Who Is Allah?

There are 220212 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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jesus is

Blacktown, Australia

#156236 Dec 17, 2012
The Muslim scholar Cyril Glassι states:

'As regards the "Gospel of Barnabas" itself, there is no question that it is a medieval forgery. A complete Italian manuscript exists which appears to be a translation from a Spanish original (which exists in part), written to curry favor with Muslims of the time. It contains anachronisms which can date only from the Middle Ages and not before, and shows a garbled comprehension of Islamic doctrines, calling the Prophet "the Messiah", which Islam does not claim for him. Besides its farcical notion of sacred history, stylistically it is a mediocre parody of the Gospels, as the writings of Baha'Allah are of the Koran.'
The Concise Encyclopedia of Islam, Harper & Row, 1989, p. 64
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156239 Dec 18, 2012
Altruist wrote:
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And similarly, those of us for whom faith lies in Jesus Christ are not worshiping the creation but the creator. He who descended upon mankind as a son of man, sent by the divine father to save us all. Many turn away from him, but come the end of days when our Lord shall return, all on this plane will seek repentance and bask in his divinity. He is the light upon this realm of darkness.
I pray for you to discard the wickedness of Islam and Allah, and take refuge in our father. The god of Israel.
Wicked generations of wicked men turned Jesus, the son of Mary into the son of God and finally God. The liars did not stop at that.

On top of that, the wicked men lied through their teeth and came up with an abomination, an absurdity and a monstrosity, known as Trinity or the Triune God, another big lie.

Nothing can be more absurd and wicked than this. So, we do not look forward to Jesus or the fake Christian God, a God that does not exist.

To us, Jesus was a messenger of God. He is dead, dust and bones. Let him rest in peace, please.

If he had to return, the best time to return was to come flying in before the death of his disciples and all, who killed him. What is the use of coming again?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156241 Dec 18, 2012
MUQ wrote:
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Has any one heard about this "Muslim" Scholar Cyril Glasse?
The name itself sound like a Non Muslim.
Or he could a "Muslim Scholar" like we have Mr. Mahmood on this thread!!
I doubt if any "Muslim" could Write a Gospel like Gospel of Barnabas and then insert it into Christian Church and let it lie there for centuries, lest some one "find" it by chance.
These people "leave their brain on book shelf" when they start writing such things!!
And that is a quality of "Such Experts"!!
Look at the posts of our "Scholar" Mr. Mahmood if you want to see a good example of expert.
Not really an scholar of Islam:

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features...
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156242 Dec 18, 2012
MUQ wrote:
PS:
And I hardly find any one who has to comment on the "contents" of Gospel of Barnabas,
Agree.

The majority of Christians has not even read the four gospels, so we cannot expect them to have read GOB.

Only the well-read can comment but we don't have any here. The ones, we have here, can only write 2-3 off-topic liners.

Salaams
BMZ
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156243 Dec 18, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
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Howcome all these fantastic miracles occured 2000 years ago? Why hasn't anyone been able bring back to life a dead person in the last 50 years or so?
Because there are no more prophets. Miracles were only shown through them to the men of the distant past. No one has been able to bring back a dead person to life, after Jesus was gone. I think he showed one miracle on this subject by the power of God working behind him. On his own, he could not do anything.
jesus is

Blacktown, Australia

#156244 Dec 18, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Has any one heard about this "Muslim" Scholar Cyril Glasse?
The name itself sound like a Non Muslim.
Or he could a "Muslim Scholar" like we have Mr. Mahmood on this thread!!
I doubt if any "Muslim" could Write a Gospel like Gospel of Barnabas and then insert it into Christian Church and let it lie there for centuries, lest some one "find" it by chance.
These people "leave their brain on book shelf" when they start writing such things!!
And that is a quality of "Such Experts"!!
Look at the posts of our "Scholar" Mr. Mahmood if you want to see a good example of expert.
DO YOU THINK THE GOSPEL IS AUTHENTIC DO YOU?
Even though it contradicts the Quran:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Barnabas/contr...
jesus is

Blacktown, Australia

#156245 Dec 18, 2012
THE GOSPEL OF BARNABAS CLAIMS THAT:
Jesus sailed across the Sea of Galilee to Nazareth. The city of Nazareth is an inland city.

This false book also claims that Jesus was born during the rule of Pontius Pilate, which began after the year 26 A.D.

In chapter 22, this false Gospel talks of wine being stored in wooden casks, as characteristic of Gaul and Northern Italy. There were no oak or three fit for such storage in Israel. Thats why they used wine skins and jars.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156246 Dec 18, 2012
jesus is wrote:
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DO YOU THINK THE GOSPEL IS AUTHENTIC DO YOU?
Even though it contradicts the Quran:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Barnabas/contr...
Actually, all gospels contradict Qur'aan. Can't trust any of them.

