Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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It' the season to look for "god" dear "catholic" non-gentile bu(ttturdlick)tard, stop licking and point out your "god" from this list or the three that make up the invincible (or invisible?)trinity:

A) Name that "Trinity in Unity" or Name that "T(ri)une in One" by pointing out the three "components".
They have been numbered so you can pick the THREE very easily:

1- father of son of "GOD"
2- father of son of "god the father"
3- ghost of father of son of "GOD"
4- ghost of father of son of "god the father"
5- spirit of father of son of "GOD"
6- spirit of father of son of "god the father"
7- son of man (son of Adam)
8- son of man (son of David)
9- son of man (son of Joseph)
10- son of "GOD" (who encompasses god the father)
11- son of "god the father" (who is part of GOD)
12- son of god the holy spirit (who is part of GOD)
13- son of god the holy ghost (who is part of GOD)
14- ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
15- ghost of son of man (son of David)
16- ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
17- ghost of son of "GOD"
18- ghost of son of "god the father"
19- ghost of son of "god the holy spirit"
20- ghost of son of "god the holy ghost"
21- spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
22- spirit of son of man (son of David)
23- spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
24- spirit of son of "GOD"
25- spirit of son of "god the father"
26- spirit of son of "god the holy spirit"
27- spirit of son of "god the holy ghost"
28- ghost of spirit of father of son of "GOD"
29- ghost of spirit of father of son of "god the father"
30- ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
31- ghost of spirit of son of man (son of David)
32- ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
33- ghost of spirit of son of "GOD"
34- ghost of spirit of son of "god the father"
35- ghost of spirit of son of god the holy spirit
36- ghost of spirit of son of god the holy ghost
37- spirit of ghost father of son of "GOD"
38- spirit of ghost of father of son of "god the father"
39- spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
40- spirit of ghost of son of man (son of David)
41- spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
42- spirit of ghost of son of "GOD"
43- spirit of ghost of son of "god the father"
44- spirit of ghost of son of god the holy spirit
45- spirit of ghost of son of god the holy ghost
46- "Risen" Jesus
47- "Risen" son of man (son of Adam)
48- "Risen" son of man (son of David)
49- "Risen" son of man (son of Joseph)
50- "Risen" son of "God"
51- "Risen" son of "god the father"
52- "Risen" son of "god the holy spirit"
53- "Risen" son of "god the holy ghost"
54- "Lord" of St Paul
55- "Christ" of St Paul
56- Millions of "Jesus" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
57- Millions of "Holy Spirits" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
58- Millions of "Holy Ghosts" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
59- The Jesus in heaven sitting on his own right hand watching himself VINDICTIVELY making footstool of enemies.
60- ALL of the above?
61- NONE of the above?
62- Any more to be added to the above?

B) Show in the NT where Jesus claims divinity as follows:
"I AM JESUS. I AM YOUR GOD WHO HAS COME TO EARTH IN HUMAN FORM AS MY ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO DIE WILLINGLY IN THE HANDS OF JEWS, FOR THE SINS OF GENTILES AS WELL AS THE ISRAELITES ON A roman CROSS, WHO WILL BE SAVED FOREVER & HAVE ETERNAL LIFE WHEN THEY ACCEPT MY SACRIFICE ON THEIR BEHALF when I go back up to sit on my own right hand to make foot stool of my enemies. I EXPECT NOTHING IN RETURN"
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HughBe wrote:
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Was Joseph's Egyptian wife a CONVERT?
Recall, she had TWO tribes of Israel, Manasseh and Ephraim. Yes these TWO TRIBES of Israel had an EGYTIAN mother.
This clearly exposes the LIES of man-made doctrine about mothers i.e. they determine if you are an Israelite. Wake-up, seed of Israel.
Oh Joseph's wife's father was a PAGAN priest. "daughter of Potipherah priest of On " So what would be his daughter?
Also, no converts here "And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
14 And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her."
Tell me, who would CONVERT under these conditions and in 30 days or ONE month? NOBODY!!! ONLY a DECEIVER and a LIAR would suggest otherwise.
Thank you HughBe.
There is no effrot to convert for the sake of God.
Conversion here is of convenience and domination.
This also goes to strengthen my claim about the "hijack" of titles using "god" as excuse!
From...Abraham to Isaac..instead of Ishmael...from Isaac to Jacob instead of Esau...and worst of all...from Jacob to Judah instead of other 11 including Joseph!!
Good old Judah, the father of those who finalised the books long after Moses!
Why should they convert?
They think that all others are not worth converting.
The coach to heaven is full accoding to thme!!!!
They have limited God's mercy on creation by limiting the ringside tickets to 12x12000 judah boys!!
Peace.
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Dec 8, 2012
 
