Who Is Allah?

There are 20 comments on the Aug 24, 2007, The Brussels Journal story titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155252 Nov 30, 2012
GREEK DEBT and GERMANY....Deja vu??

The Greeks hate Germany for imposing austerity.
The Germans hate Greeks for defaulting on LOANS.
Ah....."LOANS"?????

Who lent them the money? Ah...the BANKS!

Who owns the BANKS? ah...the JEWS!

Oh dear....oh dear....

The Greeks hate Germans and Germans hate Greeks because the JEWISH banks based in (France and) Germany lent money at HIGH interest rates to Greeks that cannot be serviced by Greeks!

Now the Greeks and Germans hate the JEWISH bankers!

Israel certainly does not help bring about love for Jewish bankers!

Please Israel wake up. Stop being arrogant. It takes only a few mistakes and you are in sh&t with millions of your fellow non-gentiles in the West.
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#155253 Nov 30, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
Zionism is Evil.
There is no point in legitimising something that has no legitmacy.
Ever since the poor "Jews"(mainly a collection of european converts with questionalbe semitic blood) were dumped in Palestine, NOTHING good has come out of that place!
It is just like reading the Old Testament stories!
They are living the life of Old Testament- murders and murders...from Jacob..David..Judah and the lot!! kill..kill..kill..."utter ly destroy" and paranoia.
Why is that wherever they go they bring misery and hatred upon themselves?
Israel shall always be a misadventure, propped up by lying "Christian" politicians who want the world to forget what they did to the "Christ Killing" Jews from about 200AD up until the Holocaust..and even now.
Why didn't they create a safe haven for Jews in a friendly country like USA?
Why does this "slave g-d" so desperately want his masters to live in one particular part of planet earth when the whole world is spread out like carpet for all humans to occupy?
The raison d'etre for "Israel" is non existent!
If it was "grabbed" for ALL Jews then they must ALL go there instead of living in "Christian" West.
Incidentally this was the original plan of the persona "Hitler" and many European "Christian" nations who wanted the "Christ killers" out of their backyard!
If Jews are allowed to stay peacefully in "Christian" West, there is no need for them to build on an artificial state that continues to terrorise its neighbours and takes more land from them.
If the Gospel bashing "Christians" accept the Jews as "Non Christ Killers", almost all the main problems will be solved overnight!
(HUGE HINT: Quran says JEWS DID NOT KILL JESUS!!)
The WHOLE world can see the atrocities committed by this "terror state" known as Israel except for a few countries where Zionist media have been pumping BS for the brain dead so they never get to see the truth.
whatever
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#155254 Nov 30, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
GREEK DEBT and GERMANY....Deja vu??
The Greeks hate Germany for imposing austerity.
The Germans hate Greeks for defaulting on LOANS.
Ah....."LOANS"?????
Who lent them the money? Ah...the BANKS!
Who owns the BANKS? ah...the JEWS!
Oh dear....oh dear....
The Greeks hate Germans and Germans hate Greeks because the JEWISH banks based in (France and) Germany lent money at HIGH interest rates to Greeks that cannot be serviced by Greeks!
Now the Greeks and Germans hate the JEWISH bankers!
Israel certainly does not help bring about love for Jewish bankers!
Please Israel wake up. Stop being arrogant. It takes only a few mistakes and you are in sh&t with millions of your fellow non-gentiles in the West.
You were born in the wrong era. You would of made a great Nazi.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155255 Nov 30, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
You were born in the wrong era. You would of made a great Nazi.
Thank you.
I have already posted my opinion on "Israel" if it were renamed as "Ishmael". If you can't see my neutral stance, then its your problem.

Sadly, yours sound like the typical response from a REAL Nazi, although I don't consider you to be one.

Do you not see anything SERIOUSLY wrong with what Israel is doing to the natives?

The REAL Nazis are occupying Palestine I am afraid.

The clever ploy by REAL nazis is to make others look like Nazis.

The clever ploy by REAL conspirators is to ridicule others as conspiracy theorists.

The clever ploy by REAL invading murderers is to pretend that they are the victims.

Please read carefully....do you not see a parallel?
GREEK DEBT and GERMANY....Deja vu??

The Greeks hate Germany for imposing austerity.
The Germans hate Greeks for defaulting on LOANS.
Ah....."LOANS"?????

Who lent them the money? Ah...the BANKS!

Who owns the BANKS? ah...the JEWS!

Oh dear....oh dear....

