Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 255958 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#155261 Nov 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually Obama should keep his mouth shut and so should all top members of his administration
and every American President should do the same.
So, he should practice what he preached. America and the other few should stay out and let them talk to each other.
Obama has not come up with anything new and wise. I have said a dozen years ago the same and so did many on various forums.
I would go to the extent to say that Rabbi Lerner has really pressed the jugular, which even the American President could neither dream nor think of.
Leaving aside what this man has said in the past, I find his thoughts extremely noble and precious.
Israel is a bully to Palestinians, who have no military might. Why another big bully support her and why would another bully let the talks succeed?
Look at the bigotry of France. It was the first country to recognize a band of hooligans and killes as the legitimate government of Syria. Why can't it be the first to recognize the Palestinian state?
138 members accepted the move. That says a lot. That 9 opposed, shows that they do not matter. Those, who abstained, were real bigots.
I think someone should send the link to Obama.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/28/opinion/ler...
And at the end of day, after the Pals went crying to the UN, it is still up to the TWO (and only two) parties to learn to live with eachother and settle the matter.

So basically Obama was correct
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#155262 Nov 30, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you.
I have already posted my opinion on "Israel" if it were renamed as "Ishmael". If you can't see my neutral stance, then its your problem.
Sadly, yours sound like the typical response from a REAL Nazi, although I don't consider you to be one.
Do you not see anything SERIOUSLY wrong with what Israel is doing to the natives?
The REAL Nazis are occupying Palestine I am afraid.
The clever ploy by REAL nazis is to make others look like Nazis.
The clever ploy by REAL conspirators is to ridicule others as conspiracy theorists.
The clever ploy by REAL invading murderers is to pretend that they are the victims.
Please read carefully....do you not see a parallel?
GREEK DEBT and GERMANY....Deja vu??
The Greeks hate Germany for imposing austerity.
The Germans hate Greeks for defaulting on LOANS.
Ah....."LOANS"?????
Who lent them the money? Ah...the BANKS!
Who owns the BANKS? ah...the JEWS!
Oh dear....oh dear....
The Greeks hate Germans and Germans hate Greeks because the JEWISH banks based in (France and) Germany lent money at HIGH interest rates to Greeks that cannot be serviced by Greeks!
Now the Greeks and Germans hate the JEWISH bankers!
Israel certainly does not help bring about love for Jewish bankers!
Please Israel wake up. Stop being arrogant. It takes only a few mistakes and you are in sh&t with millions of your fellow non-gentiles in the West.
(HUGE HINT: Quran says JEWS DID NOT KILL JESUS!!)
According to you, Jews control the banking system. That is in line with what the Nazis (and others)thought.

I will not be wasting anymore time with you.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#155263 Nov 30, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem is that like all cultist/narcissists, Mohammad began to show his true colours after he gained some power in Medina. Like a mafia boss, he order hits on those who criticized him - not just those who fought him. In some instances, the fighting was justified, but killing of Asma bint Marwan, Abu Rafi, Um Qirfa, and ethnic cleansing of the Jewish tribes was uncalled for. The Jewish tribes did not attack him.
You see, you make statement like Internet Junkies and write rubbish.

How silly and stupid of you to write, "and ethnic cleansing of the Jewish tribes was uncalled for."

Banu Nadir and Banu Qaynuqa were allowed to go into exile. Right? So where was the ethnic cleansing? The Jewish tribes sided with the Meccan pagans, even according to your own internet sources. They were the ones, who brought up the Meccans to destroy the Prophet and Muslims.

They attacked together with the Meccans and lost, when the Meccans left them alone and went back.

That is why I said all killing was justified! Do you think the buggers Asma bint Marwan, Abu Rafi, Um Qirfa and others were very nice, kind and loving people?

There was no order from the Prophet to kill anyone. If killing had been on his mind, blood would have flowed through the streets of Mecca, when the Prophet made the Grand Triumphal Re-Entry
into Mecca. Did he kill all the Meccans or did he carry out ethnic cleansing of Meccans?

How can you choose to be ignorant? Were the leaders of the Jewish tribes innocent men, according to your own sources?

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#155264 Nov 30, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
And at the end of day, after the Pals went crying to the UN, it is still up to the TWO (and only two) parties to learn to live with eachother and settle the matter.
So basically Obama was correct
I am on record for saying the same thing. Both bloody fools need to sit down and talk, without the outsiders. Obama was correct in saying that but the man never had it in the bottom of his heart.
He still sides with a bully that terrorizes the Palestinians. America can never be the peace-maker in this case.

