfect in doing that. Where are those records, which talk about Pilate?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156274 Dec 18, 2012
* When a person who is full of Jesus dies, what happens?

Does the "Jesus" inside them "die again" or abandon the dead and run off back to the comforts of heaven to sit on Lord's right hand and watch the fun??
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#156277 Dec 18, 2012
Makesure100 wrote:
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Freakshow......you are full of hate...your buddies are full of hate. We Americans will not stand for a hatefull organization as yours. Die along the roadside..........
rabbee: and just what, organization do you fantacize i am in?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#156279 Dec 18, 2012
bmz wrote:
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Actually, all gospels contradict Qur'aan. Can't trust any of them.
Not only that but they also contradict each other. For example, the three synoptic gospels do not agree with anything that John says.
Please inform answering-islam.
rabbee: then according to their gospels, the quran can never be trusted either. and according to TheTorah, neither the quran, their gospels, nor new testament tanach, nor anyother writtings in this world, can be trusted. cause their world view, is all only make believe.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#156280 Dec 18, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
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This stroy of Jesus bringing back a person to life is borrowed from pagan mythology.
rabbee: why just becaise none of you, who don't even know my name. claim, you were not around then? even when you were born again here in TheTorah for this third Torot time. as you strain at a gnat, and miss all of your being resurrected thrice agains.

this is not, the first time me and this worlds grandmother, sarah faye ann carney, gave birth to all of you all precisely and accuratly again. and your grandmother sarah faye ann carney, is not the first mate, i have done this third or fourth resurrections with either.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156281 Dec 18, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: then according to their gospels, the quran can never be trusted either. and according to TheTorah, neither the quran, their gospels, nor new testament tanach, nor anyother writtings in this world, can be trusted. cause their world view, is all only make believe.
Who wrote your "TheTorah"?
"TheLiars" who deliberately turned "TheGOD" into "TheSlave" minigod of "TheNon-gentiles".
"ThePeriod"!
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#156282 Dec 18, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Who wrote it 20billion years ago? What about "word" who was with god who was "word" and who is now god or "word" nobody knows!!
Back to reality...
Cross is a death instrument...so are knives and guns.
If BJ was stabbed or shot will the lovely worshippers of BJ be wearing a "knife" or a "gun" round their necks with the Pope worshipping/blessing knives or guns?
Using a "cross" to mark a grave is the same as using a "knife" or a "gun" to mark a grave.
Both are death instruments.
How sick is that!!
*** Also when a person who is full of Jesus dies, what happens?
Does the "Jesus" inside them "die again" or abandon the dead and run off back to the comforts of heaven to sit on Lord's right hand and watch the fun??
rabbee: well then i guess your quran, does not tell how G-D always writes this and gives TheStoneTablets to Moshe on mt seeanee. every other time, G-D has always given this same story of creation.

and i can count the number of people, who actually get to visit HEAVEN of Heavens, without even taking my socks off. but since this is your third Torot time

where do you think you were, while you were waiting to be physically born again? if you wern't in HEAVEN of Heavens, you were not, here in your own rather hell on earth, and you were not sent into oblivion, what place is left for you to be stored, untill your next occurance here in TheTorah? while you are now here presently squandering away, your second physical resurrection.

i have seen this same happen, way too many times before. with way too many other thousands and thousands of grandmothers, and all of their grandchildren. where G-D is still, giving this same story of creation again. and you and they have all rejected being actually here in IT. so that eventually, G-D gives TheHisSon adam with another mate. and all of you, cease to exist, the very next time G-D gives this same story of creation again. as you all snuff out, you own eternal existance, with your believing in everything and everyone but G-D, here in TheTorah actually happening. with the only survivors, being the his direct lingage of Noach to Adam to Noach again.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#156283 Dec 18, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Who wrote your "TheTorah"?
"TheLiars" who deliberately turned "TheGOD" into "TheSlave" minigod of "TheNon-gentiles".
"ThePeriod"!
rabbee: check out the very next post, below your's. G-D'S story of creation here in it, has never changed, and neither do the answers to all you pagans of other g-ds.
Mahmood

Woodstock, Canada

#156284 Dec 18, 2012
bmz wrote:
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No.
There is no evidence of any pagan resurrecting anyone. No one takes myths and mythology seriously.
Jesus did exist, while the mythical characters did not.
The concept is borrowed from pagan mythology. Whether Jesus existed or not is a matter of debate since there is no hard evidence that he did. Pagans believed in those myths.

