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#9860
Jul 11, 2008
 
Sita wrote:
Comparison of Islam Vrs Hinduism Subject no-9: Sodomy
Hinduism, on the other hand, glorifies sodomy through actions of Hindu god, Siva, who gets other Hindu gods pregnant. The following verse from Saura Purana promotes sodomy among Hindus and their holy men:
"The gods came to Siva and said,'We have all become pregnant and are lactating. Your seed is burning our bodies and we are a laughing-stock, for we are men who have become pregnant. Help us.' Siva smiled and said,'But this is what you wanted. You did not want a son born in the belly of Devi, and so you yourselves have become the place of the embryo." -- Saura Purana 62:5-12.
Inspired by such verses of Hindu scriptures, many gay naked Hindu holy men assemble in big numbers to celebrate mutual nudity. Watch the biggest collection of such freaks in this video:
http://www.lightstalkers.org/images/show/1759...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Since 99% of Menatlly Sick Islamophobics are Indian Hindus (living in India and overseas) who are using Christian and foreign names for posting their self- created and concocted Islamophobia related lies against Islam on this forum and other forums world over; King Kong (Pakistan Forum) has started the above series of subject wise comparison of the Noble Quran and the Weirdest Hindu Scriptures to educate the Mentally Retarded Hindus about Enlightening Quran and their Perverted Hindu Holy Books. Please stay connected as many interesting subjects will be covered by the above comparison of Islam vrs Hinduism.
Good lord...these vile vedics are disgusting...
no wonder they are totally ashamed to admit they are hind-u fanatics - they have a go instead at Abrahamaic people by insulting Muslims...and later attack Christian and Jewish folks.
Team "Rabbi Cohen" and R U B-HIND-U are the ones who first started this project because we have been exposing vile vedic indian hind-u fanatics on here for more than 6 months.
We realised that the main aim of vile vedic hind-us was to create friction and hatred between the Abrahamaic people - Christian/Jewish/Muslim people.
We believe in the G-d of Abraham and Moses unlike the vile hind-us who worship anything and everything starting from a phallus ending up in vag*na...from linga to yoni.
Beware of vile vedic hind-us and stay united dear Abrahamaic children.
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Jul 11, 2008
 
True Teller wrote:
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Do you know When eaten fermented brown rice cake with other foods, either proteins or starches, they are held up in the stomach for a prolonged period, awaiting the digestion of the other foods. This type of eaten almost guarantees acid fermentation.therefore,that is why Millions of Hindu people who eat fermented brown rice cake for breakfast suffer with sour stomach, sour eructation or belching "noisy release of gas from the stomach through the mouth" and other evidences of indigestion.
THE original suicide bomber!
In other words the thammill indian hind-u suicide tigers explode just before tea time after eating fermented indian brown rice cakes soaked in smelly 100 day old curry sauce in the morning?
Watch out there's an exploding hind-u about!

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Jul 11, 2008
 
Deuteronomy 18:14, 17 -“For these nations whom you are dispossessing used to listen to those practicing magic and to those who divine; but as for you,…[Yhwh] your God has not given you anything like this… A prophet I shall raise up for them from the midst of their brothers”

Jeremiah 28:9,9 - "As regards the prophets that happened to be prior to me and prior to you from long ago, they also used to prophesy concerning many lands and concerning great kingdoms, of war and of calamity and of pestilence. As regards of the prophets whom prophesies of peace”

Mathew 5:9 “Happy are the peaceable”

Romans 12:17, 20 -”Return evil for evil to no one… But if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink…”
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) said:
"Do not consider any act of kindness insignificant, even meeting your brother with a cheerful face."

The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: "The most perfect of the believers in faith is the best of them in moral excellence, and the best of you are the kindest of you to their wives.”