The Greeks hate Germans and Germans hate Greeks because the JEWISH banks based in (France and) Germany lent money at HIGH interest rates to Greeks that cannot be serviced by Greeks!

Now the Greeks and Germans hate the JEWISH bankers!

Israel certainly does not help bring about love for Jewish bankers!

Please Israel wake up. Stop being arrogant. It takes only a few mistakes and you are in sh&t with millions of your fellow non-gentiles in the West.

(HUGE HINT: Quran says JEWS DID NOT KILL JESUS!!)
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155256 Nov 30, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
whatever
But surely you must agree that Zionism is Evil.

There is no point in legitimising something that has no legitmacy.
Ever since the poor "Jews"(mainly a collection of european converts with questionalbe semitic blood) were dumped in Palestine, NOTHING good has come out of that place!
It is just like reading the Old Testament stories!
They are living the life of Old Testament- murders and murders...from Jacob..David..Judah and the lot!! kill..kill..kill..."utter ly destroy" and paranoia.
Why is that wherever they go they bring misery and hatred upon themselves?
Israel shall always be a misadventure, propped up by lying "Christian" politicians who want the world to forget what they did to the "Christ Killing" Jews from about 200AD up until the Holocaust..and even now.
Why didn't they create a safe haven for Jews in a friendly country like USA?
Why does this "slave g-d" so desperately want his masters to live in one particular part of planet earth when the whole world is spread out like carpet for all humans to occupy?
The raison d'etre for "Israel" is non existent!
If it was "grabbed" for ALL Jews then they must ALL go there instead of living in "Christian" West.
Incidentally this was the original plan of the persona "Hitler" and many European "Christian" nations who wanted the "Christ killers" out of their backyard!
If Jews are allowed to stay peacefully in "Christian" West, there is no need for them to build on an artificial state that continues to terrorise its neighbours and takes more land from them.
If the Gospel bashing "Christians" accept the Jews as "Non Christ Killers", almost all the main problems will be solved overnight!
(HUGE HINT: Quran says JEWS DID NOT KILL JESUS!!)
The WHOLE world can see the atrocities committed by this "terror state" known as Israel except for a few countries where Zionist media have been pumping BS for the brain dead so they never get to see the truth.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#155257 Nov 30, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/62960/oba...

President Barack Obama declared this week that there could be no shortcut to peace between Israel and the Palestinians, as he sought to head off a United Nations showdown over Palestinian statehood.

“Peace will not come through statements and resolutions at the United Nations — if it were that easy, it would have been accomplished by now,” Obama said in a Sept. 21 speech to the U.N. General Assembly.“Ultimately, it is the Israelis and the Palestinians who must live side by side.
“Ultimately, it is the Israelis and the Palestinians — not us — who must reach agreement on the issues that divide them.”
Actually Obama should keep his mouth shut and so should all top members of his administration
and every American President should do the same.

So, he should practice what he preached. America and the other few should stay out and let them talk to each other.

Obama has not come up with anything new and wise. I have said a dozen years ago the same and so did many on various forums.

I would go to the extent to say that Rabbi Lerner has really pressed the jugular, which even the American President could neither dream nor think of.

Leaving aside what this man has said in the past, I find his thoughts extremely noble and precious.

Israel is a bully to Palestinians, who have no military might. Why another big bully support her and why would another bully let the talks succeed?

Look at the bigotry of France. It was the first country to recognize a band of hooligans and killes as the legitimate government of Syria. Why can't it be the first to recognize the Palestinian state?

138 members accepted the move. That says a lot. That 9 opposed, shows that they do not matter. Those, who abstained, were real bigots.

I think someone should send the link to Obama.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/28/opinion/ler...

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#155258 Nov 30, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know why Israel opposes this?
because ABBAS has refused to give statements or assurances that:
1. There will be one state for the Jews and one state for the Palestinians (i.e. his charter calls for a Palestinian state and a hybird state which is rather unreciprical)
2. He has stated in the past that they are to use the nonmember status to pursue Israel in the world court - which has had a lousy track record towards fairness (google Goldstone report for an example of this)
3. Despite Abbas overture for negotiation, in the past there has been nothing keeping him from these negotiations - the Israelis over the last several years have been asking for the Palestinians to return to negotiations
At the end of the day, its not the UN that makes states (they have no authority) but the parties. So this excercise really changes nothing except to showcase Palestinian intransigence.
Most Jews want a Palestinian state. This is not news (however it should be noted that Lerner is not very popular as a leader) But until the Palestinians accept Israel and behave like neighbors, many Jews will be opposed to a state in the short run.
Looks like you missed reading this part from the Rabbi's view:

" So those in the U.S. and Israel who want Israel to be secure should welcome the Palestinian Authority's decision to seek observer status as a nonmember state in the United Nations.

