Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 253556 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Since: May 12

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#155346 Dec 3, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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All Jews by faith reject the Christian mangod and see "Christians" as Idolators.
Some Christians "think" they worship the Jewish god in the form of a man.
The Jews reject Christian claims not because they reject God but because they reject the man as their Prophet/Messenger.
If they reject the Jesus the Messenger of God they could be in trouble but not in as much trouble as those who worship Jesus the Messenger as their mangod!!!
The answer is simple.
There can only be ONE God.
That God will NEVER be tribal, racist, bigoted anti-gentile minigod or a human version of that minigod.
Therefore, Allah is the true God.
But still the two verses are in contradictions.

As for your last sentence how can Allah be the true god if he's a anthropopatic one, to say something?
Mahmood

Toronto, Canada

#155347 Dec 3, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
ANY CONTRADICTION?
Let's give a look to the quranic verses 2:62 and 4:150-151 to verify whether or not there is contradiction.
Quran 2:62
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
Quran 4:150-151
Those who deny Allah and His messengers, and (those who) wish to separate Allah from His messengers, saying: "We believe in some but reject others": And (those who) wish to take a course midway,-
They are in truth (equally) unbelievers; and we have prepared for unbelievers a humiliating punishment.
If the above translations are correct we do read that in Quran 2:62 Christians and Jews, ect will have a good reward, paradise, whilst Quran 4:150-151 says that those who believe in some prophets and reject others will have a harsh punishment.
The reality is that Christians and Jews reject Muhammad's claim, that according to Quran, he's a prophet of god. That means they will have a bad punishment, as said in Quran 4:150-151 but Quran 2:61 says they will have a good reward, for the simple reason they are Christians and Jews.
The two verses are in obvious contradiction.
Good job Stefano. At least you are smart enough to see the contradiction.
Mahmood

Toronto, Canada

#155348 Dec 3, 2012
bmz wrote:
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SURE!
Please quote the two verses again. It is either your lack of comprehension or ignorance, that keep[s you confused. I will try to help again.
Neither I am never wrong nor the Qur'aan is.
Just give me your interpretation of the line below. Please note that the word "messengers" is in plural form according to all translations available.

4:150 - Lo! those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers,.....
Mahmood

Toronto, Canada

#155349 Dec 3, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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All Jews by faith reject the Christian mangod and see "Christians" as Idolators.
Some Christians "think" they worship the Jewish god in the form of a man.
The Jews reject Christian claims not because they reject God but because they reject the man as their Prophet/Messenger.
If they reject the Jesus the Messenger of God they could be in trouble but not in as much trouble as those who worship Jesus the Messenger as their mangod!!!
The answer is simple.
There can only be ONE God.
That God will NEVER be tribal, racist, bigoted anti-gentile minigod or a human version of that minigod.
Therefore, Allah is the true God.
Even pagans believed in "Allah". Mohammad's father's name was Abdullah meaning Slave of Allah.

Since: May 12

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#155350 Dec 3, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
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Just give me your interpretation of the line below. Please note that the word "messengers" is in plural form according to all translations available.
4:150 - Lo! those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers,.....
It's more easy to make understand an issue to an ass than to bmz.

In other posts you and him have affirmed that in the past you used to talk about it, many times, and the result was he ignored the evident contradiction. In his last post he asked you to re-quote the quranic verses you cited, to give you his explication, but we know it was enough to go one pagine back or take them directly from internet, he didn't. That should tell you he's a time waster and not sincere person.

In my humble opinion you should give up any confrontation with him, being himself a person unable to face any problem related to his religion.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155351 Dec 3, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
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Even pagans believed in "Allah". Mohammad's father's name was Abdullah meaning Slave of Allah.
Not a problem!
Allah has always been there mr. clever boy.
The "Christian" worship a man called Jesus (idol worship)believing him to be YhWh.
Now what does that tell you?
Imagine if in a few thousand years time YhWh is not worshipped by the non-gentiles, and then suddenly one pious non-gentile brings YhWh back into play, will you say that even "idolators" believed in YhHh?
I hope you understand a bit of theology put in laymen's terms.
I don't wish to confuse you with churchy jargon!
Good mental health.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155352 Dec 3, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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It's more easy to make understand an issue to an ass than to bmz.
...
That is correct in my humble opinion!
BMZ is a human being and you are talking your asinine language suitable only to asses.
Therefore, we have a comms prob!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155353 Dec 3, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
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Good job Stefano. At least you are smart enough to see the contradiction.
you still haven't understood it.
I think you are struggling to comprehend something very simple by looking for a complicated answer!
There is no contradiction.
This is not the thread for it..but still there is no contradiction.
I have given the answer to stephano but he did not understand it!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155354 Dec 3, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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But still the two verses are in contradictions.
As for your last sentence how can Allah be the true god if he's a anthropopatic one, to say something?
There is no contradiction and please read my note again.
Did you mean anthropopathic?
What is your interpretation of it..and how do you assume Allah is that!
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#155355 Dec 3, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
All Jews by faith reject the Christian mangod and see "Christians" as Idolators.
Some Christians "think" they worship the Jewish god in the form of a man.
The Jews reject Christian claims not because they reject God but because they reject the man as their Prophet/Messenger.
If they reject the Jesus the Messenger of God they could be in trouble but not in as much trouble as those who worship Jesus the Messenger as their mangod!!!
The answer is simple.
There can only be ONE God.
That God will NEVER be tribal, racist, bigoted anti-gentile minigod or a human version of that minigod.
Therefore, Allah is the true God.
Alex---The Jews reject Christian claims not because they reject God but because they reject the man as their Prophet/Messenger

HughBe--- I take it that by Jews you mean JUDAITES or members of Judaism. I know that this is what you mean because I am confident that that you are aware that there are many Jews who have REJECTED ALL gods.