Buford wrote:
Jesus is the word of God, not (as Muslims generally teach) in the sense that he was created by divine fiat, by the word of God, but in the sense that he is the one who expresses the mind and will of God most fully to men. Through Jesus, God has spoken and acted in a unique way.(Chapman, You Go and Do the Same, p. 81).
If Christ were a Word of God, it would be clear that He was only one expression of God's will; but since God Himself calls Him "the Word of God", it is clear that He must be the one and only perfect expression of God's will, and the only perfect manifestation of God.(Zwemer, The Muslim Christ, p. 37).
The Qur'an says no more of Adam than that "he learnt from his Lord words of inspiration" (Surah 2.37), that is, the kalimaat were sent down mir-rabbihi, "from his Lord", but in the case of Jesus it is said that he himself is the kalimatullah, the "Word of God". As there is, nonetheless, no explanation of the title in the Qur'an, we shall have to turn, as we did with the title Al-Masih, to the Christian Bible to find its real meaning and see how it can be used as a typical point of agreement between Christians and Muslims upon which a Gospel witness can be based.
BJ the non-gentile was hiding most of the time! He never claimed divinity. He was a Prophet with useless disciples and no followers!
Nearly 30 year out of his 33 year life have been wiped off because they show he was a noraml man!

The Gentile Christ marketed by non-gentile pharisee paul is a different person!

The myth of Gentile Christ is harming Jesus the non Gentile Prophet who never wanted worship or divinity.

A con trick was played by anti-gentiles to hook "sinning" gentiles.

This is sad, because non-gentiles don't believe in a "mangod" dying for the original sin of man...!

The non-gentiles have sold to the poor naive GENTILE Christians the idea that they are "born sinners" confirming the non-gentile belief that gentiles are sinners!!!