*****The authority has agreed to return to negotiations with Israel without conditions once that status has been granted.*****

The goal is creation of a state living in peace with Israel in borders roughly approximating those of the before than 1967 war, with minor border changes mutually agreeable through negotiations.

Please read the para that I have highlighted with *****.
Mahmood

Woodstock, Canada

#155259 Nov 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
It is all on record. There is no need for MUQ to write about fighting and killing. Buford can do that any time by posting non-stop. Just wind him up. he is efficient.
The killing of all, who were persecuting, torturing, killing the new Muslims and were fighting against the Prophet and the infant Islam, was perfectly justified.
So, what is the problem?
The problem is that like all cultist/narcissists, Mohammad began to show his true colours after he gained some power in Medina. Like a mafia boss, he order hits on those who criticized him - not just those who fought him. In some instances, the fighting was justified, but killing of Asma bint Marwan, Abu Rafi, Um Qirfa, and ethnic cleansing of the Jewish tribes was uncalled for. The Jewish tribes did not attack him.
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#155260 Nov 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like you missed reading this part from the Rabbi's view:
" So those in the U.S. and Israel who want Israel to be secure should welcome the Palestinian Authority's decision to seek observer status as a nonmember state in the United Nations.
*****The authority has agreed to return to negotiations with Israel without conditions once that status has been granted.*****
The goal is creation of a state living in peace with Israel in borders roughly approximating those of the before than 1967 war, with minor border changes mutually agreeable through negotiations.
Please read the para that I have highlighted with *****.
We will see what they do

If they were sincere they would of given the other assurances I listed.

Of note: Israel announced today they were approving another 3000 housing units across the green line. It is widely assumed this is to prevent a continuous Arab settlement from Ramallah to Jerusalem. The Catholic Church also announced that they wanted the parties to start "negotiating" Jerusalem (codeword- give up Jewish soveriegnty). Based upon the Church's predictable response to the UN (which wasnt supposed to bring other actions into the mix), I dont blame Israel for issuing the housing starts.
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#155261 Nov 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually Obama should keep his mouth shut and so should all top members of his administration
and every American President should do the same.
So, he should practice what he preached. America and the other few should stay out and let them talk to each other.
Obama has not come up with anything new and wise. I have said a dozen years ago the same and so did many on various forums.
I would go to the extent to say that Rabbi Lerner has really pressed the jugular, which even the American President could neither dream nor think of.
Leaving aside what this man has said in the past, I find his thoughts extremely noble and precious.
Israel is a bully to Palestinians, who have no military might. Why another big bully support her and why would another bully let the talks succeed?
Look at the bigotry of France. It was the first country to recognize a band of hooligans and killes as the legitimate government of Syria. Why can't it be the first to recognize the Palestinian state?
138 members accepted the move. That says a lot. That 9 opposed, shows that they do not matter. Those, who abstained, were real bigots.
I think someone should send the link to Obama.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/28/opinion/ler...
And at the end of day, after the Pals went crying to the UN, it is still up to the TWO (and only two) parties to learn to live with eachother and settle the matter.

So basically Obama was correct
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#155262 Nov 30, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you.
I have already posted my opinion on "Israel" if it were renamed as "Ishmael". If you can't see my neutral stance, then its your problem.
Sadly, yours sound like the typical response from a REAL Nazi, although I don't consider you to be one.
Do you not see anything SERIOUSLY wrong with what Israel is doing to the natives?
The REAL Nazis are occupying Palestine I am afraid.
The clever ploy by REAL nazis is to make others look like Nazis.
The clever ploy by REAL conspirators is to ridicule others as conspiracy theorists.
The clever ploy by REAL invading murderers is to pretend that they are the victims.
Please read carefully....do you not see a parallel?
GREEK DEBT and GERMANY....Deja vu??
The Greeks hate Germany for imposing austerity.
The Germans hate Greeks for defaulting on LOANS.
Ah....."LOANS"?????
Who lent them the money? Ah...the BANKS!
Who owns the BANKS? ah...the JEWS!
Oh dear....oh dear....
The Greeks hate Germans and Germans hate Greeks because the JEWISH banks based in (France and) Germany lent money at HIGH interest rates to Greeks that cannot be serviced by Greeks!
Now the Greeks and Germans hate the JEWISH bankers!
Israel certainly does not help bring about love for Jewish bankers!
Please Israel wake up. Stop being arrogant. It takes only a few mistakes and you are in sh&t with millions of your fellow non-gentiles in the West.
(HUGE HINT: Quran says JEWS DID NOT KILL JESUS!!)
According to you, Jews control the banking system. That is in line with what the Nazis (and others)thought.

