Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 207,193

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Alex WM

London, UK

#212326 Aug 4, 2014
El Cid wrote:
Islam is the most violently intolerant and cruelly oppressive religion on earth.
Prove me wrong.
Christianity has been the most violently intolerant and cruelly oppressive religion on earth for nearly 2000 years.
Prove me wrong
Alex WM

London, UK

#212327 Aug 4, 2014
El Cid wrote:
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List _of_Killings_Ordered_or_Suppor ted_by_Muhammad
List of Killings Ordered or Supported by Muhammad
You are a saddo!
We talked about Moses from YOUR bible.
We talked about BJ the incompetent coward from YOUR bible.
Your god is a murderer!
Your god was such a coward that he had to rape an innocent girl to make himself a son to MURDER!!!
As a result "Christians" have been MURDERING JEWISH people in their MILLIONS as CHRIST KILLERS!!!
Alex WM

London, UK

#212328 Aug 4, 2014
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>
Take your meds.
When you can't answer ANYTHING you resort to your pathetic one liners.
You are an uneducated fool who hasn't left his home except to buy some bread and milk!!!.
That is VERY obvious.

We talked about Moses from YOUR bible.
We talked about BJ the incompetent coward from YOUR bible.
Your god is a murderer!
Your god was such a coward that he had to rape an innocent girl to make himself a son to MURDER!!!
As a result "Christians" have been MURDERING JEWISH people in their MILLIONS as CHRIST KILLERS!!!

Have you ever managed to leave your tin hut to see the world?
You are such a frog in the well.
What you think about me is irrelevant, my little uneducated woodworker...
Your brain is incapable of processing a few hard facts.
The sphere of influence of some crafty people is quite huge and insidious.
I didn't say that Christians hate islam more than they hate other religions!!
But in your case YOU do and that comes through in your uneducated half baked light weight error filled comments.
Now READ these carefully...
Anti Semitic Le Dic who is supporting the Ant Semitic MURDERERS?
Why....?
The AshkeNAZI converts who are very unlikely to be Semitic are MURDERING the SEMITIC Arabs-Palestinians.
Now you know what they are doing to Gaza!
Media war:
- MURDER the semitics and then point fingers elsewhere saying "you are anti Semitic"!!
- DESTROY life, land and livelihood of Semitic people using the most sophisticated army with weaponry supplied FREE of CHARGE by the Americans, saying "they are attacking us with stones and rockets!!(the stones and rockets are really from the stone age)!!
(the ratio of murder is 40 Semitic:1 Anti-semitic convert)!!
- Hiding statistcis: Just look at almost all seats of power in the USA and UK. These are controlled by the anti semitic converts but they claim that they constitute a very tiny minority of less than are only a few of them in the world!!!
- An extension of OT Moses the mass murderer (who stole 32000 virgin girls over the age of 3 for use by him and his "team" Numbers 31:35 and killed thousands....Oh, when he consults "god" he is given concessions and lands galore! I am sure he looks in the mirror, talks to himself and then says LORD spoke to me...LORD in most instances seem to be Old Mossy baby!!)
: Mass murderer Benjamin Netanyahu who claims to be related to Judah is obviously related to BJ who is also related to Judah!!!!
Mass murderer Ben Natanyahu follows the OT to the old "T"!!! KILL KILL KILL, DESTROY GENTILES and PROPERTY...TAKE OVER LAND and BUILD SETTLEMENTS, like the LORD promised!!
NUMBERS 32...
20Then Moses said to them,“If you will do this—if you will arm yourselves before the Lord for battle
21and if all of you who are armed cross over the Jordan before the Lord until he has driven his enemies out before him—
22then when the land is subdued before the Lord, you may return and be free from your obligation to the Lord and to Israel. And this land will be your possession before the Lord.
23“But if you fail to do this, you will be sinning against the Lord; and you may be sure that your sin will find you out.
24Build cities for your women and children, and pens for your flocks, but do what you have promised.”......
So on an so forth...the settlements EXPAND thanks partly to fools who carry OT!
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#212329 Aug 4, 2014
Alex WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Christianity has been the most violently intolerant and cruelly oppressive religion on earth for nearly 2000 years.
Prove me wrong
Just ask the CHRISTIANS who live in Constantinople, oh, excuse me, it's ISTANBUL.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#212330 Aug 4, 2014
Alex WM wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a saddo!
We talked about Moses from YOUR bible.
We talked about BJ the incompetent coward from YOUR bible.
Your god is a murderer!
Your god was such a coward that he had to rape an innocent girl to make himself a son to MURDER!!!
As a result "Christians" have been MURDERING JEWISH people in their MILLIONS as CHRIST KILLERS!!!
You are deeply ill, imho. filled with irrational anger and hatred. You need professional help. What else can I say, except that I hope that you find it soon?