Wake up Gentile Christians...throw away the non-gentile books!
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bmz wrote:
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Rabbee,
Please tell me what keeps on forcing to write G-d? Would God be angry and furious, if you wrote God?
You know jolly well that even God is no name. Right?
rabbee: well first of all it's G-D not G-d. they, have totaly different meanings. as i do not consider your g-d/s and my G-D as the same G-d.
and G-D already knows, how sentimental i am about TheBOTH of HIM. and nothing or nobody is forcing me, to write G-D with special meaning to me. none of you accept my G-D. so why should i fill it out for you, who don't even want to know TheBOTH of HIM?
IT also Means G-D, is giving TheTorah to even you who claim not to be here in IT. IT also means you have no Love, for TheG-D of Creation here in IT.
i have been through, this before with other idiots. Who don't know that a title, like dr, rabbee is associated with the names. nor do i want to write G-D, in the same manner as all your fake other g-d/s. and i do not even want, you to mistake your g-d's as the same as mine. no divided house can be worshiping, TheSame G-D of Creation here in IT as i do.
this world has more g-d/s, than carter has little liver pills. there ain't no religion here on earth, that is worshiping TheSame G-D, as i do. TheSame G-D of Noach, Avraham, Yeetzak, Yaachov, Moshe, Shlomoh, Adam to adam and his mate in that order here again in TheTorah Happening. and when G-D gives IT again, it shall still be in this exact same precise order.
it is all extreemly predictible, from Noach in day one, to adam and his mate to be placed in charge for day seven. no matter how many of you, mentally ill gravy sucking clowns. mentally only decide to not be here in IT.
i already know what is going to happen, when HaShem G-D returns from the day of rest.cause this world is mentally sick, and refuses to accept it. with the world feeding the beast, all the way to adolph hitler and beyond again. the titanic has been sunk, ao many times i quit counting.
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Is Jesus God?
rabbee: well we won't find that out, untill the last second of the end of day six. when apparently you discover, Their Name ain't jesus. so you cannot trick me into, saying any fake name is going to be your G-d for the last day.
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Is Jesus God?
rabbee: yes for the christians.
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It' the season to look for "god" dear "catholic" non-gentile bu(ttturdlick)tard, stop licking and point out your "god" from this list or the three that make up the invincible (or invisible?)trinity:
A) Name that "Trinity in Unity" or Name that "T(ri)une in One" by pointing out the three "components".
They have been numbered so you can pick the THREE very easily:
1- father of son of "GOD"
2- father of son of "god the father"
3- ghost of father of son of "GOD"
4- ghost of father of son of "god the father"
5- spirit of father of son of "GOD"
6- spirit of father of son of "god the father"
7- son of man (son of Adam)
8- son of man (son of David)
9- son of man (son of Joseph)
10- son of "GOD" (who encompasses god the father)
11- son of "god the father" (who is part of GOD)
12- son of god the holy spirit (who is part of GOD)
13- son of god the holy ghost (who is part of GOD)
14- ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
15- ghost of son of man (son of David)
16- ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
17- ghost of son of "GOD"
18- ghost of son of "god the father"
19- ghost of son of "god the holy spirit"
20- ghost of son of "god the holy ghost"
21- spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
22- spirit of son of man (son of David)
23- spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
24- spirit of son of "GOD"
25- spirit of son of "god the father"
26- spirit of son of "god the holy spirit"
27- spirit of son of "god the holy ghost"
28- ghost of spirit of father of son of "GOD"
29- ghost of spirit of father of son of "god the father"
30- ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
31- ghost of spirit of son of man (son of David)
32- ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
33- ghost of spirit of son of "GOD"
34- ghost of spirit of son of "god the father"
35- ghost of spirit of son of god the holy spirit
36- ghost of spirit of son of god the holy ghost
37- spirit of ghost father of son of "GOD"
38- spirit of ghost of father of son of "god the father"
39- spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
40- spirit of ghost of son of man (son of David)
41- spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
42- spirit of ghost of son of "GOD"
43- spirit of ghost of son of "god the father"
44- spirit of ghost of son of god the holy spirit
45- spirit of ghost of son of god the holy ghost
46- "Risen" Jesus
47- "Risen" son of man (son of Adam)
48- "Risen" son of man (son of David)
49- "Risen" son of man (son of Joseph)
50- "Risen" son of "God"
51- "Risen" son of "god the father"
52- "Risen" son of "god the holy spirit"
53- "Risen" son of "god the holy ghost"
54- "Lord" of St Paul
55- "Christ" of St Paul
56- Millions of "Jesus" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
57- Millions of "Holy Spirits" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
58- Millions of "Holy Ghosts" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
59- The Jesus in heaven sitting on his own right hand watching himself VINDICTIVELY making footstool of enemies.
60- ALL of the above?
61- NONE of the above?
62- Any more to be added to the above?
B) Show in the NT where Jesus claims divinity as follows:
"I AM JESUS. I AM YOUR GOD WHO HAS COME TO EARTH IN HUMAN FORM AS MY ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO DIE WILLINGLY IN THE HANDS OF JEWS, FOR THE SINS OF GENTILES AS WELL AS THE ISRAELITES ON A roman CROSS, WHO WILL BE SAVED FOREVER & HAVE ETERNAL LIFE WHEN THEY ACCEPT MY SACRIFICE ON THEIR BEHALF when I go back up to sit on my own right hand to make foot stool of my enemies. I EXPECT NOTHING IN RETURN"
George,