I will not be wasting anymore time with you.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#155263 Nov 30, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem is that like all cultist/narcissists, Mohammad began to show his true colours after he gained some power in Medina. Like a mafia boss, he order hits on those who criticized him - not just those who fought him. In some instances, the fighting was justified, but killing of Asma bint Marwan, Abu Rafi, Um Qirfa, and ethnic cleansing of the Jewish tribes was uncalled for. The Jewish tribes did not attack him.
You see, you make statement like Internet Junkies and write rubbish.

How silly and stupid of you to write, "and ethnic cleansing of the Jewish tribes was uncalled for."

Banu Nadir and Banu Qaynuqa were allowed to go into exile. Right? So where was the ethnic cleansing? The Jewish tribes sided with the Meccan pagans, even according to your own internet sources. They were the ones, who brought up the Meccans to destroy the Prophet and Muslims.

They attacked together with the Meccans and lost, when the Meccans left them alone and went back.

That is why I said all killing was justified! Do you think the buggers Asma bint Marwan, Abu Rafi, Um Qirfa and others were very nice, kind and loving people?

There was no order from the Prophet to kill anyone. If killing had been on his mind, blood would have flowed through the streets of Mecca, when the Prophet made the Grand Triumphal Re-Entry
into Mecca. Did he kill all the Meccans or did he carry out ethnic cleansing of Meccans?

How can you choose to be ignorant? Were the leaders of the Jewish tribes innocent men, according to your own sources?

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#155264 Nov 30, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
And at the end of day, after the Pals went crying to the UN, it is still up to the TWO (and only two) parties to learn to live with eachother and settle the matter.
So basically Obama was correct
I am on record for saying the same thing. Both bloody fools need to sit down and talk, without the outsiders. Obama was correct in saying that but the man never had it in the bottom of his heart.
He still sides with a bully that terrorizes the Palestinians. America can never be the peace-maker in this case.

I think the Rabbi analyzed and said it really well compared with Obama's 1-2 liner.

Frijoles, if Obama had said what the Rabbi had said, there would be peace within a few weeks.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#155265 Nov 30, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
We will see what they do
If they were sincere they would of given the other assurances I listed.
Of note: Israel announced today they were approving another 3000 housing units across the green line. It is widely assumed this is to prevent a continuous Arab settlement from Ramallah to Jerusalem. The Catholic Church also announced that they wanted the parties to start "negotiating" Jerusalem (codeword- give up Jewish soveriegnty). Based upon the Church's predictable response to the UN (which wasnt supposed to bring other actions into the mix), I dont blame Israel for issuing the housing starts.
The Catholic Church cannot be trusted at all.

Your own government has always condemned the building of houses. Looks like one fine day, the Palestinians will get all those condominiums. lol!

Good night
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#155266 Nov 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
The Catholic Church cannot be trusted at all.
Your own government has always condemned the building of houses. Looks like one fine day, the Palestinians will get all those condominiums. lol!
Good night
I am not in favor of the units either, but given what has been unleashed by the Palestinians, I can certainly understand the Israeli reaction. That was my point.
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#155267 Nov 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I am on record for saying the same thing. Both bloody fools need to sit down and talk, without the outsiders. Obama was correct in saying that but the man never had it in the bottom of his heart.
He still sides with a bully that terrorizes the Palestinians. America can never be the peace-maker in this case.
I think the Rabbi analyzed and said it really well compared with Obama's 1-2 liner.
Frijoles, if Obama had said what the Rabbi had said, there would be peace within a few weeks.
Bringing me back to the original question - how do you negotiate peace with an entity that wants to destroy you?