Aswad said, I asked A'isha, "What did the Prophet (peace be upon him) do when in his house? She said, he served his wife, meaning that he did work for his wife.(Bukhari)

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "O my people! You have certain rights over your wives and so have your wives over you. They are the trust of Allah in your hands, So you must treat them with kindness." (Muslim)

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "The noblest charity is that a Muslim acquires some knowledge (of the Deen) then imparts it to a brother Muslim."

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "Paradise lies under the feet of the mother."

The Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) said that" if a person has three daughters whom he provides for and brings up, Allah will surely reward him with paradise."

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "Do not glorify me in the same manner as the Christians glorify Jesus, son of Mary, but say,'He is a slave of Allah and His Messenger.' "

The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: "People will not sit remembering Allah without the angels surrounding them, mercy covering them, peace descending on them."

The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: "The search of knowledge is an obligation laid on every Muslim"

The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: "He who goes out in search of knowledge is in Allah's path till he returns."

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "The major sins are associating other objects of worship with Allah, disobedience to parents, murder, and deliberate perjury."

The Prophet (peace be upon him): "He who is not trustworthy has no Faith, and he who does not keep his Covenant has no religion."

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "None of you believes till I am dearer to him than his father, his child and all mankind."
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Allah and Ackbar are the twin gods of chaos, death, and destruction. Together Allah (the great deceiver) and Ackbar (the great destroyer) have created the region of corruption, sorrow, and despair we now know as the middle east. Militants pay homage to this demonic duo and receive blessings by committing acts of murder and suicide. Death, no matter the source, feeds the wicked pair!

Allah Ackbar! Bless and fill us with unholy rage so we may smite our enemies!

But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the Best [Greatest] of Deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30
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Jul 11, 2008
 
I Love Islam wrote:
Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) said:
"Do not consider any act of kindness insignificant, even meeting your brother with a cheerful face."
The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: "The most perfect of the believers in faith is the best of them in moral excellence, and the best of you are the kindest of you to their wives.”
Aswad said, I asked A'isha, "What did the Prophet (peace be upon him) do when in his house? She said, he served his wife, meaning that he did work for his wife.(Bukhari)
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "O my people! You have certain rights over your wives and so have your wives over you. They are the trust of Allah in your hands, So you must treat them with kindness." (Muslim)
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "The noblest charity is that a Muslim acquires some knowledge (of the Deen) then imparts it to a brother Muslim."
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "Paradise lies under the feet of the mother."
The Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) said that" if a person has three daughters whom he provides for and brings up, Allah will surely reward him with paradise."
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "Do not glorify me in the same manner as the Christians glorify Jesus, son of Mary, but say,'He is a slave of Allah and His Messenger.' "
The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: "People will not sit remembering Allah without the angels surrounding them, mercy covering them, peace descending on them."
The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: "The search of knowledge is an obligation laid on every Muslim"
The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: "He who goes out in search of knowledge is in Allah's path till he returns."
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "The major sins are associating other objects of worship with Allah, disobedience to parents, murder, and deliberate perjury."
The Prophet (peace be upon him): "He who is not trustworthy has no Faith, and he who does not keep his Covenant has no religion."
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "None of you believes till I am dearer to him than his father, his child and all mankind."
Arabian Sources
The Quran repeats fanciful Arabian fables as if they were true.
"Arabic legends about the fabulous jinns fill its pages" (G.G. Pfander, Balance of Truth, pp. 283).
"The story of the she-camel who leapt out of a rock and became a prophet was known long before Muhammad" (Suras 7:73-77,85; 91:14; 54:29).
The story of an entire village of people who were turned into apes because they broke the sabbath by fishing was a popular legend in Muhammad's day (Suras 2:65; 7:163-166).
The gushing 12 springs story found in Sura 2:60 comes from pre-Islamic legends.
In what is called the "Rip Van Winkle" story, seven men and their animals slept for 309 years in a cave and then woke up perfectly fine (Sura 18:9-26)! This legend is found in Greek and Christian fables as well as Arabian lore.
The fable of the pieces of four dead, cut-up birds getting up and flying was well known in Muhammad's time (Sura 2:260).
It is also clear that Muhammad used such pre-Islamic literature as the Saba Moallaqat of Imra'ul Cays in his composition of Suras 21:96; 29:31,46; 37:59; 54:1, and 93:1.
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Jewish Sources
Many of the stories in the Quran come from the Jewish Talmud, the Midrash, and many apocryphal works.