I think the Rabbi analyzed and said it really well compared with Obama's 1-2 liner.

Frijoles, if Obama had said what the Rabbi had said, there would be peace within a few weeks.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#155265 Nov 30, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
We will see what they do
If they were sincere they would of given the other assurances I listed.
Of note: Israel announced today they were approving another 3000 housing units across the green line. It is widely assumed this is to prevent a continuous Arab settlement from Ramallah to Jerusalem. The Catholic Church also announced that they wanted the parties to start "negotiating" Jerusalem (codeword- give up Jewish soveriegnty). Based upon the Church's predictable response to the UN (which wasnt supposed to bring other actions into the mix), I dont blame Israel for issuing the housing starts.
The Catholic Church cannot be trusted at all.

Your own government has always condemned the building of houses. Looks like one fine day, the Palestinians will get all those condominiums. lol!

Good night
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#155266 Nov 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
The Catholic Church cannot be trusted at all.
Your own government has always condemned the building of houses. Looks like one fine day, the Palestinians will get all those condominiums. lol!
Good night
I am not in favor of the units either, but given what has been unleashed by the Palestinians, I can certainly understand the Israeli reaction. That was my point.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#155267 Nov 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I am on record for saying the same thing. Both bloody fools need to sit down and talk, without the outsiders. Obama was correct in saying that but the man never had it in the bottom of his heart.
He still sides with a bully that terrorizes the Palestinians. America can never be the peace-maker in this case.
I think the Rabbi analyzed and said it really well compared with Obama's 1-2 liner.
Frijoles, if Obama had said what the Rabbi had said, there would be peace within a few weeks.
Bringing me back to the original question - how do you negotiate peace with an entity that wants to destroy you?

Before you say that the PA is different than Hamas, I might bring to your attention that they are ON RECORD as saying the essentially same thing.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155268 Nov 30, 2012
Buford wrote:
BTW, cynophobia is the fear of dogs, not "dogaphobia."
rabbee: yeah but the other one, you don't need a dictionary for. and still gets, the point across. but sinophobia and cynophobia, ill-pronounced sound too doggone much alike. and beware of: lick can therapy too.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155269 Nov 30, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
Zionism is Evil.
There is no point in legitimising something that has no legitmacy.
Ever since the poor "Jews"(mainly a collection of european converts with questionalbe semitic blood) were dumped in Palestine, NOTHING good has come out of that place!
It is just like reading the Old Testament stories!
They are living the life of Old Testament- murders and murders...from Jacob..David..Judah and the lot!! kill..kill..kill..."utter ly destroy" and paranoia.
Why is that wherever they go they bring misery and hatred upon themselves?
Israel shall always be a misadventure, propped up by lying "Christian" politicians who want the world to forget what they did to the "Christ Killing" Jews from about 200AD up until the Holocaust..and even now.
Why didn't they create a safe haven for Jews in a friendly country like USA?
Why does this "slave g-d" so desperately want his masters to live in one particular part of planet earth when the whole world is spread out like carpet for all humans to occupy?
The raison d'etre for "Israel" is non existent!
If it was "grabbed" for ALL Jews then they must ALL go there instead of living in "Christian" West.
Incidentally this was the original plan of the persona "Hitler" and many European "Christian" nations who wanted the "Christ killers" out of their backyard!
If Jews are allowed to stay peacefully in "Christian" West, there is no need for them to build on an artificial state that continues to terrorise its neighbours and takes more land from them.
If the Gospel bashing "Christians" accept the Jews as "Non Christ Killers", almost all the main problems will be solved overnight!
(HUGE HINT: Quran says JEWS DID NOT KILL JESUS!!)
The WHOLE world can see the atrocities committed by this "terror state" known as Israel except for a few countries where Zionist media have been pumping BS for the brain dead so they never get to see the truth.
rabbee: claiming with your illigimate religion, that someone elses religion is illigimate. is the worst kind of hyprocricy you can do.

muslems had to create, their own illigimate book. in order to justify their religion of men. it was not written by an angel, Angel or G-D, and given to muhammed. and was written after the death, of muhammed by others. TheTorah is the only religious Scroll, that was justified and authorized by G-D.

therefor TheTorah is the only, Ligimate Scripture. cause it is written by G-D, and given to Moshe. even the rest of their Tanach, is written by inspired men, and not G-D, nor Angel, nor angel. it was the first, new testament written by men.