Not only that but they also contradict each other. For example, the three synoptic gospels do not agree with anything that John says.

Please inform answering-islam.
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#156247 Dec 18, 2012
MUQ wrote:
PS:
And I hardly find any one who has to comment on the "contents" of Gospel of Barnabas,
https://sites.google.com/site/christadelphian...

The Gospel of Barnabas contains many gross errors of history and geography:-

• It says that Jesus was born when Pilate was governor of Judea
• It tells us that Nazareth is a seaport and has Jesus sail there from Jerusalem
• It has Jesus preaching from the pinnacle of the Temple
• It describes Jesus as going UP to Capernaum from Nazareth
• It describes Elisha talking to the Pharisees, despite the centuries between them
• Similarly it has Hosea talking to Haggai
• It describes Herod as an infidel, whereas he was actually Jewish by religion
• It describes Summer as a time of fruit and harvest - In Israel it is too hot for these.

The Gospel of Barnabas also contains many anachronisms:

• It contains short quotations from Dante
• It describes the Jubilee as taking place every hundred yrs - correct in Catholic Italy and Spain but not in classical Judea
• The social environment is a mediaeval feudal system, not first century Palestine.
• It has wine stored in casks, not amphorae or wineskins
• Men wear "hosen", mediaeval leggings, rather than tunics and cloaks.

Origins of the Gospel of Barnabas

The manuscript of the Gospel of Barnabas was originally produced by one Mustafa of Aranda who had been forced to convert to Catholicism by the inquisition. He claimed to have translated it from a manuscript given to him by one Fra Marino, a person who was never produced. In view of the failings of the document, it is almost 99.9% certain that it was Mustafa of Aranda who invented the whole document as a way of getting at the Catholics who had forced him to convert. Certainly the language and history in it identifies southern Europe, and probably Spain, as the place of origin of the work.

Incidentally, did you know that the Qur‘an really does endorse the canonical Gospels?

Let the people of the Gospel (Injil) judge by what God has revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by what God hath revealed they are those who rebel.(Q 5:50)

If thou wert in any doubt as to what we have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book before thee (Q10:94)
see also Q5:46,47; 7:169,170; 40:69,70.

These passages are very clear in what they say. The Gospels were available at the time of Muhammad, and they were considered to be inspired by God. We know from manuscript evidence that the New Testament of the 7th century was the same as the current New Testament (and the Old Testament is similarly unchanged).
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#156248 Dec 18, 2012
bmz wrote:
Agree.
The majority of Christians has not even read the four gospels, so we cannot expect them to have read GOB.
Only the well-read can comment but we don't have any here. The ones, we have here, can only write 2-3 off-topic liners.
Salaams
BMZ
You're an arrogant and willfully ignorant fool.

How's that for an on-topic one-liner?
Mahmood

Mississauga, Canada

#156249 Dec 18, 2012
bmz wrote:
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Because there are no more prophets. Miracles were only shown through them to the men of the distant past. No one has been able to bring back a dead person to life, after Jesus was gone. I think he showed one miracle on this subject by the power of God working behind him. On his own, he could not do anything.
This stroy of Jesus bringing back a person to life is borrowed from pagan mythology.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156250 Dec 18, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
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This stroy of Jesus bringing back a person to life is borrowed from pagan mythology.
No.

There is no evidence of any pagan resurrecting anyone. No one takes myths and mythology seriously.

Jesus did exist, while the mythical characters did not.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156251 Dec 18, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an arrogant and willfully ignorant fool.
How's that for an on-topic one-liner?
Wasn't great at all. Not impressed.