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#212331 Aug 4, 2014
Alex WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Christianity has been the most violently intolerant and cruelly oppressive religion on earth for nearly 2000 years.
Prove me wrong
Islam's attack on Christianity

For the Christian states bordering the Mediterranean, it was a four-hundred and sixty-three year period of regular, disorganized [and occasionally organized] bloody incursions by Muslim mainly Arab and Berber land and sea forces. These came intent on booty - gold, silver, precious stones and slaves - on destroying churches, convents and shrines of the 'infidels,' and on the spread of politico-religious Islam throughout Europe from their bases in the Mediterranean and the Adriatic.

At the time of Muhammad's death there were flourishing Christian and Jewish communities in Arabia, and throughout the major centres of the Persian Empire. The whole of the Mediterranean world on its European, Asian and African sides, was predominantly Christian.

It had taken only a few years for Muslim tribesmen from Arabia, inspired by Muhammad's revelations and example, to invade the Eastern Roman or Byzantine Empire whose emperors devoted more time to religious disputation than to defending their empire. In 633 Mesopotamia fell. After a few years the entire Persian Empire fell to the marauding Arab tribesmen who drove the young Persian emperor Yazdagird into the farthest reaches of his empire, to Sogdiana [Uzbekistan], where he was eventually murdered by his Tartar bodyguard in a miller's hut.

Damascus fell in 635, and Jerusalem capitulated five years after Muhammad died, in February 638.

The fall of Alexandria in 643 sounded the death knell of more than thousand years of Hellenic civilization that once enriched the whole of the Near East with its scholarship and culture. Henri Daniel-Rops claims that from the point of view of the history of civilization, Alexandria's fall was as significant as the fall of Constantinople to the Turks eight-hundred years later.[4]

Cyprus fell in 648-9 and Rhodes in 653. By 698 the whole of North Africa was lost.

Spain invaded

Less than eighty years after Muhammad's death, in 711, Muslims from Tangiers poured across the 13 km wide strait of Gibraltar into Spain. By 721 this Arab-Berber horde had overthrown the ruling Catholic Visigoths and, with the fall of Saragossa, set their sights on southern France.

By 720 Narbonne had fallen. Bordeaux was stormed and its churches burnt down by 'Abd al-Rahman ibn Abdullah al-Ghafiqi in early spring 732. A basilica outside the walls of Poitiers was razed, and 'Abd al-Rahman headed for Tours which held the body of St Martin [who died in 397] apostle and patron saint of the Franks.

He was to be defeated and killed by Charles Martel and his Frankish army on a Saturday in October, 732, one hundred years after Muhammad's death, on the road from Poitiers to Tours a defeat that was hailed by Gibbon and others as decisive in turning back the Muslim tide from Europe.

Attacks on France, however, continued, and in 734 Avignon was captured by an Arab force. Lyons was sacked in 743. It wasn't until 759 that the Arabs were driven out of Narbonne. Marseilles was plundered by them in 838.

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Islam's attack on Christianity

Muslim incursions into Italy had been a feature of life from the early 800s. The islands of Ponza [off Gaeta] and Ischia [off Naples] had been plundered, and then, in 813 Civitavecchia, the port of Rome, whose harbour had been constructed by Trajan, was sacked by the Arabs.

In 826 the island of Crete fell to Muslim forces which retained it as their base until 961. From around 827 they then began nibbling at Sicily. They captured Messina and controlled the Strait of Messina by 842, and finally took the whole island in 859, after Enna fell to them.

In 836 the Neapolitans self-interestedly invited the Muslim forces to help them against the Lombards and set the stage for more than a century of Muslims raids along the Adriatic, involving the destruction of Ancona, and Muslim progress as far as the mouth of the Po.'Saracen Towers'[5] south of Naples, built in the ninth century to warn locals of the approach of Arab fleets from Sicily and Africa still charm visitors to the Neapolitan coast.

Bari, now home to the relics of St Nicholas of Myra, the original 'Father Christmas,' fell to Khalfun, a Berber chieftan, by another act of treachery in 840. From 853-871 the notorious Muslim brigand al- Mufarraj bin Sallam, and his successor, another Berber named Sawdan, controlled all the coast from Bari down to Reggio Calabria, and terrorized Southern Italy. They even plundered the Abbey of St Michael on Mt Gargano. They claimed the title of Emir, and independence of the Emir in Palermo.