Take your meds.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: yes for the christians.
madmood sayd his wife is christian but she thinks jesus is not god. she does not believe in trinity either.
help him!!!

who is your god...? do you not accept jesus?
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Dec 8, 2012
 
Buford wrote:
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George,
Take your meds.
wrong answer dear non-gentile bu(ttturdlick)ford..
Try again.......
It's the season to look for "god" dear "catholic" non-gentile bu(ttturdlick)tard, stop licking and point out your "god" from this list or the three that make up the invincible (or invisible?)trinity:
A) Name that "Trinity in Unity" or Name that "T(ri)une in One" by pointing out the three "components".
They have been numbered so you can pick the THREE very easily:
1- father of son of "GOD"
2- father of son of "god the father"
3- ghost of father of son of "GOD"
4- ghost of father of son of "god the father"
5- spirit of father of son of "GOD"
6- spirit of father of son of "god the father"
7- son of man (son of Adam)
8- son of man (son of David)
9- son of man (son of Joseph)
10- son of "GOD" (who encompasses god the father)
11- son of "god the father" (who is part of GOD)
12- son of god the holy spirit (who is part of GOD)
13- son of god the holy ghost (who is part of GOD)
14- ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
15- ghost of son of man (son of David)
16- ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
17- ghost of son of "GOD"
18- ghost of son of "god the father"
19- ghost of son of "god the holy spirit"
20- ghost of son of "god the holy ghost"
21- spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
22- spirit of son of man (son of David)
23- spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
24- spirit of son of "GOD"
25- spirit of son of "god the father"
26- spirit of son of "god the holy spirit"
27- spirit of son of "god the holy ghost"
28- ghost of spirit of father of son of "GOD"
29- ghost of spirit of father of son of "god the father"
30- ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
31- ghost of spirit of son of man (son of David)
32- ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
33- ghost of spirit of son of "GOD"
34- ghost of spirit of son of "god the father"
35- ghost of spirit of son of god the holy spirit
36- ghost of spirit of son of god the holy ghost
37- spirit of ghost father of son of "GOD"
38- spirit of ghost of father of son of "god the father"
39- spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
40- spirit of ghost of son of man (son of David)
41- spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
42- spirit of ghost of son of "GOD"
43- spirit of ghost of son of "god the father"
44- spirit of ghost of son of god the holy spirit
45- spirit of ghost of son of god the holy ghost
46- "Risen" Jesus
47- "Risen" son of man (son of Adam)
48- "Risen" son of man (son of David)
49- "Risen" son of man (son of Joseph)
50- "Risen" son of "God"
51- "Risen" son of "god the father"
52- "Risen" son of "god the holy spirit"
53- "Risen" son of "god the holy ghost"
54- "Lord" of St Paul
55- "Christ" of St Paul
56- Millions of "Jesus" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
57- Millions of "Holy Spirits" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
58- Millions of "Holy Ghosts" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
59- The Jesus in heaven sitting on his own right hand watching himself VINDICTIVELY making footstool of enemies.
60- ALL of the above?
61- NONE of the above?
62- Any more to be added to the above?
B) Show in the NT where Jesus claims divinity as follows:
"I AM JESUS. I AM YOUR GOD WHO HAS COME TO EARTH IN HUMAN FORM AS MY ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO DIE WILLINGLY IN THE HANDS OF JEWS, FOR THE SINS OF GENTILES AS WELL AS THE ISRAELITES ON A roman CROSS, WHO WILL BE SAVED FOREVER & HAVE ETERNAL LIFE WHEN THEY ACCEPT MY SACRIFICE ON THEIR BEHALF when I go back up to sit on my own right hand to make foot stool of my enemies. I EXPECT NOTHING IN RETURN"
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rabbee: well we won't find that out, untill the last second of the end of day six. when apparently you discover, Their Name ain't jesus. so you cannot trick me into, saying any fake name is going to be your G-d for the last day.
Is my next door neighbour god?
he says he is like a good shepherd..he says he likes to die as his father likes him because he likes to give his life wilingly..
what do you think?
i think he is a nutcase
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Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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madmood sayd his wife is christian but she thinks jesus is not god. she does not believe in trinity either.
help him!!!
who is your god...? do you not accept jesus?
Thats right, she does not consider Jesus as god and unlike you and I, she has not a bad word to say about any religion.
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Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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They do generally end up showing traits of mangod worshippers.
They are more bothered about karbala and hero worship than actually looking at Allah and Islam.
Hassan Hussein although are precious, are not in the script!
There is no need to go around beating yourself in the chest and head drawing blood screaming and shouting.
You should leave the naked pagan on a pole to deal with torture, blood drinking and flesh eating.
Islam is about living.
So you guys can be hussainians or hassanians?
For once I agree with most of what you have written but who's to stop them. Shia Islam is cult of martyrdom.
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Thats right, she does not consider Jesus as god and unlike you and I, she has not a bad word to say about any religion.
when did i say a bad word about God?
I am commenting on people who corrupt God's religion.
You have to tell rabbee..that your wife is christian and does not think jesus is god.
so rabbee is wrong
thank you.
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I think I know what your problem is.
You were never a Muslim.
You were perhaps an unwilling hassan/husseinian who was into self molestation, you poor boy.
Seems you were not even a mohammadan, and certainly not fortunate enough to have been a pious loving caring Muslim.
That accounts for your twisted way of thinking.
Never mind what I was and nor do I care what you think. All I know is that I showed a contradiction in the Koran and none of you were able to solve it.
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Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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madmood sayd his wife is christian but she thinks jesus is not god. she does not believe in trinity either.
help him!!!
who is your god...? do you not accept jesus?
There are as ,many type of Christianity as there are number of Christians!!