This was pointed out by Abraham Geiger in 1833, and further documented by another Jewish scholar, Dr. Abraham Katsh, of New York University, in 1954 (The Concise Dictionary of Islam, p. 229; Jomier, The Bible and the Quran -- Henry Regency Co., Chicago, 1959, 59ff; Sell, Studies, pp. 163ff.; Guillaume, Islam, p. 13).

The source of Sura 3:35-37 is the fanciful book called The Protevangelion's James the Lesser.
The source of Sura 87:19 is the Testament of Abraham.
The source of Sura 27:17-44 is the Second Targum of Esther.
The fantastic tale that God made a man "die for a hundred years" with no ill effects on his food, drink, or donkey was a Jewish fable (Sura 2:259ff.).
The idea that Moses was resurrected and other material came from the Jewish Talmud (Sura 2:55, 56, 67).
The story in Sura 5:30,31 can also be found in pre-Islamic works from Pirke Rabbi Eleazer, the Targum of Jonathan ben Uzziah and the Targum of Jerusalem.
The tale of Abraham being delivered from Nimrod's fire came from the Midrash Rabbah (see Suras 21:51-71; 29:16, 17; 37:97,98). It must be also pointed out that Nimrod and Abraham did not live at the same time. Muhammad was always mixing people together in the Quran who did not live at the same time.
The non-biblical details of the visit of the Queen of Sheba (Saba) in Sura 27:20-44 came from the Second Targum of the Book of Esther.
The source of Sura 2:102 is no doubt the Midrash Yalkut (chapter 44).
The story found in Sura 7:171 of God lifting up Mount Sinai and holding it over the heads of the Jews as a threat to squash them if they rejected the law came from the Jewish book Abodah Sarah.
The story of the making of the golden calf in the wilderness, in which the image jumped out of the fire fully formed and actually mooed (Suras 7:148; 20:88), came from Pirke Rabbi Eleazer.
The seven heavens and hells described in the Quran came from the Zohar and the Hagigah.
Muhammad utilized the Testament of Abraham to teach that a scale or balance will be used on the day of judgment to weigh good and bad deeds in order to determine whether one goes to heaven or hell (Suras 42:17; 101:6-9).
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Heretical Christian Sources
One of the most documented and damaging facts about the Quran is that Muhammad used heretical "Christian" Gnostic gospels and their fables for material in the Quran.

Encyclopedia Britannica comments: "The gospel was known to him chiefly through apocryphal and heretical sources" (15:648).
This has been demonstrated many times by various scholars (Richard Bell, Introduction to the Quran, pp. 163ff. See also: Bell, The Origin of Islam in Its Christian Environment, pp. 110ff, 139ff; Sell, Studies, pp. 216ff. See also Tisdall and Pfander).

For example, in Suras 3:49 and 100:11O, the baby Jesus speaks from the cradle! Later on, the Quran has Jesus making clay birds come alive.
The Bible tells us that the first miracle Jesus did was at the wedding at Cana (John 2:11).




Sabean Sources
Muhammad incorporated parts of the religion of the Sabeans into Islam (Encyclopedia off Islam (ed. Eliade), pp. 303ff.; International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, pp. 1:219ff.).

He adopted such pagan rituals as:

Worshiping at Kabah
Praying five times a day towards Mecca (Muhammad chose five of the same times the Sabeans prayed).
Fasting for part of a day for an entire month.




Eastern Religious Sources
Muhammad derived some of his ideas from Eastern religions such as Zoroastrianism and Hinduism. All of these things were in existence long before Muhammad was born.