Sacking of St Peter's

Naples herself had to beat off a Muslim attack in 837. But in 846 Rome was not to be so fortunate. On August 23rd 846, Arab squadrons from Africa arrived at Ostia, at the Tiber's mouth. There were 73 ships. The Saracen force numbered 11,000 warriors, with 500 horses.[6]

The most revered Christian shrines outside the Holy Land, the tombs of Sts Peter and Paul, were desecrated and their respective Basilicas were sacked, as was the Lateran Basilica along with numerous other churches and public buildings.

The very altar over the body of St Peter was smashed to pieces, and the great door of St Peter's Basilica was stripped of its silver plates. Romans were desolated and Christendom was shocked at the barbarism of the Muslim forces.

Three years later Pope Leo IV [847-855] formed an alliance with Naples, Amalfi and Gaeta, and when a Saracen fleet again appeared at the mouth of the Tiber in 849, the Papal fleet joined forces with its allies and they repelled the Muslim fleet which turned, and ran into a violent wind-storm that destroyed it, like Pharaoh's army long before.

Survivors were brought to Rome and put to work helping to build the Leonine Wall around the Vatican. Twelve feet thick, nearly forty feet in height and defended by forty-four towers, most of this wall, and two of the round towers, can be seen still by visitors to the Vatican. These defensive walls were finished and blessed by Pope Leo IV in 852.

Taranto in Apulia was conquered by Arab forces in 846. They held it until 880.

In 870 Malta was captured by the Muslims. In 871 Bari, the Saracens' capital on mainland Italy, was recaptured from the Muslims by Emperor Louis II, who in 872 was to defeat a Saracen fleet off Capua.

223 years from the First Crusade

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#212334 Aug 4, 2014
Islam's attack on Christianity

Returning from a synod at Ravenna [February 882] Pope John VIII found, as he put it, that 'the Saracens are as much at home in Fundi [close to Rome, in Latium] and Terracina'[80 km SE of Rome] as in Africa.'Though we were seriously unwell,' wrote the Pope, we went forth to battle with our forces, captured eighteen of the enemy's ships, and slew a great many of their men'.[10] Six hundred captives of the Saracens were liberated.

Syracuse fell to the Muslims in 878 after a nine-month siege from which few escaped alive. The Byzantine city was pillaged and destroyed. Its collapse freed-up more numerous bands of marauding Muslims to harry the Italian towns and cities.

880 saw victory over Saracen forces at Naples by Byzantine Commanders and also the arrival in waters off Rome of warships sent by the emperor Basil to give the Pope the means of defending 'the territory of St Peter'.[11]

Meanwhile, the Saracens had turned their attention again to southern France and northern Italy. They had taken Avignon in 734 and Marseilles in 838 and they were ravaging Provence and North Italy from their bases in the Alps. The most important of these bases was Fraxineto or Frejus, not far from Toulon, which they captured in 889.

They were displaced temporarily from their base in 942 by Hugh of Arles who had a Byzantine fleet harry them from the sea, while he attacked from land. Horace Mann comments[12] that it is symptomatic of the kind of pragmatic leaders who controlled the destiny of Europe at that time, that instead of wiping out this bloodthirsty band of Muslim invaders, Hugh allowed them to stay where they were on condition that they did all they could to prevent his rival as 'king of Italy,' Berengerius Marquis of Ivrea, from returning to Italy.

The latter managed to return from Germany to Italy in 945, and the Muslims were not to be expelled completely from their lair until 972 - almost one-hundred years after capturing Fraxineto - by a league of Italian and Provencal princes.

In the meantime they infested the passes of the Alps, robbing and murdering pilgrims on their way to Rome. In 921 a large band of Englishmen, on pilgrimage to the tombs of the Apostles in Rome, were crushed to death under rocks rolled down on them by Saracens in the passes of the Alps.[13]

174 years from the First Crusade

At this point in the alleged peaceful coexistence between Muslims and Christians, we are still one-hundred and seventy-four years away from the calling of the first Crusade to free the Holy Places.

Meanwhile, Muslim fleets sacked and destroyed Demetrias in Thessaly, Central Greece, in 902, and Thessalonica the second city of the Byzantine Empire fell to them in 904. Muslim armies took Hysela in Carsiana in 887, and Amasia, the metropolitan city of Pontus in Asia Minor.