Every Christian is a "unique" model, when questioned, some one will say I do not believe in this, some one will say I do not believe in that and so on.

What you said about his wife could be true, because he himself like one of those models!!

Salaam

MUQ
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Never mind what I was and nor do I care what you think. All I know is that I showed a contradiction in the Koran and none of you were able to solve it.
That's your problem. You are a bit short on insight.
What you were is critical to all this because you simply cannot understand the explanation that there is no contradiction.
You have a blind spot.
Just like the blind spot of hassan/hussanism because you were never a Muslim.
Seems you were not even a mohammadan, and certainly not fortunate enough to have been a pious loving caring Muslim.
That accounts for your convoluted blinkered way of thinking.
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There are as ,many type of Christianity as there are number of Christians!!
Every Christian is a "unique" model, when questioned, some one will say I do not believe in this, some one will say I do not believe in that and so on.
What you said about his wife could be true, because he himself like one of those models!!
Salaam
MUQ
Salaam brother!
You are absolutely correct. I am just giving them a dose of their own medicine.
The reality is this...there are many good people who promote good mistakenly calling it Christian. There is no such thing as legitimate Christian as approved by Jesus!

These are just good human beings. Many of them are better than those who call themselves Muslims.

We need to give them Da'wah and they will be better Muslims than many who are born into Islam.

May Allah guide them.
Salaams.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: yes for the christians.
rabbee: well here we go again, with identity theft. for those who have, no moral charachter.
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Buford wrote:
The Uniqueness and Titles of Jesus in Islam

C. THE TITLES WORD AND SPIRIT OF GOD.

1. Jesus as the Word of God in the Qur'an.

The passage contains typical Qur'anic dogmas in opposition to Christianity and we find here the divinity of Jesus as emphatically rejected as anywhere else in the book. The dogmas are these: Jesus was only a messenger, God is not Triune, he is only one God and has no son. A Muslim seeking proof texts in the Qur'an to confront Christians with a denial of their belief in Jesus as the Son of God will not have to venture beyond this verse. The fascinating feature of this verse, however, is its attribution of three titles to Jesus, each one of which strongly implies that he was far more than a prophet and seems to be more consistent with Christian belief in him as Lord and Saviour of all men than the Muslim belief that he was no different to the other messengers God had sent. The key words containing all three titles are Innamaal-Masiihu Iisaabnu Maryama rasuulullaahi wa kalimatuhuu al-qaahaa ilaa Maryama wa ruuhum-minhu.