How can a person know that they have not rejected God?
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#155356 Dec 3, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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Alex---The Jews reject Christian claims not because they reject God but because they reject the man as their Prophet/Messenger
HughBe--- I take it that by Jews you mean JUDAITES or members of Judaism. I know that this is what you mean because I am confident that that you are aware that there are many Jews who have REJECTED ALL gods.
How can a person know that they have not rejected God?
There he goes again.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155357 Dec 3, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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Alex---The Jews reject Christian claims not because they reject God but because they reject the man as their Prophet/Messenger
HughBe--- I take it that by Jews you mean JUDAITES or members of Judaism. I know that this is what you mean because I am confident that that you are aware that there are many Jews who have REJECTED ALL gods.
How can a person know that they have not rejected God?
Hello HughBe, I was referring to those who adhere to the faith of Judaism as we know it today.

Yes, there may be Jews by race who reject God just like members of others races including Arabs who reject God.

Those who reject God do cause problems.

There may also be people who call themselves Jews by faith and still reject God.

I wish to remain neutral here because there are many who claim to be Muslims and behave like brutes.

Please correct me if I misunderstood your question.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#155358 Dec 3, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Hello HughBe, I was referring to those who adhere to the faith of Judaism as we know it today.
Yes, there may be Jews by race who reject God just like members of others races including Arabs who reject God.
Those who reject God do cause problems.
There may also be people who call themselves Jews by faith and still reject God.
I wish to remain neutral here because there are many who claim to be Muslims and behave like brutes.
Please correct me if I misunderstood your question.
Nothing is wrong with your answer, Alex. The fact is there are those who believe that they have NOT rejected God but in reality they have done so both in words and actions.

If a person does the things that they know are contrary to God's commandments and do what he wants to do then such a person has REJECTED God.

I have to go.

Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#155359 Dec 3, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Who is Allah?
Your God and my God.
THe pure God who does not favour one race or tribe but all humans.
OK, deep breath. Inhale, exhale.

MUQ has posted the entire Gospel of Barnabas twice before. He is starting again. He complains when others cut and paste, but sees nothing wrong with taking up two panels with stuff he has posted twice before.

In the US for a long time the Summer was a time for TV re-runs. Since then, summer re-runs has been a colloquialism for repeating one self over and over. MUQ meets that hands down.

Since: May 12

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#155360 Dec 3, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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There is no contradiction and please read my note again.
I read it and discarded it.
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Did you mean anthropopathic?
The lack of the last "h" in the word anthropopathic, makes you wonder if that is the word I was talking about? LOL
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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What is your interpretation of it..and how do you assume Allah is that!
By the way, talking about asisine language, where you are the expert, don't you know that when you make a question you should end up with the question mark (?), and not with other punctuation marks?

By that term I meant to attribute human feelings to a god. If you reject the idea of an anthropomorphic god then by coherent reasoning you should reject the idea of an anthropopathic god as well.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#155361 Dec 3, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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Nothing is wrong with your answer, Alex. The fact is there are those who believe that they have NOT rejected God but in reality they have done so both in words and actions.
If a person does the things that they know are contrary to God's commandments and do what he wants to do then such a person has REJECTED God.
I have to go.
One thing I would agree on is that Hughbe is in all likelihood an expert on rejection.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155362 Dec 3, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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Nothing is wrong with your answer, Alex. The fact is there are those who believe that they have NOT rejected God but in reality they have done so both in words and actions.
If a person does the things that they know are contrary to God's commandments and do what he wants to do then such a person has REJECTED God.
I have to go.
If a person does things that he/she knows are contrary to his/her God's commandments and does what he/she wants to do then such a person has rejected his/her model of God.
There are many religions and many "gods" and therefore, rejection of some "gods" is not a bad thing.
Peace
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155363 Dec 3, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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I read it and discarded it.
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The lack of the last "h" in the word anthropopathic, makes you wonder if that is the word I was talking about? LOL
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By the way, talking about asisine language, where you are the expert, don't you know that when you make a question you should end up with the question mark (?), and not with other punctuation marks?
By that term I meant to attribute human feelings to a god. If you reject the idea of an anthropomorphic god then by coherent reasoning you should reject the idea of an anthropopathic god as well.
Good for you.
I am off to pray (or should I say bray for you to understand?)
more ?? and more !! and more ..
As I am not God I will only understand God in terms of my feelings my ability to comprehend logic, dimension, emotion and others, but that does not mean that the creator-God is restricted by those created qualities.
full stop.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155364 Dec 3, 2012
Eric wrote:
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OK, deep breath. Inhale, exhale.
MUQ has posted the entire Gospel of Barnabas twice before. He is starting again. He complains when others cut and paste, but sees nothing wrong with taking up two panels with stuff he has posted twice before.
In the US for a long time the Summer was a time for TV re-runs. Since then, summer re-runs has been a colloquialism for repeating one self over and over. MUQ meets that hands down.
I was not asking for an explanation of your witty "re-run" remark as I experience it in UK USA and Canada.
My poser was simple..
Who is Allah?
The ONLY God worthy of worship.
george whyte

London, UK

#155365 Dec 3, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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That God will NEVER be tribal, racist, bigoted anti-gentile minigod or a human version of that minigod.
Therefore, Allah is the falseGod.
your allah says muslims are the best of manking

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