The bishop of Amasia named Malecenus wanted to ransom those of his people who had been captured but knew that the Byzantine Emperor Leo VI would not help; so he appealed to Pope Benedict IV in Rome.

The Pope received him kindly, and gave him an encyclical letter addressed to all bishops, abbots, counts and judges and to all orthodox professors of the Christian faith asking them to show Malacenus every consideration, and to see him safely from one city to the next.

In 905 Pope Sergius III helped Bishop Hildebrand of Silva Candida restore some of the damage done to his See by the ravaging Saracens who had devastated the Church of Silva Candida in the neighbourhood of Rome.

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#212335 Aug 4, 2014
Islam's attack on Christianity
In 915 Pope John X successfully created a Christian League with the help of Byzantine Admiral Picingli and his fleet. Even the bickering princes of southern Italy joined forces against the Saracens, along with King Berengarius and his armies from North Italy. The enemy were holed-up in their fortresses on the Garigliano near Gaeta, north of Naples. After three months of blockade, they tried to fight their way out only to be repelled by a victorious Christian force.
In 934 the Fatimid imam al-Ka'im planned an audacious invasion of Liguria led by Ya'kub bin Ishaq. The latter attacked Genoa that year, and took it in 935.
It wasn't until 972 that Duke William of Provence succeeded in driving the Saracens finally from the fastnesses of Faxineto. In 976 the Fatimid Caliphs of Egypt had sent fresh Muslim expeditions into southern Italy. Initially the German emperor Otho II , who had set up his headquarters in Rome, successfully defeated these Saracen forces, but in July 982 he was ambushed and his army was almost cut to pieces.
In 977 Sergius, Archbishop of Damascus, was expelled from his See by the Muslims. Pope Benedict VII gave him the ancient church of St Alexius on Rome's Aventine hill, and he founded a monastery there and placed it under Benedictine rule, with himself its first abbot.
The pontificate of Pope John XVIII [1003-1009] was marred by famine and plague and by marauding bands of Saracens who plundered the Italian coast from Pisa to Rome from bases on Sardinia.
By 1010 they had seized Cosenza in southern Italy. Then Sardinia fell to the Arabs in 1015, led by a certain Abu Hosein Mogehid [thus the Latin Chronicles]. I take this person to be Mujahid bin 'Abd Allah whom Arab sources credit with the invasion. The Saracen force based on Sardinia, over the next few years, torched Pisa, seized Luna in northern Tuscany, and ravaged the land. Pope Benedict VIII managed to assemble a fleet and challenged the Saracen chief who turned tail and fled to Sardinia, leaving his fleet at the mercy of the papal force which was victorious.
Mujahid bin 'Abd Allah then sent the Pope a bag of chestnuts and a message that he would arrive in the following summer with as many soldiers as there were nuts in the bag. Benedict accepted the chestnuts and sent back a bag of rice:'If your master,' he said to the astonished messenger,'isn't satisfied with the damage he has done to the dowry of the Apostle, let him come again and he will find an armed warrior for every grain of rice'.
The Pope did not wait for an answer but carried the war into the enemy's territory. He co-opted the combined fleets of Pisa and Genoa and they sailed for Sardinia in 1017 only to find Mujahid in the act of crucifying Christians on Sardinia. The Muslim leader fled to Africa, and Sardinia was occupied by the Pisans. Mujahid kept trying to re-take Sardinia until 1050 when he was captured by the Pisans and the island was made over to them by the Pope.
Muslims from Spain sacked Antibes in 1003. They sacked Pisa in 1005 and 1016, and Narbonne in 1020.
Sometime around 1025 Pope John XIX granted the pallium [sign of Ecclesiastical jurisdiction] to Archbishop Peter of Gerona in northeast Spain, on condition that he redeemed Christian captives of the Saracens as he had promised the Pope when he had come on his 'ad limina' visit.
The First Crusade what made it a reality
The four-hundred and sixty-three years that elapsed between Muhammad's death in 632 and the calling of a Crusade to free the Holy Places in 1095 was not a time of 'peaceful co-existence' between Muslims and European or Byzantine Christians. Nor was it, for Christians living in Muslim-occupied territories. They enjoyed 'peace' only by keeping the lowest possible profile, paying the jizya, or head-tax, and accepting nonperson status in lands that had been Christian before the Muslim invaders arrived.

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#212336 Aug 4, 2014
Islam's attack on Christianity

Returning from a synod at Ravenna [February 882] Pope John VIII found, as he put it, that 'the Saracens are as much at home in Fundi [close to Rome, in Latium] and Terracina'[80 km SE of Rome] as in Africa.'Though we were seriously unwell,' wrote the Pope, we went forth to battle with our forces, captured eighteen of the enemy's ships, and slew a great many of their men'.[10] Six hundred captives of the Saracens were liberated.