When did Abraham, Noah, Moses, Shoaib, Joseph live and die, do have the dates?
Mahmood

Woodstock, Canada

#156285 Dec 18, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: then according to their gospels, the quran can never be trusted either. and according to TheTorah, neither the quran, their gospels, nor new testament tanach, nor anyother writtings in this world, can be trusted. cause their world view, is all only make believe.
Agree, the Koran is not to be trusted. Ask a Mohammadan to produce a copy of Koran dating back to the time of Mohammmad or between the years of 610-710 AD, he wont be able to. The orignal manuscripts of the Koran have gone missing. Allah knows best what happened to them and yet when some kafir was wanting to burn the Korans, the Mohammadans had a hissy fit.

Tradition tells us that Caliph Osman burnt copies of the Koran. How far this is true, no one knows. No one can tell what he burnt, whether he burnt some chapters or verses that were meant to be in the Koran or not. The Koran we have today was edited back in 1924 and even to this day, I am told that there are variant readings of the Koran. We dont even know how much of the Koran was actually written by Mohammad.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156286 Dec 18, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well then i guess your quran, does not tell how G-D always writes this and gives TheStoneTablets to Moshe on mt seeanee. every other time, G-D has always given this same story of creation.
and i can count the number of people, who actually get to visit HEAVEN of Heavens, without even taking my socks off. but since this is your third Torot time
....
By the way, using your "Theminigod" and the millionth revised edition of "TheTorah" you are not going anywhere near TRUE God!

Who was the clumsy boy who broke the tablet, while other non gentiles were playing with golden calf?
All a bit suspect.

Let's look at the usual compulsive MURDER among Non-gentiles and MOSES:

Exodus 32:
19 When MOSES approached the camp and saw the calf and the dancing, HIS ANGER BURNED and HE THREW THE TABLETS out of his hands, BREAKING THEM TO PIECES at the FOOT OF THE MOUNTAIN.

20 And HE TOOK THE CALF they had made and BURNED IT in the fire; then HE GROUND IT TO POWDER, scattered it on the water and MADE the ISRAELITES DRINK IT.

21 He said to Aaron,“What did these people do to you, that you led them into such GREAT SIN?”

22“Do not be angry, my lord,” AARON ANSWERED.“YOU KNOW HOW PRONE THESE PEOPLE ARE to EVIL.

23 They said to me,‘Make us gods who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.’

24 So I told them,‘Whoever has any gold jewelry, take it off.’ Then they gave me the gold, and I threw it into the fire, and out came this calf!”(AARON IS BS...ING!!!)

25 Moses saw that the ISRAELITES RUNNING WILD and that Aaron(NETANYAHU?) had LET THEM GET OUT OF CONTROL and so become a LAUGHING STOCK their enemies.(STORY OF STOLEN PALESTINE OF TODAY!!!!)

26 So MOSES stood at the entrance to the camp and said,“Whoever is for the Lord, come to me.” And ALL THE LEVITES rallied to him.

27 Then he said to them (HE MADE IT UP??!!!),“This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says:‘EACH MAN STRAP A SWORD to his side. GO BACK and FORTH through the camp from one end to the other, EACH KILLING HIS BROTHER and FRIEND and NEIGHBOUR.(AS IT IS HAPPENING IN THE STOLEN TERROR STATE OF NON GENTILES)’”

28 The Levites did as Moses commanded, and THAT DAY ABOUT THREE THOUSAND (THIS NUMBER IS INTERESTING ...9/11..AND MORE!) of the PEOPLE DIED.

29 Then Moses said,“You have been set apart to the Lord today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day.(LOL....MADE IT UP?)”