We have already considered the first at some length, namely Al-Masih, "the Messiah", and saw that no attempt is made in the Qur'an to explain the title. The other two that : appear in the text we shall consider in this section, namely Kalimah, meaning "Word", and Ruh, meaning "Spirit". Let us begin with the first as it is written in the verse, namely kalimatuhuu - "His Word". The construction makes it plain that Jesus is, in some unique way, God's own Word. The title; appears in two other places in the Qur'an in much the same context. In Surah 3.39 an angel announces to Zachariah that his son John (Yahya) will witness to a kalimatim-minallaah, "a Word from God", and in Surah 3.45 the angels, in announcing the conception of Jesus to Mary, speak of him as a kalimatim-minhu, "a Word from Him". The title, thus applied on no less than three occasions to Jesus, is not applied to anyone else in the Qur'an yet, as with the title Messiah, no attempt is made to explain it.
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Answering Gilchrist, the ignorant fool!

Please inform Gilchrist that there are no caps or capital letters in Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic.

The only UNIQUENESS of Jesus in Islam is, that he was the son of Mary, whom no man touched and she conceived Jesus by God's command. No man fathered Jesus.

In Qur'aan, Jesus is not the Word, WHICH IS USED IN CAPS by Christianity. That biblical word Word, has no place in Qur'aan.

In 4:171, the "word" was the message sent to Mary that she would conceive a child. And that word or promise was fulfilled. And Mary did not deliver 'a word or message', which was conveyed through Gabriel. She delivered baby Jesus.

Here is a translation in modern English by yours truly:

4:171 People of the Book! Do not cross the line in your religion and do not speak anything against Allah except the truth. This messiah Jesus, the son of Mary, was Allah’s messenger and fulfillment of word, He had conveyed to Mary and a soul from Him.

So believe in Allah and his messengers. Do not say,“Three”! Desist! It would be better for you. Indeed Allah is the only One God. He is too high in glory to have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth, and Allah is enough as a Guardian. "

So, the ruh or the soul of Jesus came from God. In other words, God gave life to the zygote or the foetus of brother Jesus.

"Kalimatim-min-allah " means "word from Allah" and "Kalimatim-minhu" means "word from Him". It is still from Allah.

Allah NEVER said in Qur'aan, "Jesus is my soul or my spirit or my word".
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Addendum for Gilchrist, Buford

I refer to these verses again.

"4:171 People of the Book! Do not cross the line in your religion and do not speak anything against Allah except the truth. This messiah Jesus, the son of Mary, was Allah’s messenger and fulfillment of word, He had conveyed to Mary and a soul from Him.

So believe in Allah and his messengers. Do not say,“Three”! Desist! It would be better for you. Indeed Allah is the only One God. He is too high in glory to have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth, and Allah is enough as a Guardian. "

In the Arabic text, there is no definite article for messiah.

Transliterated, it reads together as: "Inna-mal-maseeh"

It cannot be transliterated as "Innam-al-maseeh" to show an article 'al' in there.

The Christian polemicists misquote and twist it to show as if a definite article was used for messiah. That is wrong.

The point is that there is no need to find the so-called son of God in Qur'aan. There is no place for son of God in Qur'aan and Islam.

There is also no need to twist and distort verses because in 4:171 God already denies that he has a son.

Please tell Gilchrist and other polemicists to read other blunt verses instead of wasting time on 4:171 and here is a big one:

17:111 Translation by polemicist George Sale:

"And say, praise be unto God, Who hath not begotten any child; Who hath no partner in the kingdom, nor hath any to protect him from contempt: And magnify Him by proclaiming his greatness."

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