Syracuse fell to the Muslims in 878 after a nine-month siege from which few escaped alive. The Byzantine city was pillaged and destroyed. Its collapse freed-up more numerous bands of marauding Muslims to harry the Italian towns and cities.

880 saw victory over Saracen forces at Naples by Byzantine Commanders and also the arrival in waters off Rome of warships sent by the emperor Basil to give the Pope the means of defending 'the territory of St Peter'.[11]

Meanwhile, the Saracens had turned their attention again to southern France and northern Italy. They had taken Avignon in 734 and Marseilles in 838 and they were ravaging Provence and North Italy from their bases in the Alps. The most important of these bases was Fraxineto or Frejus, not far from Toulon, which they captured in 889.

They were displaced temporarily from their base in 942 by Hugh of Arles who had a Byzantine fleet harry them from the sea, while he attacked from land. Horace Mann comments[12] that it is symptomatic of the kind of pragmatic leaders who controlled the destiny of Europe at that time, that instead of wiping out this bloodthirsty band of Muslim invaders, Hugh allowed them to stay where they were on condition that they did all they could to prevent his rival as 'king of Italy,' Berengerius Marquis of Ivrea, from returning to Italy.

The latter managed to return from Germany to Italy in 945, and the Muslims were not to be expelled completely from their lair until 972 - almost one-hundred years after capturing Fraxineto - by a league of Italian and Provencal princes.

In the meantime they infested the passes of the Alps, robbing and murdering pilgrims on their way to Rome. In 921 a large band of Englishmen, on pilgrimage to the tombs of the Apostles in Rome, were crushed to death under rocks rolled down on them by Saracens in the passes of the Alps.[13]

174 years from the First Crusade

At this point in the alleged peaceful coexistence between Muslims and Christians, we are still one-hundred and seventy-four years away from the calling of the first Crusade to free the Holy Places.

Meanwhile, Muslim fleets sacked and destroyed Demetrias in Thessaly, Central Greece, in 902, and Thessalonica the second city of the Byzantine Empire fell to them in 904. Muslim armies took Hysela in Carsiana in 887, and Amasia, the metropolitan city of Pontus in Asia Minor.

The bishop of Amasia named Malecenus wanted to ransom those of his people who had been captured but knew that the Byzantine Emperor Leo VI would not help; so he appealed to Pope Benedict IV in Rome.

The Pope received him kindly, and gave him an encyclical letter addressed to all bishops, abbots, counts and judges and to all orthodox professors of the Christian faith asking them to show Malacenus every consideration, and to see him safely from one city to the next.

In 905 Pope Sergius III helped Bishop Hildebrand of Silva Candida restore some of the damage done to his See by the ravaging Saracens who had devastated the Church of Silva Candida in the neighbourhood of Rome.

In 915 Pope John X successfully created a Christian League with the help of Byzantine Admiral Picingli and his fleet. Even the bickering princes of southern Italy joined forces against the Saracens, along with King Berengarius and his armies from North Italy. The enemy were holed-up in their fortresses on the Garigliano near Gaeta, north of Naples. After three months of blockade, they tried to fight their way out only to be repelled by a victorious Christian force.
Alex WM

London, UK

#212337 Aug 4, 2014
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>You are deeply ill, imho. filled with irrational anger and hatred. You need professional help. What else can I say, except that I hope that you find it soon?
It is quite obvious that you are a very sick person.
All you do is to fantacize with a set of meaningless Hadiths and ejaculate non stop!!

Here is something to drip on...
We talked about Moses from YOUR bible.
We talked about BJ the incompetent coward from YOUR bible.
Your god is a murderer!
Your sex starved god was such a coward that he had to rape an innocent girl to make himself a son to MURDER!!!
As a result "Christians" have been MURDERING JEWISH people in their MILLIONS as CHRIST KILLERS!!!
Alex WM

London, UK

#212338 Aug 4, 2014
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>Just ask the CHRISTIANS who live in Constantinople, oh, excuse me, it's ISTANBUL.
When you can't answer ANYTHING you resort to your pathetic one liners.
You are an uneducated fool who hasn't left his home except to buy some bread and milk!!!.
That is VERY obvious.