Before you say that the PA is different than Hamas, I might bring to your attention that they are ON RECORD as saying the essentially same thing.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155268 Nov 30, 2012
Buford wrote:
BTW, cynophobia is the fear of dogs, not "dogaphobia."
rabbee: yeah but the other one, you don't need a dictionary for. and still gets, the point across. but sinophobia and cynophobia, ill-pronounced sound too doggone much alike. and beware of: lick can therapy too.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155269 Nov 30, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
Zionism is Evil.
There is no point in legitimising something that has no legitmacy.
Ever since the poor "Jews"(mainly a collection of european converts with questionalbe semitic blood) were dumped in Palestine, NOTHING good has come out of that place!
It is just like reading the Old Testament stories!
They are living the life of Old Testament- murders and murders...from Jacob..David..Judah and the lot!! kill..kill..kill..."utter ly destroy" and paranoia.
Why is that wherever they go they bring misery and hatred upon themselves?
Israel shall always be a misadventure, propped up by lying "Christian" politicians who want the world to forget what they did to the "Christ Killing" Jews from about 200AD up until the Holocaust..and even now.
Why didn't they create a safe haven for Jews in a friendly country like USA?
Why does this "slave g-d" so desperately want his masters to live in one particular part of planet earth when the whole world is spread out like carpet for all humans to occupy?
The raison d'etre for "Israel" is non existent!
If it was "grabbed" for ALL Jews then they must ALL go there instead of living in "Christian" West.
Incidentally this was the original plan of the persona "Hitler" and many European "Christian" nations who wanted the "Christ killers" out of their backyard!
If Jews are allowed to stay peacefully in "Christian" West, there is no need for them to build on an artificial state that continues to terrorise its neighbours and takes more land from them.
If the Gospel bashing "Christians" accept the Jews as "Non Christ Killers", almost all the main problems will be solved overnight!
(HUGE HINT: Quran says JEWS DID NOT KILL JESUS!!)
The WHOLE world can see the atrocities committed by this "terror state" known as Israel except for a few countries where Zionist media have been pumping BS for the brain dead so they never get to see the truth.
rabbee: claiming with your illigimate religion, that someone elses religion is illigimate. is the worst kind of hyprocricy you can do.

muslems had to create, their own illigimate book. in order to justify their religion of men. it was not written by an angel, Angel or G-D, and given to muhammed. and was written after the death, of muhammed by others. TheTorah is the only religious Scroll, that was justified and authorized by G-D.

therefor TheTorah is the only, Ligimate Scripture. cause it is written by G-D, and given to Moshe. even the rest of their Tanach, is written by inspired men, and not G-D, nor Angel, nor angel. it was the first, new testament written by men.

and they were selected, in their close association to the rules and laws of TheTorah as their stick of measure. no book that could not be justified, by TheTorah Itself was included in TheTanach. and their are many more books, than just those that were included. and what is known as the talmood, is not included in either TheTorah or TheTanach. for it is even further removed, with due caution.

no scripture that cannot be validated in TheTorah, is ever to be considered as ligimate. all true scripture, must be weighed by TheTorah Only. even the judgement of this whole world, given to me from G-D HIMSELF is verifiable in TheTorah.
Allah is Satan

Toronto, Canada

#155270 Nov 30, 2012
Allah is Satan, and Muhammad is the organ-grinder's monkey.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155271 Nov 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually Obama should keep his mouth shut and so should all top members of his administration
and every American President should do the same.
So, he should practice what he preached. America and the other few should stay out and let them talk to each other.
Obama has not come up with anything new and wise. I have said a dozen years ago the same and so did many on various forums.
I would go to the extent to say that Rabbi Lerner has really pressed the jugular, which even the American President could neither dream nor think of.
Leaving aside what this man has said in the past, I find his thoughts extremely noble and precious.
Israel is a bully to Palestinians, who have no military might. Why another big bully support her and why would another bully let the talks succeed?
Look at the bigotry of France. It was the first country to recognize a band of hooligans and killes as the legitimate government of Syria. Why can't it be the first to recognize the Palestinian state?
138 members accepted the move. That says a lot. That 9 opposed, shows that they do not matter. Those, who abstained, were real bigots.
I think someone should send the link to Obama.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/28/opinion/ler...
rabbee: muslems and jews, do not talk to each other. if it were not for go betweens, they would no be talking at all. muslems have a law, that any muslem that associates with jews are to be killed. now how is any one going to deal, with pagans like that? and muslems think it is ok, to lie to all they consider their enemies. so that they might seek the chance to murder them. and this muslem mentality is all entirely in violation, to what is written in TheTorah. now where in TheTorah does it instruct, the killing all gentiles. according to muslem law, it does not matter if your true to G-D or not. you are murdered if you refuse to agree with muslems no matter how untrue to G-D muslems are.

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