30 The next day Moses said to the people,“You have committed a great sin. But now I will go up to the Lord; perhaps I can make atonement for your sin.”..(WHO SAW HIM SPEAK TO GOD???LOL...)

31 So Moses went back to the Lord and said,“Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold.

32But now, please forgive their sin—but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written.”

33 The Lord replied to Moses,“Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book.

34 Now go, lead the people to the place I spoke of, and my angel will go before you. However, when the time comes for me to punish, I will punish them for their sin.”
35And the Lord struck the ISRAELITES WITH a PLAGUE because of what they did with the calf Aaron had made.

(WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS GOD WHO IS NOW TURNED INTO THE MINI SLAVE GOD OF NON GENTILES?)

(NO CHANGE THERE..MURDER..MURDER..MURDER AND MORE MURDERS..
WORLD POPULATION WAS not a lot and they get3000 KILLED OFF...!!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156287 Dec 18, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: check out the very next post, below your's. G-D'S story of creation here in it, has never changed, and neither do the answers to all you pagans of other g-ds.
of course...the pagans of OTHER GODS must be UTTERLY DESTROYED as practised in the non-gentile terror state in the middle of palestine!!

They were kept under control in Europe until 1940's and now they are RUNNING WILD BACK TO THEIR MURDEROUS HABITS!!!

Exodus 22:20
He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be UTTERLY DESTROYED.

Exodus 23:24
You must not worship the gods of these nations or serve them in any way or imitate their evil practices. Instead, you must UTTERLY DESTROY THEM and SMASH their sacred pillars.

Deut 7:2
And when the LORD your God shall deliver them over to you; you shall strike them, and UTTERLY DESTROY THEM; you shall make no covenant with them, NOR SHOW MERCY unto them:

Deut 8:19
"But I assure you of this: If you ever forget the LORD your God and follow OTHER GODS, worshiping and bowing down to them, you will CERTAINLY BE DESTROYED.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#156288 Dec 18, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
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Agree, the Koran is not to be trusted. Ask a Mohammadan to produce a copy of Koran dating back to the time of Mohammmad or between the years of 610-710 AD, he wont be able to. The orignal manuscripts of the Koran have gone missing. Allah knows best what happened to them and yet when some kafir was wanting to burn the Korans, the Mohammadans had a hissy fit.
Tradition tells us that Caliph Osman burnt copies of the Koran. How far this is true, no one knows. No one can tell what he burnt, whether he burnt some chapters or verses that were meant to be in the Koran or not. The Koran we have today was edited back in 1924 and even to this day, I am told that there are variant readings of the Koran. We dont even know how much of the Koran was actually written by Mohammad.
rabbee: well from what i know, from TheG-D WHO came to visit with me here in TheTorah. did no come to visit me, here in any koran or quran. when THEY/BOTH came to tell me about this all again. and G-D knows ThisStory of Creation i am here in, even better than i even do now. and giving me with this bad feeling, that me and this woman, are this HaMosheeach, that even muslems have never been waiting for. but i am not going to accept this, unless G-D HIMSELVES tells me this is true. cause this world is a nightmare, to be placed in charge of again. why should i want to be, placed in charge of a bunch of rather be soggy critters in water again?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#156289 Dec 18, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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By the way, using your "Theminigod" and the millionth revised edition of "TheTorah" you are not going anywhere near TRUE God!
Who was the clumsy boy who broke the tablet, while other non gentiles were playing with golden calf?
All a bit suspect.
Let's look at the usual compulsive MURDER among Non-gentiles and MOSES:
Exodus 32:
19 When MOSES approached the camp and saw the calf and the dancing, HIS ANGER BURNED and HE THREW THE TABLETS out of his hands, BREAKING THEM TO PIECES at the FOOT OF THE MOUNTAIN.
20 And HE TOOK THE CALF they had made and BURNED IT in the fire; then HE GROUND IT TO POWDER, scattered it on the water and MADE the ISRAELITES DRINK IT.
21 He said to Aaron,“What did these people do to you, that you led them into such GREAT SIN?”
22“Do not be angry, my lord,” AARON ANSWERED.“YOU KNOW HOW PRONE THESE PEOPLE ARE to EVIL.
23 They said to me,‘Make us gods who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.’
24 So I told them,‘Whoever has any gold jewelry, take it off.’ Then they gave me the gold, and I threw it into the fire, and out came this calf!”(AARON IS BS...ING!!!)
25 Moses saw that the ISRAELITES RUNNING WILD and that Aaron(NETANYAHU?) had LET THEM GET OUT OF CONTROL and so become a LAUGHING STOCK their enemies.(STORY OF STOLEN PALESTINE OF TODAY!!!!)
26 So MOSES stood at the entrance to the camp and said,“Whoever is for the Lord, come to me.” And ALL THE LEVITES rallied to him.
27 Then he said to them (HE MADE IT UP??!!!),“This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says:‘EACH MAN STRAP A SWORD to his side. GO BACK and FORTH through the camp from one end to the other, EACH KILLING HIS BROTHER and FRIEND and NEIGHBOUR.(AS IT IS HAPPENING IN THE STOLEN TERROR STATE OF NON GENTILES)’”
28 The Levites did as Moses commanded, and THAT DAY ABOUT THREE THOUSAND (THIS NUMBER IS INTERESTING ...9/11..AND MORE!) of the PEOPLE DIED.
29 Then Moses said,“You have been set apart to the Lord today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day.(LOL....MADE IT UP?)”
30 The next day Moses said to the people,“You have committed a great sin. But now I will go up to the Lord; perhaps I can make atonement for your sin.”..(WHO SAW HIM SPEAK TO GOD???LOL...)
31 So Moses went back to the Lord and said,“Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold.
32But now, please forgive their sin—but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written.”
33 The Lord replied to Moses,“Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book.
(WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS GOD WHO IS NOW TURNED INTO THE MINI SLAVE GOD OF NON GENTILES?)
(NO CHANGE THERE..MURDER..MURDER..MURDER AND MORE MURDERS..
WORLD POPULATION WAS not a lot and they get3000 KILLED OFF...!!
rabbee: sorry i ain't talking, about any of that. i am talking about the part in TheTorah with me, being the only one here in IT again. your just using that, to avoid the subject of my actually being here in TheStory of Creation again. more or less, your refusal to admit over fourty thousand critters in syria today being struck down. for the sake of the idolitry, of your other so alleged as wonderful g-d/s.

or little kids and teachers, just reciently being struck down because of this nations idolitry of other g-d/s. at least we are not yet as bad off, as any pagan mulelms nation yet. even with the alleged as antichrist, actually here in this nation in the state of idaho. we are still doing better, than any muslem country is. and you all deserve a lot more hell and death.

and you all deserve a lot more hell and death. for helping this alleged antichrist, to decieve the grandmother of this world again. as you all help, send your grandchildren to a soggy grave again.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#156290 Dec 18, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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of course...the pagans of OTHER GODS must be UTTERLY DESTROYED as practised in the non-gentile terror state in the middle of palestine!!
They were kept under control in Europe until 1940's and now they are RUNNING WILD BACK TO THEIR MURDEROUS HABITS!!!
Exodus 22:20
He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be UTTERLY DESTROYED.
Exodus 23:24
You must not worship the gods of these nations or serve them in any way or imitate their evil practices. Instead, you must UTTERLY DESTROY THEM and SMASH their sacred pillars.
Deut 7:2
And when the LORD your God shall deliver them over to you; you shall strike them, and UTTERLY DESTROY THEM; you shall make no covenant with them, NOR SHOW MERCY unto them:
Deut 8:19
"But I assure you of this: If you ever forget the LORD your God and follow OTHER GODS, worshiping and bowing down to them, you will CERTAINLY BE DESTROYED.
rabbee: i am sorry, but you do not have the power, to destroy other g-d/s that G-D made. you do not even have the power to destroy the angels hasatan, baal hamolech, or halooseefer frequenting earth again today.