We talked about Moses from YOUR bible.
We talked about BJ the incompetent coward from YOUR bible.
Your god is a murderer!
Your god was such a coward that he had to rape an innocent girl to make himself a son to MURDER!!!
As a result "Christians" have been MURDERING JEWISH people in their MILLIONS as CHRIST KILLERS!!!

Have you ever managed to leave your tin hut to see the world?
You are such a frog in the well.
What you think about me is irrelevant, my little uneducated woodworker...
Your brain is incapable of processing a few hard facts.
The sphere of influence of some crafty people is quite huge and insidious.
I didn't say that Christians hate islam more than they hate other religions!!
But in your case YOU do and that comes through in your uneducated half baked light weight error filled comments.
Now READ these carefully...
Anti Semitic Le Dic who is supporting the Ant Semitic MURDERERS?
Why....?
The AshkeNAZI converts who are very unlikely to be Semitic are MURDERING the SEMITIC Arabs-Palestinians.
Now you know what they are doing to Gaza!
Media war:
- MURDER the semitics and then point fingers elsewhere saying "you are anti Semitic"!!
- DESTROY life, land and livelihood of Semitic people using the most sophisticated army with weaponry supplied FREE of CHARGE by the Americans, saying "they are attacking us with stones and rockets!!(the stones and rockets are really from the stone age)!!
(the ratio of murder is 40 Semitic:1 Anti-semitic convert)!!
- Hiding statistcis: Just look at almost all seats of power in the USA and UK. These are controlled by the anti semitic converts but they claim that they constitute a very tiny minority of less than are only a few of them in the world!!!
- An extension of OT Moses the mass murderer (who stole 32000 virgin girls over the age of 3 for use by him and his "team" Numbers 31:35 and killed thousands....Oh, when he consults "god" he is given concessions and lands galore! I am sure he looks in the mirror, talks to himself and then says LORD spoke to me...LORD in most instances seem to be Old Mossy baby!!)
: Mass murderer Benjamin Netanyahu who claims to be related to Judah is obviously related to BJ who is also related to Judah!!!!
Mass murderer Ben Natanyahu follows the OT to the old "T"!!! KILL KILL KILL, DESTROY GENTILES and PROPERTY...TAKE OVER LAND and BUILD SETTLEMENTS, like the LORD promised!!
NUMBERS 32...
20Then Moses said to them,“If you will do this—if you will arm yourselves before the Lord for battle
21and if all of you who are armed cross over the Jordan before the Lord until he has driven his enemies out before him—
22then when the land is subdued before the Lord, you may return and be free from your obligation to the Lord and to Israel. And this land will be your possession before the Lord.
23“But if you fail to do this, you will be sinning against the Lord; and you may be sure that your sin will find you out.
24Build cities for your women and children, and pens for your flocks, but do what you have promised.”......
So on an so forth...the settlements EXPAND thanks partly to fools who carry OT!

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Islam's attack on Christianity

The new millennium saw the situation go from bad to worse. In 1009 the Fatimid Caliph of Egypt, abu-'Ali Mansur al-Hakim, ordered the destruction of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem. The edict of destruction was signed by his Christian secretary ibn-'Abdun. The Muslims destroyed the Tomb of Jesus, the Dome and the upper parts of the Church until their demolition was halted by the great mound of debris at their feet. For eleven years Christians were forbidden even to visit the rubble or to pray in the ruins.

Shocked by the destruction of Christendom's holiest Shrine, Pope Sergius IV appealed for help to go to Palestine to rebuild it. His appeal fell on deaf ears.

At the beginning of the fifth century, two hundred years before Muhammad appeared, there were seven-hundred Catholic bishops in Africa.[14] Two hundred of them attended the Council of Carthage in 535 AD. By the middle of the 900s there were forty left. By 1050, as a result of 'peaceful coexistence,' there were only five left. In 1076 there were two. We learn this from a letter that Pope Gregory VII,'Hildebrand,' wrote to Cyriacus, Archbishop of Carthage in June 1076. As three bishops are needed for the valid consecration of another bishop Gregory asked him to send a suitable priest to Rome who could be consecrated assistant bishop, so that he [Cyriacus] and Servandus, bishop of Buzea in Mauritania, and the new bishop could consecrate other bishops for the African Catholics.[15]

Gregory VII, on his deathbed in 1085, dreamt of forming a Christian League against Islam and said,'I would rather risk my life to deliver the Holy Places, than govern the Universe'.[16]

It seems to have been the Seljuk Turkish capture of Jerusalem in 1076 that finally swung the balance, exhausted the patience of the European Christians, and fulfilled Gregory's wish. Pilgrimage to the Holy Places had became more difficult; a poll-tax was imposed on visitors. Those who dared journey there were harassed, robbed and some even enslaved.