The Quran records the following things which are ascribed to Muhammad but in reality were previously known stories now attributed to him for the first time (Sell, Studies, pp. 219ff.).

The story of a flying trip through seven heavens.
The Houries of paradise.
Azazil and other spirits coming up from Hades.
The "light" of Muhammad.
The bridge of Sirat.
Paradise with its wine, women, and song (from the Persians).
The king of death.
The peacock story.
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Some of the pre-Islamic Sources for material in the Quran
Arabian Sources
The Quran repeats fanciful Arabian fables as if they were true.
"Arabic legends about the fabulous jinns fill its pages" (G.G. Pfander, Balance of Truth, pp. 283).
"The story of the she-camel who leapt out of a rock and became a prophet was known long before Muhammad" (Suras 7:73-77,85; 91:14; 54:29).
The story of an entire village of people who were turned into apes because they broke the sabbath by fishing was a popular legend in Muhammad's day (Suras 2:65; 7:163-166).
The gushing 12 springs story found in Sura 2:60 comes from pre-Islamic legends.
In what is called the "Rip Van Winkle" story, seven men and their animals slept for 309 years in a cave and then woke up perfectly fine (Sura 18:9-26)!
This legend is found in Greek and Christian fables as well as Arabian lore.
The fable of the pieces of four dead, cut-up birds getting up and flying was well known in Muhammad's time (Sura 2:260).
It is also clear that Muhammad used such pre-Islamic literature as the Saba Moallaqat of Imra'ul Cays in his composition of Suras 21:96; 29:31,46; 37:59; 54:1, and 93:1.
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Jewish Sources
Many of the stories in the Quran come from the Jewish Talmud, the Midrash, and many apocryphal works.
This was pointed out by Abraham Geiger in 1833, and further documented by another Jewish scholar, Dr. Abraham Katsh, of New York University, in 1954 (The Concise Dictionary of Islam, p. 229; Jomier, The Bible and the Quran -- Henry Regency Co., Chicago, 1959, 59ff; Sell, Studies, pp. 163ff.; Guillaume, Islam, p. 13).
1. The source of Sura 3:35-37 is the fanciful book called The Protevangelion's James the Lesser.
2. The source of Sura 87:19 is the Testament of Abraham.
3. The source of Sura 27:17-44 is the Second Targum of Esther.
4. The fantastic tale that God made a man "die for a hundred years" with no ill effects on his food, drink, or donkey was a Jewish fable (Sura 2:259ff.).
5. The idea that Moses was resurrected and other material came from the Jewish Talmud (Sura 2:55, 56, 67).
6. The story in Sura 5:30,31 can also be found in pre-Islamic works from Pirke Rabbi Eleazer, the Targum of Jonathan ben Uzziah and the Targum of Jerusalem.
7. The tale of Abraham being delivered from Nimrod's fire came from the Midrash Rabbah (see Suras 21:51-71; 29:16, 17; 37:97,98).
It must be also pointed out that Nimrod and Abraham did not live at the same time. Muhammad was always mixing people together in the Quran who did not live at the same time.
8. The non-biblical details of the visit of the Queen of Sheba (Saba) in Sura 27:20-44 came from the Second Targum of the Book of Esther.
9. The source of Sura 2:102 is no doubt the Midrash Yalkut (chapter 44).
10. The story found in Sura 7:171 of God lifting up Mount Sinai and holding it over the heads of the Jews as a threat to squash them if they rejected the law came from the Jewish book Abodah Sarah.
11. The story of the making of the golden calf in the wilderness, in which the image jumped out of the fire fully formed and actually mooed (Suras 7:148; 20:88), came from Pirke Rabbi Eleazer.
12, The seven heavens and hells described in the Quran came from the Zohar and the Hagigah.
13. Muhammad utilized the Testament of Abraham to teach that a scale or balance will be used on the day of judgment to weigh good and bad deeds in order to determine whether one goes to heaven or hell (Suras 42:17; 101:6-9).
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Heretical Christian Sources
One of the most documented and damaging facts about the Quran is that Muhammad used heretical "Christian" Gnostic gospels and their fables for material in the Quran.
Encyclopedia Britannica comments:
"The gospel was known to him chiefly through apocryphal and heretical sources" (15:648).
This has been demonstrated many times by various scholars (Richard Bell, Introduction to the Quran, pp. 163ff. See also: Bell, The Origin of Islam in Its Christian Environment, pp. 110ff, 139ff; Sell, Studies, pp. 216ff. See also Tisdall and Pfander).
For example, in Suras 3:49 and 100:11O, the baby Jesus speaks from the cradle! Later on, the Quran has Jesus making clay birds come alive.
The Bible tells us that the first miracle Jesus did was at the wedding at Cana (John 2:11).
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Sabean Sources
Muhammad incorporated parts of the religion of the Sabeans into Islam (Encyclopedia off Islam (ed. Eliade), pp. 303ff.; International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, pp. 1:219ff.).
He adopted such pagan rituals as:
Worshiping at Kabah
Praying five times a day towards Mecca (Muhammad chose five of the same times the Sabeans prayed).
Fasting for part of a day for an entire month.
Eastern Religious Sources
Muhammad derived some of his ideas from Eastern religions such as Zoroastrianism and Hinduism. All of these things were in existence long before Muhammad was born.
The Quran records the following things which are ascribed to Muhammad but in reality were previously known stories now attributed to him for the first time (Sell, Studies, pp. 219ff.).
The story of a flying trip through seven heavens.
The Houries of paradise.
Azazil and other spirits coming up from Hades.
The "light" of Muhammad.
The bridge of Sirat.
Paradise with its wine, women, and song (from the Persians).
The king of death.
The peacock story.
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Arab Racism
According to the literal Arabic translation of Sura 3:106, 107, on Judgment Day, only people with white faces will be saved. People with black faces will be damned.