and if you cannot understand, being here in TheTorah today. then you shure are not about, to truly understand any of the yesteryears in IT already gone by. your error not not being here in it today, won't help you understand even what truly happened yesterday not here in it either. cause you are looking at everything, here in TheTorah wrongly. with your not being here in IT today.

you do not even understand today, here in TheStory of Creation again. why should i accept your even more wrongfull of yesterday in TheTorah, you only claim not to be here in? this is all of you and your grandmother third Torot time, here in TheTorah today. i should expect more from you here in IT, not increasinly less than the last two times.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#156300 Dec 18, 2012
bmz wrote:
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Once again, you just jumped in without even understanding my point.
I have read about that stone but it does not give any period of his governorship.
Do you have any record of Pilate in Roman archives? None, is the correct answer!
In his post # 156247, Buford wrote:
"The Gospel of Barnabas contains many gross errors of history and geography:-
• It says that Jesus was born when Pilate was governor of Judea"
This statement is based on Christianity's own Department of History. Pilate is only known through Christianity and her books.
It is said that the Romans kept records of everything and they were perfect in doing that. Where are those records, which talk about Pilate?
Rome did record a lot of things but didn't keep in record everything... such statement is silly and shouldn't be taken in consideration. Said this, has Julius Caesar ever existed? You may say yes, but in case you didn't know all the sources about him came long after his death, but no one today is gonna deny his existence.

As for Gospel of Barnabas, Buford only pointed out all the inconsistencies that that book has, because according to MUQ that Gospel is somehow authentic and or is very close to what happened to the Nazarene. Thus if Pilate never existed, that would be one more point for Buford over MUQ. You should argue with MUQ rather than with Buford.

Pilate was not just recorded by Christianity's own department of history but also by Jewish writers such as Philo and Josephus.

Since: Dec 12

UK

#156301 Dec 18, 2012
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#156305 Dec 18, 2012
Buford wrote:
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https://sites.google.com/site/christadelphian...
The Gospel of Barnabas contains many gross errors of history and geography:-
• It says that Jesus was born when Pilate was governor of Judea
• It tells us that Nazareth is a seaport and has Jesus sail there from Jerusalem
• It has Jesus preaching from the pinnacle of the Temple
• It describes Jesus as going UP to Capernaum from Nazareth
• It describes Elisha talking to the Pharisees, despite the centuries between them
• Similarly it has Hosea talking to Haggai
• It describes Herod as an infidel, whereas he was actually Jewish by religion
• It describes Summer as a time of fruit and harvest - In Israel it is too hot for these.
The Gospel of Barnabas also contains many anachronisms:
• It contains short quotations from Dante
• It describes the Jubilee as taking place every hundred yrs - correct in Catholic Italy and Spain but not in classical Judea
• The social environment is a mediaeval feudal system, not first century Palestine.
• It has wine stored in casks, not amphorae or wineskins
• Men wear "hosen", mediaeval leggings, rather than tunics and cloaks.
Origins of the Gospel of Barnabas
The manuscript of the Gospel of Barnabas was originally produced by one Mustafa of Aranda who had been forced to convert to Catholicism by the inquisition. He claimed to have translated it from a manuscript given to him by one Fra Marino, a person who was never produced. In view of the failings of the document, it is almost 99.9% certain that it was Mustafa of Aranda who invented the whole document as a way of getting at the Catholics who had forced him to convert. Certainly the language and history in it identifies southern Europe, and probably Spain, as the place of origin of the work.
Incidentally, did you know that the Qur‘an really does endorse the canonical Gospels?
Let the people of the Gospel (Injil) judge by what God has revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by what God hath revealed they are those who rebel.(Q 5:50)
If thou wert in any doubt as to what we have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book before thee (Q10:94)
see also Q5:46,47; 7:169,170; 40:69,70.
These passages are very clear in what they say. The Gospels were available at the time of Muhammad, and they were considered to be inspired by God. We know from manuscript evidence that the New Testament of the 7th century was the same as the current New Testament (and the Old Testament is similarly unchanged).
Our position regarding the Gospel of Barnabas is same as against "ANY" pf the old world's scriptures:

- We confirm the parts which Quran confirms

- We reject the parts which Quran rejects expressively.