At the Council of Piacenza summoned by Pope Urban II and held in March 1095, Byzantine delegates emphasized the danger facing Christendom from Muslim expansion, and the hardship facing Eastern Christians until the infidel be driven back.[17] They repeated an appeal made by Emperor Alexius to Robert of Flanders asking him to return to the East with some knights to assist the Byzantines in their struggle with the Muslims.

Towards the end of that same year, Urban II, at another Council held at Claremont in France, took up the suggestion, and urged Europe's Christians to 'Take the road to the Holy Sepulchre ... let each one deny himself and take up the Cross'. The Assembly rose to its feet and shouted 'God wills it'.

Muhammad died on June 8, 632 AD. It had taken four hundred and sixty three years for Europe's Christians to combine their forces and rise up in defence of themselves and of their Faith.

The defeat of Islam will be Gods second victory over Muslims in the coming years.

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#212340 Aug 4, 2014
Alex WM wrote:
<quoted text>
It is quite obvious that you are a very sick person.
All you do is to fantacize with a set of meaningless Hadiths and ejaculate non stop!!
Here is something to drip on...
We talked about Moses from YOUR bible.
We talked about BJ the incompetent coward from YOUR bible.
Your god is a murderer!
Your sex starved god was such a coward that he had to rape an innocent girl to make himself a son to MURDER!!!
As a result "Christians" have been MURDERING JEWISH people in their MILLIONS as CHRIST KILLERS!!!
: Mo-ham-mad taught Muslims to murder Jews.

Sahih Bukhari Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176: Narrated by 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying,'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'" Sahih Bukhari Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177: Narrated by Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Note: Mo-ham-mad taught Muslims to murder non-Muslims.

Qur'an 2:191: And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

Note: Mo-ham-mad taught Muslims to murder people who left Islam.

Qur'an 4:089: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

Note: Mo-ham-mad taught Muslims to murder people they did not trust.

Qur'an 4:091: You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority.

Note: Mo-ham-mad taught Muslims to murder people they thought to be idolaters.

Qur'an 9:005: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Note: Mo-ham-mad taught Muslims to murder people if they thought it was a just cause.

Qur'an 17:033: And do not kill any one whom Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause, and whoever is slain unjustly, We have indeed given to his heir authority, so let him not exceed the just limits in slaying; surely he is aided.

Note: Murder is the major unspoken pillar of Islam. This explains why there are Muslims who are making bombs and detonating them as you read this. Civilized governments must be proactive and preemptive in their response to international Muslim terrorism. Appeasement of Islam will drive the world into World War III just as appeasement of Hitler resulted in World War II. Is your government pacifying the Muslim menace? How many more innocent victims of Muslim terrorism will there be?

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#212341 Aug 4, 2014
Alex WM wrote:
<quoted text>
When you can't answer ANYTHING you resort to your pathetic one liners.
You are an uneducated fool who hasn't left his home except to buy some bread and milk!!!.
That is VERY obvious.
We talked about Moses from YOUR bible.
We talked about BJ the incompetent coward from YOUR bible.
Your god is a murderer!
Your god was such a coward that he had to rape an innocent girl to make himself a son to MURDER!!!
As a result "Christians" have been MURDERING JEWISH people in their MILLIONS as CHRIST KILLERS!!!
Have you ever managed to leave your tin hut to see the world?
You are such a frog in the well.
What you think about me is irrelevant, my little uneducated woodworker...
Your brain is incapable of processing a few hard facts.
The sphere of influence of some crafty people is quite huge and insidious.
I didn't say that Christians hate islam more than they hate other religions!!
But in your case YOU do and that comes through in your uneducated half baked light weight error filled comments.
Now READ these carefully...
Anti Semitic Le Dic who is supporting the Ant Semitic MURDERERS?
Why....?
The AshkeNAZI converts who are very unlikely to be Semitic are MURDERING the SEMITIC Arabs-Palestinians.
Now you know what they are doing to Gaza!
Media war:
- MURDER the semitics and then point fingers elsewhere saying "you are anti Semitic"!!
- DESTROY life, land and livelihood of Semitic people using the most sophisticated army with weaponry supplied FREE of CHARGE by the Americans, saying "they are attacking us with stones and rockets!!(the stones and rockets are really from the stone age)!!
(the ratio of murder is 40 Semitic:1 Anti-semitic convert)!!
- Hiding statistcis: Just look at almost all seats of power in the USA and UK. These are controlled by the anti semitic converts but they claim that they constitute a very tiny minority of less than are only a few of them in the world!!!
- An extension of OT Moses the mass murderer (who stole 32000 virgin girls over the age of 3 for use by him and his "team" Numbers 31:35 and killed thousands....Oh, when he consults "god" he is given concessions and lands galore! I am sure he looks in the mirror, talks to himself and then says LORD spoke to me...LORD in most instances seem to be Old Mossy baby!!)
: Mass murderer Benjamin Netanyahu who claims to be related to Judah is obviously related to BJ who is also related to Judah!!!!
Mass murderer Ben Natanyahu follows the OT to the old "T"!!! KILL KILL KILL, DESTROY GENTILES and PROPERTY...TAKE OVER LAND and BUILD SETTLEMENTS, like the LORD promised!!
NUMBERS 32...
20Then Moses said to them,“If you will do this—if you will arm yourselves before the Lord for battle
21and if all of you who are armed cross over the Jordan before the Lord until he has driven his enemies out before him—
22then when the land is subdued before the Lord, you may return and be free from your obligation to the Lord and to Israel. And this land will be your possession before the Lord.
23“But if you fail to do this, you will be sinning against the Lord; and you may be sure that your sin will find you out.
24Build cities for your women and children, and pens for your flocks, but do what you have promised.”......
So on an so forth...the settlements EXPAND thanks partly to fools who carry OT!
Islam is the religion of Satan .
Alex WM