and they were selected, in their close association to the rules and laws of TheTorah as their stick of measure. no book that could not be justified, by TheTorah Itself was included in TheTanach. and their are many more books, than just those that were included. and what is known as the talmood, is not included in either TheTorah or TheTanach. for it is even further removed, with due caution.

no scripture that cannot be validated in TheTorah, is ever to be considered as ligimate. all true scripture, must be weighed by TheTorah Only. even the judgement of this whole world, given to me from G-D HIMSELF is verifiable in TheTorah.
Allah is Satan

Toronto, Canada

#155270 Nov 30, 2012
Allah is Satan, and Muhammad is the organ-grinder's monkey.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155271 Nov 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually Obama should keep his mouth shut and so should all top members of his administration
and every American President should do the same.
So, he should practice what he preached. America and the other few should stay out and let them talk to each other.
Obama has not come up with anything new and wise. I have said a dozen years ago the same and so did many on various forums.
I would go to the extent to say that Rabbi Lerner has really pressed the jugular, which even the American President could neither dream nor think of.
Leaving aside what this man has said in the past, I find his thoughts extremely noble and precious.
Israel is a bully to Palestinians, who have no military might. Why another big bully support her and why would another bully let the talks succeed?
Look at the bigotry of France. It was the first country to recognize a band of hooligans and killes as the legitimate government of Syria. Why can't it be the first to recognize the Palestinian state?
138 members accepted the move. That says a lot. That 9 opposed, shows that they do not matter. Those, who abstained, were real bigots.
I think someone should send the link to Obama.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/28/opinion/ler...
rabbee: muslems and jews, do not talk to each other. if it were not for go betweens, they would no be talking at all. muslems have a law, that any muslem that associates with jews are to be killed. now how is any one going to deal, with pagans like that? and muslems think it is ok, to lie to all they consider their enemies. so that they might seek the chance to murder them. and this muslem mentality is all entirely in violation, to what is written in TheTorah. now where in TheTorah does it instruct, the killing all gentiles. according to muslem law, it does not matter if your true to G-D or not. you are murdered if you refuse to agree with muslems no matter how untrue to G-D muslems are.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155272 Nov 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like you missed reading this part from the Rabbi's view:
" So those in the U.S. and Israel who want Israel to be secure should welcome the Palestinian Authority's decision to seek observer status as a nonmember state in the United Nations.
*****The authority has agreed to return to negotiations with Israel without conditions once that status has been granted.*****
The goal is creation of a state living in peace with Israel in borders roughly approximating those of the before than 1967 war, with minor border changes mutually agreeable through negotiations.
Please read the para that I have highlighted with *****.
rabbee: should any one welcome, anyone who welcomes me not? according to your rules, i should invite murderes into my home to murder me.

i do not agree, to allow anyone into my home. who is not true, to G-D. nor shall i enter your's, dedicated to idolitry. i may agree to meet, with them somewhere else to discuss G-D. i have never let, even one muslem in my home. and according to what i, see here. it is not likly, i shall ever do that.

i have yet to meet, even one muslem even slightly close to being true to G-D. if your all-h really is g-D, it certainly does not show this through any muslem. either on any message board, or in public. or if i want denial of G-D, i can get enough of this through, christians, and also nicer agnostics and athiests. and in fact i consider, many agnostics truer to G-D than muslems or muhammed presently.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155273 Nov 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I am on record for saying the same thing. Both bloody fools need to sit down and talk, without the outsiders. Obama was correct in saying that but the man never had it in the bottom of his heart.
He still sides with a bully that terrorizes the Palestinians. America can never be the peace-maker in this case.
I think the Rabbi analyzed and said it really well compared with Obama's 1-2 liner.
Frijoles, if Obama had said what the Rabbi had said, there would be peace within a few weeks.
rabbee: your version of who is the bully, is prejudiced with an extreemly true light. it is G-D WHO, is returnning the jews* to Ysrael and your antiG-D cannot accept this.

whey do you suppose, there are about two billion muslems. who embarassingly can't kick the butt, of 9 million jews? could it be! because G-D won't allow this??? man! are you living in, fantacy land or what??? when i can see what G-D, had already commanded to happen here comming true. all the moving and shaking here, is being done by Command of G-D.

neither G-D, nor i when i am put in charge for the last day. shall allow any of you! to distroy Ysrael. and yes G-D can command muslems to commit suicide, like in syria today. and eventually i and my designated mate shall have, the power to do that. you are not in charge of this world or your nations, as for right now G-D IS.