- We keep silent where Quran is silent.

You did not read my introduction before I started quoting from GOB.

It is not 100 % reliable (no book in the world is for that matter, except Quran the Revealed Word of God), but most of its contents seem true.

It presents Jesus in the light in which he came. No exaggeration and very logical. It does explain most of the passages from the existing gospels, which are left hanging.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#156306 Dec 18, 2012
Excerpts from the Gospel of Barnabas, Part-10

Chapter 19 Jesus foretelleth his betrayal,

When Jesus had said this, Peter answered:'O teacher, behold we have felt all to follow thee, what shall become of us?' Jesus answered:'Verily ye in the day of judgment shall sit beside me, giving testimony against the twelve tribes of Israel.'

And having said this Jesus sighed, saying:'O Lord, what thing is this? for I have chosen twelve, and one of them is a devil.'

The disciples were sore grieved at this word; whereupon he who writeth secretly questioned Jesus with tears, saying:'O master, will Satan deceive me, and shall I then become reprobate?'

Jesus answered: "Be not sore grieved, Barnabas; for those whom God hath chosen before the creation of the world shall not perish. Rejoice, for thy name is written in the book of life.' Jesus comforted his disciples, saying:'Fear not, for he who shall hate me is not grieved at my saying, because in him is not the divine feeling.'

At his words the chosen were comforted. Jesus made his prayers, and his disciples said:'Amen, so be it, Lord God almighty and merciful.' Having finished his devotions,

Jesus came down from the mountain with his disciples, and met ten lepers, who from afar off cried out:'Jesus, son of David, have mercy on us!'…

Thereupon the disciples prayed Jesus, saying:
'Lord, have mercy upon them.' Then groaned Jesus and prayed to God, saying:'Lord God almighty and merciful, have mercy and hearken to the words of thy servant: and for love of Abraham our father and for thy holy covenant have mercy on the request of these men, and grant them health.'

Whereupon Jesus, having said this, turned himself to the lepers and said:'Go and show yourselves to the priests according to the law of God.'
The lepers departed and on the way were cleansed.

Whereupon one of them. seeing that he was healed, returned to find Jesus, and he was an Ishmaelite. And having found Jesus he bowed himself, doing reverence unto him, and saying:'Verily thou art an holy one of God' and with thanks he prayed him that he would receive him for servant.

Jesus answered:'Ten have been cleansed; where are the nine?'

Note: Miracle of ten Lepers is mentioned in John Ch.17

Chapter 20 Miracle on the sea wrought by Jesus, and Jesus declares where the prophet is received.

Jesus went to the sea of Galilee, and having embarked in a ship sailed to his city of Nazareth; whereupon there was a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was nigh unto sinking.

And Jesus was sleeping upon the prow of the ship. Then drew near to him his disciples, and awoke him, saying:'O master, save thyself, for we perish!' They were encompassed with very great fear, by reason of the great wind that was contrary and the roaring of the sea.

Jesus arose, and raising his eyes to heaven, said:'O Elohim Sabaoth, have mercy upon thy servants.' Then, when Jesus had said this, suddenly the wind ceased, and the sea became calm. Wherefore the seamen feared, saying:'And who is this, that the sea and the wind obey him?" …

Jesus answered:'This faithless generation seek a sign, but it shall not be given them, because no prophet is received in his own country. In the time of Elijah there were many widows in Judaea, but he was not sent to be nourished save unto a widow of Sidon. Many were the lepers in the time of Elisha in Judaea; nevertheless only Naaman the Syrian was cleansed.'

Then were the citizens enraged and seized him and carried him on to the top of a precipice to cast him down. But Jesus walking through the midst of them, departed from them.

Note: This Miracle is also mentioned in Mat. Ch.8, Mk. Ch4 & Lu. Ch 6 (MUQ)

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