(The core references are from "The Islamic Invasion" by Dr. Robert Morey, 1992, pp 211-218 Buy his book.)

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Jul 11, 2008
 
Allah is Dictatorial, Racist and Misogynistic

A woman is a servant and the husband is the person served

You can enjoy a wife by force

Maintenance of a wife is the custody for the purpose of enjoyment

If you marry a pregnant woman then her vagina is lawful if you pay the dowry, after she gives birth, flog her; the child becomes your slave

Women are your prisoners, treat them well, if necessary beat them but not severely

A woman must immediately respond to her husband’s demand for sex even when she is in the midst of baking bread in an oven

If the wife annoys and torments her husband then the husband will enter paradise

If the husband dies being pleased with his wife then the wife will enter paradise

If a woman wears perfume and attends a party, she is an adulteress

Virgins have the sweetest mouths, the most prolific wombs and are easily satisfied with very little; so marry them

running out of space here... read much much more:

http://www.islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/BismiAll...
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Steven wrote:
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Since Muslims are able to say what they want, we can too.
Here what it appears might have happened.
Muhammed comes 600 years after Christ and the Bible.
He hears of the power and all the people following and adoring Jesus and everyone gathering around in the thousands.
So one day Muhammed decides to come up with his own holy book, the Koran.
Muhammed father-in-law uses much of the wisdom found in the Bible
and put it in their own words, not the same, but too in many comparison
verses and suras familar to say otherwise.
Muhammed heard how submissive the followers of Jesus was to their King.
Submit-Islam.
Now the pagan Moongod worshippers have their holy book, and yet they are still trying to rip off Christianity by putting their Moongod in our Bible and it is not going to fly with us
True Believers of the Holy Trinity- God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.
Three NATURES OF ONE GOD, just too complex for human mind to comprehend.
Thus God-YHVH, ELOHIM, ADONAI , JEHOVAH, not Allah, give His followers
discernment for the Truth and opens their heart and eyes.
Grace and Peace to you.
First post of your own composition after may be 100 pages of cut and paste!!!