and you do not want to make, G-D or i. angrier at you than we are already angry at these jews* like you have been. so don't blame them with your failure to be true to G-D, for their failure to be true to G-D also. i prefer to do this, the easy way here in TheTorah. but if you all want to continue, to be this difficult. then i can be, a lot more difficult than you all can imagine.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155274 Nov 30, 2012
if you all think you can screw with me, when G-D takes off for the day of rest. you can forget that idea, right now.

i won't need armies, to back me up. and don't mean i won't, exnclude them. i'll have the power to send you all off, into never never never existant-land.

every time G-D has given this story of Creation. THEY/BOTH have always put me and the woman, in charge of all you rather be critters for the final day. and this too, is all verifiable in TheTorah.

so i have This Already Promise, directly from G-D. and it is forever already verifiable in The Written Torah Scroll.

you do not get to choose, who your birth parents are. you do not even get to choose, what country your born in. if you think this is all by tradition, then you are nuts.

your parents, and their parents parents did not get a choice either. why because it is all commanded by G-D. down to every first and last, blade of grass in this world. your being here, is not an accident or because your parents said so.

the only thing, you get to choose. is to what you all have to say and think about it. that is called, free will. free will is not, a physical condition. it only allows for your, true or not true mental condition. so be carefull what you, all say and think. as your own tounge, is your own worst enemy or best friend.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155275 Nov 30, 2012
yes i highly suspect, me and this woman sarah faye ann carney are TheOne, christians and jews are actually waiting for.

but i cannot accept this, with out, G-D telling me this HIMSELV'S. as i figure i have about, 60 years before G-D comes to tell me and the appointed woman this.

and i still do not think, i shall be ready at that time. cause i know, i would be freaking out, should G-D do this sooner than this. that i am even, less prepared for now.

i cannot afford to be saying, why me anymore. or oh G-D! not me again. when the overwhelming evidence says it is, me again.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#155276 Nov 30, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
The Greeks hate Germans and Germans hate Greeks because the JEWISH banks based in (France and) Germany lent money at HIGH interest rates to Greeks that cannot be serviced by Greeks!

Now the Greeks and Germans hate the JEWISH bankers!.
It sounds unlikely to be polite. Many Greeks hate Germany and in particular Merkel because the plan of austerity is not helping the country but ruin it, while many Germans (the people) have no intention to give their money to repair the problems of nations that acted recklessly.

At the top of this and I haven't seen or heard Greeks and Germans shouting or manifesting against Jews, in the street. Have you?
Mahmood

Mississauga, Canada

#155277 Nov 30, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
You see, you make statement like Internet Junkies and write rubbish.
How silly and stupid of you to write, "and ethnic cleansing of the Jewish tribes was uncalled for."
Banu Nadir and Banu Qaynuqa were allowed to go into exile. Right? So where was the ethnic cleansing? The Jewish tribes sided with the Meccan pagans, even according to your own internet sources. They were the ones, who brought up the Meccans to destroy the Prophet and Muslims.
They attacked together with the Meccans and lost, when the Meccans left them alone and went back.
That is why I said all killing was justified! Do you think the buggers Asma bint Marwan, Abu Rafi, Um Qirfa and others were very nice, kind and loving people?
There was no order from the Prophet to kill anyone. If killing had been on his mind, blood would have flowed through the streets of Mecca, when the Prophet made the Grand Triumphal Re-Entry
into Mecca. Did he kill all the Meccans or did he carry out ethnic cleansing of Meccans?
How can you choose to be ignorant? Were the leaders of the Jewish tribes innocent men, according to your own sources?
Brother bmz, you are absolutely amazing. Without a doubt, I am an internet junkie - no arguments there, and in your view, I can be stupid, silly, idiotic whatever. But what is most shocking is that you have swallowed Ben Issac's sira wholesale which is really atonishing because all along, you have been abusing the poor basta*d. For a Koran only Mohammadan to write such things is truely amazing.

Sure Qaynuqa were spared, thanks to the intervention of Ibn Ubay or else they would have been hacked as well. BN were driven into exile, while BQ were slaughtered en mass. They were given a choice, either embrace Mohammadanism or get butchered. They obviously chose the latter. If you do not call that ethnic cleansing, then the hell is ethnic cleanising?

Okay, so you saying that Mohd never ordered hits on Kaab Ashraf, Bin Marwan, Abu Rafi, Um Qirfa? Either Ben Issac is lying or you'v forgotten what he wrote, because by the look of things, you seem to accept some of his writings and reject others.

Its not about how kind and loving they were, its whether they killed anyone or not. If they were convicted murderers, then killing them would be justifiable, otherwise not.