Still off-topic!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156252 Dec 18, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
There is no evidence of any pagan resurrecting anyone. No one takes myths and mythology seriously.
Jesus did exist, while the mythical characters did not.
lol....
If not for Islam 2billion more people will be drawing cartoons of a naked man klilled off by non-gentiles!
It takes us to defend his existence and the DIGNITY of both his mother and him!
Salaams.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156254 Dec 18, 2012
Buford wrote:
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You're an arrogant and willfully ignorant fool.
How's that for an on-topic one-liner?
hey uneducated village idiot carpenter...
are you gentile or non gentile today?
lol..
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156255 Dec 18, 2012
Buford wrote:
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https://sites.google.com/site/christadelphian...
The Gospel of Barnabas contains many gross errors of history and geography:-
• It says that Jesus was born when Pilate was governor of Judea
• It tells us that Nazareth is a seaport and has Jesus sail there from Jerusalem
• It has Jesus preaching from the pinnacle of the Temple
• It describes Jesus as going UP to Capernaum from Nazareth
• It describes Elisha talking to the Pharisees, despite the centuries between them
• Similarly it has Hosea talking to Haggai
• It describes Herod as an infidel, whereas he was actually Jewish by religion
• It describes Summer as a time of fruit and harvest - In Israel it is too hot for these.
The Gospel of Barnabas also contains many anachronisms:
• It contains short quotations from Dante
• It describes the Jubilee as taking place every hundred yrs - correct in Catholic Italy and Spain but not in classical Judea
• The social environment is a mediaeval feudal system, not first century Palestine.
• It has wine stored in casks, not amphorae or wineskins
• Men wear "hosen", mediaeval leggings, rather than tunics and cloaks.
Origins of the Gospel of Barnabas
The manuscript of the Gospel of Barnabas was originally produced by one Mustafa of Aranda who had been forced to convert to Catholicism by the inquisition. He claimed to have translated it from a manuscript given to him by one Fra Marino, a person who was never produced. In view of the failings of the document, it is almost 99.9% certain that it was Mustafa of Aranda who invented the whole document as a way of getting at the Catholics who had forced him to convert. Certainly the language and history in it identifies southern Europe, and probably Spain, as the place of origin of the work.
Incidentally, did you know that the Qur‘an really does endorse the canonical Gospels?
Let the people of the Gospel (Injil) judge by what God has revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by what God hath revealed they are those who rebel.(Q 5:50)
If thou wert in any doubt as to what we have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book before thee (Q10:94)
see also Q5:46,47; 7:169,170; 40:69,70.
These passages are very clear in what they say. The Gospels were available at the time of Muhammad, and they were considered to be inspired by God. We know from manuscript evidence that the New Testament of the 7th century was the same as the current New Testament (and the Old Testament is similarly unchanged).
Forget it. All gospels are not reliable.

An example:

John says Jesus carried his cross, while the other three gospels say that Simon carried the cross.

The point is that gospel accounts cannot be trusted.

It is strange and funny to note that while Rome has no records on Pilate's life, only Christianity has bits and pieces through the gospels.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156256 Dec 18, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
lol....
If not for Islam 2billion more people will be drawing cartoons of a naked man klilled off by non-gentiles!
It takes us to defend his existence and the DIGNITY of both his mother and him!
Salaams.
Indeed!

Thanks, bro.

Salaams
BMZ
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156257 Dec 18, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: TheTorah is over, 20billion years old. so i do not see, how your lie can call it modern, in any sense of your evil imagination.
and it's still the same story G-D, is giving with all of us actually here in IT again. and all you talking critters can do, is make it worse here in IT for everyone else.
and i have no doubt, that your an idolitor. and G-D has actually paid me, with more visits than you have. even the three wise men, have paid me with more visits than you.
Who wrote it 20billion years ago? What about "word" who was with god who was "word" and who is now god or "word" nobody knows!!

Back to reality...
Cross is a death instrument...so are knives and guns.

If BJ was stabbed or shot will the lovely worshippers of BJ be wearing a "knife" or a "gun" round their necks with the Pope worshipping/blessing knives or guns?

Using a "cross" to mark a grave is the same as using a "knife" or a "gun" to mark a grave.

Both are death instruments.

How sick is that!!

*** Also when a person who is full of Jesus dies, what happens?

Does the "Jesus" inside them "die again" or abandon the dead and run off back to the comforts of heaven to sit on Lord's right hand and watch the fun??

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#156265 Dec 18, 2012
bmz wrote:
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The point is that gospel accounts cannot be trusted.
It is strange and funny to note that while Rome has no records on Pilate's life, only Christianity has bits and pieces through the gospels.
It's not a big deal to not find any record of Pilate's life in Rome, although you can find him recorded on other documents.

For example it was found a latin inscription about Pilate in Judea, Caesarea Maritima, that says "S TIBERIΙUM PO]NTIUS PILATUS PRAEF]ECTUS IUDA[EA]E FECIT D]E[DICAVIT"

Translated into modern english means "...Tiberius, Pontius Pilate prefect of Judea has dedicated..." The rest was damage thus impossible for me to translated what it says before and after that.

Moreover there is a letter from King Herod Agrippa I (in Philo, Legatio to Caium, 38) describes Pilate as "relentless, without respect, stubborn".

Not to speak that in central Italy there are a lot of stories about him and about his death place, but since they are all oral tradition with no objective facts, I'll treat them as other oral tradition, thus of no historical value. So your point is totally pointless.

We know that there is no proof of the existence of Umar, Ali, Muhammad's wives ect. Does this mean they never existited? No, it does not mean anything, though it's strange and funny that Arabs have no recorded any relevant islamic figures on documents...

Of course Hadiths and oral traditions are of no value.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156266 Dec 18, 2012
bmz wrote:
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Forget it. All gospels are not reliable.
An example:
John says Jesus carried his cross, while the other three gospels say that Simon carried the cross.
The point is that gospel accounts cannot be trusted.
It is strange and funny to note that while Rome has no records on Pilate's life, only Christianity has bits and pieces through the gospels.
Who carried the cross?
It is time we reminded the readers!!
lol...
FROM 1:19:55..........lol

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