London, UK

#212342 Aug 4, 2014
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Islam is the religion of Satan .
and YOU worship a "one-eyed" NAKED pagan SATAN who is OOZING off a PHALLUS seducing you to CHEW off his RAW MEAT and SUCK off his FRESH bodily JUICES including living TADPOLE water and BLOOD!!

Since: Apr 11

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#212343 Aug 4, 2014
Alex WM wrote:
<quoted text>
and YOU worship a "one-eyed" NAKED pagan SATAN who is OOZING off a PHALLUS seducing you to CHEW off his RAW MEAT and SUCK off his FRESH bodily JUICES including living TADPOLE water and BLOOD!!
Your Allah god makes you crazy.

"Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God is one Lord"
Deuteronomy 6: 4

But, our one God is Spirit and Light, with 3 natures
Jesus is God also, a part of the same spirit and the same light of the Father.

The Father is acquiescent to the Son nature for our Salvation (our only mediator).

The Holy Spirit permeates all to bring us knowledge of God.

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#212344 Aug 4, 2014
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>I gave you a simple answer. Do your own homework and find whatever constitutes "conclusive proof," but I suppose that I should qualify that answer because you are playing the "Muslim First, Objective Analyst Second" game, where "conclusive proof" to you is nothing more than what Mohammad/Jibreel/Allah said that is recorded in the Qur'an, and perhaps the Hadith accounts like Bukhari's.
It were you who were asking "conclusive proofs" about who built Kaaba...

That is why I said that let us leave Kaaba for now, and check which of the "Old Structures" we have "conclusive proofs".

You said that you have "No conclusive proof" that Solomon Built the Temple of Jerusalem...

Then I asked you do have "conclusive proof" if Solomon Existed? You answered in negative.

Then I asked you, do you have "Conclusive Proof" if David existed? You are not replying it and asking me to go to this site and that site , what sort of answer it is ?

Either you tell me what you consider as "conclusive proof" or stop raising objection about Islam.

Why we answer all of your questions and doubts, you should also answer once in a while.

Let me ask again . do you have "conclusive Proof" that David existed?
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#212345 Aug 4, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
It were you who were asking "conclusive proofs" about who built Kaaba...
That is why I said that let us leave Kaaba for now, and check which of the "Old Structures" we have "conclusive proofs".
You said that you have "No conclusive proof" that Solomon Built the Temple of Jerusalem...
Then I asked you do have "conclusive proof" if Solomon Existed? You answered in negative.
Then I asked you, do you have "Conclusive Proof" if David existed? You are not replying it and asking me to go to this site and that site , what sort of answer it is ?
Either you tell me what you consider as "conclusive proof" or stop raising objection about Islam.
Why we answer all of your questions and doubts, you should also answer once in a while.
Let me ask again . do you have "conclusive Proof" that David existed?
Cutting to the chase, you don't comprehend what you read, but rather believe whatever suits your Qur'anically enslaved mentality, which is to say that "proof" to you is nothing more than what Mohammad dictated.

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#212346 Aug 5, 2014
and proof to you is what the NT and Tanach say.

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