You then write:
"There was no order from the Prophet to kill anyone. If killing had been on his mind, blood would have flowed through the streets of Mecca, when the Prophet made the Grand Triumphal Re-Entry
into Mecca. Did he kill all the Meccans or did he carry out ethnic cleansing of Meccans?"

Mohammad had bigger fish to fry. Killing Meccans would have done him no good. The man was an astute politician who'd put Gandhi & Brian Mulrooney to shame. As long as the narcissist is told that you are my prophet and I believe in you, you have nothing to worry. The moment his egotistical desires are fulfilled, he's won and wont hold anything against you. He even spared Hind who had a hand in killing his uncle Hamza. Always keep in mind brother, that the holy Koran says " believe in Allah and his apostle"...not just Allah.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#155279 Nov 30, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
Die hard Mohammadans like you are like used car salesmen...they tell you the good things about the car and hide the bad stuff. You have been writing in this forum for so long and I have yet to see write about all the murders and assassinations carried on at the behest of your prophet.
If I am a Used car salesman, then you are the sanitary inspector, who only looks for bad smells and deals only on these.

He does not see the beautiful plumbing and bathroom fittings, but where are leaks and "ooze" is leaking.

Let each of us do our jobs. How much they pay to sanitary inspectors in your part of the world?

To Used Car Salesman, the pay will be from the Car Owner, do not have any worry on that!!

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#155280 Dec 1, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: muslems and jews, do not talk to each other. if it were not for go betweens, they would no be talking at all. muslems have a law, that any muslem that associates with jews are to be killed. now how is any one going to deal, with pagans like that? and muslems think it is ok, to lie to all they consider their enemies. so that they might seek the chance to murder them. and this muslem mentality is all entirely in violation, to what is written in TheTorah. now where in TheTorah does it instruct, the killing all gentiles. according to muslem law, it does not matter if your true to G-D or not. you are murdered if you refuse to agree with muslems no matter how untrue to G-D muslems are.
Rabbee

You live in TheGanEden of your TheTorah and do not know that the Israeli Arabs and the Israeli Jews sit down every day and have Qahwa for hours in the interior parts of Israel. They talk to each other and live together.

It is the Israeli regime that does not want any talks. Look! This was a good chance and what did the demented Israeli leadership did? The regime gave the go-ahead for the construction of 3,000 more residential units on occupied land.

This regime does not want to talk, it only knows how to make sure that there is no chance of any talk.

Even the regime's best friend criticized it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-2...

This regime is insane, Rabbee. You must raed what the learned Rabbi Lerner said.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#155281 Dec 1, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
Brother bmz, you are absolutely amazing. Without a doubt, I am an internet junkie - no arguments there, and in your view, I can be stupid, silly, idiotic whatever. But what is most shocking is that you have swallowed Ben Issac's sira wholesale which is really atonishing because all along, you have been abusing the poor basta*d. For a Koran only Mohammadan to write such things is truely amazing.
Sure Qaynuqa were spared, thanks to the intervention of Ibn Ubay or else they would have been hacked as well. BN were driven into exile, while BQ were slaughtered en mass. They were given a choice, either embrace Mohammadanism or get butchered. They obviously chose the latter. If you do not call that ethnic cleansing, then the hell is ethnic cleanising?
Okay, so you saying that Mohd never ordered hits on Kaab Ashraf, Bin Marwan, Abu Rafi, Um Qirfa? Either Ben Issac is lying or you'v forgotten what he wrote, because by the look of things, you seem to accept some of his writings and reject others.
Its not about how kind and loving they were, its whether they killed anyone or not. If they were convicted murderers, then killing them would be justifiable, otherwise not.
You then write:
"There was no order from the Prophet to kill anyone. If killing had been on his mind, blood would have flowed through the streets of Mecca, when the Prophet made the Grand Triumphal Re-Entry
into Mecca. Did he kill all the Meccans or did he carry out ethnic cleansing of Meccans?"
Mohammad had bigger fish to fry. Killing Meccans would have done him no good. The man was an astute politician who'd put Gandhi & Brian Mulrooney to shame. As long as the narcissist is told that you are my prophet and I believe in you, you have nothing to worry. The moment his egotistical desires are fulfilled, he's won and wont hold anything against you. He even spared Hind who had a hand in killing his uncle Hamza. Always keep in mind brother, that the holy Koran says " believe in Allah and his apostle"...not just Allah.
Red Herring!

I took you to task for writing, "and ethnic cleansing of the Jewish tribes was uncalled for."

It was a junk remark!

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