Needless to say, that your post is full with errors and assumptions, that indicates true level of your knowledge if you do not cut and paste!!

First the prophet did not know how to read or how to write, he had no known tutor in the world.

Then Makkah was a predominately Pagan city, there was hardly any Christian influence there. So your assumption that he heard of respect which Christians gives to Jesus falls apart.

Then his Father in Law was dead before revelation started.

Rest of your post can only be referred as “Comedy Of Errors”

That is why I think you are in Wholesale Business of “Cut and Paste” Industry. You should at least read what you Cut and paste for others!!!

It would have replied to many of your errors!!!
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Moiz Qidwai wrote:
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First post of your own composition after may be 100 pages of cut and paste!!!
Needless to say, that your post is full with errors and assumptions, that indicates true level of your knowledge if you do not cut and paste!!
First the prophet did not know how to read or how to write, he had no known tutor in the world.
Then Makkah was a predominately Pagan city, there was hardly any Christian influence there. So your assumption that he heard of respect which Christians gives to Jesus falls apart.
Then his Father in Law was dead before revelation started.
Rest of your post can only be referred as “Comedy Of Errors”
That is why I think you are in Wholesale Business of “Cut and Paste” Industry. You should at least read what you Cut and paste for others!!!
It would have replied to many of your errors!!!
Next your brilliance will tell me he could not hear. He was an epileptic and had seizures not divine revelation. Sorry.
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Moiz Qidwai wrote:
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First post of your own composition after may be 100 pages of cut and paste!!!
Needless to say, that your post is full with errors and assumptions, that indicates true level of your knowledge if you do not cut and paste!!
First the prophet did not know how to read or how to write, he had no known tutor in the world.
Then Makkah was a predominately Pagan city, there was hardly any Christian influence there. So your assumption that he heard of respect which Christians gives to Jesus falls apart.
Then his Father in Law was dead before revelation started.
Rest of your post can only be referred as “Comedy Of Errors”
That is why I think you are in Wholesale Business of “Cut and Paste” Industry. You should at least read what you Cut and paste for others!!!
It would have replied to many of your errors!!!
Next you will tell me no ever traveled near Makkah from distance regions. Right.

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Jul 11, 2008
 
the pagan origins of islam are well known and a surprise to no one

"Islam was created both from these crude pagan practices and from the basic theological elements of Christianity and Judaism as Muhammad understood them (often erroneously*- his inaccurate interpretation of Christianity, for example, is often attributed to an early experience with fringe cults in the Palestinian region, then known as Syria)."

*A Partial List of Problems and Contradictions in the Quran

http://www.rim.org/muslim/quranproblems.htm
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Jeffery Wright wrote:
Allah is Dictatorial, Racist and Misogynistic
A woman is a servant and the husband is the person served
You can enjoy a wife by force
Maintenance of a wife is the custody for the purpose of enjoyment
If you marry a pregnant woman then her vagina is lawful if you pay the dowry, after she gives birth, flog her; the child becomes your slave
Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.

So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about.

Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.

Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".

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Jul 11, 2008
 
atheist wrote:
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Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.
the word which the NIV translates as rape comes from two Hebrew words, taphas and shakab. taphas = to catch, handle, lay hold, take hold of, seize, wield. shakab does not necessarily imply a forced sexual act, the word shakab refers to a voluntary sexual act between two consenting parties. this is a verse about adultery, genius.
Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".
simply another adultery law, pretty harsh, but there it is. is that all you have? the qoran and hadith are teeming with rape-y goodness, from their very 'prophet' himself

and so much in the koran justifies punishing the rape victim with death, and backed up by modern practices which are far from rare

know of any christians killed in the name of allah for adultery? in the last year? decade? century? millenia?

i thought not

lets try and keep up, shall we?

old testament = old covenant, get with the program
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